Re: error duing make of 1.2.4

2000-07-25 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-07-24 19:00:55 -0400, Jason Helfman wrote:

 i stopped it after this.

You can safely ignore these.

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changing folders

2000-07-25 Thread Johannes Zellner

Hello,

I've a question about changing folders. Suppose I've in my
default mail directory `=' a subdirectory autosaves. To go
to the mutt-users folder there I type something like
c=auttab/mutab
Ok. so far so good. Suppose now I want to go to another folder
which is in the same `=autosaves' directory. If I type
ctab
I get the top `=' directory. What I'd like (and expect) is to
be already in the `=autosaves' directory.

Is this possible (and how) ?

-- 
   Johannes



Q: How do I get colours back?

2000-07-25 Thread Dave Ewart

Looks like I've screwed up somewhere ...  :-)

I was previously using version 1.0i and compiled and installed 1.2.4i.
All was well, except that on a couple of occasions (mainly on changing
folders) bits of the previous "screen" would get "left behind" on the
next "screen".  i.e. a subject from a message in a subfolder would stay
in the same place on the screen when I moved to another folder ...

I thought about this for a while, then I thought that perhaps it might
be an Ncurses problem - I had version 4.2, so I downloaded, compiled and
installed Ncurses 5.1.  After recompiling Mutt with the new Ncurses, I
have no colours!

Mutt is definitely compiled with colour support:

-
Mutt 1.2.4i (2000-07-07)
Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.2.16 [using ncurses 5.1]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc"
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.
-

I noticed in the Ncurses documentation that it said it was going to
overwrite the Terminfo settings and that any customizations should be
saved.  I don't recall ever doing anything with Terminfo before, so I
just let it go ahead.  Is that my mistake?  If so, what should I do now?

I am running Mutt in a Konsole under RH6.0 (KDE desktop).  Colours
appear OK running stuff other Mutt in the Konsole, e.g. colourized "ls",
SLRN newsreader (uses Slang, not Ncurses?) ...

Any help most welcome!

Dave.
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK



Re: Q: How do I get colours back?

2000-07-25 Thread Dave Ewart

On Tuesday, 25.07.2000 at 10:48 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:

 Looks like I've screwed up somewhere ...  :-)
 
 I was previously using version 1.0i and compiled and installed 1.2.4i.
 All was well, except that on a couple of occasions (mainly on changing
 folders) bits of the previous "screen" would get "left behind" on the
 next "screen".  i.e. a subject from a message in a subfolder would stay
 in the same place on the screen when I moved to another folder ...

Partially sorted - see below about colours.

Actually - I've narrowed this problem down a bit.  When PGP verifying,
the "Invoking PGP" message appears on the bottom line of the screen and
this "scrolls" the screen up by one line - the subject of the first
message of the folder gets stuck in the status bar at the top of the
screen.  Only way to get rid of it is to restart Mutt.  What's _that_
all about?

I copied the "terminfo" settings across from another box, colours are
back.  But my problem above is still here ...  Any ideas?

Dave.
-- 
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Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK



Re: changing folders

2000-07-25 Thread cgreen

On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Johannes Zellner wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've a question about changing folders. Suppose I've in my
 default mail directory `=' a subdirectory autosaves. To go
 to the mutt-users folder there I type something like
 c=auttab/mutab
 Ok. so far so good. Suppose now I want to go to another folder
 which is in the same `=autosaves' directory. If I type
 ctab
 I get the top `=' directory. What I'd like (and expect) is to
 be already in the `=autosaves' directory.
 
 Is this possible (and how) ?
 
No, I don't think it's possible at the moment in mutt.

I too find the present way of working rather strange, it's like using
'cd' in a shell and finding that you always have to start from your
home directory, not from where the last cd left you.

-- 
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Re: gnupg and pgp incompatibility

2000-07-25 Thread Dennis Robertson

On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 02:27:49PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
 
 I use:
 
 
 set pgp_create_traditional=ask-no
 
 
 in my .muttrc. When i have a message to a correspondent who uses Eudora
 3.x and an old pgp (3.6, I think), I hit "y", otherwise return.  I suppose
 I should automate that with a send-hook. Real Soon Now.
 
 Note: that combination can handle signed or encrypted, but not both signed
 and encrypted.


Charles,
Thank you, David T-G and David C for your help.  I'll talk to my correspondent about 
your
solution and having to possibly chase the text.  Then we'll maybe venture into macros. 
 Or,
hopefully, I can persuade him to load linux.  I wish.
Regards.

-- 
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Phone: 61 7 54742343  Mob: 0419 535539



Re: Screen doesn't refresh when using gpg

2000-07-25 Thread David T-G

Caster --

...and then Caster said...
% I asked this before but nobody answered.
% When I use gpg functions the screen doesn't refresh after calling it.
% If I press the refresh screen sequence (^L by default) everything is
% alright -- screen backs to normal. Is this a known bug? Does it occure
% in your mailers?

I get the same thing with mutt-1.2.4i and gnupg 1.0.1, but have no idea
how to fix it so I didn't pipe up.  My mutt uses ncurses 4.2.

It seems to me that gpg is generating output that mutt does not expect,
which then screws up the display.


% 
% -- 
% Bi-la kaifa
% mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


:-D
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Re: gnupg and pgp incompatibility

2000-07-25 Thread David T-G

Charles, et al --

...and then Charles Curley said...
% On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 03:11:51PM -0400, David T-G muttered:
%  ...and then David Champion said...
%  % 
%  % (Actually there are ways to make Mutt send messages that Eudora can
%  % handle, but these are kludgy and don't involve proper MIME.  I think
%  % they involve macros.  Again, check the web or archives.)
...
%  I searched both mutt archives and a teeny bit of the web in general, but
%  didn't find anything.  Is "the old way" what you meant, or do you hint at
%  something else?
% 
% I use:
% 
% set pgp_create_traditional=ask-no

Hokay; got that for sending to him, and he has to chase down the text.


% 
% 
% in my .muttrc. When i have a message to a correspondent who uses Eudora
% 3.x and an old pgp (3.6, I think), I hit "y", otherwise return.  I suppose
% I should automate that with a send-hook. Real Soon Now.

  send-hook . set pgp_autosign nopgp_autoencrypt pgp_create_traditional=no
  send-hook davidtg set pgp_autoencrypt
  send-hook eudora set nopgp_autosign pgp_create_traditional=yes

Happy to help ;-)


% 
% Note: that combination can handle signed or encrypted, but not both signed
% and encrypted.

Now, this is *very* interesting, since I sign everything including what
I encrypt to him.  I've sent him new-way and old-way encrypted-only test
messages; let's see if they work for him *without* chasing...  Is that
the idea?


% 
% -- 
% 
%   -- C^2
% 
% No windows were crashed in the making of this email.
% 
% Looking for fine software and/or web pages?
% http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley


:-D
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Re: gnupg and pgp incompatibility

2000-07-25 Thread David T-G

David, et al --

...and then David Champion said...
% On 2000.07.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
%   "David T-G" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  David, et al --
% 
%  % So, short answer: Eudora can send to Mutt, but Mutt can't send to
%  % Eudora, and it's Eudora's fault.
% 
%  FWIW, I have been able to send with mutt-0.95.4i and pgp5; my recipient
%  may whine a bit, but he's been reading the messages well for quite a
%  while now (since his upgrade a few months ago).
% 
% Yes... to be more precise: Eudora can read signed messages, but (in my
% experience) it can neither verify signed PGP/MIME messages, nor decrypt
% encrypted PGP/MIME messages.

Perhaps I should clarify: I've sent PGP/MIME signed+encrypted messages
with mutt-0.95.4i and pgp5 (at least, I think I have been; didn't 0.95.4i
do PGP/MIME unless you hacked up your own gawdawful macro as you quoted
back to me?) and my pal reads them with no trouble (or, perhaps, following
his typical procedure that is now comfortable for him, but I doubt it
because he quotes my messages in replies and so I think it's Eudora doing
the decoding and including).

My big surprise was that there was apparently a change; mutt-0.95.4i+pgp5
worked fine, and mutt-1.2.4i+gpg-1.0.1 didn't, and I was signing and
encrypting both times.  I realize, of course, that I have changed two
variables in this equation :-)


% 
%  In addition, I never have a problem reading his mail, but that could be
%  because I'm using the procmail recipe from PGP-Notes and don't have to
%  worry about it any more :-)
% 
% Yeah.  I just took that out of my own config so I can test this a
% little more -- I've just been studying Eudora the last couple of days.

Woo hoo -- and, believe me, I wish you luck and great success!


% 
% ME gave some sample macros for circumventing this issue when he posted
% his edit-type patch, I think; these should work in absence of
% procmail.

How nice.  Of course, I plan to stick with procmail :-)


% 
%  I tried sending old-style messages with pgp_create_traditional; he tells
%  me that Eudora detaches the message and he has to go and find it and
%  open it (he chooses to use Word, of all things!), and the text is there.
% 
% I'm not familiar with pgp_create_traditional -- I haven't been paying
% attention to this area of development, since it all works OK for me so
% far. :)

Just in case you're *really* not familiar, it's a variable that lets you
call your pgp_clearsign_command (a variable holding that command
structure) instead of pgp_sign_command (the command to do PGP/MIME
signing).  I know you can RTFM, so I'll only point you to 6.3.115 and
6.3.120/6.3.121 :-)

Interestingly enough, as I review my gpg.rc to get the exact names
of these variables I see that there is a clearsign command but not,
apparently, an equivalent clearencrypt or inlineencrypt command.
I just checked the encrypted-only old-style test message I sent a few
minutes ago, and it *did* look right, but maybe I don't know for what
I'm looking...


% 
%  I searched both mutt archives and a teeny bit of the web in general, but
%  didn't find anything.  Is "the old way" what you meant, or do you hint at
%  something else?
% 
% Yes: I was referring to macros for filtering components through
% PGP/GPG.  You posted one of them.  (Ah, no substitute for personal

Aha!  Yes, I still have those in my muttrc :-)  I was specifically
searching against "Eudora", so it makes sense that my post wouldn't have
come up.


% archives.  Web archives can all * * *!)

Yeah.  Pretty much.  And I even meant to do something about that and
haven't gone forward with it.  Oh, well.


% 
% Here are examples with citations, altered a bit to be more readable.  A
% lot of you have these already, but maybe this makes a useful summary
% for the FAQ or something.  I think these will work, but I haven't

Very cool!  Thanks!


% tested them all since rewriting them.  Check primary sources if in
% doubt.

Always a good idea.


% 
% I'm not sure which of these would work best with Eudora, and my
% "Eudora-empowered" PC is not at hand.

Dare I hope that you'll be poking at this some more one day soon?


% 
% The usual disclaimers: I don't mean to suggest that there aren't better
% sources for this stuff; this is just what I found.  No resposibility if
% this stuff crashes your mailer, erases your mail, drowns your fish,
% etc.  Everything I say is a lie.

*grin*


Thanks again!

:-D
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Re: M$ dog

2000-07-25 Thread Marius Gedminas

On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 10:18:25PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 % Since I must, I use win2k at work. I've found PC-Pine to be a marginally
 
 I hear TheBAT! is pretty good, BTW.

(Yes, but I would trade it for Mutt any minute...)

 % acceptable mailer, but I'd love to use mutt. I've found nothing on the
 % web about this. My guess is that this is "by design" behavoir.
 
 Well, yes and no; the design is definitely a factor, but it wasn't done
 just because people hate windoze (I say "just because" :-)
 
 It boils down to mutt's UNIX-like behavior of expecting other pieces to
 be there; all mutt does is read mail, and it sucks less at that than
 anything else.  The biggest problem people often quote is the lack of
 an MTA, since mutt does not talk directly to the MDA on the recipient
 machine via SMTP port 25, as I believe PINE does.  It doesn't help that
 Win doesn't handle subshells gracefully and so things like PGP can be
 tricky as well, as I understand it.

There's another problem: \r\n end-of-lines.  Mutt doesn't use
O_TEXT/O_BINARY, and gets confused when CygWin translates \r\n to \n
thus unexpectedly reducing message size.  At least I think that's why
Mutt segfaults in the pager on Win32.  I have posted stack traces on
mutt-dev, but the developers have enough problems on Unix, and didn't
have time to investigate Win32 issues.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Todd Goodman wrote:
 * John Saylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000717 21:50]:
  Has anyone done anything about porting mutt to the windows world?
 
 Someone has reportedly ported mutt and sendmail to Cygwin
 (see http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin).  Check out
 http://www.fiction.net/blong/programs/mutt/ for the mutt patch.

IIRC it requires CygWin 1.0 DLL which is commercial.  I've also heard
that it is open source, so maybe someone could make it available for
downloads?

I haven't tried it, but I've compiled Mutt with CygWin 0.something, and
it worked (modulo the pager segfaults mentioned above).

Marius Gedminas
-- 
Of course I use Microsoft. Setting up a stable unix network is no challenge ;p



Re: codepages aliases

2000-07-25 Thread Marius Gedminas

On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 02:54:54PM +0300, Leonid Mamtchenkov wrote:
 Hey everyone,
 
   Guess I have missed it in the manual, but how do I alias codepages in
 1.2 and above?

By using the unintuitively named `charset-hook' command.

HTH.

Marius Gedminas
-- 
Unix is an operating system, OS/2 is half an operating system, Windows
is a shell, and DOS is a boot partition virus.
-- Peter H. Coffin



Re: Screen doesn't refresh when using gpg

2000-07-25 Thread Caster

Hello Mutt Users!
On pon 24 lip 2000 15:17:24 GMT Charles Curley wrote:

 Possibly you have a termcap problem

Well, I think I don't. All other things work great.

 or else mutt is sending the wrong
 sequence of control characters to your terminal program.

It looks like mutt doesn't call the refresh screen function after
calling gpg.

 I use rxvt on Linux, and have no problems.

I'm using Linux too. Normally on the text console ($TERM=linux), but
I've also tried rxvt, Eterm and xterm. Unfortunately there is no
difference.
Maybe I'll look at the source and try to find what's wrong.

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Re: Screen doesn't refresh when using gpg

2000-07-25 Thread David T-G

Nollaig, et al --

...and then Nollaig MacKenzie said...
% 
% On 2000.07.25 07:15:55, you,
%  the extraordinary David T-G, opined:

Well, hully gee :-)


% 
%  ...and then Caster said...
%  % When I use gpg functions the screen doesn't refresh after calling it.
%  % If I press the refresh screen sequence (^L by default) everything is
%  
%  I get the same thing with mutt-1.2.4i and gnupg 1.0.1, but have no idea
%  how to fix it so I didn't pipe up.  My mutt uses ncurses 4.2.
% 
% For what it's worth, the problem doesn't show up
% on my system, with
% 
%   gpg 1.0.2  or  gpg 1.0.0
%   mutt 1.2.4i  compiled with SLANG

I just rebuilt mutt with slang, apparently 10202 (see attached), and I
think that the same refresh problem is *not* there.  My colors, however,
are atrocious and it's hard to tell what's good and what's bad.

Could someone give me the 3-second SLANG color tour, please?  I don't use
colors except for a single mono highlighting hook, and my terminal is
black (0,0,0) on a light grey (223,223,223).


% 
% Cheers, N.
% -- 
% Nollaig MacKenzie :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% http://www.amhuinnsuidhe.cx




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Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.2.16 [using slang 10202]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  +USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS  +COMPRESSED
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc"
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.

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Feature patch: expand_hook  0.95.4 by Stefan `Sec` Zehl
Feature patch: reverse-reply0.95.4 by Stefan `Sec` Zehl
Feature patch: patch-1.1.1.hb.save_alias.1 (DTG)
Feature patch: patch-1.2.bj.ed_mtime.1 (DTG)
Feature patch: patch-1.2.bj.hash_destroy.1 (DTG)
Feature patch: patch-1.2.bj.my_hdr_subject.1 (DTG)
Feature patch: patch-1.2.bj.noquote_hdr_term.1 (DTG)
Feature patch: patch-1.2.bj.status-time.1 (DTG)
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Feature patch: patch-1.2.bbell.pattern.1 (DTG)
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Re: How can I display most X- headers but not all

2000-07-25 Thread Russell Hoover

On Mon 07/24/00 at 03:56 PM -0400, yours truly, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What if you want to see *all* X- headers (including ones you don't know)
 except a specific few that you *are* able to specify?  As I noted above,
 I tried using a second "ignore" line after the "unignore" line, and that
 didn't work.

According to the manual (for anyone who's interested), I'm apparently SOL if
I want to keep "X-" in the unignore line (which I do):

To remove a previously added token from the [ignore] list, use the
``unignore'' command.  Note that if you do ``ignore x-'' it is not
possible to ``unignore x-mailer,'' for example.

Though I'm doing the opposite ("unignore X-"), it works the same way (I
can't "ignore X-mailer" after the unignore).

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PGP???

2000-07-25 Thread Lukasz Stelmach

Hi All.

Tell me if you know what part of message is passed to pgp (gpg) for
signing. When i sign a letter it consists of two attachments: the text
and the signature. When i save the text and the sugnature in separate
files and i try to verify the first with the second one the verification
fails. 

The question is "What is signes?" or "how to check what is signed?"

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weird sent-hook

2000-07-25 Thread Johannes Zellner

Hello,

I like people not replying to me when I post to a list.
Therefore I've set up some send-hooks like this:

send-hook '~C .*mutt-users@mutt\.org.*' 'my_hdr Reply-To: mutt users 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
subscribe mutt
alias mutt mutt users [EMAIL PROTECTED]

for some strange reason I get sometimes one of these `Reply-To:'
headers inserted in a mail which has /no/ To: or Cc: to the list
which is inserted.

Did I make something wrong ?

-- 
   Johannes




Re: weird sent-hook

2000-07-25 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 25 Jul 2000:
 send-hook '~C .*mutt-users@mutt\.org.*' 'my_hdr Reply-To: mutt users 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

 for some strange reason I get sometimes one of these `Reply-To:'
 headers inserted in a mail which has /no/ To: or Cc: to the list
 which is inserted.

You need to have a default-hook that does an "unmy_hdr Reply-To".
The my_hdr command is active from that point onwards, not just for
the message where the send-hook executed, but also for every other
message you type.  You can avoid this by having something like this:

  send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Reply-To"

in your .muttrc before the other send-hooks.  The order is important
since they are processed in order.


Hope this helps,
Mikko
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Re: How can I display most X- headers but not all

2000-07-25 Thread Anton Graham

Submitted 25-Jul-00 by Russell Hoover:
 Though I'm doing the opposite ("unignore X-"), it works the same way (I
 can't "ignore X-mailer" after the unignore).

What about replaceing the (rather draconian) "ignore *" with a list of
specific headers to be supressed?  Yes, it is a bit more work, but it
will ultimately accomplish what you want.

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Re: PGP???

2000-07-25 Thread Lars Hecking

Lukasz Stelmach writes:
 Hi All.
 
 Tell me if you know what part of message is passed to pgp (gpg) for
 signing. When i sign a letter it consists of two attachments: the text
 and the signature. When i save the text and the sugnature in separate
 files and i try to verify the first with the second one the verification
 fails. 
 
 The question is "What is signes?" or "how to check what is signed?"

 The complete body of the message is signed, including MIME headers.




Re: weird sent-hook

2000-07-25 Thread Ronny Haryanto

On 25-Jul-2000, Johannes Zellner wrote:
 send-hook '~C .*mutt-users@mutt\.org.*' 'my_hdr Reply-To: mutt users 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 subscribe mutt
 alias mutt mutt users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 for some strange reason I get sometimes one of these `Reply-To:'
 headers inserted in a mail which has /no/ To: or Cc: to the list
 which is inserted.

You probably need a default send-hook (not $default_hook) specified
before that send-hook, e.g.:

send-hook . 'unmy_hdr reply-to'

You might also be interested to read the section "Handling Mailing
Lists" in the manual.

On a slightly different but related subject, why can't "Reply-To" be
used instead of "Mail-Followup-To"? Most mailers have already
supported "Reply-To", so why not use that?

Ronny




Re: weird sent-hook

2000-07-25 Thread Lars Hecking


 I like people not replying to me when I post to a list.
 Therefore I've set up some send-hooks like this:
 
 send-hook '~C .*mutt-users@mutt\.org.*' 'my_hdr Reply-To: mutt users 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 subscribe mutt
 alias mutt mutt users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 for some strange reason I get sometimes one of these `Reply-To:'
 headers inserted in a mail which has /no/ To: or Cc: to the list
 which is inserted.

 "Sometimes" means: after sending mail to mutt-users for the first time
 after starting mutt.

 You need to reset the send-hook explicitly before setting it:

 send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Reply-To:'
 send-hook '~C .*mutt-users@mutt\.org' 'my_hdr Reply-To: mutt users 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

 [The .* at the end of the expression is pretty useless, so I've removed it.]

 Personally, I would not use such a send-hook. mutt has different reply
 functions for sender, group, and list. Some people argue that Reply-To:
 should never be set to the list
  http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
 but another school of thought exists which proclaims the exact opposite :)

 Did I make something wrong ?




colors for the indicator (more)

2000-07-25 Thread Johannes Zellner

Hi,

after having solved my send-hook problem (thanks to all)
I've still two more questions:

1) color indicator   red  yellow  pattern
   does not seem to work as expected. If I use for example
   [0-9]+ as pattern, all lines which contain a digit somehwere
   are completely highlighted -- I'd expect only the digits to
   be highlighted as it is the case when specifying patterns
   for the body.

2) can the list names as supplied for `list' and `subscribe'
   be aliases?  And if so: is the order there important ?
   -- e.g.  can I use (in this order)
   subscribe mutt
   alias mutt mutt users [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
   Johannes



Re: colors for the indicator (more)

2000-07-25 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Johannes Zellner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 25 Jul 2000:
 2) can the list names as supplied for `list' and `subscribe'
be aliases?  And if so: is the order there important ?
-- e.g.  can I use (in this order)
subscribe mutt
alias mutt mutt users [EMAIL PROTECTED]

No, you can't use that.  The subscribe command takes a substring (well,
regular expression) to match for in recipient addresses.  It won't pay
any attention to whatever aliases you have defined.


Mikko
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Automatic mail archiving

2000-07-25 Thread Nils Vogels

Hi list!

I have been using mutt for some months now and I'm getting to a completely new
problem :)

I have too much mail :-)

Therefore I would like to build like an autoarchiver which moves the mail
monthly into a seperate, gzipped folder, so this months mail for the mutt list
would end up in =mutt-july-2000.gz

How would I go by this using mutt ?

Grtz,

Nils.



Re: Automatic mail archiving

2000-07-25 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Nils Vogels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 26 Jul 2000:
 Therefore I would like to build like an autoarchiver which moves the mail
 monthly into a seperate, gzipped folder, so this months mail for the mutt list
 would end up in =mutt-july-2000.gz
 
 How would I go by this using mutt ?

I don't know, but I know I wouldn't do it with Mutt, rather than use
something like procmail/maildrop or whatever...  And possibly combined
with commands run out of cron.  Depends what exactly you want to do
(all of the emails, or just selected emails, or what?).


Mikko
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Re: colors for the indicator (more)

2000-07-25 Thread Michael Tatge

Johannes Zellner muttered:
 1) color indicator   red  yellow  pattern
   ^
I guess you mean index here. The object indicator does not need any
pattern. And mutt doen't accept one.

does not seem to work as expected. If I use for example
[0-9]+ as pattern, all lines which contain a digit somehwere
are completely highlighted -- I'd expect only the digits to
be highlighted as it is the case when specifying patterns
for the body.

Right, the index highlighting is 'line based'. That's the way I
would expext it to work :)
How would you color a pattern like ~D or ~z if it wasn't so?

HTH,

Michael
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Re: weird sent-hook

2000-07-25 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 13:45 -0500 25 Jul 2000, Ronny Haryanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On a slightly different but related subject, why can't "Reply-To" be
 used instead of "Mail-Followup-To"? Most mailers have already
 supported "Reply-To", so why not use that?

Because that wouldn't allow the person responding to (easily) choose
between sending the reply to the entire list or to just the author of
the original message.

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Re: Automatic mail archiving

2000-07-25 Thread DAve

If your on FreeBSD, syslog.conf can do that for you. I have mine set up to 
zip, rename, mv all my logs. It can be set to archive, delete, mail, files 
based on size or age. If your on Linux I'd look at a cron job.

DAve

And Mikko Hänninen said

 Nils Vogels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 26 Jul 2000:
  Therefore I would like to build like an autoarchiver which moves the mail
  monthly into a seperate, gzipped folder, so this months mail for the mutt list
  would end up in =mutt-july-2000.gz
  
  How would I go by this using mutt ?
 
 I don't know, but I know I wouldn't do it with Mutt, rather than use
 something like procmail/maildrop or whatever...  And possibly combined
 with commands run out of cron.  Depends what exactly you want to do
 (all of the emails, or just selected emails, or what?).
 
 
 Mikko
-- 
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 the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting -- died"   
 



Re: How can I display most X- headers but not all

2000-07-25 Thread Stan Ryckman

At 11:11 AM 7/25/00 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Russell Hoover proclaimed on mutt-users that:

 ignore *  # This means "ignore all header lines by default."
 unignore From: Date Subject To Cc Organization Organisation User-Agent \
 X-Mailer X-
 ignore X-Priority X-MSMail-Priority
 
Hmmm... once you've gone and unignored it, you can hardly ignore it
again ;)

There might be reasons for wanting to...
   ignore A
   unignore AB
   ignore ABC
   unignore ABCD
   ignore ABCDE
   ...
is pretty hard to do another way  :-)

Or, it might be useful to make some sourced files work out correctly.

Stan



Re: Automatic mail archiving

2000-07-25 Thread Jason Helfman

You can do this quiet easilt. There is a gzip compression patch for
mailboxes that mutt reads just as any other mailbox. I can't recall teh
site but it is off the mutt links page.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 03:34:52AM +0300, Mikko Hänninen muttered:
| Nils Vogels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 26 Jul 2000:
|  Therefore I would like to build like an autoarchiver which moves the mail
|  monthly into a seperate, gzipped folder, so this months mail for the mutt list
|  would end up in =mutt-july-2000.gz
|  
|  How would I go by this using mutt ?
| 
| I don't know, but I know I wouldn't do it with Mutt, rather than use
| something like procmail/maildrop or whatever...  And possibly combined
| with commands run out of cron.  Depends what exactly you want to do
| (all of the emails, or just selected emails, or what?).
| 
| 
| Mikko
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| 

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