Re: Automatic cc to me

2000-11-28 Thread Michael Tatge

Larry Spitz muttered:
> My need is simple: I want to automatically receive a Cc of every message I
> send. I presume that there is a simple variable to set in my .muttrc, but
> I can't work out which one.

Put this into your muttrc:
my_hdr Cc: Your Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> And BTW, what does "fcc" stand for?

It specifies the folder where you'r local copy is saved. You only need this
if it's different from the folder you set $record to.
I guess this is what're looking for.

HTH,

Michael
-- 
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PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key



Re: pager scrolling question

2000-11-28 Thread Gary Johnson

On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 11:45:35PM -0600, Jason wrote:

> I'd like the pager to scroll one line at a time instead of a page at a time.
> Anyone got the trick?

I don't use the internal pager myself, but according to the mutt manual,

  6.4.3.  pager
  ...
  next-lineRET   scroll down one line
  ...
  previous-line  BackSpace   scroll up one line

Gary

-- 
Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit
 | Spokane, Washington, USA



Re: pager scrolling question

2000-11-28 Thread Brendan Cully

On Tuesday, 28 November 2000 at 23:45, Jason wrote:
> howdy
> 
> I'd like the pager to scroll one line at a time instead of a page at a time.
> Anyone got the trick?

,  are bound to next-line and previous-line by
default, I think. Hit ? in the pager...

> The same thing would be nice in the index as well...

set menu_scroll

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pager scrolling question

2000-11-28 Thread Jason

howdy

I'd like the pager to scroll one line at a time instead of a page at a time.
Anyone got the trick?

The same thing would be nice in the index as well...

-- 
Jason Burnett  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.



Re: Resizing mutt windows

2000-11-28 Thread John P. Verel

On 11/29/00, 11:06:14AM +1100, Tom Nott wrote:
> I'm running Mutt 1.2.5i in an xterm with TERM=xterm under Solaris 8.
> 
> Is there any way to get mutt to notice that the terminal has been
> resized? I've told it ^L but it blatently ignores me. Pine and other
> programs have no troubles noticing the change in terminal size.
I run Mutt in a Gnome terminal, Red Hat 7.  Re-sizing works fine for me.  Can
you run a Gnome terminal?  One advantage of it is that it recognizes urls
quite nicely.

John 
> Interestingly, if I quit and restart mutt, it *does* notice that the
> terminal size has changed and everything is as it should be.
> 
> The same problem occurs running under screen 3.09.08 with TERM=vt100
> even though I tell it to 'fit to current region size' with ^A F and
> also tell it ^A l and ^L.
> 
> -- 
> Tom
> 
> [W]hat you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I
> have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were
> you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
>  -- Examiner in "Billy Madison"



Resizing mutt windows

2000-11-28 Thread Tom Nott

I'm running Mutt 1.2.5i in an xterm with TERM=xterm under Solaris 8.

Is there any way to get mutt to notice that the terminal has been
resized? I've told it ^L but it blatently ignores me. Pine and other
programs have no troubles noticing the change in terminal size.

Interestingly, if I quit and restart mutt, it *does* notice that the
terminal size has changed and everything is as it should be.

The same problem occurs running under screen 3.09.08 with TERM=vt100
even though I tell it to 'fit to current region size' with ^A F and
also tell it ^A l and ^L.

-- 
Tom

[W]hat you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I
have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were
you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
 -- Examiner in "Billy Madison"



Re: Alternative use for mutt...

2000-11-28 Thread raf

Tom Hudak wrote:

> Just thought I'd share an alternative to how mutt is generally used, we
> recently converted over to a new imapd server, which uses mbox mail dirs, from
> cyrus which uses individual files for each message. In searching for a way to
> convert quickly and easily from cyrus's message format to mbox, we used mutt
> to simply connect via imap, save all messages locally, and move the mbox file
> to the new spool dir where everyone gets all their messages seamlessly. Just
> thought you would like to know.

you might like to try fetchmail for this.
it can run the background automatically
fetching mail as it arrives. then again,
you might not :)

raf




Re: no Group-Reply to myself

2000-11-28 Thread Michael Elkins

On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 03:40:19PM -0500, Jack wrote:
> Question as the subject.  I dont need to get a CC when Group-Reply.  I
> know,  I can remove it manually,  but is there any hook could be used
> here?

unset metoo

If you have different addresses, make sure that you set up $alternates
appropriately so that it will remove all of your alternate addresses as
well.

me



threads, annoying threads

2000-11-28 Thread Ken Weingold

I need some help here.  I have threads set, and always had
strict_threads unset, but a lot of mail, like from yahoo, wouldn't get
put into the threads, and order of messages would get really
confusing.  I finally tried the other day setting strict_threads and
remembered why I unset it so long ago.  Things wind up even more
confusing, sometimes a replied message to another both showing up on
the same level, and replied to others not fitting anywhere near
logically into the tree.  Any ideas on how to clean this up?  I know
these are more issues of yahoo mail and such, but...

Thanks.


-Ken

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest



no Group-Reply to myself

2000-11-28 Thread Jack


hi,

Question as the subject.  I dont need to get a CC when Group-Reply.  I
know,  I can remove it manually,  but is there any hook could be used
here?

thanks,

jack



Re: Automatic cc to me

2000-11-28 Thread David Alban

At 2000/11/28/10:55 -0800 Larry Spitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My need is simple: I want to automatically receive a Cc of every message I send. I 
>presume that there is a simple variable to set in my .muttrc, but I can't work out 
>which one.

Try including this in your .muttrc file:

  fcc-hook . /path/to/your/inbox

where "/path/to/your/inbox" your email inbox.  For me, this is:

  fcc-hook . /usr/spool/mail/alban

This causes a copy of every outgoing message (sent with mutt) to be
appended to my inbox.[1]  (Although you won't appear in the cc: list.)

> And BTW, what does "fcc" stand for?

"Folder carbon copy"?  "File carbon copy"?

David

[1]  Actually, I have lots of other fcc-hook statements in my .muttrc
 file.  I put this one last, so if none of the others match, an
 outgoing message will be appended to my inbox.
-- 
Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors.



Automatic cc to me

2000-11-28 Thread Larry Spitz

A mutt newbie question. Apologies if this is not the correct forum for such a 
question. If not, please advise me where I can find the answer.

My need is simple: I want to automatically receive a Cc of every message I send. I 
presume that there is a simple variable to set in my .muttrc, but I can't work out 
which one.

And BTW, what does "fcc" stand for?

Larry
 Document Recognition Technologies, Inc.
  616 Ramona Street, Suite 20, Palo Alto, CA 94301 USA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1-650-688-0842 fax: +1-650-688-0841
http://www.docrec.com



saving message/rfc822 attachments to a folder

2000-11-28 Thread Andrew Pimlott

I'm using mutt 1.2.5i from Debian 2.2.  It seems that, if I have a
message with message/rfc822 attachments (eg, some mailing list
digests), I can do some but not all of the operations on the
attachment that I could do on a normal message.  In particular, I
want to save an attachment as a separate message in another folder.
(Pressing s offers to save to a file, as with other attachment
types.)  The best I can do is to bounce the attachment to myself,
then save it.

A neat way to handle this would be to have a mode in which an
attached message/rfc822 (or perhaps all such attachments for a given
message, but this could get confusing for nested message/rfc822
attachments) would be treated as a mini-mailbox, permitting all
functions normally available in index mode.  A keystroke in the
attachment menu would enter this mode.

Please Cc: me on replies, if you don't mind.

Andrew



Re: Slow sending

2000-11-28 Thread Garry Williams

On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 06:05:58PM -0600, Gary wrote:
> Lately, I have been having a strange thing happen.  When I send off
> mail, either a new one or a reply, after hitting "y", it just seems to
> hang for a long time, and takes a minute or more for the mail to be
> sent. I have checked my sendmail, muttrc, etc, but could not see
> anything different.  It just says, "sending mail" and takes a long
> time.  At other times, it sends it right away.  Has anybody else had
> this delay?  

This delay could be coming from sendmail.  A way to find out would be
to "catch" it with a top display.  Often, the problem is looking up
names in the DNS that are associated with interface addresses on the
subject machine.  Run sendmail from the command line in debug mode to
find out: 

$ /usr/lib/sendmail -d0.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null

> Cron is set for hourly.  

Huh?  

-- 
Garry Williams, Zvolve Systems, Inc., +1 770 551-4504



Re: gpg interoperability between mutt and pine

2000-11-28 Thread Ben Beuchler

On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 06:55:55PM +, Jim Breton wrote:

> I use Mutt, and wish to use GPG anytime I send a message to someone
> whose public key I have.
> 
> In some cases, these people use Pine with pgp4pine, whose pgp handling
> is not as nice as Mutt's as I'm sure everyone knows.  :)  But, I have to
> deal with it.
> 
> When I receive a pgp message I just use '| gpg --decrypt' to decrypt, but
> when I wish to send encrypted mail to these people, I am finding that there
> is extra work involved.
> 
> What I'm thinking of is setting up a macro which uses [F]ilter to process
> the message through "gpg --encrypt --armor --recipient X" where X is the
> recipient's address.  I can do this by hand per-message and it seems to
> work well enough.
> 
> My questions are:
> 1) is it possible to use a variable for the recipient address, and
> therefore set up a macro in such a manner that I won't have to
> manually filter the message and enter the recipient each time?
> 2) is there a better way to do this?

In your mutt distribution's contrib directory, you should see a 'gpg.rc'
that has all the normal bindings.

Ben

-- 
Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101
Bitstream Underground   www.bitstream.net



Alternative use for mutt...

2000-11-28 Thread Tom Hudak

Just thought I'd share an alternative to how mutt is generally used, we
recently converted over to a new imapd server, which uses mbox mail dirs, from
cyrus which uses individual files for each message. In searching for a way to
convert quickly and easily from cyrus's message format to mbox, we used mutt
to simply connect via imap, save all messages locally, and move the mbox file
to the new spool dir where everyone gets all their messages seamlessly. Just
thought you would like to know.
Thanks,
-- 
Thomas J. Hudak
Jr. Systems Administrator
Sistina Software Inc.
Phone: 612.379.3951 Fax: 612.379.3952

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Re: User ID different from email address

2000-11-28 Thread Ken Weingold

On Tue, Nov 28, 2000, Maciej Kalisiak wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 05:28:31AM -0500, Marco van Lienen wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:18:55PM -0500,([-30]5797.15) Maciej Kalisiak muttered:
> > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 10:43:21AM -0500, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > > > Have you tried editing your muttrc file and setting the 'from' and
> > > > 'envelope-from' mutt variables to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
> > > 
> > > Actually I think you mean "envelope_from" (underscore, not dash), and in fact
> > > it is a boolean option, so I think you meant "set envelope_from=true".
> > 
> > "set envelope_from=yes" works for me
> 
> Ooops, right, that's correct, boolean variables only have two values "yes" and
> "no".  In fact setting it to "true" gives an error.  I keep forgetting about
> this.

I have simply 'set envelope_from' and it works.


-Ken



Re: .saves-hostname-pid files

2000-11-28 Thread Andrew Nosenko

Brian McGroarty wrote:
: Why do I get a whole bunch of .saves-- files created in
: my home directory? Each is a text file pointing to a file in /tmp with
: mutt in the name.
: 
: I use xemacs as my editor - is this an issue with emacs or a problem
: with my mutt configuration?

This is bug in XEmacs. Was cured in last unstable versions (if I
understand correctly xemacs-patches postings).

This files used for recover your session if you require this over
M-x recover-session
If don't have any session what you want to recover then can safe delete
this files.

-- 
Andrew W. Nosenko([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: User ID different from email address

2000-11-28 Thread Maciej Kalisiak

On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 05:28:31AM -0500, Marco van Lienen wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:18:55PM -0500,([-30]5797.15) Maciej Kalisiak muttered:
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 10:43:21AM -0500, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > > Have you tried editing your muttrc file and setting the 'from' and
> > > 'envelope-from' mutt variables to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
> > 
> > Actually I think you mean "envelope_from" (underscore, not dash), and in fact
> > it is a boolean option, so I think you meant "set envelope_from=true".
> 
> "set envelope_from=yes" works for me

Ooops, right, that's correct, boolean variables only have two values "yes" and
"no".  In fact setting it to "true" gives an error.  I keep forgetting about
this.

-- 
Maciej Kalisiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mac



.saves-hostname-pid files

2000-11-28 Thread Brian McGroarty

Why do I get a whole bunch of .saves-- files created in
my home directory? Each is a text file pointing to a file in /tmp with
mutt in the name.

I use xemacs as my editor - is this an issue with emacs or a problem
with my mutt configuration?



Re: MIME text/plain attachment too big

2000-11-28 Thread David Ellement

On 001128, at 13:54:14, Daniel Kollar wrote:
> When opening a received mail containing a text/plain MIME attachment
> mutt always displays the contents of this attachment inside the pager.
> This can cause a problem when the size of the attachment is several
> MBytes big.
> 
> How do I prevent mutt from showing the contents of text/plain
> attachment inside the pager when a specific size limit is achieved?

Adding %c to $index_format will give you an indication of the total
size of a message, so you could avoid opening the message if it were
too large.

You wouldn't know anything about the attachment types; if it were a
multi-part message, and you just wanted to avoid opening a large
text/plain attachment, mutt would still have to scan the whole
message to determine the attachment types.  If scanning the message 
isn't a problem, but displaying it in the pager is, then you could
use the attachments menu to skip the large ones.

-- 
David Ellement



Re: MIME text/plain attachment too big

2000-11-28 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-11-28 13:54:14 +0100, Daniel Kollar wrote:

> When opening a received mail containing a text/plain MIME
> attachment mutt always displays the contents of this attachment
> inside the pager. This can cause a problem when the size of the
> attachment is several MBytes big.

What kind of problem?

-- 
Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: Slow sending

2000-11-28 Thread Garry Williams

On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 11:21:09PM -0600, Gary wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 09:14:10PM -0500 or thereabouts, Garry Williams wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 06:05:58PM -0600, Gary wrote:
...
> > $ /usr/lib/sendmail -d0.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
> > 
> Garry, Joe, Michael, thanks for your replies. I too think it has
> something to do with the DNS lookup, or something in my configs
> somewhere.  Anyway, from Garry's above, here is what I get.
> 
> Version 8.10.2
>  Compiled with: LDAPMAP MAP_REGEX LOG MATCHGECOS MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7
> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS NISPLUS QUEUE
> SCANF SMTP TCPWRAPPERS USERDB
>  
>  SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) 
>   (short domain name) $w = linux
>   (canonical domain name) $j = linux.local
>  (subdomain name) $m = local
>   (node name) $k = linux
> 

Although this is off-topic, here is your problem.  The sendmail
program will try to look up the names above and will fail.  That
failure will often actually take a minute or so, because sendmail will
continue to retry that long (without a response).  You need to correct
it by modifying your sendmail.cf file or assigning a _real_ name to
your server (one that is actually in the DNS).  Also, see the system
logs for sendmail's complaints about not being able to determine the
name of the system it is running on.  

You really should fix this because sendmail will supply headers that
are really invalid.  This means there will be no way to notify you of
delivery failures, if they occur downstream.  

Hope this helps.  

-- 
Garry Williams, Zvolve Systems, Inc., +1 770 551-4504



MIME text/plain attachment too big

2000-11-28 Thread Daniel Kollar

Hi!

When opening a received mail containing a text/plain MIME attachment
mutt always displays the contents of this attachment inside the pager.
This can cause a problem when the size of the attachment is several
MBytes big.

How do I prevent mutt from showing the contents of text/plain
attachment inside the pager when a specific size limit is achieved?


Thx for answer.

Regards,
Daniel.



bye

2000-11-28 Thread Erwin Kaiser

I'm using mutt now about three months and just cancelled my subscription to
this list. Before I leave I want to say that this list helped me very much,
that I appreciate the work of the developers group and last but not least
that the atmosphere in this list was very friendly.
Erwin



Yet another GPG question

2000-11-28 Thread Jesper Holmberg

Hi everyone!

I'm afraid all these gpg-questions in the end will drive you mutt-gpg
experts crazy. But after reading everything I can come over, and
searching the archives, I have a few problems I can't resolve.

I'm using mutt 1.2.5 and gpg 1.0.4. I am corresponding with a friend
who's using Windows Outlook 2000 and PGP 6.0.2.

1. When I send him encrypted e-mails, he receives them as two files in
an e-mail, called << File: msg.asc >> and << File: ATT7.dat >>.
This seems to me as if it's working pretty good, and that his mail
program recognizes pgp/mime. However, he tells me the files are
incorrectly named, that the .asc file should be the .dat file and vice
versa. If he saves the files and decrypts them manually (switching
them), it all works. But why the naming problem?

2. When I send him signed e-mails, he receives the signature as an
attached file, which he has to deal with manually. Would this mean I
should use pgp_create_traditional? But the docs say this is only
working if one uses 7-bit ascii, and we're communicating in Swedish,
using iso-8859-1, so this wouldn't work, would it?

Thanks in advance,

Jesper


-- 
"But how can one be warm alone?"

Jesper Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: User ID different from email address

2000-11-28 Thread Marco van Lienen

On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:18:55PM -0500,([-30]5797.15) Maciej Kalisiak muttered:
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 10:43:21AM -0500, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > Have you tried editing your muttrc file and setting the 'from' and
> > 'envelope-from' mutt variables to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
> 
> Actually I think you mean "envelope_from" (underscore, not dash), and in fact
> it is a boolean option, so I think you meant "set envelope_from=true".

"set envelope_from=yes" works for me


> 
> HTH,
> 
> -- 
> Maciej Kalisiak   [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mac

-- 
Marco van Lienen[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Shhh... be vewy, vewy, quiet!  I'm hunting wabbits...

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