Re: Changing my From field

2001-10-04 Thread Ailbhe Leamy

On (03/10/01 23:45), René Clerc wrote:
 * Zane Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2001 20:25]:
 
 | send-hook (~t .*caltech.edu) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 | send-hook (~t !.*caltech.edu) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 Change (~t !.*caltech.edu) from the second rule to .
 (whithout quotes)
 
 This is the default rule.

But do it in this order: 

send-hook (~t .) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook (~t .*caltech.edu) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

If you reverse these, everything will match the default rule, with no
exceptions for caltech.edu.

Ailbhe

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Re: How to un-attach?

2001-10-04 Thread Lars Hecking

Justin R. Miller writes:
 Thus spake John P. Verel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  I sometimes accidentally attach the wrong file to a message.  I can't
  figure out how to to un-attach it.  Can anyone help on this?
 
 Try highlighting the attachment in the compose menu and hitting 'D'
 (however, not 'd', which changes the description of the attachment.)

 And it's even documented ;)  Press ? in the send menu.

D   detach-filedelete the current entry




Re: Changing my From field

2001-10-04 Thread Ailbhe Leamy

On (03/10/01 23:45), René Clerc wrote:
 * Zane Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2001 20:25]:
 
 | send-hook (~t .*caltech.edu) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 | send-hook (~t !.*caltech.edu) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 Change (~t !.*caltech.edu) from the second rule to .
 (whithout quotes)
 
 This is the default rule.

But do it in this order: 

send-hook (~t .) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook (~t .*caltech.edu) 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

If you reverse these, everything will match the default rule, with no
exceptions for caltech.edu.

Ailbhe

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Re: default: no such color

2001-10-04 Thread David T-G

Lukas --

...and then Lukas Ruf said...
% Hi there,

Hello!


% 
% for a couple of months I am using mutt, under Linux since it's been
...
% 
% So the question: where can I define the color default
% such that the configuration of my muttrc:
% color normal   default  default # normal text
% works.

I don't know much about color, but this sounds familiar.  Are you
compiled with ncurses or slang?  In the case of the latter, I think you
set an environment variable FOREGROUND or DEFAULTFG or some such (and the
same for background).  You might check the archives...


% 
% Thanks for any help!

HTH  HAND


% 
% Lukas
% -- 
% Lukas RufSwiss Federal Institute of Technology
% Office: ETZ-G61.2 Computer Engineering and
% Phone: +41/1/632 7312Networks Laboratory (TIK)
% Fax:   +41/1/632 1035  ETH Zentrum
% PGP 2.6: ID D20BA2ED;Gloriastr. 35
% Fingerprint 6323 B9BC 9C8E 6563  B477 BADD FEA6 E6B7CH-8092 Zurich


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Re: multiple fcc usage

2001-10-04 Thread David T-G

Andrew, et al --

...and then Andrew Brown said...
% what i'd like to do is have every outbound message saved to a folder
...
% save an additional copy to a folder called, eg, sent-today.  that way

As you've seen, there's no stock way to do it right now.

You might create a named pipe called sent or record, set your fcc to
that, and have that feed a script that is smart enough to not only stuff
a copy into sent-today but to also figure out where you'd really want the
fcc to go and drop one there as well.  All of the issues of file locking
and of keeping the script on the back of the pipe running are left up to
you :-)


...
% is there a better way?

It seems to me that what we really need is the capability of setting the
fcc to a program, just like $signature can be.  Now that I've come up
with the brilliant solution, who can write the patch? :-)


% 
% -- 
% |- CODE WARRIOR -|
% [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ah!  i see you have the internet
% [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Brown)that goes *ping*!
% [EMAIL PROTECTED]   * information is power -- share the wealth.

HTH  HAND


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Re: howto force pgp_create_traditional

2001-10-04 Thread David T-G

Viktor --

...and then Viktor Rosenfeld said...
% Hello,

Hello!


% 
% I use the pgp_outlook_compat patch along with pgp_create_traditional to
% communicate with Outlook user while still signing my mails.

Sounds good.


% 
% Unfortunately, pgp_create_traditional is only used with us-ascii mails,
% which kinda defeats its purpose in my case.  This is extremely annoying,
% because it basically means, that I cannot talk to non-English speaking
% Outlook users.

I don't really know a whole lot about this, but I thought that that was,
indeed, one of the big limitations of traditional signing.

Have any non-English-speaking LookOut! users sent you PGP-signed mail?
I'd be quite interested in seeing what happens to their charset along
the way.  Maybe Micro$oft has managed to break this in a completely new
way ;-)


% 
% Thanks,
% Viktor
% -- 
% Viktor Rosenfeld
% WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/

HTH  HAND and I can't wait to see an Outhouse example


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Re: howto force pgp_create_traditional

2001-10-04 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld

David T-G wrote:

 % Unfortunately, pgp_create_traditional is only used with us-ascii mails,
 % which kinda defeats its purpose in my case.  This is extremely annoying,
 % because it basically means, that I cannot talk to non-English speaking
 % Outlook users.
 
 I don't really know a whole lot about this, but I thought that that was,
 indeed, one of the big limitations of traditional signing.
 
 Have any non-English-speaking LookOut! users sent you PGP-signed mail?
 I'd be quite interested in seeing what happens to their charset along
 the way.  Maybe Micro$oft has managed to break this in a completely new
 way ;-)

Unfortunately, no, it seems that I'm the only user of PGP-signed mail in
my Freundeskreis.  (Don't know the English word and too lazy to look it
up.  Actually, a very cool German song is called like this.  Anyway ...)

In any case, I've found a solution that is acceptable to me, although
it's just a dirty hack.  I searched the archives again and came across a
post by Bruno Postle, where he suggests the following macro:

macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0x82C08753

This was nothing for me, because in this case I had to turn off
pgp_autosign, sign the message myself, send the message and then turn
pgp_autosign back on.  Too much work.

However, using send-hooks and overloading the send-message-key, I now
have the following:

send-hook . set pgp_autosign; macro compose y send-message
send-hook ~C [EMAIL PROTECTED] unset pgp_autosign; macro compose y 'Fgpg 
--armor --clearsign --local-user 0x23314340\nysend-message'# Christian Seewald

And it works, perfectly.

Cheers,
Viktor
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Re: difference between hdr_format and index_format

2001-10-04 Thread Benjamin Michotte

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 03:42:46PM, Shawn D. McPeek wrote:
 
   { hdr_format,   DT_SYN,  R_NONE, UL index_format, 0 },
 
 The DT_SYN meens hdr_format is the same as index_format.  Here are some
 other examples of DT_SYNs:
 
 edit_hdrs and edit_headers
 forw_decode and forward_decode
 forw_format and forward_format
 forw_quote and forward_quote
 indent_str and indent_string
 
 You get the point.
ok, thanks.
 
 Shawn
---end quoted text---

cu,
binny

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Re: Fetch many mailboxes

2001-10-04 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 09:28:59AM +0200, Brugier Pascal wrote:
 Helo
 
 I want to know if it's possible to fetch differents mail boxes
 (different user names and different passwords) on the same pop server
 at once fith the G command.
 
 And after i want to save the mails  in different folders.
 I will filter them in the headers.
 if i understand, i can do this with : mailboxes and mbox-hook
 But can i have the choice to this either by the To:, From: or Subject:
 headers .

Configure fetchmail to retrieve your email.  Then have procmail
deliver/filter it to the correct mailboxes.

To make fetchmail be reawaked and immediately fetch mail with the G
command add this to your .muttrc:

# Turn the check mail option into running fetchmail to wake it up.
# no point since I'm not using mutt's built in pop feature
macro   index   G   :unset wait_key\n|fetchmail\n:unset wait_key\n \
Wake up fetchmail to check the email again
#macro  browser G   :unset wait_key\n|fetchmail\n:unset wait_key\n \
#   Wake up fetchmail to check the email again
macro   pager   G   :unset wait_key\n|fetchmail\n:unset wait_key\n \
Wake up fetchmail to check the email again


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Q: how to not reply to myself in a group-reply?

2001-10-04 Thread David Petrou

Let's say person A mails me and cc:'s person B.  Now, I want to reply
to all of them, so I do a `g'roup-reply.  It seems that mutt's default
behavior is to compose a message to person A and cc:'d to me and
person B.  What's the rationale for this?

I would prefer that 'g' only send the message to person A and cc: it
to person B.  That is, I don't want to receive a copy of the mail that
I've sent.  Is there a way to configure mutt to do this?  I saw
`metoo', but that appears to only apply to regular `r'eplies, and it
is also off by default.

thanks,
david

p.s.: please be sure to write directly to me, as i'm not on the
mailing list.  thanks!



Re: Q: how to not reply to myself in a group-reply?

2001-10-04 Thread Nelson D. Guerrero
 msg.pgp


Re: Q: how to not reply to myself in a group-reply?

2001-10-04 Thread Will Yardley

David Petrou wrote:
 
 I would prefer that 'g' only send the message to person A and cc: it
 to person B.  That is, I don't want to receive a copy of the mail that
 I've sent.  Is there a way to configure mutt to do this?  I saw
 `metoo', but that appears to only apply to regular `r'eplies, and it
 is also off by default.

i am pretty sure that metoo works for group reply as well.  my guess is
that you don't have 'alternates' set correctly or set at all... what is
your 'alternates' line?

i have this in my .muttrc

set alternates = (will|william).*@.*(newdream|infinitejazz\.net|unixverse\.com)
unset metoo

(the last shouldn't be required since it's off by default but i have it
anyway).

w

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how to fix non-MIME encoded PGP messages in my Fcc?

2001-10-04 Thread Zane Crawford

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I'm using the pgp_create_traditional and pgp_outlook_compat settings to
generate old (yes, broken) PGP messages (without the PGP/MIME headers).  I
also have my procmail set up to insert these headers when it intercepts
something that looks like a PGP message, that doesn't already have the headers.

However, if I send an encrypted message to someone else, and savea copy to an
Fcc, it never goes through procmail, and thus never gets the header inserted,
and so, when I go to view it, I just get the raw text of the PGP message -
which is (hopefully!) completely indecipherable.

What's the cleanest way to fix this?  I could set up a macro that just runs
formail and inserts it when I ask it to, but I'd rather set something up that
automatically notices (like procmail does) and inserts the header, allowing
Mutt to do all its GPG fanciness transparently.

Any ideas?

- -- 
Zane A. Crawford  ,+  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Caltech Planetary Science   .   .+  https://ideotrope.org
BS, EAS, Caltech 1998 __o  War is Peace.
home : 626.585.1712  _`\,_  Freedom is Slavery. 
work : 626.395.6981 (*)/ (*) Ignorance is Strength.
cell : 626.437.2562  - Big Brother
PGP  : 0x55E0815F (request from http://pgp.mit.edu)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iD8DBQE7vJw2nNfqE1XggV8RAgQXAJ476kSD8jO6NNH7IGjMmTxLhZ0IGACghoh9
gbYRSFm+WQt9MYar+oX08ZA=
=//cZ
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weird reply question

2001-10-04 Thread Will Yardley

while i was trying to test something related to that last question, i
ran into something weird.  if i send a message to my main email from one
another machine in my office, i get the following behavior:

header from received message:

From: Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:14:27 -0700
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and the header when i hit 'r' to reply:

From: Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Subject: Re: test
Reply-To: 
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: New Dream Network

this doesn't happen if i comment out my 'alternates' line:
set alternates = (will|william).*@.*(newdream|infinitejazz\.net|unixverse\.com)

i have
unset metoo
set fast_reply

and reply is bound to:
:unset header\nreply

i tried unsetting all of these various ones and it doesn't make a
difference.  i'm using 1.3.22.1i

am i missing something obvious here?

w

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Re: Q: how to not reply to myself in a group-reply?

2001-10-04 Thread Benjamin Michotte

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 12:11:52PM, David Petrou wrote:
[clip]
set followup_to=no

 david
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Re: Q: how to not reply to myself in a group-reply?

2001-10-04 Thread David Petrou

 i am pretty sure that metoo works for group reply as well.  my guess is
 that you don't have 'alternates' set correctly or set at all... what is
 your 'alternates' line?

that was it!  thanks!

 w

david



Re: alias file perms error

2001-10-04 Thread Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri .

Yes, i finally got it sorted out. I had to give the editor value in
.bash_profile.

It works now.

regards,

Sharukh.

René Clerc muttered:
 * Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2001 16:34]:
 
 | I am using mutt 1.2.5i with a hodge podge .muttrc. I have pinched the
 | following from Roland Rosenfeld's keybindings :
 |  
 | macro   index   \ea !$EDITOR ~/.mutt_alias\n:source ~/.mutt_alias\n \
 | Edit aliases file and reload it
 |  
 | but using esca gives the following error
 
 I use the following (ctrl-a)
 
 macro index \Ca !\${EDITOR} ~/.mutt/aliases\n:source ~/.mutt/aliases\n \
 edit addressbook
 
 I thinkt the problem lies with the $; I think it needs to be
 escaped.
 
 In your situation, I think mutt tries to execute the .mutt_alias file,
 and that is, of cours, not possible.
 
 -- 
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 have the most live the longest.
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Re: Changing my From field

2001-10-04 Thread James

Thus spake Zane Crawford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 and in any case, neither of them take effect if I just compose a message
 out of the blue - is there some way to make it wait to change my From:
 header until *after* I've gotten back to the compose menu?

try 'unset autoedit'.  send-hooks are evaluated right before the editor is
run.  Unless you have To: already defined (which will not be the case in a
new email, but will be in a followup) the hook will fail since To: will be
null at that point.

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Re: How to un-attach?

2001-10-04 Thread John P. Verel

Arrrgh.  I hate it when that happens ;)  To make matters worse, I
actually did look at the ? at the send menue.  Yep.  Looked right at it
and never saw it.  Sigh.

Thanks for the reply, and sorry for the wasted bandwidth, folks.

John
On 10/04/01, 10:05:58AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:
 Justin R. Miller writes:
  Thus spake John P. Verel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  
   I sometimes accidentally attach the wrong file to a message.  I can't
   figure out how to to un-attach it.  Can anyone help on this?
  
  Try highlighting the attachment in the compose menu and hitting 'D'
  (however, not 'd', which changes the description of the attachment.)
 
  And it's even documented ;)  Press ? in the send menu.
 
 D   detach-filedelete the current entry

-- 
John P. Verel
Norwalk, Connecticut



Re: url_regexp ?

2001-10-04 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:33:22AM -0700, Taner Halicioglu wrote:
 Hmm... this doesn't seem to exist any more, and I want to alter the regexp
 for url detection...
 
 how can I do it now?
 
 I didn't find an obvious answer in the manual, but I didn't dig all that
 far...
 
 mutt 1.2.5, btw...

For say coloring them or for locating them like urlview does?

For coloring you do something like so:
  
#  match ftp addresses:
   color body cyan black   ftp://[^ ]*
#  match http addresses:
   color body brightgreen black   
[[:alnum:]][-+.#_[:alnum:]]*@[-+.[:alnum:]]*[[:alnum:]]
#  match URLs:
   color bodycyan default URL:[^ ]*
   color error   red  black   # global


or
#  Colorize
   color bodycyan   black   (http|ftp|news|telnet|finger)://[^ ]*

For urlview edit: $HOME/.urlview
Edit the REGEXP entry.  If you don't have one read man urlview.

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Re: howto force pgp_create_traditional

2001-10-04 Thread David T-G

Viktor --

...and then Viktor Rosenfeld said...
% David T-G wrote:
% 
%  % Unfortunately, pgp_create_traditional is only used with us-ascii mails,
%  % which kinda defeats its purpose in my case.  This is extremely annoying,
%  % because it basically means, that I cannot talk to non-English speaking
%  % Outlook users.
%  
%  I don't really know a whole lot about this, but I thought that that was,
%  indeed, one of the big limitations of traditional signing.
%  
%  Have any non-English-speaking LookOut! users sent you PGP-signed mail?
%  I'd be quite interested in seeing what happens to their charset along
%  the way.  Maybe Micro$oft has managed to break this in a completely new
%  way ;-)
% 
% Unfortunately, no, it seems that I'm the only user of PGP-signed mail in

Ah, well.



% my Freundeskreis.  (Don't know the English word and too lazy to look it
% up.  Actually, a very cool German song is called like this.  Anyway ...)

Maybe I'll look it up tomorrow :-)


% 
% In any case, I've found a solution that is acceptable to me, although
% it's just a dirty hack.  I searched the archives again and came across a
% post by Bruno Postle, where he suggests the following macro:
% 
%   macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0x82C08753

Right...


% 
% This was nothing for me, because in this case I had to turn off
% pgp_autosign, sign the message myself, send the message and then turn
% pgp_autosign back on.  Too much work.
% 
% However, using send-hooks and overloading the send-message-key, I now

Ta-daa! :-)


% have the following:
% 
%   send-hook . set pgp_autosign; macro compose y send-message
%   send-hook ~C [EMAIL PROTECTED] unset pgp_autosign; macro compose y 'Fgpg 
--armor --clearsign --local-user 0x23314340\nysend-message'# Christian Seewald
% 
% And it works, perfectly.

Great!

So, I wonder, how do your non-us-ascii emails look when they've been
clearsigned?


% 
% Cheers,
% Viktor
% -- 
% Viktor Rosenfeld
% WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/


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