Re: reconstituting mangled quotes

2001-07-17 Thread Biju Chacko

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 11:20:15AM -0700, Chris Fuchs wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 01:00:09PM -0500, David Champion wrote:
  Thanks, looks like I'll add vim to my mutt learning curve.
 
 Are you already using vim? No reason to start, just to get word wrap.
 par (under vi) handles this, and I'd be shocked -- shocked, I tell you
 -- if emacs does not.
 
 Shockingly enough I'm not using either, rather an editor developed
 in-house.

If you can easily run external programs from it, then look into 'par'.

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Re: reconstituting mangled quotes

2001-07-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Biju Chacko [mutt-users] 17/07/01 12:56 +0530: 
 If you can easily run external programs from it, then look into 'par'.
 
Or fmt - which, as part of the GNU textutils package you can reasonably expect
to find on most unix systems.

Par is much better, of course ...

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Re: vfolders

2001-07-17 Thread Tracy R Reed

On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 08:56:08AM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote:
 
  I've done some experimenting with Maildirs.  I've found it to be quite
  a bit *slower* than mbox, particularly on big folders.  This is on a
  Linux ext2 partition.  I had one Maildir that was an archive of a
 
 Yeah, but try deleting a mail from that 50MB mailbox. Boy, this will
 suck.

Not only that but create a reiserfs filesystem and put your Maildir on it.
It will absolutely FLY! reiserfs was designed for handling many small
files such as in a Maildir. I've been using reiserfs for a year now with
excellent results.

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print_command ignored?

2001-07-17 Thread Jim Crumley


I'm having problems with the print_command I have set in my
muttrc being ignored.  These problems are with version 1.2.5.
I have print_command set as:

set print_command = enscript -2Gr

I've also tried setting it equal to a2ps, or even /bin/false, but
it always prints to lpr (I've checked this by adding some debugging
statements to the code which print the PrintCmd).

I know that my muttrc is being read, because if I intentionally add
errors to it mutt chokes on them.  Also, I tried using -n to ignore
the sytem wide muttrc, but that had no effect.

Any hints on how to debug this? I started to look at the configuration 
file reading part of the code, but C is not my best language so
I am not very sure what to look at.


Thanks,
Jim Crumley

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Re: vfolders

2001-07-17 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:48:53AM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote:

 Not only that but create a reiserfs filesystem and put your Maildir on it.
 It will absolutely FLY! reiserfs was designed for handling many small
 files such as in a Maildir. I've been using reiserfs for a year now with
 excellent results.

We had several problems with ReiserFS, we even lost a machine due to
FS corruption. We rather use XFS... or ext3

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Re: print_command ignored?

2001-07-17 Thread Dave Pearson

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 05:00:12PM -0500, Jim Crumley wrote:

 Any hints on how to debug this? I started to look at the configuration
 file reading part of the code, but C is not my best language so I am not
 very sure what to look at.

What gets printed if you enter:

,
| :set ?print_command
`

into mutt?

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Re: print_command ignored?

2001-07-17 Thread Jim Crumley

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 11:39:41AM +0100, Dave Pearson wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 05:00:12PM -0500, Jim Crumley wrote:
 
  Any hints on how to debug this? I started to look at the configuration
  file reading part of the code, but C is not my best language so I am not
  very sure what to look at.
 
 What gets printed if you enter:
 
 ,
 | :set ?print_command
 `
 
 into mutt?

print_command=/usr/ucb/lpr

(I forgot to mention this under Sparc Solar 2.7).

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Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

hi all..
finally i have got mutt working with fetchmail and procmail. I am really happy. I have 
a few questions, and basically want to know if i am doing things the right way.
 
I hav a fetchmail daemon that gets mails from 3 accounts. procmail leaves mail from 1 
account in spool, and sends the remaining two to their respective folders. I have 
added these 2 folders to the mailboxes.
  
Now when i start mutt, i get only the spool. I have to do a c=foldrname to get to the 
folder. i expect this is normal. Is there some way in which i can get to know if any 
new messages are in the other folders without actually going into them? it so happens 
that i get most of the mail in the spool, and rerely check the other 2 folders since 
there is not very heavy traffic there.
   
also, is it possible to transfer a mail from 1 folder to another?

i have many other questions, but i think i can wait a while to get them sorted out.
 
thanks in advance...
ankit



Re: Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Biju Chacko

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:21:44PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
 Now when i start mutt, i get only the spool. I have to do a c=foldrname to get
 to the folder. i expect this is normal. Is there some way in which i can get
 to know if any new messages are in the other folders without actually going
 into them? it so happens that i get most of the mail in the spool, and rerely
 check the other 2 folders since there is not very heavy traffic there.

check out 'set mailboxes=' in the manual


 also, is it possible to transfer a mail from 1 folder to another?
 

the default key-binding for that is 's'.

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Re: Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

hi...
thanks for the quick reply. I could not find any set mailboxes= in the manual. 
Perhaps you are refering to the mailboxes command, which i have already given. it is 
something like,

mailboxes ! ankit mulder

whai i want to know is whether there is a way to find the number of unread messages in 
a folder when i am in another folder, or when i start mutt with the -y option, or if I 
do a c?

thanks again..
ankit

* Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [18:46 17/07/01]:
 On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:21:44PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
  Now when i start mutt, i get only the spool. I have to do a c=foldrname to get
  to the folder. i expect this is normal. Is there some way in which i can get
  to know if any new messages are in the other folders without actually going
  into them? it so happens that i get most of the mail in the spool, and rerely
  check the other 2 folders since there is not very heavy traffic there.
 
 check out 'set mailboxes=' in the manual
 
 
  also, is it possible to transfer a mail from 1 folder to another?
  
 
 the default key-binding for that is 's'.
 
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more questions

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

hi.
i already have a few more questions.
1) in the thread view, the indication that i get for a thread is like broken 
characters, unlike the smooth and better looking ones in the screenshots at the mutt 
website. I hope you understand what i mean... And this is after i give the set 
ascii_chars setting. without this setting, i get some stupid characters like ÃÄ. I 
hope that comes through when u get the mail.
2) again at the mutt.org site, in one of the screenshots, i saw menus on the top of 
the window reading messages, folders, pgp etc. how do i get those? do i need some sort 
of a patch or something?
3) in the folders view, i see -- Mutt: Mailboxes [0] in the status line. what does 
this 0 signify?

thanks in advance,
ankit




Re: more questions

2001-07-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Fox Mulder [mutt-users] 17/07/01 19:14 +0530: 
 1) in the thread view, the indication that i get for a thread is like broken
 characters, unlike the smooth and better looking ones in the screenshots at
 the mutt website. I hope you understand what i mean... And this is after i
 give the set ascii_chars setting. without this setting, i get some stupid

Check your terminal settings

 characters like ÃÄ. I hope that comes through when u get the mail.

This is what it's like.

 2) again at the mutt.org site, in one of the screenshots, i saw menus on the
 top of the window reading messages, folders, pgp etc. how do i get those? do
 i need some sort of a patch or something?

Install the Eterm shell and run mutt in that

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Re: more questions

2001-07-17 Thread Chris Gentle

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:14:40PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
 2) again at the mutt.org site, in one of the screenshots, i saw
 menus on the top of the window reading messages, folders, pgp etc.
 how do i get those? do i need some sort of a patch or something?

This is Eterm adding the menus.  They are not part of mutt.

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Re: reconstituting mangled quotes

2001-07-17 Thread David Champion

On 2001.07.17, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Biju Chacko [mutt-users] 17/07/01 12:56 +0530: 
  If you can easily run external programs from it, then look into 'par'.
  
 Or fmt - which, as part of the GNU textutils package you can reasonably expect
 to find on most unix systems.

I don't think that its being in textutils is what places it on most unix
systems. :P


 Par is much better, of course ...

And, specifically, par can reformat with respect to quotation prefixes,
while fmt cannot.

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Re: more questions

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

* Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19:39 17/07/01]:
 Fox Mulder [mutt-users] 17/07/01 19:14 +0530: 
  1) in the thread view, the indication that i get for a thread is like broken
  characters, unlike the smooth and better looking ones in the screenshots at
  the mutt website. I hope you understand what i mean... And this is after i
  give the set ascii_chars setting. without this setting, i get some stupid
 
 Check your terminal settings
 
  characters like ÃÄ. I hope that comes through when u get the mail.
 
 This is what it's like.


yea, that is what it looks like. i am on slackware 8.0, and have terminal type set to 
linux. i get the same even when the terminal type is xterm, only then i dont get 
colors.
also, it is the same in text mode, and xwindows...

ankit mohan



Re: FCC lines header?

2001-07-17 Thread Paul Cox

On Monday, Jul 16, 2001, Drew Raines wrote:

  Sure... don't bother with line counts.  Just change your index_format to
  show the size of the message instead.
 
 Interesting.  Although I like the linecount better, I think.  It gives me a
 better picture of the length of a message at first glance.  Perhaps that's
 just because I'm not used to it.  Or maybe I'm just skeptical of anything
 pine-esque.  Oh well.  Thanks for the suggestion.

That's pretty funny... that's how I feel about displaying the size
instead of the number of lines (gives a better picture of the message
length).  One of the things I love about Mutt... you can make it do
pretty much anything to suit your tastes. =)

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Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Justin R. Miller

Quick question:

At the top of my Mutt there are the standard indications, such as Msgs,
Del, New, Old, and Inc... what does Inc stand for?  I know it's the
number of folders with new messages, but what is it an abbreviation for?
Just curious.

-Justin
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Re: Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

hi..
i am trying to get something like this. how and where do you get these indicators?
ankit mohan

* Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20:23 17/07/01]:
 Quick question:
 
 At the top of my Mutt there are the standard indications, such as Msgs,
 Del, New, Old, and Inc... what does Inc stand for?  I know it's the
 number of folders with new messages, but what is it an abbreviation for?
 Just curious.
 
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Re: Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Justin R. Miller

Thus spake Fox Mulder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 i am trying to get something like this. how and where do you get these
 indicators?

I believe this is what accomplishes it:

set status_on_top=yes

You can also configure what this looks like with on of those ..._format
variables.

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Re: more questions

2001-07-17 Thread Andre Wyrwa

On Tue, 17. Jul 2001 um 08:00:18PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
 yea, that is what it looks like. i am on slackware 8.0, and have terminal type set 
to linux. i get the same even when the terminal type is xterm, only then i dont 
get colors.
 also, it is the same in text mode, and xwindows...

I'm running mutt 1.2.5 on SuSE and LFS and my threads are marked with
clean arrows.

André.



Re: Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Andre Wyrwa

On Tue, 17. Jul 2001 um 08:26:19PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
 hi..
 i am trying to get something like this. how and where do you get these indicators?
 ankit mohan

It's the status bar, normally at button of mutt, but you can switch it
to top with the canonical status_on_top .

André.



Re: Simple mutt question ... I think?

2001-07-17 Thread Mr. Wade

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001, Chris Fuchs wrote:
 on Wed,11 Jul 2001, Mr. Wade wrote:
  Anthony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I would just like to find out if its possible in mutt to setup so that
   if you use a signature file, the signature is added to the top of the
   email, rather than the bottom of the email below the persons original
   email when replying.
   
   I have my signature set in my .muttrc as :
   set signature=~/signature # file which contains my signature
  
  One solution would be to do something like this in your ~/.muttrc
  file:
  
  set attribution=-- \nAnthony.\[EMAIL PROTECTED]\n\nOn %d, %n wrote:
  macro index  r :unset signatureenterreply reply to a message
 *snip*
  
  Maybe something like this will effect what you're trying to
  accomplish.
 
 Unfortunately this doesn't seem to make allowance for prepending a
 randomly generated signature file using a script.  At least
 backtics only seem to work up to the first \n.  Suppose the
 attribution is this:
 
 set attribution=-- \n `script` \n\nOn %d, %n wrote:
 
 And the script generates Anthony\nGreen, then only
 
 --\n Anthony \n\nOn %d, %n wrote:
 
 shows up in the output... unless there is another way of doing
 this.

Yeah,... only the first line of output from the script in
backtics.

From the manual:

Note that since initialization files are line oriented,
only the first line of output from the Unix command will
be substituted.

Hrmm,... there's probably a way of getting the functionality you
desire, but I'm not sure how to go about it.  Anyway, since the
whole idea tends to encourage top-replying, which is pretty
snoopy, I find the whole idea to be somewhat pointless and even
counter-productive.

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Re: Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Michael Elkins

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:33:28AM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote:
 At the top of my Mutt there are the standard indications, such as Msgs,
 Del, New, Old, and Inc... what does Inc stand for?  I know it's the
 number of folders with new messages, but what is it an abbreviation for?

Incoming.  It even took me a second to remember.  :-)

me



Re: Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Dave Pearson

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:33:28AM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote:

 At the top of my Mutt there are the standard indications, such as Msgs,
 Del, New, Old, and Inc... what does Inc stand for? I know it's the number
 of folders with new messages, but what is it an abbreviation for? Just
 curious.

I seem to remember Incoming being mentioned.

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Re: Simple mutt question ... I think?

2001-07-17 Thread Chris Fuchs

on Tue,17 Jul 2001, Mr. Wade wrote:
 Yeah,... only the first line of output from the script in
 backtics.
 
 From the manual:
 
 Note that since initialization files are line oriented,
 only the first line of output from the Unix command will
 be substituted.
 
 Hrmm,... there's probably a way of getting the functionality you
 desire, but I'm not sure how to go about it.  Anyway, since the
 whole idea tends to encourage top-replying, which is pretty
 snoopy, I find the whole idea to be somewhat pointless and even
 counter-productive.
 

Yes, I quite agree - unfortunately I have to deal and comply
with this format: when in Rome, do as the Romans ... or get
eaten alive (sigh).  Perhaps some form of piping to a script which
ends up 'exec'ing the desired editor, but even that might
require poking around in the code.  Oh well.

Chris

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Re: Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Ken Weingold

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001, Michael Elkins wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:33:28AM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote:
  At the top of my Mutt there are the standard indications, such as Msgs,
  Del, New, Old, and Inc... what does Inc stand for?  I know it's the
  number of folders with new messages, but what is it an abbreviation for?
 
 Incoming.  It even took me a second to remember.  :-)

Oh, so THAT'S what it stands for!  In all the years I am using mutt, I
never knew. :)


-Ken



Re: Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Gary Johnson

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:00:01PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:

 thanks for the quick reply. I could not find any set mailboxes= in
 the manual. Perhaps you are refering to the mailboxes command, which
 i have already given. it is something like,
 
 mailboxes ! ankit mulder

Yes, I believe that's what he meant.

 whai i want to know is whether there is a way to find the number of
 unread messages in a folder when i am in another folder, or when i
 start mutt with the -y option, or if I do a c?

No.  The reason is that it is very time-consuming to obtain and keep
up-to-date that information for large mbox folders.  You should see an
N indicator by folders containing new mail, though.

Gary

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Re: Simple mutt question ... I think?

2001-07-17 Thread John Arundel

On 2001-07-17 at 09:28:55, Chris Fuchs warbled:
 Yes, I quite agree - unfortunately I have to deal and comply
 with this format

Why?

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mail sorting #2

2001-07-17 Thread Lukasz Zamel

Procmail is really cool. I've downloaded a faq and it's not fo hard to configure. But 
still I have a small problem. I'm getting 'Error writing to ...' even if I set a+rw to 
those mailboxes.
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Re: Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Andre Wyrwa

On Tue, 17. Jul 2001 um 07:00:01PM +0530, Fox Mulder wrote:
 whai i want to know is whether there is a way to find the number of unread messages 
in a folder when i am in another folder, or when i start mutt with the -y option, or 
if I do a c?

I had the same question, but you`ve given me the hint...

You can specify %N somewhere within  set folder_format=... .
That should do it, but it's the default anyway.
You will see a N where you put it, if a mailbox has new mail.

But I have another question.
I don't like having to press ? everytime I change a folder to see the
list. Is there a way to make this automated?

André.




Re: Simple mutt question ... I think?

2001-07-17 Thread Chris Fuchs

on Tue,17 Jul 2001, John Arundel wrote:
 On 2001-07-17 at 09:28:55, Chris Fuchs warbled:
  Yes, I quite agree - unfortunately I have to deal and comply
  with this format
 
 Why?

As a professional courtesy to some of the people I work and
deal with.

Chris

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Re: reconstituting mangled quotes

2001-07-17 Thread Contagious Specialist

Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Par is much better, of course ...

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/

Oh! The wasted reformatting keystrokes!
However have I survived this long without it?

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Re: Simple mutt question ... I think? [now miles OT]

2001-07-17 Thread John Arundel

On 2001-07-17 at 11:06:14, Chris Fuchs warbled:
 As a professional courtesy to some of the people I work and
 deal with.

Ah - yes, I realise that you will receive top-posted mail, and that you
don't have time to educate everyone you deal with, but why are you yourself
forced to originate this repellent format?

For a moment I had a horrible vision of a company which dictated top-posting
as a corporate email policy...

RUN!!!

:)
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Re: Simple mutt question ... I think? [now miles OT]

2001-07-17 Thread Ken Weingold

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001, John Arundel wrote:
 On 2001-07-17 at 11:06:14, Chris Fuchs warbled:
  As a professional courtesy to some of the people I work and
  deal with.
 
 Ah - yes, I realise that you will receive top-posted mail, and that you
 don't have time to educate everyone you deal with, but why are you yourself
 forced to originate this repellent format?
 
 For a moment I had a horrible vision of a company which dictated top-posting
 as a corporate email policy...
 
 RUN!!!

At places like this where people think that Outlook is what there is,
and top-posting is the norm, it makes it worse to do proper replies,
since they will take that and just top post.  Makes things even more
confusing.  I go through this all the time at work.  :-/


-Ken



folder-hook problem

2001-07-17 Thread Drew Raines


Forgive me if this has been asked before, but what's wrong with this line
in my muttrc:

  folder-hook outbox.*$ set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b/%d} %-20.20F (%4c) %s

It tells me that %Z is an unknown variable, and proceeds to only shows
message numbers in the index once I change to an outbox* folder (the %4C is
only working, I guess).

However, if I change to the folder and type

  :set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b/%d} %-20.20F (%4c) %s

manually, everything is displayed the way I want it to.

I have tried it with 1.2.5 and 1.3.19 with the same result.

What gives?

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Re: Simple mutt question ... I think? [now miles OT]

2001-07-17 Thread Chris Fuchs

on Tue,17 Jul 2001, John Arundel wrote:
 For a moment I had a horrible vision of a company which dictated top-posting
 as a corporate email policy...

May as well be around here.

 RUN!!!

Just as soon as the job market allows ;-)

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About emacs, about quoting text, about writing message.

2001-07-17 Thread Jens Paulus

Hi,

three questions:
1.) about emacs text editing,
2.) about mutt quoting text,
3.) about mutt composing a new message

1.) I'm using vim and don't know too much of emacs. One thing I find
very useful with vim is that if I want to wrap a very long quoted line
with width greater than 80 characters and the line begins with the
quotation character ' ', then I can hit gqap or gqip and I have the
long line turned to a paragraph that has each line beginning with the
quotation character ' ' and has width of 'textwidth' variable which is
usually set to 72 characters.

When I tried out emacs I didn't know how this works here and I was
missing this function. So I turned back to vim again. Do you know if
there is such a function in emacs? Is there any complete documentation
of emacs available on the web?

2.) Editing an email with vim/mutt, I sometimes wish to insert/quote
text from another email that I'm not currently replying to. I remember
that there was such a function when I used pine some years ago. Pine's
builtin editor pico (pine composer) read the contents from an other
email to the cursor position after hitting a special key combination and
entering the index number of the email in the current folder. Is there
also an easy way to do this with mutt?

3.) Suppose I'm in the index and my position indication arrow is marking
an email from somebody I want to write an email to. I don't want to hit
'r' because I don't want to _reply_ to this email. One solution would
be:

- hit '@'
- mark the displayed author's ( = sender's ) address
- hit 'm' to mail a new message
- paste the sender's address into the To:  field.

Is there a function in mutt that does exactly this after hitting one
key? Or how to define a macro to do this?

An other, worse solution would be: hitting 'a', taking the sender's
address into my address book, hitting 'm', entering the given nickname.
Later: editing my address book and deleting the entry again. But this
method is too much wasting time and awkward.

Kind regards,

-Jens





Re: reconstituting mangled quotes

2001-07-17 Thread Tony Godshall

  Par is much better, of course ...

 http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/

apt-get --simulate install par
apt-get install par




Re: folder-hook problem

2001-07-17 Thread Drew Raines

* Andre Wyrwa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Just a guess, but how about this one:
 
 folder-hook outbox.*$ 'set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b/%d} %-20.20F (%4c) %s'

I am a moron.  Yep, that works.  I've seen a hundred people do that before
on this list, too.  

Thanks, Andre.

-- 
Drew (banging head)



Segfault in Mutt 1.2.5i, while executing $ update

2001-07-17 Thread John P. Verel

I produced a segfault in Mutt 1.2.5i as follows.

I have a folder hook set for mbox to show only new messages.  I started
Mutt, went to mbox.  Deleted the one message which was marked as new.  I
then pressed $ to update mbox, thinking this would show the remaining
contents (which is over 300 messages).  Instead, I got a segfault.
Also, it turned the text on my gnome-terminal blue (sadness, I suppose)

John

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[OT] Re: vfolders

2001-07-17 Thread David

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 
 We had several problems with ReiserFS, we even lost a machine due to
 FS corruption. We rather use XFS... or ext3
 
Little off topic, but how well has ext3 been working for you? Are you
having problems with it?

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Re: more questions

2001-07-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Fox Mulder [mutt-users] 17/07/01 20:00 +0530: 
 yea, that is what it looks like. i am on slackware 8.0, and have terminal
 type set to linux. i get the same even when the terminal type is xterm,
 only then i dont get colors.
 also, it is the same in text mode, and xwindows...
 
Heck, I got a quite clean vertical bar with an arrow when I saw it.
Somethings fscked with your terminals - check your termcap settings (and try
some additional terminals).

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Re: reconstituting mangled quotes

2001-07-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Tony Godshall [mutt-users] 17/07/01 15:14 -0700: 
   Par is much better, of course ...
 
  http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/
 
 apt-get --simulate install par
 apt-get install par

cd /usr/ports/textproc/par
make install clean

HTH HAND
--suresh
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Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-17 Thread Louis LeBlanc

Hey all.  I am trying to get the vvv port for FreeBSD built, but it
keeps dying on some wchar code.  Any ideas what the hangup is there?

Thanks
Lou
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Re: Problems with vvv port on FreeBSD

2001-07-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Louis LeBlanc [mutt-users] 17/07/01 23:51 -0400: 
 Hey all.  I am trying to get the vvv port for FreeBSD built, but it
 keeps dying on some wchar code.  Any ideas what the hangup is there?
 
I personally had no problems.  However, there is a note which says vvv can't
coexist with Roland's compressed folders patch in that port.  Did you enable
both?

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Re: Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

* Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22:24 17/07/01]:
 No.  The reason is that it is very time-consuming to obtain and keep
 up-to-date that information for large mbox folders.  You should see an
 N indicator by folders containing new mail, though.

Hey, i dont get any such indicator. guess i will have to look it up in the manual...

ankit



Re: mail sorting #2

2001-07-17 Thread Christoph Maurer

Am Die, 17 Jul 2001, schrieb Lukasz Zamel:

 Procmail is really cool. I've downloaded a faq and it's not fo
 hard to configure. But still I have a small problem. I'm getting
 'Error writing to ...' even if I set a+rw to those mailboxes.

Did you set your MAILDIR Variable korrekt (normally $HOME/Mail) in
your procmailrc.
Perhaps you should use procmail in verbose mode (VERBOSE=yes) to
detect the error.

See this extraction from procmail's manpage about error messages:
Error while writing to x
Nonexistent subdirectory, no  write   
permission, pipe died or disk full.


Greetings
Christoph

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Re: Inc?

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

* Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [21:31 17/07/01]:
 I believe this is what accomplishes it:
 
   set status_on_top=yes
 
 You can also configure what this looks like with on of those ..._format
 variables.

hi..
i tried to do this, but i have the following problem. i put in a %b in front of Inc. 
But, it always shows a zero, irrespective if whether any mailbox has new mail or not.

ankit



Re: Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

* Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10:30 18/07/01]:
 * Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22:24 17/07/01]:
  No.  The reason is that it is very time-consuming to obtain and keep
  up-to-date that information for large mbox folders.  You should see an
  N indicator by folders containing new mail, though.
 
 Hey, i dont get any such indicator. guess i will have to look it up in the manual...
I tried to put in the %N to the folder_format. but, i still dont get the an N 
indicator next to folders containing new mail. Also, I get a zero in front of the 
Inc in the status bar.
apparently mutt is unable to determine whether a folder has new mail or not. I am 
attaching my .muttr file. there is no nuttrc in the /etc diretory..

thanks in advance..
  
ankit

 


#key bindings
bind pager up previous-line
bind pager down next-line
bind pager pageup previous-page
bind pager pagedown next-page

#macros
macro index ,s  c=softhome\n
macro index ,m c=mulder\n
macro index ,i c!\n


#identity
set realname='Ankit Mohan' #real name
set envelope_from=yes

#folder settings
set copy=yes
set record=~/Mail/sent-mail
set postponed=~/Mail/postponed
set move=no

mailboxes '!' +softhome +mulder

#various formats
set status_on_top 
set index_format=%4C %Z %[!%d%m%y] %-17.17F (%3l) %s
set pager_format=%Z [%C/%m] %n : %s
set status_format=-%r-Mutt: %f [Msgs:%m%?n? New:%n?%?d? Del:%d?%?F? Flag:%F?%?t? 
Tag:%t?%?b? Inc:%b? %l]---(%s)-%-(%P)---
set folder_format=%2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f

#editing header
set edit_headers=yes
set autoedit=yes
set askcc

#some misc things.
set quit=ask-yes
unset mark_old
set pager_context=1
set ascii_chars
set attribution=* %n %a [%(%H:%M %d/%m/%y)]:
set indent_string=' '

#file to be used for storing aliases
set alias_file='.mail_aliases' 
source ~/.mail_aliases

#source mail lists file
source ~/.mutt_lists

#header fields that are uninteresting
ignore * #ignore everything
unignore from date subject to cc mail-followup-to
unignore organization organisation x-mailer: x-newsreader: x-mailing-list:
unignore posted-to: x-url


#folder hooks
folder-hook . set sort=date-sent
folder-hook mulder set sort=threads
folder-hook '!' my_hdr From: Ankit Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
folder-hook mulder my_hdr From: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
folder-hook softhome my_hdr From: Ankit Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED]


#color
color hdrdefault red default
color quoted brightblue default
color signature red default
color indicator brightyellow red
color error brightred default
color status yellow blue
color tree magenta default  # the thread tree in the index menu
color tilde magenta default
color message brightcyan default
color markers brightcyan default
color attachment brightmagenta default
color search default green  # how to hilite search patterns in the pager
color header brightred default ^(From|Subject):
color body magenta default (ftp|http|https)://[^ ]+ # point out URLs
color body magenta default [-a-z_0-9.]+@[-a-z_0-9.]+# e-mail addresses
color underline brightgreen default
color index brightblue  black ~N
color index brightgreen black ~N ~x hagbard\.demon\.co\.uk
color index red black ~F
color index white   black ~T
color index brightwhite black ~D
# Various smilies and the like
color body brightgreen black [Gg]   # g
color body brightgreen black [Bb][Gg]   # bg
color body brightgreen black  [;:]-*[)(|]   # :-) etc...




Re: Newbie question

2001-07-17 Thread Fox Mulder

* Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11:42 18/07/01]:
 Fox Mulder [mutt-users] 18/07/01 11:30 +0530: 
   Hey, i dont get any such indicator. guess i will have to look it up in the
   manual...
  I tried to put in the %N to the folder_format. but, i still dont get the an
  N indicator next to folders containing new mail. Also, I get a zero in
  front of the Inc in the status bar.
  apparently mutt is unable to determine whether a folder has new mail or not.
  I am attaching my .muttr file. there is no nuttrc in the /etc diretory..
  
  Try mine - http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html


hi..
thanks for the file. i tried it, but still no help. I still dont get the N in the 
folder view, and dont get the Inc field in the status bar. also, i am still getting 
that problem with the arrows in threads.

do i try to compile mutt myself? currently i am using the one that came with slackware 
8.0..

thanks again for the prompt reply..
ankit