mutt newbie : How do I go back to the previous screen
Hi, I installed the patch to mutt which allowed me to browse newsgroups. The option was mutt -g newsserver which gives me a list of newsgroups once I subscribe to a list of newsgroups, and select one of them for viewing, I cant return back to the list. The only option I have is to quit and reopen mutt but this process is very slow. Anybody has a patch for the same. Thanks -- Shankar
Re: mice in mutt
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Paul Ackersviller wrote: On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 10:03:08PM -0500, David T-G wrote: I'll accept that. I'd call it the GUI version of mutt :-) While I see that as a logical evolution, I don't see it happening; mutt runs happily in a GUI (as you point out) terminal and can be made to call GUI helper applications (like image and web programs), and with eterm (IIUC) can even be made mouse aware. All of the work is done, with no extra bloat in the mutt code :-) Please enlighten me about making mutt mouse-aware, I wasn't aware that's possible. Why would it require eterm, couldn't it be done in an xterm like with vim and lynx? eterm implements some of the xterm mouse stuff (same as rxvt and aterm). It's possible that konsole (KDE) does also, but they don't bother documenting what it does (I noticed for instance that konsole recognizes one of the escape sequences I added for XFree86 xterm). -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
PGP sign mail without MIME
Dear all, in muttrc, I easily can set a sendhook such that every email gets signed by PGP. But this always sets the MIME type accordingly. Is it possible to have a sendhook defintion that allows the PGP sign mail without MIME as I can specify it manually with ctrl-P in the send menu? Thanks for any reply. Lukas PS: In the FAQ, I could not find the answer. Therefore, I am asking here. -- Lukas RufSwiss Federal Institute of Technology Office: ETZ-G61.2 Computer Engineering and Phone: +41/1/632 7312Networks Laboratory (TIK) Fax: +41/1/632 1035 ETH Zentrum PGP 2.6: ID D20BA2ED;Gloriastr. 35 Fingerprint 6323 B9BC 9C8E 6563 B477 BADD FEA6 E6B7CH-8092 Zurich
Re: [mutt-users] Re: MUA statistics
Hi, * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 04:29]: On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 10:52:05PM +0100, Thorsten Haude (dis)graced my inbox with: You should try NEdit. Full GUI, full keyboard support, macro language, the works. I use NEdit on occaision. I don't like it because it's the only program i've found that doesn't support my mouse wheel. I does now. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: MUA statistics
Hi, * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 04:15]: On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 10:29:32AM +0100, Thorsten Haude (dis)graced my inbox with: You'd be surprised. I'm just trying to write a sigdaemon with Perl. It should work from a config file and should also feed more than one FIFO (I use some random header lines). I still struggle with the daemonizing though. In other words, I don't see the advantage to daemonizing it. The advantage is that it's fun to do it that way. Yes, I'm a geek. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: PGP sign mail without MIME
Hi, * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 13:23]: in muttrc, I easily can set a sendhook such that every email gets signed by PGP. But this always sets the MIME type accordingly. - - - 6.3.101. pgp_autosign Type: boolean Default: no Setting this variable will cause Mutt to always attempt to PGP/MIME sign outgoing messages. This can be overridden by use of the pgp- menu, when signing is not required or encryption is requested as well. - - - Is it possible to have a sendhook defintion that allows the PGP sign mail without MIME as I can specify it manually with ctrl-P in the send menu? - - - 6.3.116. pgp_create_traditional Type: quadoption Default: no This option controls whether Mutt generates old-style PGP encrypted or signed messages under certain circumstances. Note that PGP/MIME will be used automatically for messages which have a character set different from us-ascii, or which consist of more than a single MIME part. Also note that using the old-style PGP message format is strongly deprecated. - - - Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
threading, but collapsed at mutt's startup
what do i have to write into my .muttrc to collapse all threads in the index by default? (i use threads/last-date-received for sorting) -- thx in advance Stefan Antoni
Re: threading, but collapsed at mutt's startup
* Stefan Antoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: what do i have to write into my .muttrc to collapse all threads in the index by default? (i use threads/last-date-received for sorting) i think you want set collapse_unread -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___ | Familiarity breeds attempt. | ___ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- | Version: 3.1 | | GJ/IT d- s: a C+++$ UL P+++ L+++ E--- W++| | N+@ o K- w O- M- V PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5@ X++ | | R tv+@ b+ DI D+ G++ e h r+++ y+++ | --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: threading, but collapsed at mutt's startup
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:29:07AM -0600, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: * Stefan Antoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: what do i have to write into my .muttrc to collapse all threads in the index by default? (i use threads/last-date-received for sorting) i think you want set collapse_unread i already set that variable, but it doesn't collapse the threads all the time i use mutt. my mutt starts with all threads opened, i don't want that. this setting just alows to collapse threads were are messages in it which are marked with N (i set it to no, standard is yes). i want a configuration were mutt automatically does a alt+shift+V at startup, to collapse all threads. a thread should just decollapse after new mail was read (marked with N, that's why i set collapse_unread to no). do i simply overlook something? (btw: sorry for my bad english, ask if you don't understand this gibberish)
terminal damaging
Sometimes I receive letters which contain undisplayable characters which affect my terminal state. After displaying such a message on the screen the terminal refuses to delete anything from the screen and this yields in lots of garbage on the display, because new information which is being displayed is written on top of the old. I know that Pine is capable of preventing such a damage by default, it outputs all dangerous characters as circumflexes (^^). Is it possible to do something like that with mutt? P.S. I'm attaching such a message to the letter. Beware. :) Yours sincerely, Andrey Urazov -- Don't relax! It's only your tension that's holding you together. -- Friday, November 09, 2001, 15:48:29 +0600 - Andrey R. Urazov (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---BeginMessage--- Room №102 Abay st. Astana, 473000 Republic of Kazakhstan. ---End Message--- msg20317/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: threading, but collapsed at mutt's startup
* Stefan Antoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 09:29:07AM -0600, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: * Stefan Antoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: what do i have to write into my .muttrc to collapse all threads in the index by default? (i use threads/last-date-received for sorting) i think you want set collapse_unread i already set that variable, but it doesn't collapse the threads all the time i use mutt. hrm...how about folder-hook . push \eV or something along those lines? -- ) ,_),_) (-(__ |_ _ _ |/ ) | |(_)(_ |\ ( \_, ___ | http://www.exitwound.org : hard to find | ___ | Q: What do you call a half-dozen Indians | | with Asian flu? A: Six sick Sikhs (sic). | ___ -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- | Version: 3.1 | | GJ/IT d- s: a C+++$ UL P+++ L+++ E--- W++| | N+@ o K- w O- M- V PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+@ 5@ X++ | | R tv+@ b+ DI D+ G++ e h r+++ y+++ | --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: threading, but collapsed at mutt's startup
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:14:57AM -0600, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: hrm...how about folder-hook . push \eV it seems that this does it's job, thx!
Re: terminal damaging
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 15:55:51 +0600, Andrey R. Urazov wrote: Sometimes I receive letters which contain undisplayable characters which affect my terminal state. After displaying such a message on the screen the terminal refuses to delete anything from the screen and this yields in lots of garbage on the display, because new information which is being displayed is written on top of the old. I know that Pine is capable of preventing such a damage by default, it outputs all dangerous characters as circumflexes (^^). Is it possible to do something like that with mutt? It already does that (with ?). P.S. I'm attaching such a message to the letter. Beware. :) No problem here. Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:50:57 +0600 From: Andrey R. Urazov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room ???102 I get 3 question marks. Abay st. Astana, 473000 Republic of Kazakhstan. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
pgp signature
Hi guys, can you tell me how can i show the pgp signature on the pager like a text plain message ? thanks for your attention, Luca
Re: terminal damaging
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:55:51PM +0600, Andrey R. Urazov wrote: Sometimes I receive letters which contain undisplayable characters which affect my terminal state. After displaying such a message on the screen the terminal refuses to delete anything from the screen and this yields in lots of garbage on the display, because new information which is being displayed is written on top of the old. I know that Pine is capable of preventing such a damage by default, it outputs all dangerous characters as circumflexes (^^). Is it possible to do something like that with mutt? it's probably a case where your given locale doesn't match the terminal capabilities. For instance, in the attached message you have a 0x84, which if sent to xterm would tell it to scroll by one line. (using mutt 1.25i I have no problem viewing your attachment) P.S. I'm attaching such a message to the letter. Beware. :) Yours sincerely, Andrey Urazov -- Don't relax! It's only your tension that's holding you together. -- Friday, November 09, 2001, 15:48:29 +0600 - Andrey R. Urazov (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:50:57 +0600 From: Andrey R. Urazov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room BuR102 Abay st. Astana, 473000 Republic of Kazakhstan. -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: terminal damaging
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:55:51PM +0600, Andrey R. Urazov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I receive letters which contain undisplayable characters which affect my terminal state. After displaying such a message on the screen the terminal refuses to delete anything from the screen and this yields in lots of garbage on the display, because new information which is being displayed is written on top of the old. I know that Pine is capable of preventing such a damage by default, it outputs all dangerous characters as circumflexes (^^). Is it possible to do something like that with mutt? Other people have already responded to that, but another point is that if your screen does get messed up, control-L is a useful way to redraw it. -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: MUA statistics
Fri, 09 Nov 2001 10:28:48 +0530 Hi, On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Is this program something you wrote? I would love to run it on my stuff, since I am on a lot of car and music related lists. I am sure it would be VERY different from your results. Attached a little bash hack which works for me. Gives me results like so : $ ./mua.sh 1 557 = Mutt 2 50 = Outlook 3 5 = Web 4 5 = IncrediMail 5 10 = Eudora 6 20 = Mozilla 7 6 = KMail 8 8 = Internet 9 35 = Emacs 10 4 = Evolution 11 6 = MIME-tools 12 13 = Misc Others Hope this helps.C ya. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- mua.sh Description: Bourne shell script
Re: terminal damaging
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:01:11PM -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:55:51PM +0600, Andrey R. Urazov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I receive letters which contain undisplayable characters which affect my terminal state. After displaying such a message on the screen the terminal refuses to delete anything from the screen and this yields in lots of garbage on the display, because new information which is being displayed is written on top of the old. I know that Pine is capable of preventing such a damage by default, it outputs all dangerous characters as circumflexes (^^). Is it possible to do something like that with mutt? Other people have already responded to that, but another point is that Oh, guys, thanks a lot for all your replies. Maybe displaying of these characters depends on terminal settings. For example, nothing terrible happens if I execute mutt on my linux virtual console, those codes are just represented as some characters from the current font. But when running in xterm all the bad things mentioned happen. if your screen does get messed up, control-L is a useful way to redraw it. No, it's not that simple. Those characters affect the terminal clear screen function, I reckon, so C-L does nothing. Maybe you guys have some special compile time options? What `mutt -v' says in my installation follows: Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.14-5.0 [using ncurses 4.0] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail SHAREDIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell Maybe compiling with SLang would solve the problem? Yours sincerely, Andrey Urazov -- Predestination was doomed from the start. -- Saturday, November 10, 2001, 00:33:29 +0600 - Andrey R. Urazov (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) msg20325/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
anonymous CVS access
Is anonymous checkout of the mutt CVS allowed? If so, what is the procedure? I couldn't find a single reference to it in the list archives, and the directions given at the Sourceforge site don't work. Thanks much. -- Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. -- Mark Twain
Re: mice in mutt
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:26:20AM -0500, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: eterm implements some of the xterm mouse stuff (same as rxvt and aterm). It's possible that konsole (KDE) does also, but they don't bother documenting what it does (I noticed for instance that konsole recognizes one of the escape sequences I added for XFree86 xterm). There aren't any mouse operations that are documented for mutt though. Is there a patch floating around that makes mutt mouse-aware? -- Paul Ackersviller
Re: MUA statistics
Em Fri, 09 Nov 2001, Prahlad Vaidyanathan escreveu: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 10:28:48 +0530 Hi, On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: Is this program something you wrote? I would love to run it on my stuff, since I am on a lot of car and music related lists. I am sure it would be VERY different from your results. Attached a little bash hack which works for me. Gives me results like so : $ ./mua.sh 1 557 = Mutt 2 50 = Outlook 3 5 = Web 4 5 = IncrediMail 5 10 = Eudora 6 20 = Mozilla 7 6 = KMail 8 8 = Internet 9 35 = Emacs 10 4 = Evolution 11 6 = MIME-tools 12 13 = Misc Others Hope this helps.C ya. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- Well, don't forget that Pine doesn't use X-Mailer or User-Agent headers, instead it uses Message-ID header, encoding it as: Message-ID: Pine.OS.VERSION Processing Message-ID header to identify Pine users will make your stats more accurate. []'s - Cristiano -- === /^\__/\ /' , :Conhecimento nao e' crime ! ~o o / , \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( `- ..__ Estudante de Ciencia da Computacao - UFBA ' /' http://cristiano.dhs.org PGP public key available by WWW and on request. === /\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: terminal damaging
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 12:36:31AM +0600, Andrey R. Urazov wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:01:11PM -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 03:55:51PM +0600, Andrey R. Urazov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I receive letters which contain undisplayable characters which affect my terminal state. After displaying such a message on the screen the terminal refuses to delete anything from the screen and this yields in lots of garbage on the display, because new information which is being displayed is written on top of the old. I know that Pine is capable of preventing such a damage by default, it outputs all dangerous characters as circumflexes (^^). Is it possible to do something like that with mutt? Other people have already responded to that, but another point is that Oh, guys, thanks a lot for all your replies. Maybe displaying of these characters depends on terminal settings. For example, nothing terrible happens if I execute mutt on my linux virtual console, those codes are just represented as some characters from the current font. But when running in xterm all the bad things mentioned happen. xterm implements a vt220, which treats characters in the range 128-159 as control characters (known as c1 control characters). linux console used to do this, but it was dropped when the utf-8 support was added. You can run xterm in UTF-8 mode and it won't respond to c1 controls. Maybe compiling with SLang would solve the problem? no, actually compiling with slang tends to make this sort of problem worse. -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: color
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:20:53 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: color On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Roman Neuhauser wrote: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:54:42 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: color On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Roman Neuhauser wrote: what was $TERM before you set rxvt.termName ? just xterm. xterm is usually the same as xterm-r6 (no color). (but xterm-color isn't correct - would be nice if FreeBSD installed the correct termcap entries so this wasn't something I had to point out periodically). I don't say it's correct. I _don't_ know the correct value. I've seen this suggested on freebsd-questions@, and it works. But if you tell me the correct value, I'll be happy to change the setting. Usually (except of course the suggestions which are secondhand or worse) the suggestion is based on the fact that FreeBSD doesn't install a termcap entry for anything more appropriate. There is a termcap file distributed with rxvt and one with XFree86 xterm. I'd start with those (preferring rxvt and xterm-xfree86). FreeBSD uses a compiled database for termcap, iirc under /usr/share/misc. Edit (save the original of course) the termcap file, putting the new entries at the beginning. Recompile the termcap database (I don't recall the name of the command - something like make_capdb - there is a manpage for it). There is also a better termcap file here (but doesn't necessarily include a few of the specialized console types for FreeBSD): ftp://invisible-island.net/ncurses/termcap.src.gz Hi Thomas, thank you for your answer. I don't know if it means anything, but my termcap already contained a rxvt entry, with a comment that it's taken from the rxvt-2.6.3 sources, which is what I use. I rebuilt the database just to be sure, commented out the rxvt.termName line in my .Xdefaults file, and opened a new terminal window (rxvt): roman@roman ~ grep termName .Xdefaults ! rxvt.termName: xterm-color roman@roman ~ echo $TERM xterm Next, I put the two rxvt entries (rxvt-basic and rxvt) from termcap.src.gz in my /usr/share/misc/termcap, and got these two messages upon issuing cap_mkdb: cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: rxvt|rxvt terminal emulator (X Window System) cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: rxvt|rxvt terminal emulator (X Window System) Whassup? Besides, termcap.src.gz says 'rxvt is normally configured to look for xterm or xterm-color as $TERM. Since rxvt is not really compatible with xterm, it should be configured as rxvt (monochrome) and rxvt-color'. What does that mean for me? Thank you for your patience. Roman -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 12:26PM up 9 days, 23:09, 15 users, load averages: 0.71, 0.65, 0.57
Re: color
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 08:16:34PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: thank you for your answer. I don't know if it means anything, but my termcap already contained a rxvt entry, with a comment that it's taken from the rxvt-2.6.3 sources, which is what I use. I rebuilt the database just to be sure, commented out the rxvt.termName line in my .Xdefaults file, and opened a new terminal window (rxvt): roman@roman ~ grep termName .Xdefaults ! rxvt.termName: xterm-color roman@roman ~ echo $TERM xterm Next, I put the two rxvt entries (rxvt-basic and rxvt) from termcap.src.gz in my /usr/share/misc/termcap, and got these two messages upon issuing cap_mkdb: cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: rxvt|rxvt terminal emulator (X Window System) cap_mkdb: record not tc expanded: rxvt|rxvt terminal emulator (X Window System) Whassup? offhand (I'm working on Linux now, will try to remember to test this on FreeBSD) I think it's complaining that the name cited in the tc= clause doesn't exist, e.g., ecma+color: rxvt|rxvt terminal emulator (X Window System):\ :NC@:\ :me=\E[m\017:tc=rxvt-basic:tc=ecma+color: Also cap_mkdb may also complain that the termcap doesn't begin with a 2-character identifier. Canonical termcap entries begin that way; termcaps generated from infocmp don't do that. (I have a to-do item to add an infocmp option for this). Besides, termcap.src.gz says 'rxvt is normally configured to look for xterm or xterm-color as $TERM. Since rxvt is not really compatible with xterm, it should be configured as rxvt (monochrome) and rxvt-color'. What does that mean for me? What I do is edit the header-file in rxvt that's hardcoded to xterm and change that to rxvt when I compile it. (I don't recall that being configurable, and since it's easy to edit I haven't looked to see if there's a better way). Likewise, for the various other terminal emulators (I install those all to set $TERM to be what it should be, e.g., xterm-r5, xterm-r6, xterm-xfree86, kterm, aterm, Eterm, rxvt, since it's simpler to map those _to_ xterm on the remote side if needed than determine which flavor it really is. That reminds me of a bug that I observed in Mandrake 8.1 (you see, FreeBSD isn't the only one that can't setup terminfo properly): 011017 md81 installs xterm-debian as an alias for 'nxterm' and 'xterm-color', which looks like the 88b-version (so alternate screen stuff is a bit retarded). Actually, 'xterm' looks like the newer version, since it uses 1049. This termcap doesn't use the tc= clause: rxvt|rxvt terminal emulator (X Window System):\ :am:eo:km:mi:ms:xn:xo:\ :co#80:it#8:li#24:\ :AL=\E[%dL:DC=\E[%dP:DL=\E[%dM:DO=\E[%dB:IC=\E[%d@:\ :K1=\EOw:K2=\EOu:K3=\EOy:K4=\EOq:K5=\EOs:LE=\E[%dD:\ :RI=\E[%dC:UP=\E[%dA:ae=^O:al=\E[L:as=^N:bl=^G:cd=\E[J:\ :ce=\E[K:cl=\E[H\E[2J:cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:cr=^M:\ :cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:ct=\E[3g:dc=\E[P:dl=\E[M:do=^J:ei=\E[4l:\ :ho=\E[H:i1=\E[?47l\E=\E[?1l:ic=\E[@:im=\E[4h:\ :is=\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l:\ :k0=\E[21~:k1=\E[11~:k2=\E[12~:k3=\E[13~:k4=\E[14~:\ :k5=\E[15~:k6=\E[17~:k7=\E[18~:k8=\E[19~:k9=\E[20~:\ :kD=\E[3~:kI=\E[2~:kN=\E[6~:kP=\E[5~:kb=^H:kd=\E[B:ke=\E:\ :kh=\E[7~:kl=\E[D:kr=\E[C:ks=\E=:ku=\E[A:le=^H:mb=\E[5m:\ :md=\E[1m:me=\E[m\017:mr=\E[7m:nd=\E[C:rc=\E8:sc=\E7:\ :se=\E[27m:sf=^J:so=\E[7m:sr=\EM:st=\EH:ta=^I:\ :te=\E[2J\E[?47l\E8:ti=\E7\E[?47h:ue=\E[24m:up=\E[A:\ :us=\E[4m:vb=\E[?5h\E[?5l:ve=\E[?25h:vi=\E[?25l:\ :vs=\E[?25h: -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Urgent: mail read problem question
HI, I downloaded some mail from some pop account using kde/kmail. Then i transferred them to Macintosh ZIP disk using Macintosh Fetch in automatc/raw format. Now, i transferred back some of these to RH box and i can not read attached files such as tar.gz attachements,... Please tell me how I may be able to read these with their attachments using mutt. what are my chances?. Jim _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
conditional macro
I set the following macro via a folder-hook for my mailinglist folders: macro index S tag-pattern~d2w\nuntag-pattern~F\ntag-prefixsave-message\n Alte Mails nach _r It should move old messages to an archive-folder, an apropriate save-hook is set. It is working fine, if there is at least one message to move. The problem is if there is no message tag, mutt executes save-message for the currently selected message. How can I stop the macro, if there is no tagged message? Thanks Nicolas
Re: mice in mutt
Paul -- ...and then Paul Ackersviller said... % On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:26:20AM -0500, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: % % eterm implements some of the xterm mouse stuff (same as rxvt and aterm). ... % % There aren't any mouse operations that are documented for mutt though. % Is there a patch floating around that makes mutt mouse-aware? Nope; these folks are just configuring their mice and machines so that mouse clicks send ascii chars or escape sequences to the terminal, which will treat them as though they were typed -- ie, keyboard commands. % % -- % Paul Ackersviller :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20334/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MUA statistics
Thorsten, et al -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % Hi, Hello! % % * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 04:15]: % On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 10:29:32AM +0100, Thorsten Haude (dis)graced my inbox with: % You'd be surprised. I'm just trying to write a sigdaemon with Perl. It % should work from a config file and should also feed more than one FIFO ... % In other words, I don't see the advantage to daemonizing it. % The advantage is that it's fun to do it that way. Yes, I'm a geek. And that's reason enough! :-) :-) :-) % % Thorsten % -- % They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little % temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. % - Benjamin Franklin :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20335/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc and resend message
Nicolas -- ...and then Nicolas Rachinsky said... % On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 10:58:09PM -0500, David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Use Mikko Hanninen's patch-1.2.mha.resend-fcc.1 feature patch to tell % mutt to set the fcc according to your usual rules. % % Where can I get this patch? I don't know where Mikko might really keep it, but you can find it in my cocktail at http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/ as patch-1.2.mha.resend-fcc.1 in the list of files. Enjoy! % % Nicolas :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20336/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mice in mutt
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:10:11PM -0500, Paul Ackersviller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:26:20AM -0500, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: eterm implements some of the xterm mouse stuff (same as rxvt and aterm). It's possible that konsole (KDE) does also, but they don't bother documenting what it does (I noticed for instance that konsole recognizes one of the escape sequences I added for XFree86 xterm). There aren't any mouse operations that are documented for mutt though. Is there a patch floating around that makes mutt mouse-aware? Mutt used to be mouse-aware. That was a very very long time ago. I forget why ME took it out. It was never very useful anyway. -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: PGP sign mail without MIME
Suresh, et al - ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % Thorsten Haude mutt [09/11/01 14:49 +0100]: % * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 13:23]: % in muttrc, I easily can set a sendhook such that every email gets % signed by PGP. But this always sets the MIME type accordingly. %6.3.101. pgp_autosign %Type: boolean %Default: no [and a stripped-off definition of pgp_create_traditional -- naughty Suresh!] % % Still not parseable by (say) Outlook and Eudora. The best way to go is % % macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0xEDEDEFB9 Much better is Shane Wegener's pgp_outlook_compat patch so that you don't have to muck with macros. % % -srs :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20338/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Urgent: mail read problem question
Jim -- ...and then Jim M. said... % HI, Hello! % I downloaded some mail from some pop account using kde/kmail. Hokay. % Then i transferred them to Macintosh ZIP disk using Macintosh % Fetch in automatc/raw format. Now, i transferred back some of these That doesn't sound good at all ;-) % to RH box and i can not read attached files such as tar.gz attachements,... % Please tell me how I may be able to read these with their attachments using % mutt. what are my chances?. I'd say you should put them back on the Mac and find a safe way to transport them that probably doesn't include a disk, since Mac file formats are different from *NIX and DOS. At the very best you might encode the files in a format which both MacOS and Linux understand; is there a Linux version of UnStuffIt? % Jim :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20339/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: conditional macro
Nicolas -- ...and then Nicolas Rachinsky said... % I set the following macro via a folder-hook for my mailinglist ... % The problem is if there is no message tag, mutt executes % save-message for the currently selected message. % % How can I stop the macro, if there is no tagged message? At this point you can't. Check the archives; it's come up many times before. % % Thanks % Nicolas :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20340/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mice in mutt
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:14:42PM -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: Mutt used to be mouse-aware. That was a very very long time ago. I forget why ME took it out. It was never very useful anyway. I agree it wouldn't be anywhere near as useful as in other programs, but I would find it handy to point at a message to choose in the index. I find typing in a specific number to be cumbersome in a mailbox with hundreds or thousands of messages, and leaning on a movement key never seems to repeat at the rate I like. I suppose the drawback would be that the mouse should be disabled in the pager to avoid the need for holding down a shift to get clicks through to the terminal for copying. -- Paul Ackersviller
Re: MUA statistics
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:16:32PM +0100, Thorsten Haude (dis)graced my inbox with: Hi, * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 04:15]: On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 10:29:32AM +0100, Thorsten Haude (dis)graced my inbox with: You'd be surprised. I'm just trying to write a sigdaemon with Perl. It should work from a config file and should also feed more than one FIFO (I use some random header lines). I still struggle with the daemonizing though. In other words, I don't see the advantage to daemonizing it. The advantage is that it's fun to do it that way. Yes, I'm a geek. Oh, well when you put it that way, I can understand. Unless you specifically have something to gain by doing it in perl, I suggest you do it in python. It's terribly easy to make daemons with python ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BUFFERS=20 FILES=15 2nd down, 4th quarter, 5 yards to go!
Re: MUA statistics
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:32:14AM +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan (dis)graced my inbox with: Is this program something you wrote? I would love to run it on my stuff, since I am on a lot of car and music related lists. I am sure it would be VERY different from your results. Attached a little bash hack which works for me. Gives me results like so : I don't think that's terribly accurate. 11839 = Mutt 2 81 = Outlook 3 161 = Web 4 0 = IncrediMail 5 22 = Eudora 6 33 = Mozilla 7 52 = KMail 8 33 = Internet 9 13 = Emacs 10 5 = Evolution 11 6 = MIME-tools 12 48 = Misc Others I'm pretty sure I don't know that many people. You need to implement some way of not counting the same guy twice. I'd be willing to bet that the 161 Web clients is one person (my best friend, he uses a webmail thing). It's a good start, though! ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Once you've put one of his books down, you simply can't pick it up again. -- Mark Twain (talking about Henry James)
Re: reply_regexp question
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:09:42AM +0100, Magnus Bodin (dis)graced my inbox with: On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 08:32:33PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: I'd be willing to bet that perl's implementation of regex is starkly different than mutt's. mutts regexp == POSIX? Is it gnu or classic Henry Spencer? Beats me. I've only been doing this stuff for four months ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If I wanted your opinion, I'd give it to you.
Re: mice in mutt
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 19:04:20 -0500, Paul Ackersviller wrote: I agree it wouldn't be anywhere near as useful as in other programs, but I would find it handy to point at a message to choose in the index. I find typing in a specific number to be cumbersome in a mailbox with hundreds or thousands of messages, and leaning on a movement key never seems to repeat at the rate I like. I agree about that, if done properly (see below). I suppose the drawback would be that the mouse should be disabled in the pager to avoid the need for holding down a shift to get clicks through to the terminal for copying. Yes, but you would need the keyboard to go back to the index or select another article, and I don't think this is a good thing: when the mouse is used, it's better to be able to do most operations with it. I think that only some parts of the terminal should be clickable. Or anything could be clickable (then the behavior depends on the program), but you should still be able to mark a selection without the keyboard (when the mouse button isn't immediately released, it shouldn't be interpreted as a click). -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: terminal damaging
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:48:18PM -0500, Thomas Dickey (dis)graced my inbox with: (using mutt 1.25i I have no problem viewing your attachment) Room BuR102 Abay st. Astana, 473000 Republic of Kazakhstan. This is weird. On the first message, I saw 'Room ???102'. Now I see 'Room BuR102'. What's up?? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This is the sixth book I've written, which isn't bad for a guy who's only read two. -- George Burns
Re: [mutt-users] Re: MUA statistics
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:19:33PM +0100, Thorsten Haude (dis)graced my inbox with: I use NEdit on occaision. I don't like it because it's the only program i've found that doesn't support my mouse wheel. I does now. Still doesn't beat vim, imho ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me. -- Emo Philips
Re: threading, but collapsed at mutt's startup
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:32:17 +0530 Hi, On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 Stefan [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:14:57AM -0600, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: hrm...how about folder-hook . push \eV it seems that this does it's job, thx! Sorry for nit-picking, but this is nicer : folder-hook . push collapse-all pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: Embedded mail addresses
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:46:30 +0530 Hi, On Tue, 06 Nov 2001 Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke thusly: hello, If I am sent a message with email addresses mentioned in the message how can I extract them, and send a mail .. parallel to the way I can extract URLs. Sorry I'm replying so late, but I just saw this one. I suggest you look at this : http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/jura/moritz/mail2muttalias.html It is actually to add aliases to your addressbook, but you could, I'm sure, hack up the code to send a mail to a given address (I haven't done this, so don't LART me if it doesn't work :-) Hope this helps. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: PGP sign mail without MIME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thorsten Haude mutt [09/11/01 14:49 +0100]: * Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-09 13:23]: in muttrc, I easily can set a sendhook such that every email gets signed by PGP. But this always sets the MIME type accordingly. 6.3.101. pgp_autosign Type: boolean Default: no Still not parseable by (say) Outlook and Eudora. The best way to go is macro compose S Fgpg -a --clearsign -u 0xEDEDEFB9 -srs -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE77A3ORB4r9e3t77kRAp53AKDHRyW2xNgIsKSdn7pb5cBBMtGZdACgjj7M ZPC7A/tWHtbILoHFRUc7HyI= =hNvp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
