Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Gary Johnson

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:29:09PM -0700, Shane Wegner wrote:

 I am wondering if there is any more information on viewing URLs in mutt then
 is contained in the manual.  The problem I have quite often is that spawning
 urlview is not neirly as flexable as I'd like it to be.

[...]

 If I hit ctrl+b (spawn urlview) on a post like this, it gives me a nice yet
 utterly meaningless set of URLs.  Is there any feature which allows
 pine-like url viewing?  Moving around in the message itself and spawning a
 browser.  If not, is there a better way to get an URL with some context.

I use the w3m browser instead of urlview for this.  It works great.
Simply pipe your message from slashdot to w3m, which displays the full
text of the message, then type a colon (:).  This will cause w3m to
search the text for strings that look like URLs and treat them as
anchors.  Move the cursor to the anchor/link of interest and hit Enter,
which will cause w3m to open that URL.  If you don't like using w3m as a
browser, you can configure it to use a different browser to open URLs.

I regularly receive a list of articles from The Register as you do from
slashdot, so I use display-hooks to automatically set the pager to w3m
for these messages:

display-hook ~A 'set pager="less -rf"'
display-hook '~s "the register update"' 'set pager="w3m"'

I think display-hooks are only available as a patch to 1.2.  The patch
was posted to this list (or the mutt-dev list) earlier this year.

How did you get slashdot to send you a list of articles?  I've searched
the site for such a feature but couldn't find it.

Regards,
Gary

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Jens Askengren

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:29:09PM -0700, Shane Wegner wrote:

 [...] Is there any feature which allows
 pine-like url viewing?  Moving around in the message itself and spawning a
 browser.  If not, is there a better way to get an URL with some context.

I you are using mutt in an xterm, you could set up a keybinding like this:

bind pager \cb  "!$BROWSER `xcut -p` "

That would spawn a browser on the selected url. (xcut is a little utility
for manipulating the clipboard. You'll find it on freshmeat: 
http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=xcut)

-Jens



Re: Dynamic REPLY-TO using address to which mail was sent

2000-09-11 Thread Yage

Great!
Probably i didnt use folder-hook correctly...
Now it works perfectly.
Tnx.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 01:05:16PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 Yage --
 
 Before I forget, the correct address for mutt-users is as above.  The
 gbnet address sometimes leaks through since the mailing list is hosted
 there, but it's not supposed to be seen.
 
 
 ...and then Yage said...
 %  I have this need:
 %  I want Mutt to change the REPLY-TO field using the address to which the 
 %  mail im replying to was sent.
 % 
 %  I mean...
 %  If you send me a mail to my address@one then when i reply to you the REPLY-
 %  TO field will be address@one, viceversa if you send it from address@two it 
 %  will be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Have you played with $alternates (see section 6.3.6 of the manual) and
 $reverse_name (6.3.165)?  That is the sort of thing these are meant to
 do, and you don't have to mess with a R-T: or M-F-T: header at all..
 
 
 % 
 %  Ive tried with folder-hook or send-hook functions, but, no way.
 %  The problem can be seen also in this way, i need to change the reply to 
 %  field when i switch from one mailbox to another (cause different addresses 
 %  are stored in different mbx).
 
 If your addresses are folder-based, you should be able to use something
 like
 
   folder-hook . my_hdr From: My Default default@domain
   folder-hook yage my_hdr From: Yage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   folder-hook secret my_hdr From: Secret Account secret@elsewhere
 
 or so.
 
 
 % 
 %  Someone can help me ?
 
 HTH  HAND
 
 
 % 
 %  Tnx.
 %  Yage.
 
 
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mbox-hooks doesn't work the expected way

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves


Hi. I'm a new mutt user, and some questions have arised when I began
using it. The most relevant now regards mbox-hooks

My mbox e /var/spool/mail/username. supose I get a mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the following rule:

mbox-hook '~f bla@bla\.com' =blafolder

When I exit the program, it prompts me for saving read msgs to mbox
folder (somehing undesirable, but ok...). Answering Y, I expected the mail
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be moved to blafolder, but it is instead moved to =mbox
folder. Is this correct? How do I tell mutt to automatically move to the
correct folder?

thanks
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how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Michael Seiwert

Hi mutt's,

how is it possible to mark a thread or a bunch of messages an copy
them at once to another mailfolder ?

Thank you for your help


Micha



Re: how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

Am 11.09.2000 um 13:01:25 +0200 schrieb Michael Seiwert folgendes:
 Hi mutt's,
 
 how is it possible to mark a thread or a bunch of messages an copy
 them at once to another mailfolder ?

Use "t" to tag them, then press ";" and then "s"

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Re: how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves


Select the ones you want with 't' and prepend the save comand 's'
with ';'



On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:01:25PM +0200, Michael Seiwert wrote:
 Hi mutt's,
 
 how is it possible to mark a thread or a bunch of messages an copy
 them at once to another mailfolder ?
 
 Thank you for your help
 
 
 Micha

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displaying to_chars flags

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves


Hi. I wanted mutt to display the to_chars flags, but I cannot figure
out how...

My hdr_format is:

set hdr_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} %-15.15F (%4c) %s"

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Shane --

...and then Shane Wegner said...
% Hi,
% 
% Take a site like slashdot for example.  They send me an email every night

Very cool :-)


% with a list of today's articles.  The format is as follows.
% DeCSS Source Mass-Posted to Usenet
%  from the cat-out-of-the-barrel dept.
%  posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday September 10, @10:23PM (movies)
%  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/10/2225214
% Western Union Cracked, Credit Cards Stolen
%  from the time-to-start-canceling dept.
%  posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday September 10, @06:07PM (internet)
%  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/10/189251
% Are We Ready For Broadband Internet Access?
%  from the for-that-matter-is-the-internet-ready-for-us? dept.
%  posted by Cliff on Sunday September 10, @05:11PM (tech)
%  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/09/1818217
% etc.

Sure; it looks readable enough...


% 
% If I hit ctrl+b (spawn urlview) on a post like this, it gives me a nice yet
% utterly meaningless set of URLs.  Is there any feature which allows

I don't get it...  I ran urlview against this message and I got a nice

  UrlView 0.9: (5 matches) Press Q or Ctrl-C to Quit!

  -1 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D00/09/10/2225214
2 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D00/09/10/189251
3 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D00/09/09/1818217
4 http://www.cm.nu/~shane/
5 http://www.gnupg.org

It looks exactly like what's posted in the message...


% pine-like url viewing?  Moving around in the message itself and spawning a
% browser.  If not, is there a better way to get an URL with some context.

Aha -- you want more than just the URL, then, because of "deficiencies" in
the /. mail message, right?  In that case, you'll want to just pump your
message through a browser that can pick up the plaintext URLs (though,
since you're in a tough boat anyway, you might see if /. offers an HTML
mail version and get it instead).  Try w3m and links, two text-mode
browsers that seem to be fairly capable.


% 
% Cheers,
% Shane

HTH  HAND


% 
% -- 
% Shane Wegner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/




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Re: mbox-hooks doesn't work the expected way

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Pedro --

...and then Pedro Alves said...
% 
%   Hi. I'm a new mutt user, and some questions have arised when I began
% using it. The most relevant now regards mbox-hooks

Hello, and welcome!


% 
%   My mbox e /var/spool/mail/username. supose I get a mail from
% [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the following rule:
% 
%   mbox-hook '~f bla@bla\.com' =blafolder

mbox-hook is used to define a save mailbox for a given *mailbox*, not for a
given user.  Thus, if you have folders like

  =F.linux
  =F.mutt
  =F.slashdot

and maybe even

  =F.bla

for your incoming mail 'F'olders, then you could define where read
messages are automatically 'A'rchived (like =A.linux, =A.mutt, ...) for
each folder, and that would even work for your friend bla *if* he had his
own folder.

What you probably want is a save-hook, which specifies where to save a
*message* that matches a pattern.


% 
%   When I exit the program, it prompts me for saving read msgs to mbox
% folder (somehing undesirable, but ok...). Answering Y, I expected the mail

Let's see, here...  You can set move to "yes" instead of "ask-yes" and it
will just move items for you without asking first; see section 6.3.93 of
the manual for details.


% from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be moved to blafolder, but it is instead moved to =mbox
% folder. Is this correct? How do I tell mutt to automatically move to the
% correct folder?

Automatic moving is, in general, pretty tricky.  Most people would
suggest that you play with procmail for that on the incoming side and
then you could archive with mbox-hook as you wished.  Even with a
save-hook or three you won't be able to automatically save your read
messages out to their respective archives at folder exit; you'll have to
save each one individually (or tag and tag-save, but you can't tag mail
from bla@ and foo@ all at once and have it get saved separately).


% 
%   thanks

HTH  HAND


% -- 
% Pedro Miguel Gameiro Alves
% 
% THINK - Tecnologias de Informação
% Tel: +351 21 3590285
% Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


:-D
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Re: how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Michael Seiwert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 11 Sep 2000:
 how is it possible to mark a thread or a bunch of messages an copy
 them at once to another mailfolder ?

In addition to the other replies, I'd just like to point out that
the command for tagging the current thread is esc t (with the default
keybindings, anyway).


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Re: displaying to_chars flags

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Pedro --

...and then Pedro Alves said...
% 
%   Hi. I wanted mutt to display the to_chars flags, but I cannot figure
% out how...

You mean the +,T,C,F chars that note how the message is addressed in
relation to your known addresses?


% 
%   My hdr_format is:
% 
%   set hdr_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} %-15.15F (%4c) %s"

Well, the manual szys that %Z is the message status flags, while %T is
the to_chars chars, but my "%4C %Z ..." shows me the to_chars, so it
would seem that they are included in the status flags.  That, in turn,
would make it seem like you should see them as well.

I've added you to the cc: field, so this message should generate a 'C'
char for you.  Does it?

You might also check your hdr_format from within mutt to see what it
*really* is.  Type

  :set ?hdr_format

and hit return and see what it says; you might be altering it with a hook
somewhere.

Oh, good grief; I just realized that you're using hdr_format instead of
index_format, which means you're using an older version of mutt...  Yep;
1.0pre3us is pretty old, all right; you might consider upgrading to
1.2.5, the latest stable version, even if you don't wish to go to 1.3.x
and play with the development version.  I don't have a 1.0 manual handy,
but I'm fairly sure the expando sequences stayed the same along the way.


HTH  HAND


% 
% -- 
% Pedro Miguel Gameiro Alves
% 
% THINK - Tecnologias de Informação
% Tel: +351 21 3590285
% Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


:-D
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Re: mbox-hooks doesn't work the expected way

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:13:33AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 
 Automatic moving is, in general, pretty tricky.  Most people would
 suggest that you play with procmail for that on the incoming side and

just did this, works very well. Tkx!

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Re: displaying to_chars flags

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Pedro --

...and then Pedro Alves said...
% 
%   The question is how do I tell mutt who I am...

Aha! :-)  Check out $alternates at 6.3.6


% 
% 
% -- 
% Pedro Miguel Gameiro Alves

HTH  HAND


% 
% THINK - Tecnologias de Informação
% Tel: +351 21 3590285
% Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

P.S. -- You should also teach your mutt about $use_domain or write a
complete From: header; note the cc to pedro above...


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Re: displaying to_chars flags

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:59:44AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 Pedro --
 
 ...and then Pedro Alves said...
 % 
 % The question is how do I tell mutt who I am...
 
 Aha! :-)  Check out $alternates at 6.3.6
 
 

I've defined alternates, my_header, and I still cannot see the
to_chars.

Currently all the (I think) relevant options I have are this:

set alternates = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]","[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
set index_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} %-15.15F (%4c) %s" # not using hdr_format
anymore
set to_chars=" +TCF"
my_hdr From: Pedro Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED]


This is it. The last line was appended after my last post, so
hopeffully the CC bug will not happen again (tell me if it does, please)


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Re: displaying to_chars flags

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Pedro --

...and then Pedro Alves said...
% On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:59:44AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
%  Pedro --
%  ...and then Pedro Alves said...
%  % 
%  %   The question is how do I tell mutt who I am...
%  
%  Aha! :-)  Check out $alternates at 6.3.6
% 
%   I've defined alternates, my_header, and I still cannot see the
% to_chars.

Well, that sounds good, though you shouldn't really have to define
to_chars.


% 
%   Currently all the (I think) relevant options I have are this:
% 
% set alternates = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]","[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

This should, instead, be a regexp like

  set alternates="pmalves@(ip|think.eunet).pt"

(though you could specify every|full|address|with|ORchars if you wanted
to perhaps make it easier to read).


% set index_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} %-15.15F (%4c) %s" # not using hdr_format
%   anymore

Looks fine...


% set to_chars=" +TCF"

These ought to be configured by default, so you might try commenting this
out to keep things simpler.


% my_hdr From: Pedro Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good :-)


% 
% 
%   This is it. The last line was appended after my last post, so
% hopeffully the CC bug will not happen again (tell me if it does, please)

It looks like you also need to re-source your .muttrc, given the address
that I saw and which is CCd on this note (better than pedro but not
what you have in your my_hdr).


% 
% -- 
% Pedro Miguel Gameiro Alves

HTH  HAND


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Re: displaying to_chars flags

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves



Working! :)

Thanks!


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Re: how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Myrddin

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:16:41PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 Michael Seiwert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 11 Sep 2000:
  how is it possible to mark a thread or a bunch of messages an copy
  them at once to another mailfolder ?
 
 In addition to the other replies, I'd just like to point out that
 the command for tagging the current thread is esc t (with the default
 keybindings, anyway).

As well, you can do a pattern-match tag with 'T'.  After hitting 'T', mutt
will ask for a pattern, and all messages that match that pattern will be
tagged.

- Myrddin



Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Myrddin

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 07:56:56AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 % pine-like url viewing?  Moving around in the message itself and spawning a
 % browser.  If not, is there a better way to get an URL with some context.
 
 Aha -- you want more than just the URL, then, because of "deficiencies" in
 the /. mail message, right?  In that case, you'll want to just pump your
 message through a browser that can pick up the plaintext URLs (though,
 since you're in a tough boat anyway, you might see if /. offers an HTML
 mail version and get it instead).  Try w3m and links, two text-mode
 browsers that seem to be fairly capable.

BTW, it's lynx, not links.  Sounds like a nitpick, but if the poor guy was
going to do a search on 'links', it wouldn't get him very far.

- Myrddin



Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Lars Hecking


  Aha -- you want more than just the URL, then, because of "deficiencies" in
  the /. mail message, right?  In that case, you'll want to just pump your
  message through a browser that can pick up the plaintext URLs (though,
  since you're in a tough boat anyway, you might see if /. offers an HTML
  mail version and get it instead).  Try w3m and links, two text-mode
  browsers that seem to be fairly capable.
 
 BTW, it's lynx, not links.  Sounds like a nitpick, but if the poor guy was
 going to do a search on 'links', it wouldn't get him very far.

 $ man links

NAME
 links - lynx-like alternative character mode WWW browser

[...]

 HTH. HAND.




Re: displaying to_chars flags

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:25:01AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 
 I've added you to the cc: field, so this message should generate a 'C'
 char for you.  Does it?

I upgraded to 1.3.9i. I still cannot see the to_chars. But I
remembered something. How does mutt know my email address? It is not
displayed when I write a msg, and left to sendmail to specify. When I want
to use a different from: address (as in the case of this mailing list) I
need to specify it by hand, but this is another thing. 

The question is how do I tell mutt who I am...


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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Myrddin wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 07:56:56AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
  % pine-like url viewing?  Moving around in the message itself and spawning a
  % browser.  If not, is there a better way to get an URL with some context.
  
  Aha -- you want more than just the URL, then, because of "deficiencies" in
  the /. mail message, right?  In that case, you'll want to just pump your
  message through a browser that can pick up the plaintext URLs (though,
  since you're in a tough boat anyway, you might see if /. offers an HTML
  mail version and get it instead).  Try w3m and links, two text-mode
  browsers that seem to be fairly capable.
 
 BTW, it's lynx, not links.  Sounds like a nitpick, but if the poor guy was
 going to do a search on 'links', it wouldn't get him very far.

well, there is a browser named 'links' (which in this instance doesn't
appear to offer any advantage over 'lynx').  It's a badly chosen name, agreed.

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread David McNett

On 11-Sep-2000, Myrddin wrote:
BTW, it's lynx, not links.  Sounds like a nitpick, but if the poor guy
was going to do a search on 'links', it wouldn't get him very far.

Actually, it is links.  lynx seems to have fallen into disfavor lately
in reaction to several recent security issues.  Many people have chosen
to migrate to w3m or links which appear to be more secure and are
functionally superior to lynx in nearly all regards.

http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/vyplody/links/
http://www.instinct.org/w3m/

David T-G's suggestion is a good one, btw.  Very nice idea.

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:26:51AM -0700, Myrddin wrote:
 
 BTW, it's lynx, not links.  Sounds like a nitpick, but if the poor guy was
 going to do a search on 'links', it wouldn't get him very far.
 
 - Myrddin

Well, just for the record, 'links' is also a text based web browser,
as 'lynx'.

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Canceling 'compose mail (m)' command

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Alves

Just a little question. When I accidently press 'm' to compose a new
mail, how do I reverse it? ctr-c asks if I want to exit mutt, and its
annoying to go through all the menus just to press 'q' in the main window..


Minor question, but if someone knows the answer...

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, David McNett wrote:

 On 11-Sep-2000, Myrddin wrote:
 BTW, it's lynx, not links.  Sounds like a nitpick, but if the poor guy
 was going to do a search on 'links', it wouldn't get him very far.
 
 Actually, it is links.  lynx seems to have fallen into disfavor lately
 in reaction to several recent security issues.  Many people have chosen

..which were fixed months ago.  Same bugs apply to links and w3m, btw.

 to migrate to w3m or links which appear to be more secure and are
 functionally superior to lynx in nearly all regards.

( your opinion ;-)

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Re: Canceling 'compose mail (m)' command

2000-09-11 Thread Ronny Haryanto

On 11-Sep-2000, Pedro Alves wrote:
   Just a little question. When I accidently press 'm' to compose a new
 mail, how do I reverse it? ctr-c asks if I want to exit mutt, and its
 annoying to go through all the menus just to press 'q' in the main window..

Ctrl-G cancels, it works almost everywhere.

Ronny



Re: Canceling 'compose mail (m)' command

2000-09-11 Thread Dan Boger

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:13:35PM +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
   Just a little question. When I accidently press 'm' to compose a new
 mail, how do I reverse it? ctr-c asks if I want to exit mutt, and its
 annoying to go through all the menus just to press 'q' in the main window..
 
 
   Minor question, but if someone knows the answer...

Try ctrl-G

Dan

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Re: Canceling 'compose mail (m)' command

2000-09-11 Thread Telsa Gwynne

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:13:35PM +0100 or thereabouts, Pedro Alves wrote:
   Just a little question. When I accidently press 'm' to compose a new
 mail, how do I reverse it? ctr-c asks if I want to exit mutt, and its
 annoying to go through all the menus just to press 'q' in the main window..

Well, if you get a prompt asing to whom to send it, just hit return
on a blank entry. Works for subject lines too.

Actually, I bet this is altered by various options: there's one to
drop you straight into the editor with the To, Subject and something
at the top, isn't there? Try quitting the editor after making no
changes at all (not even adding a blank line or a space)...?

Telsa



Re: Canceling 'compose mail (m)' command

2000-09-11 Thread Alan

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:13:35PM +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
   Just a little question. When I accidently press 'm' to compose a new
 mail, how do I reverse it? ctr-c asks if I want to exit mutt, and its
 annoying to go through all the menus just to press 'q' in the main window..

Use CTRL-g to cancel.

Regards,

arc

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subscribe and lists

2000-09-11 Thread Dan Boger

Can someone please explain to me the difference between subscribe and lists?
Also, is there a way to tell the index that even though a message was sent
to a list I'm subscribed to, I still want to see who sent it?  For example
My procmailrc puts all mutt-users mail in one folder... but when I look at
the index there, all I see is "To mutt-users", "CC mutt-users" - is there
a way to tell it to show me the original sender?

Thanks :)

Dan

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pkspxycwrap subsitute

2000-09-11 Thread hal King

Hi mutt'sters! 
Does anynoe have or know of a substitute for the pkspxy package. I'm on
Solaris and I'm having a heck of a time porting it. 
-- 

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Rob Reid

At 12:29 AM EDT on September 11 Shane Wegner sent off:
 Hi,
 
 I am wondering if there is any more information on viewing URLs in mutt then
 is contained in the manual.

As you've seen, there's a lot.  Quite an educational thread.

 If I hit ctrl+b (spawn urlview) on a post like this, it gives me a nice yet
 utterly meaningless set of URLs.  Is there any feature which allows
 pine-like url viewing?  Moving around in the message itself and spawning a
 browser.  If not, is there a better way to get an URL with some context.

My favorite way is to use mutt in a URL aware terminal, so I can just right
click on any URL to have netscape load it up.  I use dingus, a modified rxvt
2.4.5 that you can get at http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/software/ but you
might already be able to do it in gnome-terminal.  gnome-terminal manages
backgrounds better, but its magic clicking isn't as flexible or convienient.

And now for a purely speculative method: it mmiigghhtt* be possible to
run mutt inside emacs, and use emacs to middle click on URLs like in gnus.  I
doubt it, though.  ;-) It'd probably be easier just to use a webcam to see
which URLs you're looking at.

* IIRC, it's been mathematically proven that emacs can do anything.

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muttzilla

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Morris

Hi, I'm running debian 2.2 woody and I just did apt-get install
muttzilla and sure enough there was a debian muttzilla package, which
apt faithfully installed and set up. Trouble is, there's no man page
(like I'd read it anyhow..) and when I call a mail-to url in netscape,
it just brings up the regular netscape mail program. Oh, I'm using
netscape 4.75. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
thanks

--dale 

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the societies in which they occur."
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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Brian Foley

* Thomas E. Dickey [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] on [11-09-00] wrote:
  to migrate to w3m or links which appear to be more secure and are
  functionally superior to lynx in nearly all regards.
 
 ( your opinion ;-)
 
As far as I am aware, one of the main advantages of links or w3m over
lynx is the superior handling of tables, which you find on a lot of
web-sites these days (including slashdot, the original ref for this
thread).  As far as I know lynx doesnt have table support (feel free
to correct me if I am wrong).
Regards
  Brian.



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mailboxes vs. folders?

2000-09-11 Thread DuCharme, Robert

This seems like a dumb question, but what's the difference between mailboxes
and folders? I couldn't find anything in the Mutt literature. What
advantages does each offer over the other?
  
 thanks,
  
 Bob



Re: pkspxycwrap subsitute

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-09-11 14:46:43 -0400, hal King wrote:

 Hi mutt'sters! 
 Does anynoe have or know of a substitute for the pkspxy package. I'm on
   Solaris and I'm having a heck of a time porting it. 

A problem report on this would certainly be welcome.

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Re: muttzilla

2000-09-11 Thread Bob Bell

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:56:08AM -0700, Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, I'm running debian 2.2 woody and I just did apt-get install
 muttzilla and sure enough there was a debian muttzilla package, which
 apt faithfully installed and set up. Trouble is, there's no man page
 (like I'd read it anyhow..) and when I call a mail-to url in netscape,
 it just brings up the regular netscape mail program. Oh, I'm using
 netscape 4.75. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
 thanks

You probably have to set up your preferences file.  The muttzilla
home page should have more information:
http://www3.telus.net/brian_winters/mutt/

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Re: muttzilla

2000-09-11 Thread Jason Helfman

I've never had a problem with getting mail to work, but getting news to
work or not work has always been the issue.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:47:18PM -0400, Bob Bell muttered:
| On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:56:08AM -0700, Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Hi, I'm running debian 2.2 woody and I just did apt-get install
|  muttzilla and sure enough there was a debian muttzilla package, which
|  apt faithfully installed and set up. Trouble is, there's no man page
|  (like I'd read it anyhow..) and when I call a mail-to url in netscape,
|  it just brings up the regular netscape mail program. Oh, I'm using
|  netscape 4.75. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
|  thanks
| 
| You probably have to set up your preferences file.  The muttzilla
| home page should have more information:
| http://www3.telus.net/brian_winters/mutt/
| 
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|-- Edsger W. Dijkstra, University of Texas
| 

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Re: mailboxes vs. folders?

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Bob --

...and then DuCharme, Robert said...
% This seems like a dumb question, but what's the difference between mailboxes
% and folders? I couldn't find anything in the Mutt literature. What
% advantages does each offer over the other?

None :-)  If you find any inconsistent uses in the manual, we'd love a
note about it (or, better yet, a patch against the latest version!), but
they're functionally equivalent.

On a very nitpicky level, some (not I) might say that a mailbox is a
single filesystem file containing multiple mail messages and that a
folder is a directory of multiple files each containing a single message.
That's pretty ridiculous, though.


%   
%  thanks,
%   
%  Bob


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Re: subscribe and lists

2000-09-11 Thread Juergen Salk

* Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000911 21:55]:
 Also, is there a way to tell the index that even though a message was sent
 to a list I'm subscribed to, I still want to see who sent it?  

Try changing the "L" in your index_format to "F", e.g. change

set index_format="%4C %Z %[!%d%m%y] %-17.17L (%3l) %s

to 

set index_format="%4C %Z %[!%d%m%y] %-17.17F (%3l) %s

in your ~/.muttrc file.

Hope that helps.

Regards - Juergen.



Re: subscribe and lists

2000-09-11 Thread Dan Boger

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:22:46PM +0200, Juergen Salk wrote:
 * Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000911 21:55]:
  Also, is there a way to tell the index that even though a message was sent
  to a list I'm subscribed to, I still want to see who sent it?  
 
 Try changing the "L" in your index_format to "F", e.g. change
 
 set index_format="%4C %Z %[!%d%m%y] %-17.17L (%3l) %s
 
 to 
 
 set index_format="%4C %Z %[!%d%m%y] %-17.17F (%3l) %s

thanks!  that did the trick :)

Dan

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tab doesn't find new messages

2000-09-11 Thread Erwin Kaiser

I'm new to mutt and first of all want to thank all developers: I like it
very much!
What I don't understand is that the manual promises that tab goes to the
next unread message in the mailboxes specified by the mailbox command.
I listed all I feed by procmail but I have to change manually - via "c" - to
the folders where the new unread messages are stored. 
Thanks for any hints!
Erwin



Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Brian Foley wrote:

 * Thomas E. Dickey [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] on [11-09-00] wrote:
   to migrate to w3m or links which appear to be more secure and are
   functionally superior to lynx in nearly all regards.
  
  ( your opinion ;-)
  
 As far as I am aware, one of the main advantages of links or w3m over
 lynx is the superior handling of tables, which you find on a lot of
 web-sites these days (including slashdot, the original ref for this
 thread).  As far as I know lynx doesnt have table support (feel free
 to correct me if I am wrong).

lynx recognizes tables and renders them according to its own tradeoffs.
(ditto for frames).

(otoh, links' _navigation_ of tables needs a lot of work ;-)

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Brian Foley wrote:

 As far as I am aware, one of the main advantages of links or w3m over
 lynx is the superior handling of tables, which you find on a lot of
 web-sites these days (including slashdot, the original ref for this
 thread).  As far as I know lynx doesnt have table support (feel free

perhaps I came on the thread late - I saw that it had nothing to do with
table support, but mailcap and related issues.

 to correct me if I am wrong).
 Regards
   Brian.

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Re: subscribe and lists

2000-09-11 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 11 Sep 2000:
 Can someone please explain to me the difference between subscribe and lists?

subscribe tells Mutt that the address is a mailing list to which you're
subscribed to.

lists tells Mutt that the address is a mailing list, but you're not
subscribed to it.

The distinction is only relevant in the creation of the Mail-Followup-To
header (where it is *very* relevant).


Hope this helps,
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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Myrddin

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 04:50:22PM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:
 
   Aha -- you want more than just the URL, then, because of "deficiencies" in
   the /. mail message, right?  In that case, you'll want to just pump your
   message through a browser that can pick up the plaintext URLs (though,
   since you're in a tough boat anyway, you might see if /. offers an HTML
   mail version and get it instead).  Try w3m and links, two text-mode
   browsers that seem to be fairly capable.
  
  BTW, it's lynx, not links.  Sounds like a nitpick, but if the poor guy was
  going to do a search on 'links', it wouldn't get him very far.
 
  $ man links
 
 NAME
  links - lynx-like alternative character mode WWW browser

Well, poo on me. That's what I get for shooting my big mouth off. =)

- Myrddin



Re: muttzilla

2000-09-11 Thread Brian D. Winters

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:56:08AM -0700, Dale Morris wrote:
 Hi, I'm running debian 2.2 woody and I just did apt-get install
 muttzilla and sure enough there was a debian muttzilla package, which

One of these days I should check out the various muttzilla packages I
keep hearing about.  Among other things, I wonder how the packagers
choose to handle the compile-time decision of mail only, news only, or
mail and news support.  I also wonder if they bother to include all of
the docs.  Btw, my web page won't help you much directly, but it will
let you download the full tar.gz, including all of the setup
instructions.

Anyway, there is now an archived support list for muttzilla:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  If you have any further
problems, please ask the folks there.

Brian



Re: tab doesn't find new messages

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Erwin --

...and then Erwin Kaiser said...
% I'm new to mutt and first of all want to thank all developers: I like it
% very much!

Welcome, and we're glad to hear it.  The rest of us mortal users thank
them a lot, too :-)


% What I don't understand is that the manual promises that tab goes to the
% next unread message in the mailboxes specified by the mailbox command.
% I listed all I feed by procmail but I have to change manually - via "c" - to
% the folders where the new unread messages are stored. 

I think that that might be a perception problem, or a manual in need of
re-wording.  tab will take you to the next new message in your current
mailbox, or take you to the next mailbox that has new mail when you're
looking through the list of mailboxes, but you *do* have to initiate a
change of mailboxes.  That's actually a feature, since you mightn't want
mutt to commit changes on the current mailbox when you try going to the
next new message and would have to change...


% Thanks for any hints!

HTH  HAND


% Erwin


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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread David McNett

On 11-Sep-2000, Thomas E. Dickey wrote:
 perhaps I came on the thread late - I saw that it had nothing to do with
 table support, but mailcap and related issues.

-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1047184 Sep 11 11:31 /usr/local/bin/lynx
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   321608 Jun  4 19:06 /usr/local/bin/links
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   261132 May 22 08:10 /usr/local/bin/w3m

This is reason enough for me to prefer w3m for the specific case we're
discussing.  Table support or no, it's hard to justify the size of lynx
for what the original poster wants to do.  In addition to having
worthwhile tables support, w3m is about a quarter the size of lynx.
Since tables are commonly used for page layout in html, this is a
concern, even when dealing with text/html mail viewing.

I can appreciate Thomas' desire to defend his preference, and in reality
any one of the three makes a suitable solution to the original poster's
question.

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nonstandard screen size

2000-09-11 Thread Jeff Williams

I use a Psion S5 as a dumb terminal to connect to my office computer
(dialup), then invoke Mutt to check my email (using TERM=vt100).  The
problem is that the Psion screen, though it is supposed to be `vt100'
in most respects, is physically only 18 lines, and the display gets
scrambled.  How can I tell Mutt to work with an 18 line x 80 column
screen?  Thanks,

jtw




Re: muttzilla

2000-09-11 Thread Morten Liebach

On 11, sep, 2000 at 11:56:08 -0700, Dale Morris wrote:
 Hi, I'm running debian 2.2 woody and I just did apt-get install

Uhm ... 2.2 is Potato, Woody doesn't have a number yet.

 muttzilla and sure enough there was a debian muttzilla package, which
 apt faithfully installed and set up. Trouble is, there's no man page
 (like I'd read it anyhow..) and when I call a mail-to url in netscape,
 it just brings up the regular netscape mail program. Oh, I'm using
 netscape 4.75. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
 thanks

Sure, read /usr/share/doc/muttzilla/INSTALL, that'll explain it, even I
could follow the instructions. :-)

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 the societies in which they occur."
   --Albert North Whitehead
 
Another Whitehead quote I like:

``Without adventure, civilization is in full decay.''

HTH, HAND
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Possible bug

2000-09-11 Thread Jens Askengren

Hello

I was trying to make each key bind to the same functions in every menu when
I discovered this (bug?):

# This works as expected
macro index I   "change-folder!\n" "Goto Inbox"

# This produces an error when "I" is pressed
macro browser   I   "change-folder!\n" "Goto Inbox"

# I added this line by mistake. When "c" is pressed mutt stops
# responding to keyboard input and jumps to 100% cpu utilization:
macro browser   c   "change-folder!\n" "Goto Inbox"


Another thing I consider to be a usability bug is that the "mail"-function
isn't available under the "browser"-menu. 

-Jens




folder-hook to set sort order

2000-09-11 Thread Peter Jaques

i want to sort a certain folder (the one for this mailing list, in fact!)
by thread. i'm trying this, but it doesn't work:

folder-hook =mutt set sort=thread

what am i doing wrong? i'm using mutt 1.2i.

thanks
peter




Re: nonstandard screen size

2000-09-11 Thread David T-G

Jeff --

...and then Jeff Williams said...
% I use a Psion S5 as a dumb terminal to connect to my office computer
...
% problem is that the Psion screen, though it is supposed to be `vt100'
% in most respects, is physically only 18 lines, and the display gets
% scrambled.  How can I tell Mutt to work with an 18 line x 80 column
% screen?  Thanks,

Use your stty command to set the number of rows to 18 like

  stty rows 18
  
or so.  It's all up to the term; mutt doesn't have any number-of-rows
setting (AFAIK...).


% 
% jtw

HTH  HAND


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Re: nonstandard screen size

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:50:17PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 ...and then Jeff Williams said...
 % I use a Psion S5 as a dumb terminal to connect to my office computer
 ...
 % problem is that the Psion screen, though it is supposed to be `vt100'
 % in most respects, is physically only 18 lines, and the display gets
 % scrambled.  How can I tell Mutt to work with an 18 line x 80 column
 % screen?  Thanks,
 
 Use your stty command to set the number of rows to 18 like
 
   stty rows 18
   
 or so.  It's all up to the term; mutt doesn't have any number-of-rows
 setting (AFAIK...).

but the screen libraries do ($LINES and $COLUMNS environment variables,
for instance, if they cannot get the information from stty).  Not all
stty commands have a rows or columns option (and I've run into at least
one - IRIX - where it does not work consistently.

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 04:49:18PM -0500, David McNett wrote:
 On 11-Sep-2000, Thomas E. Dickey wrote:
  perhaps I came on the thread late - I saw that it had nothing to do with
  table support, but mailcap and related issues.
 
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1047184 Sep 11 11:31 /usr/local/bin/lynx
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   321608 Jun  4 19:06 /usr/local/bin/links
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   261132 May 22 08:10 /usr/local/bin/w3m
 
 This is reason enough for me to prefer w3m for the specific case we're
 discussing.  Table support or no, it's hard to justify the size of lynx

let's see - odds are you use vim (or emacs).
vim's 3-4 times larger than the original vi.

(or are you consistent and use 'ed'?)

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Re: how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Rob Watkin

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:24:14AM -0700, Myrddin wrote:
 As well, you can do a pattern-match tag with 'T'.  After hitting 'T', mutt
 will ask for a pattern, and all messages that match that pattern will be
 tagged.

Wonderful, now how do I untag them? :)

Rob




Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Rob Watkin

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:19:19PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:29:09PM -0700, Shane Wegner wrote:
 
  I am wondering if there is any more information on viewing URLs in mutt then
  is contained in the manual.  The problem I have quite often is that spawning
  urlview is not neirly as flexable as I'd like it to be.
 
 [...]

 I use the w3m browser instead of urlview for this.  It works great.
 Simply pipe your message from slashdot to w3m, which displays the full
 text of the message, then type a colon (:).  This will cause w3m to

I don't have w3c so I tried "|lynx" this opend lynx fine but it doesn't
show that page?

Rob




Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread David McNett

On 11-Sep-2000, Thomas Dickey wrote:
 let's see - odds are you use vim (or emacs).
 vim's 3-4 times larger than the original vi.
 
 (or are you consistent and use 'ed'?)

Thomas -- it's quite clear you're more concerned with defending your
preference than in finding the optimal solution.  I'm afraid you're just
going to have to learn to live with the fact that many of us don't share
your emotional commitment to lynx.

Your analogy is strained because vim provides features well in excess of
vi, justifying the increase in size.  The only "benefits" that lynx
seems to have are that it doesn't do as good a job at displaying tables as
the alternatives and that you prefer it.

Whether or not you come to grips with the fact that I find w3m and links
superior to lynx, we're now safely into off-topic land for this list.

If you're not sure yet if I've realized that you are uncomfortable with
others disagreeing with you, please reply in private email and I'd be
more than happy to continue listening to you tell me that you think 
lynx is better.

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Re: how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Beuchler

On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 10:40:49AM +1100, Rob Watkin wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:24:14AM -0700, Myrddin wrote:
  As well, you can do a pattern-match tag with 'T'.  After hitting 'T', mutt
  will ask for a pattern, and all messages that match that pattern will be
  tagged.
 
 Wonderful, now how do I untag them? :)

Have you noted the "?:Help" message in the top right-hand corner of your
screen?  Hitting "?" and then searching for untag by typing "/untag"
brings me to this line:

^T  untag-pattern  untag messages matching a pattern

Now c'mon...  That didn't even require opening the manual!

Ben

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Fw: my_hdr stripped when recalling a postponed message

2000-09-11 Thread Jim Breton

Anyone have any ideas on this?  (I didn't get any responses.)

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From: Jim Breton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:27:23 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: my_hdr stripped when recalling a postponed message

Is this a bug, or intended behavior?

1) compose a message with a user-defined Return-Path my_hdr
2) postpone it
3) recall it
4) note that the user-defined Return-Path is gone

The Return-Path line is saved in the "postponed" file when you postpone
it; but, when you read it back in for editing, it gets wiped out.

Thanks.

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Re: how to mark ?

2000-09-11 Thread Bruce DeVisser

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 07:04:04PM -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 10:40:49AM +1100, Rob Watkin wrote:
  Wonderful, now how do I untag them? :)
 
 Have you noted the "?:Help" message in the top right-hand corner of
 your screen?  Hitting "?" and then searching for untag by typing
 "/untag" brings me to this line:
 
 ^T  untag-pattern  untag messages matching a pattern
 
 Now c'mon...  That didn't even require opening the manual!

He'll probably need to know that ~A means 'select-all' too... which
means opening the manual. :)

IMO ;t is a better solution, though it is not immediately obvious from
a reading of the manual.

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 10:34:26AM +1100, Rob Watkin wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:19:19PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
  On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:29:09PM -0700, Shane Wegner wrote:
  
   I am wondering if there is any more information on viewing URLs in mutt then
   is contained in the manual.  The problem I have quite often is that spawning
   urlview is not neirly as flexable as I'd like it to be.
  
  [...]
 
  I use the w3m browser instead of urlview for this.  It works great.
  Simply pipe your message from slashdot to w3m, which displays the full
  text of the message, then type a colon (:).  This will cause w3m to
 
 I don't have w3c so I tried "|lynx" this opend lynx fine but it doesn't
 show that page?

Through 2.8.3, lynx doesn't read stdin in the way you are asking.  I
added a -stdin option (to merge this with existing functions), so that
is in the current development version (2.8.4dev.9):

The current version of lynx is 2.8.3

It's available at
http://lynx.browser.org
http://sol.slcc.edu/lynx/release
ftp://lynx.isc.org/lynx-2.8.3
2.8.4 Development  patches:
http://lynx.isc.org/current/index.html

(does 'links' read from stdin? - I tried that today and it blew SIGHUP'd
my xterm ;-)

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:55:55PM -0500, David McNett wrote:
 On 11-Sep-2000, Thomas Dickey wrote:
  let's see - odds are you use vim (or emacs).
  vim's 3-4 times larger than the original vi.
  
  (or are you consistent and use 'ed'?)
 
 Thomas -- it's quite clear you're more concerned with defending your
 preference than in finding the optimal solution.  I'm afraid you're just
 going to have to learn to live with the fact that many of us don't share
 your emotional commitment to lynx.
 
 Your analogy is strained because vim provides features well in excess of
 vi, justifying the increase in size.  The only "benefits" that lynx

nope - I'm being reasonable, and you're not.

(I made a valid comparison  you can't find a response to it)

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Re: Mutt's URL support

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 06:55:55PM -0500, David McNett wrote:
 If you're not sure yet if I've realized that you are uncomfortable with
 others disagreeing with you, please reply in private email and I'd be
 more than happy to continue listening to you tell me that you think 
 lynx is better.

I disagree with people all the time - if they can't make any points
other that by attempting to sound knowledgeable when they're not.

(no point in agreeing with someone on that basis ;-)

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Re: folder-hook to set sort order

2000-09-11 Thread Gary Johnson

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:33:05PM -0700, Peter Jaques wrote:
 i want to sort a certain folder (the one for this mailing list, in fact!)
 by thread. i'm trying this, but it doesn't work:
 
 folder-hook =mutt set sort=thread
 
 what am i doing wrong? i'm using mutt 1.2i.

This is what I have in my muttrc:

set sort_aux=last-date-received

folder-hook .   set sort=date-received
folder-hook +Incoming/. set sort=threads

So, it could be that you used "thread" instead of "threads".  It might
also have something to do with using "=mutt" instead of "+mutt".  I
think the former should work, but I had problems with using "=" for the
default mailbox directory when I started using mutt so I've used "+"
ever since.

Gary

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Re: folder-hook to set sort order

2000-09-11 Thread Peter Jaques

thanks. the problem was "thread" instead of "threads".

take care
peter

On 11 Sep 00, 10:01PM, Gary Johnson wrote:
 So, it could be that you used "thread" instead of "threads".  It might
 also have something to do with using "=mutt" instead of "+mutt".  I
 think the former should work, but I had problems with using "=" for the
 default mailbox directory when I started using mutt so I've used "+"
 ever since.



Re: eterm/mutt manual?

2000-09-11 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen

 Anyhow, when I hit F1 in eterm, it brings up a menu block rather than
 the manual for mutt. Any way around this?
look for "bind anymod 0xffbe" in /usr/share/Eterm/themes/Eterm/theme.cfg
and comment it out.

good luck!

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