Is this list active

2000-12-15 Thread John Indra

Dear all...

Like the subject line says, I'm wondering whether this list is active or
not?
Since my subscription, I haven't receive a single message.

Regards,
John




Re: Is this list active

2000-12-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

John Indra proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 Like the subject line says, I'm wondering whether this list is active or
 not?
 Since my subscription, I haven't receive a single message.
 
 maybe you just have a full mailbox?

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Re: Is this list active

2000-12-15 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

Like the subject line says, I'm wondering whether this list is active or
not?
We're discussing even things we shouldn't.

Since my subscription, I haven't receive a single message.
Did you receive your own?

Thorsten



Re: Is this list active

2000-12-15 Thread John Indra

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:

|We're discussing even things we shouldn't.

:)

|Did you receive your own?

Yes... then this list is alive for all this time. My mistake then, sorry...

|Thorsten

Regards,
John




keeping folder/mailbox status state upon exit

2000-12-15 Thread Daniel Freedman

Hi,

Apologies upfront if this is well-known, but I searched mutt.org's FAQ
and manual, google's linux area , deja, etc. and came up completely
empty.

I'd very much like to be able to set a message's status to 'deleted',
but: without synchronizing my mailbox/folder so as to actually expunge
the message, I'd like to be able to either quit mutt or just change
folders, and have these messages' status be kept.  I'm sure that
others have similarly wanted to use some method like this especially
when tracking a high-volume mailing list, where I wouldn't want to
prematurely expunge messages I've deleted, or else future replies on
the list wouldn't obviously be threaded under the ones I've read.  I
could imagine using the OLD versus NEW flags to accomplish something
similar, but I'd prefer to be unanbiguous in my mind and use the
DELETE flag instead.

Thanks so much for the suggestions (just a pointer to the right
document would also be appreciated).

Take care,

Daniel


PS.  Please cc me on replies as I don't subscribe.  Thanks so much.

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Cornell University



Re: Question regarding clearsigning emails automatically

2000-12-15 Thread Martin

On Thursday, December 14, 2000 (CS:4.50.349) 18:44:14 [PM] (+)
Bruno Postle [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote...
 
 I'm very inconsistent with signing mail (especially if I know it's going
 to end up being viewed in Outlook) - but really all I'm doing is

OK. In Outlook the signature is shown as an atachement. But i dont know that
many lusers using M$. (But thats just happy me)

 encouraging people to think that _sometimes_ I don't sign my mail.
 
 What this means is that next time somebody forges my identity, nobody
 will think it's a forgery (they will just think I forgot to sign again).

Right. Call me paranoid, but i tell everyone im signing ALL my messages. If
they get a message that looks like its coming from me and isnt signed, they
know this message in not from me!

 
 Really, you should be signing everything or nothing.
 

Signing only makes sense when the public key is available on the keyservers.
This is a hint to everyone who posts on this list - i know there are a few who
*forgot* to upload it...BG

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qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Marco Ahrendt

hi all,

I´m using qmail as my MTA and procmail for filtering my mails.
I compiled procmail like this:

marco@voyager:~  procmail -v
[..snip..]
Locking strategies: dotlocking, fcntl(), lockf(), flock()
Default rcfile: $HOME/.procmailrc
Your system mailbox:/home/marco/Maildir/
[..snip..]

my .procmailrc includes the following:
[..snip..]
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
LOGFILE=$HOME/procmail.log
...some rules
[..snip..]

my qmailrc:
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start '|preline procmail' splogger qmail

the spool directory is a link to my Maildir:
lrwxrwxrwx   1 marcousers20 Nov 27 20:44 marco -
/home/marco/Maildir/

I used mbox before I changed to maildir and now procmails does nothing.
the procmail.log wasn´t created by procmail too. there are no error
messages. what the hell is going on here ? :)

thx for help, Marco

PS: mutt handles the maildir´s very fine :)


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Re: qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Chris Green

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 01:54:46PM +0100, Marco Ahrendt wrote:
 hi all,
 
 I?m using qmail as my MTA and procmail for filtering my mails.
 I compiled procmail like this:
 
 marco@voyager:~  procmail -v
 [..snip..]
 Locking strategies: dotlocking, fcntl(), lockf(), flock()
 Default rcfile: $HOME/.procmailrc
 Your system mailbox:/home/marco/Maildir/
 [..snip..]
 
 my .procmailrc includes the following:
 [..snip..]
 MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
 LOGFILE=$HOME/procmail.log
 ...some rules
 [..snip..]
 
 my qmailrc:
 exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
 qmail-start '|preline procmail' splogger qmail
 
 the spool directory is a link to my Maildir:
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 marcousers20 Nov 27 20:44 marco -
 /home/marco/Maildir/
 
 I used mbox before I changed to maildir and now procmails does nothing.
 the procmail.log wasn?t created by procmail too. there are no error
 messages. what the hell is going on here ? :)
 
You have got at least version 3.15 of procmail have you?

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Re: gnupg vs pgp? Really getting OT

2000-12-15 Thread Kai Blin

* Jesper Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14/12/00, 22:10:31]:

 This 'Leitkultur' discussion you Germans are having these days does
 send chills down the spines of your fellow European neighbours.

Not only the neighbours' spines, I can assure you. I don't know how much of
this extraordinarily stupid discussions are in news elsewhere, though.
But it's _not_ we Germans. And actually, it's not a recent discussion.
It's only a new guy in politics who tries to profile himself. A poor  way of
doing it, for sure.

Kai

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Re: qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Marco Ahrendt

yes, procmail v3.15 2000/08/25 !

with procmail v3.13 + mbox everything worked fine.

Marco

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:50:39PM +, Chris Green wrote:
  
  I?m using qmail as my MTA and procmail for filtering my mails.
  I used mbox before I changed to maildir and now procmails does nothing.
  the procmail.log wasn?t created by procmail too. there are no error
  messages. what the hell is going on here ? :)
  
 You have got at least version 3.15 of procmail have you?

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Outlook (again)

2000-12-15 Thread Bruno Postle

On Fri 15-Dec-2000 at 12:47:44PM +0100, Martin wrote:

 OK. In Outlook the signature is shown as an atachement.

It's worse than that, if you use 'multipart/signed' the message body
appears as an attachment (apparently - I've never actually seen this).

Something I have found out recently is that 'multipart/mixed' messages
_are_ displayed inline by outlook, even when they are pgp/mime signed as
well.

For instance, this:

  macro compose y 'attach-file/dev/nullentersend-message'

will force 'multipart/mixed' outgoing mail.

YMMV, I'm not recommending that anyone actually uses this, I don't have
an 'outlook test suite' to check it. At the very least you will get lots
of mail saying "what's this 'null' file? I can't seem to open it. It
must be a virus." etc..

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Re: Is this list active

2000-12-15 Thread Jonathan Gift

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:12:54PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 00-12-15, Jonathan Gift wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:
 
 Nope, no one here.

Sorry, joke. You were asking if anyone was in the list. Answering no was
my attempt at humor since by definition the no was an indication there
was life in the group. No offense meant.

Jonathan

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Re: gnupg vs pgp? Really getting OT

2000-12-15 Thread Jesper Holmberg

* On Friday, December 15, Kai Blin wrote:
 But it's _not_ we Germans. And actually, it's not a recent discussion.
 It's only a new guy in politics who tries to profile himself. A poor way of
 doing it, for sure.

I get your point. Sorry. It was not my intention to insult all Germans.

Over and out.

Jesper

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index_format: ANSI colors

2000-12-15 Thread Bjornar Ness

Hello fellow mutt users.
I want to colorize my index a bit more. How do I do this?
Tried with some ansi sequences.. did not work, why? I think
it would be great to be able to do this.

And one more thing.. mutt really needs a simple, yet powerful
to/from/cc/?? procmailrc frontend. Nice for all of us I think.
Could work allmost like the a(lias) command.

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Re: Trying to wrap my messages at 72 characters

2000-12-15 Thread Bryan Walton

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:29:47PM -0600, David Champion wrote:
 On 2000.12.14, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   "Bryan Walton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  vi understands the wl.  However, when I begin to compose a message in
  mutt, the addition of this "wrap command" has the effect of positioning 
  my cursor at the bottom of my signature, and not at the top of the
  screen.  Is there something I can tell Mutt to make my cursor begin at
  the very top of the message that I am composing?
 
 Create or modify the file ".exrc" in your home directory.  Add a line reading:
 
   set wl=72
 
 (The leading tab is just for distinction here; don't put it in the file.)
 

Thank you to everyone who offered ideas.  David, thanks a bunch.  Your
idea of the .exrc file fixed my problem.  I created that file and then
removed the line from my .muttrc

Thanks,
Bryan Walton
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Re: compressed mailbox mutt

2000-12-15 Thread Rajesh Fowkar

Thanks everybody for all the help. I had in fact made blunder of using tar. gzip works 
fine. No problem.
Excellent feature of mutt.

Warm Regards


Rajesh

Michael Tatge saw fit to inform me that: 
Rajesh Fowkar muttered:
 I have downloaded the new mutt 1.2.5i rpm with compressed folder
 option enabled.
 
 I have created a gzip file oldlih.gz ( tar -zcvf oldlih nov2000 )
 ^^^   ^^
The result is a tared and gziped file named 'oldlih'.

 Here nov2000 is the archieve of the mailing list mailbox of nov. The
 new /etc/Muttrc has got the following additional hooks for compressed
 folders :
 
 # gzip
 open-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -cd %f  %t"
 close-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -c %t  %f"
 append-hook \\.gz$ "gzip -c %t  %f"

First of all these hooks only work with files named *.gz. They won't be
executed on your 'oldlih' file!
I don't use the compressed foler patch, does it work with tared files?
If not, mutt won't be able to read the result that open-hook produces.
Remember it's a tar file now, since gzip uncompressed it.

 But when I try to access this oldlih.gz I am getting the message for
 a split second decompressing oldlih.gz and than the mutt bar displays
 the message no mailbox. What's wrong ?

Ah, the patch cannot handle tar files, so don't use tar! For a
single mbox file it's useless anyway.
For testing I would suggest to not modify the original file:
gzip -c nov2000  oldlih.gz; mutt -f oldlih.gz


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Re: keeping folder/mailbox status state upon exit

2000-12-15 Thread David T-G

Daniel --

...and then Daniel Freedman said...
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% Apologies upfront if this is well-known, but I searched mutt.org's FAQ
% and manual, google's linux area , deja, etc. and came up completely
% empty.
% 
% I'd very much like to be able to set a message's status to 'deleted',
% but: without synchronizing my mailbox/folder so as to actually expunge
...
% similar, but I'd prefer to be unanbiguous in my mind and use the
% DELETE flag instead.

While that makes some sense, and I can understand your thoughts about
threading becoming messy, that is not available in mutt.  You can either
quit or change and that will both sync your mailbox and mark items as old
if you have mark_old set or you can just sync (bound by default to $) to
write flag settings and purge deleted items, but there's no way to keep
them around.


% 
% Thanks so much for the suggestions (just a pointer to the right
% document would also be appreciated).

All I can suggest is that you read your mail through an IMAP connection,
which apparently does allow you to store a 'D'elete flag across sessions.

You might, though it's somewhat messy, whip up a macro that sets the
X-Label: field to anything you wish; you could later go back and limit
your view to just those messages and then truly delete them.  You can
even display the X-Label field in your index, so you could just make it
'D' and have another status-like column to show you what is what.  If I
were to do that, though, I'd probably set the field to something like the
day of the month or even the julian day and then delete only the oldest
marked messages.


% 
% Take care,

HTH  HAND


% 
% Daniel
% 
% 
% PS.  Please cc me on replies as I don't subscribe.  Thanks so much.

Ah, but you should ;-)


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% Department of Physics
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Re: Question regarding clearsigning emails automatically

2000-12-15 Thread John A. Martin

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 "Re: Question regarding clearsigning emails automatically"
  Thu, 14 Dec 2000 18:24:10 +0100

WK On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, David Champion wrote:
 Having the signatures come up, and my mailer and OpenPGP client
 freeze while I wait to download a signature that might and
 might not be on the

WK And on a slow box (mine) it even freezes during signature
WK verification. It would be much better if Mutt has an option to
WK check signatures on demand and not every time you open that
WK message.

If you have had the experience of having nasty mail forged with your
name and header sender information you will value the option of
establishing the practice of _always_ signing your mail so that you
can be more credible when you disclaim any unsigned mail attributed to
you.

I have also come to the opinion that signing all mail and eccrypting
all private mail whose recipient will stand for it is not only wise
self interest but also a boon to the cause of encouraging widespread
acceptance and use of encryption.

jam

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Re: qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Morten Liebach

On 15, Dec, 2000 at 02:22:31PM +0100, Marco Ahrendt wrote:
 yes, procmail v3.15 2000/08/25 !
 
 with procmail v3.13 + mbox everything worked fine.

Hve you appended a '/' to your mailboxes?

HTH
  Morten

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Re: qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Marco Ahrendt

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:15:05PM +0100, Morten Liebach wrote:
 On 15, Dec, 2000 at 02:22:31PM +0100, Marco Ahrendt wrote:
  yes, procmail v3.15 2000/08/25 !
  
  with procmail v3.13 + mbox everything worked fine.
 
 Hve you appended a '/' to your mailboxes?

the filtering rule seems to be ok:

:0
* ^TO_.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/PC-Special/

if this rule shouldn´t be correct procmail has to write a error in the
logfile or? and this logfile isn´t created in any case :(

I believe the failure is qmail. but how does I have to start qmail if I
want to preline procmail? 

Marco

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Re: qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Marco Ahrendt

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:49:22PM +0100, Morten Liebach wrote:
 
 # This is ~/.qmail for Morten Liebach
 
 |preline /usr/local/bin/procmail
  
 It work fine, my /var/qmail/rc:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
 qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail
 
 This is what I think is the places where the mistake is most likely.
 If not, I can't really think of anything else right now.

I added the |preline command into .qmail and now the pre command works
fine. procmail gives an error but I dunno why. I think the procmail
recipe is wrong:

Unable to treat as directory "/PC-Special-Team"
procmail: Error while writing to "/PC-Special-Team"

how I have to copy to a Maildir ?

thx !
Marco


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help: high bit chars turned to '?'

2000-12-15 Thread Maciej Kalisiak

Can someone suggest a method of tracking down this problem?  I have a few
emails in my mailbox which contain iso8859-2 characters, but Mutt insists on
displaying them all as '?'.  Is this a configuration option I have misset
somewhere?

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Re: qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Morten Liebach

On 15, Dec, 2000 at 07:13:42PM +0100, Marco Ahrendt wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:49:22PM +0100, Morten Liebach wrote:
  
  # This is ~/.qmail for Morten Liebach
  
  |preline /usr/local/bin/procmail
   
  It work fine, my /var/qmail/rc:
  
  #!/bin/sh
  
  exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
  qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail
  
  This is what I think is the places where the mistake is most likely.
  If not, I can't really think of anything else right now.
 
 I added the |preline command into .qmail and now the pre command works
 fine. procmail gives an error but I dunno why. I think the procmail
 recipe is wrong:
 
 Unable to treat as directory "/PC-Special-Team"
 procmail: Error while writing to "/PC-Special-Team"

Is "PC-Special-Team" a maildir or is it mbox?

If mbox you'll have to convert it to maildir, there's some scripts to do
that, try mbox2maildir on freshmeat.

Remember the trailing '/' in your $HOME/.procmailrc. :-)

HTH
  Morten

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Re: help: high bit chars turned to '?'

2000-12-15 Thread Josh Huber

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:02:57PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
 Sorry I can't help, but I get this too on occasion and would love to
 fix it.  Last time I got it I asked my friend what he did with the
 email he sent and he said he used Word as the editor for Outlook.
 Double wammy, eh?

*ouch*

What I ended up doing was using a utf-8 xterm, and running mutt with
set charset=utf-8.

This shows all foreign characters, including Japanese ones, but every
once in a while I get email that shows up incorrectly.  Of course, now
that I'm talking about it, I can't find any messages with this
problem. (even though I _just_ looked at one).

ttyl,

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Re: keeping folder/mailbox status state upon exit

2000-12-15 Thread Joe Philipps

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:03:43PM -0500, Daniel Freedman wrote:
Hi,

Apologies upfront if this is well-known, but I searched mutt.org's FAQ
and manual, google's linux area , deja, etc. and came up completely
empty.

At least you tried, I guess, which is better than some people do.

I'd very much like to be able to set a message's status to 'deleted',
but: without synchronizing my mailbox/folder so as to actually expunge
the message, I'd like to be able to either quit mutt or just change
folders, and have these messages' status be kept.  I'm sure that
others have similarly wanted to use some method like this especially
when tracking a high-volume mailing list, where I wouldn't want to
prematurely expunge messages I've deleted, or else future replies on
the list wouldn't obviously be threaded under the ones I've read.  I
could imagine using the OLD versus NEW flags to accomplish something
similar, but I'd prefer to be unanbiguous in my mind and use the
DELETE flag instead.

You can always 'x' (with the default keybindings) in the index if
you'd like.  That won't write anything though.  The best I can tell
you is, Use the source, Luke!

PS.  Please cc me on replies as I don't subscribe.  Thanks so much.

I've seen that a lot lately, and I'm pretty sure is discouraged.

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Re: keeping folder/mailbox status state upon exit

2000-12-15 Thread Daniel Freedman


David (and others on list),

Hi, again.  Thanks for the advice so far.  (I took your suggestion and
joined the list.)

So, I understand from you that what I had hoped to do is not possible
in mutt.  Instead, I think I'm going to turn the question now on its
head, question _my_ assumptions in reading mailing list mail and ask
for further advice :).

I come from pine (which I never liked) and mh (which I was quite fond
of, though not as much as mutt, but in any case isn't available in my
present computing environment; neither for that matter do the
sysadmins support IMAP for the workaround you propose; and I've found
some relatively easy things like procmail are hard here since I'm on
an AFS cell).  Anyway...

I'd appreciate your (and/or other peoples') suggestions for
efficiently dealing with high-traffic mailing lists (100+ messages per
day each).  I use to do digests in pine with the persistent delete
flags I was hoping for here, but now I find that mutt's threading of
messages, combined with procmail's sorting them into individual
inboxes per mailing list, allows me to be probably 5-10 times more
efficient in handling mail than the previous digest way (and
_especially_ simplifies replying to such mail).

But, how do most people handle keeping track of which mail has been
read? flags? old/new?  Or what else can people suggest to further ease
things?

Thanks so very much for any and all replies.

Take care,

Daniel


On Fri, Dec 15, 2000, David T-G wrote:
 Daniel --
 
 ...and then Daniel Freedman said...
 % Hi,
 
 Hello!
 
 
 % 
 % Apologies upfront if this is well-known, but I searched mutt.org's FAQ
 % and manual, google's linux area , deja, etc. and came up completely
 % empty.
 % 
 % I'd very much like to be able to set a message's status to 'deleted',
 % but: without synchronizing my mailbox/folder so as to actually expunge
 ...
 % similar, but I'd prefer to be unanbiguous in my mind and use the
 % DELETE flag instead.
 
 While that makes some sense, and I can understand your thoughts about
 threading becoming messy, that is not available in mutt.  You can either
 quit or change and that will both sync your mailbox and mark items as old
 if you have mark_old set or you can just sync (bound by default to $) to
 write flag settings and purge deleted items, but there's no way to keep
 them around.
 
 
 % 
 % Thanks so much for the suggestions (just a pointer to the right
 % document would also be appreciated).
 
 All I can suggest is that you read your mail through an IMAP connection,
 which apparently does allow you to store a 'D'elete flag across sessions.
 
 You might, though it's somewhat messy, whip up a macro that sets the
 X-Label: field to anything you wish; you could later go back and limit
 your view to just those messages and then truly delete them.  You can
 even display the X-Label field in your index, so you could just make it
 'D' and have another status-like column to show you what is what.  If I
 were to do that, though, I'd probably set the field to something like the
 day of the month or even the julian day and then delete only the oldest
 marked messages.
 
 
 % 
 % Take care,
 
 HTH  HAND
 
 
 % 
 % Daniel
 % 
 % 
 % PS.  Please cc me on replies as I don't subscribe.  Thanks so much.
 
 Ah, but you should ;-)
 
 
 % 
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 % Daniel A. Freedman
 % Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics
 % Department of Physics
 % Cornell University
 
 
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Re: index_format: ANSI colors

2000-12-15 Thread Conor Daly

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:34:23PM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
Bjornar Ness thought:
 Hello fellow mutt users.
 I want to colorize my index a bit more. How do I do this?
 Tried with some ansi sequences.. did not work, why? I think
 it would be great to be able to do this.
Depends on the sort of colourising you mean.  I use the "color" command to
set up my index.  The following set colours:

* Unread mails addressed _directly_ to me Bright Yellow
* Unread mails from lists Bright Red
* Read mails from lists magenta
* Mails I've replied to Bright Blue
* All other mails are Yellow
* The highlight bar is bright Yellow on Blue

color index yellow default "~A"
color index magenta default "~l"
color index brightyellow default "~N"
color index brightred default "~N~l"
color index brightblue default "~Q"
color indicator brightyellow blue 

Is that what you mean?
 
 And one more thing.. mutt really needs a simple, yet powerful
 to/from/cc/?? procmailrc frontend. Nice for all of us I think.
 Could work allmost like the a(lias) command.
That would be pretty all right...

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Re: qmail, procmail and maildir

2000-12-15 Thread Marco Ahrendt

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 07:29:19PM +0100, Morten Liebach wrote:
  Unable to treat as directory "/PC-Special-Team"
  procmail: Error while writing to "/PC-Special-Team"
 
 Is "PC-Special-Team" a maildir or is it mbox?
 
 If mbox you'll have to convert it to maildir, there's some scripts to do
 that, try mbox2maildir on freshmeat.
 
 Remember the trailing '/' in your $HOME/.procmailrc. :-)

Its a Maildir. Now it works fine! Thx everyone for help!

Marco

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