Re: How to use smail v3.2 with mutt v1?
There is a problem. Mutt v1 will pass the mail to sendmail by default and it also passes some arguments which smail, linked to sendamil, does not understand. As a result, the mails are send to /ver/spool/smail/error rather than /ver/spool/smail/input. Frankly, I am not sure smail v3.2 is working properly in the first place. The smail binary that I have does not have documentation and when I issue smail on the prompt after getting online it says "smail [flags] address". >Neo Sze Wee [27/10/01 13:54 +]: >> thank you. >As long as Smail is up and running there shouldnt be any problem at all >Mutt doesn't care what is on localhost:25 as long as it exists. > -srs >-- _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: unable to post to aol
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:47:10PM -0500, MuttER wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:34:29PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:49:22AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my >inbox with: > > > pat [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: > > > > What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? > > > > I get the following error: > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain > > > > Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Action: failed > > > > Status: 5.0.0 > > > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: > > > > 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE > > > > I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). > > > > > > AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. > > > Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a > > > mutt problem. > > > > Didn't somebody else just post with the exact same problem...? > > > Yes and I have solved my own problem. This is a MUTT ?problem?. If > I set envelope_from ON, AOL accepts the post. Seems AOL does not like > localhost.localdomain, but will accept ANY valid domain-name, as I use > (above, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to limit spam, uce. > ---end quoted text--- addemdum to my own reply: I added a 'send-hook': send-hook aol.com 'set envelope_from=yes' and set the default to OFF. This may be a problem with other locations, but I haven't found any, yet! -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to aol
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:47:10PM -0500, MuttER wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:34:29PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:49:22AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my >inbox with: > > > pat [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: > > > > What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? > > > > I get the following error: > > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain > > > > Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) > > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Action: failed > > > > Status: 5.0.0 > > > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: > > > > 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE > > > > I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). > > > > > > AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. > > > Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a > > > mutt problem. > > > > Didn't somebody else just post with the exact same problem...? > > > Yes and I have solved my own problem. This is a MUTT ?problem?. If > I set envelope_from ON, AOL accepts the post. Seems AOL does not like > localhost.localdomain, but will accept ANY valid domain-name, as I use > (above, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to limit spam, uce. > ---end quoted text--- addemdum to my own reply: I added a 'send-hook': send-hook aol.com 'set envelope_from=yes' and set the default to OFF. This may be a problem with other locations, but I haven't found any, yet! -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to aol
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:34:29PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:49:22AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my >inbox with: > > pat [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: > > > What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? > > > I get the following error: > > > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain > > > Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Action: failed > > > Status: 5.0.0 > > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: > > > 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE > > > I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). > > > > AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. > > Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a > > mutt problem. > > Didn't somebody else just post with the exact same problem...? > > -- ---end quoted text--- Yes and I have solved my own problem. This is a MUTT ?problem?. If I set envelope_from ON, AOL accepts the post. Seems AOL does not like localhost.localdomain, but will accept ANY valid domain-name, as I use (above, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to limit spam, uce. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: key binding problem
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:11:05PM -0500, Stephen E. Hargrove (dis)graced my inbox with: > i've defined the following macro sequences: > > folder-hook . macro index d "~/mail/trashy" > folder-hook . macro pager d "~/mail/trashy" > folder-hook trash macro index d "" > folder-hook trash macro pager d "" > > the idea is that when i delete a message, it moves that message to the trash folder, >and when i delete it from the trash folder, it really deletes it. it works like a >charm, but everytime i hit the d key, i get the following message: > > key is not bound. press ? for help > > like i said, it works. it's just annoying to have that message flash everytime. am >i missing something? Take the "y" off the end of the first two macros. It's not bound and it's doing nothing but causing errors. I just tested it myself, it's true :) HTH & HAND! -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "I'm spending a year dead for tax reasons." -- Douglas Adams
Re: unable to post to aol
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:49:22AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my inbox with: > pat [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: > > What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? > > I get the following error: > > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain > > Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.0.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: > > 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE > > I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). > > AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. > Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a > mutt problem. Didn't somebody else just post with the exact same problem...? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "Television: A medium. So called because it's neither rare nor well done." -- Ernie Kovacs
unable to post to aol
What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? I get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to aol
pat [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: > What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? > I get the following error: > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain > Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) > Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: > 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE > I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a mutt problem. -srs
unable to post to aol
What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? I get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE I AM able to post to other locations. The only location that I know I cannot post to is AOL mandrake 8.0 postfix dialup -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Mutt and [q]uitting...
Is it just me and mutt is supposed to do this, or is there actually something I've done wrong to MAKE it do this? scenario: Launch mutt, it drops you into your spool directory. Hit [q], and depending on the setting of $quit (a quadoption), it asks you or doesn't ask you, and either exits, or doesn't. Now, launch mutt and specify '-y'. You get dropped into the mailbox display. Hit [q], and mutt immediately exits. "Waitaminit here, that isn't right, weren't you supposed to ask me before you exited?" If you but once enter a mailbox, $quit seems to start taking effect. Needless to say, I have "set quit=ask-yes" in ~/.muttrc... -- Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
key binding problem
i've defined the following macro sequences: folder-hook . macro index d "~/mail/trashy" folder-hook . macro pager d "~/mail/trashy" folder-hook trash macro index d "" folder-hook trash macro pager d "" the idea is that when i delete a message, it moves that message to the trash folder, and when i delete it from the trash folder, it really deletes it. it works like a charm, but everytime i hit the d key, i get the following message: key is not bound. press ? for help like i said, it works. it's just annoying to have that message flash everytime. am i missing something? -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___ | While your friend holds you affectionately| | by both your hands you are safe, for you can | | watch both of his. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The| | Devil's Dictionary" | ___ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- | Version: 3.1 | | GJ/IT d- s: a C+++>$ UL P+++ L+++ E--- W++| | N+@ o K- w O- M- V PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5@ X++ | | R tv+@ b+ DI D+ G++ e h r+++ y+++ | --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 05:04:59PM -0700, Collin Peters wrote: > > I use: > mailboxes `find ~/Mail/ ! -name .log ! -name trash ! -name sent-mail ! > -name junkmail -type f -true -printf "%p "` > > This is great for mailboxes which change by getting added or deleted. > All you need to do is put the mailboxes you never want to show up as '! > -name mailbox' Thanks for the tip. I wrote a script before reading your post, and it was erm... far more convoluted to say the least. I'll be borrowing yours now. ;)) [..] > I do the same. My point of confusion is that I thought that there was > no way to see the 'N' in the folder view, only the mailbox view. That's > why I only use the mailbox view with the -y switch and the following two > macroes which automatically put me back to that view with one key press. > > macro pager "i" "?" > macro index "i" "?" > > Is it possible to get the 'N' in the folder view? Sorry, I was confusing myself as I was typing. :) I meant mailbox view. Based on how Mutt determines new messages in a mailbox, detecting new messages in a folder (directory) seems a little ambitious! :) Regards :) -- Lee J. Moore It's all GNU to me
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 12:38:51AM +0100, Lee J . Moore wrote: > > After glancing again, it looks like a space might fix that bit of > script. Maybe it's copied wrong or something and should be more like > this: > > mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "$(basename $file) "; done` > > I like that idea actually because I have a list of mailboxes that > changes weekly. :) I use: mailboxes `find ~/Mail/ ! -name .log ! -name trash ! -name sent-mail ! -name junkmail -type f -true -printf "%p "` This is great for mailboxes which change by getting added or deleted. All you need to do is put the mailboxes you never want to show up as '! -name mailbox' > > I still feel like I'm not understanding a bit of this thread though. I > always start up mutt with the -y switch so I *can* see which folders > contain new mail. Although of course, once those folders have been > entered, that N (for new messages) will not be there anymore. I do the same. My point of confusion is that I thought that there was no way to see the 'N' in the folder view, only the mailbox view. That's why I only use the mailbox view with the -y switch and the following two macroes which automatically put me back to that view with one key press. macro pager "i" "?" macro index "i" "?" Is it possible to get the 'N' in the folder view? Collin
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 12:38:51AM +0100, Lee J . Moore (dis)graced my inbox with: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 05:08:54PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:58:18PM +0100, Lee J . Moore (dis)graced my inbox with: > > > > > > ? I wonder whether this is why Mutt is getting confused. :) Although > > > the script is there doubtless to serve as a timesaver if and when you add > > > new mailboxes, try inserting the filenames manually until you fix it. > > > That way, you *will* be notified of new mail. :) > > > > That's true, I thought his script looks rather fishy, but even if he > > fixed it he'd still have problems with mutt telling him where the new > > mail is :) > > After glancing again, it looks like a space might fix that bit of > script. Maybe it's copied wrong or something and should be more like > this: > > mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "$(basename $file) "; done` mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "=$(basename $file) "; done` That would probably be even better, because then you're actually looking for the mail files in the designated mail directories instead of the active directory :) (note I added = to the beginning of the string) > I like that idea actually because I have a list of mailboxes that > changes weekly. :) Well, my procmail script doesn't change much, so all incoming mail is always to the same few folders. But this script really wouldn't work very well with the mbox hook idea because then you'd have mutt telling you have new mail in your old mail folders every time you leave one of your actual mail folders... which is rather silly :) > I still feel like I'm not understanding a bit of this thread though. I > always start up mutt with the -y switch so I *can* see which folders > contain new mail. Although of course, once those folders have been > entered, that N (for new messages) will not be there anymore. Yes, that is the exact trouble I have with mutt. The N disappears when I leave a folder that still contains unread mail! So, I set up mbox hooks. That way a mail folder of size 0 contains no new mail, whereas a mail folder with a nonzero size contains new mail. It works for me :) > Using the last file access time as a way to determine new messages seems > odd for such a versatile MUA like mutt because all sorts of things can > mess with the access time (Nautilus, etc.). That's true. Time for a patch, maybe? :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "I'm always amazed to hear of air crash victims so badly mutilated that they have to be identified by their dental records. What I can't understand is, if they don't know who you are, how do they know who your dentist is?" -- Paul Merton
Re: list wierdness and muttrc builder
On 27, Oct, 2001 at 12:41:13PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > Other pains are when people misconfigure procmail recipes > > and then their mail starts bouncing too. > > Procmail can make mail bounce? I thought it would just send mail to the > bit bucket if it was misconfigured... It only does this if it's invoked by the MTA, if you pipe mail to it from fetchmail it'll try hard not to waste mail, but if it has to ... well, /dev/null. > > Unfortunately when list traffic is high, this causes a hugh > > burden on the list-admin(s) who has a real job not just looking > > after the list ;) And to avoid that you SHOULD make fetchmail deliver mail to procmail, not reinject via SMTP. And of course make a spotless ~/.procmail! :-) Have a nice day Morten -- Morten Liebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD796A4EB https://pc89225.stofanet.dk/ || http://pc89225.stofanet.dk/
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 05:08:54PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:58:18PM +0100, Lee J . Moore (dis)graced my inbox with: > > > > ? I wonder whether this is why Mutt is getting confused. :) Although > > the script is there doubtless to serve as a timesaver if and when you add > > new mailboxes, try inserting the filenames manually until you fix it. > > That way, you *will* be notified of new mail. :) > > That's true, I thought his script looks rather fishy, but even if he > fixed it he'd still have problems with mutt telling him where the new > mail is :) After glancing again, it looks like a space might fix that bit of script. Maybe it's copied wrong or something and should be more like this: mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "$(basename $file) "; done` I like that idea actually because I have a list of mailboxes that changes weekly. :) I still feel like I'm not understanding a bit of this thread though. I always start up mutt with the -y switch so I *can* see which folders contain new mail. Although of course, once those folders have been entered, that N (for new messages) will not be there anymore. Using the last file access time as a way to determine new messages seems odd for such a versatile MUA like mutt because all sorts of things can mess with the access time (Nautilus, etc.). Regards :) -- Lee J. Moore It's all GNU to me
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 04:32:54PM -0500, shock wrote: > I'm having two problems. First, when I bring up a listing of mail folders, I'd like >to see some indication of which folders contain new mail. I have the following in my >.muttrc: > > set folder_format="%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f" > > The display follows the format exactly, but %N seems to have no effect. Is there >something else I need to be doing? > > Second, when composing new mail, shift-L produces a message stating that no email >lists were found. I have the following in my .muttrc: > > unlists * > lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] > lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > unsubscribe * > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > So, I must be missing something obvious. Any advice would be most welcome. > Can you set "textwidth" or wrapmargin" in your vim please, to something like 72. It is very off-putting to read unbroken text. -- Regards Cliff
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:58:18PM +0100, Lee J . Moore (dis)graced my inbox with: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 05:25:43PM -0500, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: > > i have: > > > > mailboxes ! > > mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "$(basename $file)"; done` > > > > and this is apparently insufficient. > > If you had three mailboxes, say mail1 mail2 and mail3, wouldn't that > piece of command line wizardry give the following output: > > mail1mail2mail3 > > Instead of > > mail1 > mail2 > mail3 > > ? I wonder whether this is why Mutt is getting confused. :) Although > the script is there doubtless to serve as a timesaver if and when you add > new mailboxes, try inserting the filenames manually until you fix it. > That way, you *will* be notified of new mail. :) That's true, I thought his script looks rather fishy, but even if he fixed it he'd still have problems with mutt telling him where the new mail is :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer." -- Paul Ehrlich
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 05:37:33PM -0500, Stephen E. Hargrove (dis)graced my inbox with: > what i'm seeing is this: > > -rwx-- stephen seh Oct 27 17:27 4096 ../ > -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 27 16:1450255 Bulk > drwxr-sr-x stephen seh Oct 23 18:02 4096 History/ > -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 26 10:27 666761 Lori > -rw--- stephen seh Oct 02 17:3468360 apache > > when Lori and apache have new mail. what i'd like to see is this: > > -rwx-- stephen seh Oct 27 17:27 4096 ../ > -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 27 16:1450255 Bulk > drwxr-sr-x stephen seh Oct 23 18:02 4096 History/ > -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 26 10:27 666761 N Lori > -rw--- stephen seh Oct 02 17:3468360 N apache > > when the mail folders Lori and apache have new mail. Well, I've never actually figured out how to make mutt do that the way I want it to (I can make mutt tell me when there's _new_ mail, but all new mail turns old when you leave that folder. I can't make mutt tell me when there's _unread_ mail, like you want to). But, like I said, a good solution is to set up mbox-hooks (read the manual for more information on them). With mbox hooks, you can move all your read mail into a designated folder. This means that if you saw this: -rwx-- stephen seh Oct 27 17:27 4096 ../ -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 27 16:140 Bulk -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 27 16:14 123456 Bulk-old drwxr-sr-x stephen seh Oct 23 18:02 4096 History/ -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 26 10:27 3451 Lori -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 26 10:27 666761 Lori-old -rw--- stephen seh Oct 02 17:340 apache -rw--- stephen seh Oct 02 17:3468360 apache-old You would know there is no new mail in Bulk or apache (because their sizes are 0), and you would know there is new mail in Lori (because it's size is not 0). HTH & HAND :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "If it weren't for electricity, we'd all be watching television by candlelight." -- George Gobal
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 05:25:43PM -0500, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: > i have: > > mailboxes ! > mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "$(basename $file)"; done` > > and this is apparently insufficient. If you had three mailboxes, say mail1 mail2 and mail3, wouldn't that piece of command line wizardry give the following output: mail1mail2mail3 Instead of mail1 mail2 mail3 ? I wonder whether this is why Mutt is getting confused. :) Although the script is there doubtless to serve as a timesaver if and when you add new mailboxes, try inserting the filenames manually until you fix it. That way, you *will* be notified of new mail. :) Best regards :) -- Lee J. Moore It's all GNU to me
Re: New Mail / Lists
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) babbled: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 04:32:54PM -0500, shock (dis)graced my inbox with: > > I'm having two problems. First, when I bring up a listing of mail folders, I'd >like to see some indication of > > which folders contain new mail. I have the following in my .muttrc: > > > > set folder_format="%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f" > > > > The display follows the format exactly, but %N seems to have no effect. Is there >something else I need to be doing? > > Mutt does not agree with you on what new mail is ;) obviously. ;) what i'm seeing is this: -rwx-- stephen seh Oct 27 17:27 4096 ../ -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 27 16:1450255 Bulk drwxr-sr-x stephen seh Oct 23 18:02 4096 History/ -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 26 10:27 666761 Lori -rw--- stephen seh Oct 02 17:3468360 apache when Lori and apache have new mail. what i'd like to see is this: -rwx-- stephen seh Oct 27 17:27 4096 ../ -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 27 16:1450255 Bulk drwxr-sr-x stephen seh Oct 23 18:02 4096 History/ -rw-r--r-- stephen seh Oct 26 10:27 666761 N Lori -rw--- stephen seh Oct 02 17:3468360 N apache when the mail folders Lori and apache have new mail. -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___ | I once witnessed a long-winded, month-long| | flamewar over the use of mice vs. | | trackballs... It was very silly. -- Matt | | Welsh | ___ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- | Version: 3.1 | | GJ/IT d- s: a C+++>$ UL P+++ L+++ E--- W++| | N+@ o K- w O- M- V PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5@ X++ | | R tv+@ b+ DI D+ G++ e h r+++ y+++ | --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: New Mail / Lists
* Will Yardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) babbled: > shock wrote: > [you should probably set your editor to wrap at ~72 chars] thanks. is this better? > > I'm having two problems. First, when I bring up a listing of mail > > folders, I'd like to see some indication of which folders contain new > > mail. I have the following in my .muttrc: > > set folder_format="%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f" > > do you have: > mailboxes ! > mailboxes foldername1 > mailboxes foldername2 i have: mailboxes ! mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "$(basename $file)"; done` and this is apparently insufficient. > > Second, when composing new mail, shift-L produces a message stating > > that no email lists were found. I have the following in my .muttrc: > > ?? you shouldn't be using 'shift-l' when composing new mail... just when > replying. hrm...well, when i'm viewing as list of messages in a folder and hit shift-L, i get that message. i probably need to play with it a litt more. -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___ | I once witnessed a long-winded, month-long| | flamewar over the use of mice vs. | | trackballs... It was very silly. -- Matt | | Welsh | ___ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- | Version: 3.1 | | GJ/IT d- s: a C+++>$ UL P+++ L+++ E--- W++| | N+@ o K- w O- M- V PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5@ X++ | | R tv+@ b+ DI D+ G++ e h r+++ y+++ | --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: New Mail / Lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 04:32:54PM -0500, shock (dis)graced my inbox with: > I'm having two problems. First, when I bring up a listing of mail folders, I'd like >to see some indication of which folders contain new mail. I have the following in my >.muttrc: > > set folder_format="%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f" > > The display follows the format exactly, but %N seems to have no effect. Is there >something else I need to be doing? Mutt does not agree with you on what new mail is ;) You are actually confusing "new" mail with "unread" mail. If you want mutt to tell you when you have "unread" mail, that is slightly more difficult. What I've done is set up mbox hooks to move all of my read mail into special "old" folders. This way, whenever I see a mail folder with a nonzero size, I know there is unread (aka "new") mail in it. > Second, when composing new mail, shift-L produces a message stating that no email >lists were found. I have the following in my .muttrc: > > unlists * > lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] > lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > unsubscribe * > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > So, I must be missing something obvious. Any advice would be most welcome. It's case sensitive. Make sure you are copying the addresses exactly (ie, mutt-users and MUTT-USERS is not the same thing). -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with." -- Marty Feldman
Test mail via mutt & Exim
Hi, excuse me for a test mail with Mutt and Exim As I don't where to send a echo -mail bye , from me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: list wierdness and muttrc builder
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 02:18:13PM +0100, Steve Kennedy (dis)graced my inbox with: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:10:21PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > > Ah, oops. I must have misunderstood :) > > Well, the gist I got from the subscription email that I got sent when I > > joined, it only takes one bounced message for the list to unsubscribe > > me. I guess if my mail server went down temporarily... Stupid ISP, now I > > have to phone and bitch :) > > It's a semi manual process, if mails start bouncing, then they > will get unsub'ed after a while. Ah, I thought it was automatic after one bounce. > The biggest pain is Hotmail, which on occassion will start > dropping lots of email, then go back to "normal" service. Lol. Strangely, I am not surprized. > Other pains are when people misconfigure procmail recipes > and then their mail starts bouncing too. Procmail can make mail bounce? I thought it would just send mail to the bit bucket if it was misconfigured... > Unfortunately when list traffic is high, this causes a hugh > burden on the list-admin(s) who has a real job not just looking > after the list ;) Hehe, too true :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I accidentally divided by zero, and my paper burst into flames.
Re: New Mail / Lists
shock wrote: [you should probably set your editor to wrap at ~72 chars] > I'm having two problems. First, when I bring up a listing of mail > folders, I'd like to see some indication of which folders contain new > mail. I have the following in my .muttrc: > set folder_format="%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f" do you have: mailboxes ! mailboxes foldername1 mailboxes foldername2 and so on in your .muttrc as well? > The display follows the format exactly, but %N seems to have no > effect. Is there something else I need to be doing? > Second, when composing new mail, shift-L produces a message stating > that no email lists were found. I have the following in my .muttrc: ?? you shouldn't be using 'shift-l' when composing new mail... just when replying. > unlists * > lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] > lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] mine is like this (i've never used the feature for known lists, although perhaps i should). # $Id: lists,v 1.11 2001/10/17 09:17:55 william Exp $ ## [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe mutt-users ## dynagroove subscribe dynagroove ## zsh subscribe zsh-users ## debian bsd subscribe debian-bsd ## bind users subscribe bind-users comp-protocols-dns-bind ## bind9 subscribe bind9- [...] HTH. w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
New Mail / Lists
I'm having two problems. First, when I bring up a listing of mail folders, I'd like to see some indication of which folders contain new mail. I have the following in my .muttrc: set folder_format="%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f" The display follows the format exactly, but %N seems to have no effect. Is there something else I need to be doing? Second, when composing new mail, shift-L produces a message stating that no email lists were found. I have the following in my .muttrc: unlists * lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe * subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I must be missing something obvious. Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks! -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___ | I once witnessed a long-winded, month-long| | flamewar over the use of mice vs. | | trackballs... It was very silly. -- Matt | | Welsh | ___ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- | Version: 3.1 | | GJ/IT d- s: a C+++>$ UL P+++ L+++ E--- W++| | N+@ o K- w O- M- V PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5@ X++ | | R tv+@ b+ DI D+ G++ e h r+++ y+++ | --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: .muttrc screwed
blah. nevermind. i figured it out. * shock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) babbled: > well, i've finally managed to screw up my .muttrc. i've only been using mutt for a >day or so now, so please bear with me. -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___
Re: Say what ?
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 04:06:00PM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:41:31PM -0400, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > > I don't really care for IMAP, but I'm forced to use it at work because we > have an Exchange server. Switching between IMAP mailboxes is a rather > painful experience IMO, which I why I wrote isync so I could continue using > Mutt. Since you brought it up, I have the same problem where I work and IMAP has proven to be a lifesaver. I have one question, though. The biggest plus is that meeting requests don't get destroyed like they would if you pull the info down using pop3. Is there a way, using mutt, to respond to meeting requests? -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Forward your email to your WAP phone at www.mail-x-change.com
.muttrc screwed
well, i've finally managed to screw up my .muttrc. i've only been using mutt for a day or so now, so please bear with me. i had it set up so that i could hit the left-arrow key to take me to my list of mail folders. following is the applicable section: bind pagerprevious-line bind pager next-line bind pager exit bind pager view-attachments bind attach exit bind attachview-attach bind index display-message #macro index "c?" bind browser select-entry bind browserexit but it doesn't work. when i fire up mutt, it gives me a blank screen, and the only way i can get to my list of mail directories is c?. i'm loading mailboxes thusly: mailboxes `for file in ~/mail/*; do echo -n "/$(basename $file) "; done` hitting the left arrow key just isn't working. can anyone give me some insight into what i'm doing wrong? -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___
Re: Problem with subscribe lists ?
On Sam, Okt 27, 2001 at 06:14:48 +0200, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > Hello, hi, > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I would have though "xfree86.org" should catch this as a list but it > does not. try subscribe newbie or subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] in your config file.
Problem with subscribe lists ?
Hello, I use the "subscribe" command to handle mailing lists, and it all works tickety-boo except for one list I am on that Mutt refuses to mark as a list "L". I have tried various combinations of the list address but it does not work. Here is a typical header: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:49:19 +0200 From: Simon Simple<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Newbie]video modes and resolutions Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Help for newcomers to XFree86 Status: RO Content-Length: 727 Lines: 28 I would have though "xfree86.org" should catch this as a list but it does not. Clues ? -- Regards Cliff
Re: Say what ?
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 04:06:00PM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:41:31PM -0400, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > > I believe it's supposed to be a very small, not very configurable IMAP > > client. > > Pup was not intended to be a Mutt-replacement, and I have no itention of > starting over again. :-) > > me FYI, In case anyone cares about the name conflict, PUP is also a really cool "Printer Utility Program" that is invaluable for those of us who have a Lexmark Optra color 40 printer. It performs most of the functions that the Lexmark setup program for Windoze gives us without the downside of having to use Windoze instead of Linux. (BTW it will also service a couple of other printers). -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever." --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) --
Sending mail to AOL [Was: Re: mutt-users-digest V1 #820]
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001, MuttER wrote: > yeeesss, BUT I AM able to post to other addresses correctly as I am > now setup. I ONLY (iirc) have a problem with AOL, which is known to to > rather odd things :^). I am sorry, I missed the fact that you cannot send your mails to AOL only. Then, there is only one solution for your problem -- tell your friends, that there are many better ways how to spend their lifetime, than to fight with AOL. Sorry, but I cannot help you (them?). Have a nice day Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 ...every Man has a Property in his own Person. This no Body has any Right to but himself. The Labour of his Body, and the Work of his Hands, we may say, are properly his. The great and chief end therefore, of Mens uniting into Commonwealths, and putting themselves under Government, is the Preservation of their Property. -- John Locke, "A Treatise Concerning Civil Government"
Re: subscribe and lists
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 01:29:08PM +0100, Lee J . Moore wrote: [..] > Weird that it would work with some but not all. Are you pressing > Shift+L to reply to a list? Hmmm, actually not weird at all. If the mailing list address is in the To: header, it's going to be the reply address whether you use 'L' or 'r' to reply, if it's in the CC header, then only if you *incorrectly* use 'r'. Increasing the chances that you're not using the list-reply feature. As I said, try Shift+L (the correct way of replying to a 'known' mailing list). Use 'r' when replying to private emails. Best regards :) -- Lee J. Moore It's all GNU to me
Re: 2 Q's (my wishlist)
David Champion said: > Ah, mutt -- making the world smaller again. I wondered if you were on this list > I'd recommend setting the MTA to pass mail from root literally, and > setting each machine's root GECOS in /etc/passwd to "kimbark root", > etc., but anyway Yeah. There are other times when it's useful, though, like when the machine isn't under my control, or I'm just being nosy. ;) > The first thing to come to mind is a procmail recipe to find the > hostname component of the m-id and store it in the X-Label: header. > X-Label is completely meaningless; it's only there for mutt to be able > to display arbitrary header information stored by procmail. :) Use %y > (or %?y?%y?, etc) to show it in the index_format. This may do it. I didn't realize you could pull out arbitrary header info. Guess it's back to the manual for me! I don't like the idea of munging pre-existing headers if I can help it. And I guess shell code in the muttrc gets run at start time, so I can't do funky things with that. > I do this, but instead of having two folders, =foo is a symlink to > =Archive/foo-`date +%Y%m` or somesuch. That makes the same folder > information occupy both namespaces, and I remake the symlinks each > month. It also actually *simplifies* the procmailrc, at the cost of > requiring a monthly rotation script. I guess it comes down to mail reading styles. I use my inbox as a sort of todo list, containing mail I haven't dealt with yet. So I don't want to move it out as soon as it's read (because I won't have dealt with it already), but I also don't want to have to sort through a month of mail to see the important stuff. Though I could possibly do the reverse: copy stuff I care about and leave stuff I don't. The $move stuff is almost what I want to do, except that I want to make it explicit. I don't want mutt to move the message untill I tell mutt that it's ready to be moved. The quit macro that Daniel suggested is the other option, of course. I'll have to try some things and see how they work. I'll let you know. -- Jeremy Hankins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP fingerprint: 748F 4D16 538E 75D6 8333 9E10 D212 B5ED 37D0 0A03 PGP signature
Re: list wierdness and muttrc builder
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:10:21PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > Ah, oops. I must have misunderstood :) > Well, the gist I got from the subscription email that I got sent when I > joined, it only takes one bounced message for the list to unsubscribe > me. I guess if my mail server went down temporarily... Stupid ISP, now I > have to phone and bitch :) It's a semi manual process, if mails start bouncing, then they will get unsub'ed after a while. Unfortunately it's not easy to tell always whether it's a transitory failure, or something more permanent. The biggest pain is Hotmail, which on occassion will start dropping lots of email, then go back to "normal" service. Other pains are when people misconfigure procmail recipes and then their mail starts bouncing too. Unfortunately when list traffic is high, this causes a hugh burden on the list-admin(s) who has a real job not just looking after the list ;) Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: key binding question
Dave -- ...and then Dave Price said... % just a quick question... % % i have pgp encryption on by default .. works fine, but i often find myself running: p (pgp-menu) f (forget it) y (send) whwn i write to friends to whom pgp means nothing ... how can i bind a key ( Y ) to this sequence of commands? Oh, yeah -- if you have edit_headers turned on you could also just put PGP: Clear in your headers, let mutt puke on it when you exit the editor, and send as usual. And then there are send-hooks to turn on signing by default but turn it off for certain friends. % % tia and aloha, HTH^^2 & HAND % dave :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Re: key binding question
Dave -- ...and then Dave Price said... % just a quick question... Just a quick answer :-) % % i have pgp encryption on by default .. works fine, but i often find myself running: p (pgp-menu) f (forget it) y (send) whwn i write to friends to whom pgp means nothing ... how can i bind a key ( Y ) to this sequence of commands? Check out the macro section of the manual. I imagine that something like macro compose Y f would do the trick, though that's untested. % % tia and aloha, HTH & HAND % dave :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Re: subscribe and lists
Michael Montagne muttered: > I'm familiar with the "subscribe" and "lists" commands to place the > address of the mailing list in the To: header when replying to a mailing > list but mine appear broken. For this list I have: > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > And whenever I reply. the senders name appears, not the list address. > What's the trick? Some lists I have work and some don't. I've included > my mailinglists file which I reference with source ~/.mutt/mailinglists. > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems ok. Sure you do a list-reply bound to 'L' by default? HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: subscribe and lists
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 11:32:08AM -0700, Michael Montagne wrote: > I'm familiar with the "subscribe" and "lists" commands to place the > address of the mailing list in the To: header when replying to a mailing > list but mine appear broken. For this list I have: > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > And whenever I reply. the senders name appears, not the list address. > What's the trick? Some lists I have work and some don't. [..] Weird that it would work with some but not all. Are you pressing Shift+L to reply to a list? Regards :) -- Lee J. Moore It's all GNU to me
just a test for outgoing-mail via mutt & exim
Hi mutt-users, I've installed mutt and exim for the first time and I don't know where to test them . So, excuse me if I disturb you with that . mutt-user newbie bye, mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
key binding question
just a quick question... i have pgp encryption on by default .. works fine, but i often find myself running: p (pgp-menu) f (forget it) y (send) whwn i write to friends to whom pgp means nothing ... how can i bind a key ( Y ) to this sequence of commands? tia and aloha, dave PGP signature
Re: Auto encrypt message to specific user
Roberto -- ...and then Roberto Antonio Ferreira de Almeida said... % Hi, % % I would like to know if it's possible to auto-encrypt a message when I Yes, it is. % send an e-mail to a specific person. Could someone help me with this? Oh -- you want the answer, too! ;-) Use a send-hook about like send-hook . unset pgp_autoencrypt # for everyone else send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] set pgp_autoencrypt # for this case See the manual for a full description of various hooks and how they work. % % Thanks in advance, HTH & HAND % % Roberto % % -- % % / o/ Roberto A. F. de Almeida % < /| [EMAIL PROTECTED] % | /\| % |/ % /_\ :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Auto encrypt message to specific user
Hi, I would like to know if it's possible to auto-encrypt a message when I send an e-mail to a specific person. Could someone help me with this? Thanks in advance, Roberto -- / o/ Roberto A. F. de Almeida < /| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /\| |/ /_\
Re: list wierdness and muttrc builder
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 11:04:36AM -0400, David T-G (dis)graced my inbox with: > % > For some reason I was unsubed from this list without warning. Anyone > % > know why that would be? > % > % Happened to me last weekend. David T-G mentioned that if the list is > % very active, sometimes it screws up and unsubs people without warning. > > No, no, no... I hypothesized that the list software counts a threshold > number of bounces before sending out a probe before unsubbing you, and > that in the time of lots of activity the count would go up quickly. I > *never* intended to say that it was the fault of the list software that > it got busy and then dropped people, but that some short glitch in the > 'net or in your delivery might not have time to be righted before the > count got high enough to trigger. Ah, oops. I must have misunderstood :) Well, the gist I got from the subscription email that I got sent when I joined, it only takes one bounced message for the list to unsubscribe me. I guess if my mail server went down temporarily... Stupid ISP, now I have to phone and bitch :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "What would I do if I had only six months left to live? I'd type faster." -- Isaac Asimov PGP signature
subscribe and lists
I'm familiar with the "subscribe" and "lists" commands to place the address of the mailing list in the To: header when replying to a mailing list but mine appear broken. For this list I have: subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] And whenever I reply. the senders name appears, not the list address. What's the trick? Some lists I have work and some don't. I've included my mailinglists file which I reference with source ~/.mutt/mailinglists. subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Montagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.boora.com
Listing http://mutt.mirror.pegasi.net
Dear Sir or Madam, Please can you advise who I should contact to ask permission to include http://mutt.mirror.pegasi.net in the Only-Yellow-Pages online directory. There is no charge, but we do need their permission. Thanking you in anticipation, Mary Bridges Asistant Content Editor http://www.only-yellow-pages.com
Re: How to use smail v3.2 with mutt v1?
Neo Sze Wee [27/10/01 13:54 +]: > thank you. As long as Smail is up and running there shouldnt be any problem at all. Mutt doesn't care what is on localhost:25 as long as it exists. -srs
How to use smail v3.2 with mutt v1?
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