new mail problems
Not sure if this is mutt or the server, but I am finding that when I come back to the computer after a while, mutt is not notifying me of new mail in any way, yet if I change to mail folders, there is new mail, marked appropriately with an 'N'. Why would this be? May be coincidental, but it seems when I have left it for a while. Also could be coincidental, but it seems to have happened since I moved from 1.3.27 to 1.3.28. Thanks. -Ken
new mail problems II
Also, it seems that after I start using it again after being idle, I get notified of new mail as it should. -Ken
Re: (wish) urlview w/ context?
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 02:30:57PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: Hello, I tried googling for this without success. I was wondering if anybody knows of a way to get urlview to show some context along with the URLs it presents. http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mac/projects/pyurlview.py snip Regards, Doug
folder view on startup (was Re: Selecting a mailbox)
hi, i'm a new mutt user - so sorry for any stupid questions On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 01:46:43PM +0100, Dean Richard Benson wrote: Hi all The way that I use mutt is that I have setup about 20 different mailboxes (folders), so most of the time I leave the view on the folder view and keep my eye out for an N in the new mail field. i also use this approach - every time new mail arrives, i get notified and then start mutt, but then have to change folders to the new mail folder. i'm looking for a smarter way to do this. is there a way to open mutt with the view on the folder view? or any other bright ideas. have a good day, roelof -- Metsys/SAWS, P/Bag X15, Bethlehem, 9700, South Africa, tel: +27-58-303-5571, fax: +27-58-303-2352, cell: 082-563-9776
Total blockhead newbie wants to know...
...about filtering mail, when using mutt 1.3.15i and procmail 3.15.1. After god knows how long struggle I have managed to get my internet connection and email work without KDE (I don't like it, it just feels too ready, Windows of the Unix-world) and now that everything works it is time to mess up everything with filters. I have read man pages and a couple of Linux-books, but I still don't quite understand how this thing works. Is it somehow possible to do things so, that procmail filters the messages to the ~/Mail -directory and mutt reads that directory directly instead of /var/spool/mail/jani? Can I also put mutt to show list of folders in my ~/Mail -directory at startup? Right now my .procmailrc looks like this: MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from :0: * ^[EMAIL PROTECTED] golem-devel :0: * ^[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt-users In fact, I'm not even sure what that LOGFILE-line means, I just took it from one of the example files. :-) And my .muttrc looks like this: set folder=~/Mail set editor=jed# editor to use when composing messages set help# show the help lines set indent_string= # how to quote replied text set from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] set move=no set include set sort=threads set charset=iso-8859-1 set mark_old=no #set allow_8bit=no set envelope_from=yes #set postpone=ask-yes #color normal white default color hdrdefault red default color quoted brightblue default color signature red default color indicator brightyellow red color error brightred default color status yellow blue color tree magenta default # the thread tree in the index menu color tilde magenta default color message brightcyan default color markers brightcyan default color attachment brightmagenta default color search default green # how to hilite search patterns in the pager color header brightred default ^(From|Subject): color body magenta default (ftp|http)://[^ ]+ # point out URLs color body magenta default [-a-z_0-9.]+@[-a-z_0-9.]+# e-mail addresses color underline brightgreen default # attributes when using a mono terminal #mono header underline ^(From|Subject): mono quoted bold And finally, because I use modem connection, when I send messages with sendmail -q, it would be very nice to know when the messages are sent, so I know when I can close connection. Checking the situation all the time with sendmail -bp is frustrating, because sendmail gives no output. I hope that I even managed to explain my problem so that at least somebody in this list understands what I'm trying to say... =)
Re: folder view on startup (was Re: Selecting a mailbox)
roelof burger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: i'm a new mutt user - so sorry for any stupid questions welcome. :) every time new mail arrives, i get notified and then start mutt, but then have to change folders to the new mail folder. i'm looking for a smarter way to do this. is there a way to open mutt with the view on the folder view? or any other bright ideas. mutt -Z HTH, Michael -- Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX. (By Stephan Zielinski) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.99 is out
02-May-02 at 02:21, Thomas Roessler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Mutt-1.3.99 is available from ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/. There should be no significant changes against 1.3.28, except for some minor bug fixes, and build fixes concerning environments which are iconv-impaired. Please test this versin thoroughly. It's, obviously, intended to be the Very Last Beta Before 1.4 (TM). I'm waiting for 1.3.99.1 ;-) -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:99.30% see www.mersenne.org] All this talk about everyone being connected to the Internet by the year ignores the simple fact that a large number of people in the world are fighting for survival.
Re: Total blockhead newbie wants to know...
Hi, * Jani Alanko [05/02/02 13:22:33 CEST] wrote: ...about filtering mail, when using mutt 1.3.15i and procmail 3.15.1. Filtering is not exactly what this list is about, I'm afraid. I have read man pages and a couple of Linux-books, but I still don't quite understand how this thing works. Is it somehow possible to do things so, that procmail filters the messages to the ~/Mail -directory and mutt reads that directory directly instead of /var/spool/mail/jani? Yes and no. Via the $spoolfile variable you can point mutt to a file inside that directory. But you cannot handle a directory with mbox (you're using mbox?) files as if it was a single file. Can I also put mutt to show list of folders in my ~/Mail -directory at startup? I strongly suggest reading the mutt manual. Tell mutt via $mailbox what your files in ~/Mail are and start mutt with: 'mutt -y' Right now my .procmailrc looks like this: [...] LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from In fact, I'm not even sure what that LOGFILE-line means, I just took it from one of the example files. :-) Think about it once again. Could the name 'LOGFILE' deal with logging procmail's actions to a file for any future consultation? And finally, because I use modem connection, when I send messages with sendmail -q, it would be very nice to know when the messages are sent, so I know when I can close connection. Checking the situation all the time with sendmail -bp is frustrating, because sendmail gives no output. 'mailq' is a synonym for 'sendmail -bp'. It's shorter. ;-) Cheers, Rocco. msg27798/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folder view on startup (was Re: Selecting a mailbox)
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:29:50AM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: roelof burger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: i'm a new mutt user - so sorry for any stupid questions welcome. :) every time new mail arrives, i get notified and then start mutt, but then have to change folders to the new mail folder. i'm looking for a smarter way to do this. is there a way to open mutt with the view on the folder view? or any other bright ideas. mutt -Z or mutt -y see man mutt -- Regards, Paul msg27799/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: About wrapping lines.
Mike Schiraldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: job? I just don't like to enable wrapping in Emacs itself, because I hate it when the editor handles the line length. Just do this: set editor=emacs --eval '(turn-on-auto-fill)' and line wrapping will only be turned on when emacs is launched by mutt. Ok, but how this is done when using 'emacsclient'? I have Emacs running as gnuserv in tty8 all the time. When I put the line you adviced me to put, emacsclient tells me this: emacsclient: unrecognized option `--eval' So, is there any way to use this option with emacsclient? Just for the record; I can't handle any Elisp, so I can't handle any of that -- by myself, at least. :-) -- Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GNU/Linux user number 269376 http://erppimaa.cjb.net/~ekhowl/ | ICQ UIN: 156057281 ekh on IRCnet | GnuPG Public Key ID: 1410081E msg27800/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
send-hook ignored depending on standard input?
I have a send-hook which seems to work fine: send-hook '@ripe.net' 'my_hdr X-NCC-Regid: fr.gitoyen' for interactive use. But when I use mutt with the standard input redirected from a program: dosomething | mutt -s MODIFY [EMAIL PROTECTED] the custom header is not appended at all. If I replace the send-hook by a direct call to my_hdr, it works. So, there is something wrong in the send-hook which manifests itself only when standard input is a program! Other relevant part of .muttrc, the default send-hook: send-hook '.' 'my_hdr From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; unmy_hdr Reply-To; unmy_hdr X-NCC-Regid' ... send-hook '@ripe.net' 'my_hdr X-NCC-Regid: fr.gitoyen' Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.17 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL +USE_GNUTLS +USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh MIXMASTER=mixmaster To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. patch-1.3.24.rr.compressed.1 patch-1.3.24.appoct.2 patch-1.3.15.sw.pgp-outlook.1 patch-1.3.24.admcd.gnutls.1 Md.use_editor Md.paths_mutt.man Md.muttbug_no_list Md.use_etc_mailname Md.muttbug_warning Md.gpg_status_fd patch-1.2.xtitles.1 patch-1.3.23.1.ametzler.pgp_good_sign
Re: new mail problems
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % Not sure if this is mutt or the server, but I am finding that when I It's never mutt :-) % come back to the computer after a while, mutt is not notifying me of % new mail in any way, yet if I change to mail folders, there is new % mail, marked appropriately with an 'N'. Why would this be? May be It sounds like your $timeout is set too high (or to zero). AIUI, mutt checks for new mail 1) when you press a key and after $mail_check seconds since the last check and 2) after a certain period of inactivity. Check the manual and your settings. If you're using an IMAP connection or browsing a POP3 connection, the interval variable names are different. % coincidental, but it seems when I have left it for a while. Also % could be coincidental, but it seems to have happened since I moved % from 1.3.27 to 1.3.28. *That* part is odd; nothing has changed there. ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % Also, it seems that after I start using it again after being idle, I % get notified of new mail as it should. Aha -- as soon as you press a key. Yep; check your timeouts. % % % -Ken :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27802/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.99 is out
Thomas, et al -- ...and then Thomas Roessler said... % % Mutt-1.3.99 is available from ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/. There What? No compressed folder support yet? Argh! Waiting for everyone to update their patches, though the compressed folders patch and a wee bit of the X-Label: enhancements patch are the only ones that aren't clean (though I haven't compiled and tried)... Meanwhile, I wonder if the outlook-friendly create_traditional code from 1.5 is in 1.3.99 but haven't yet tried it out to see (ain't no way reading the source would help me :-) TIA HANd :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27804/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mailbox read only
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Let's back up for a moment... Has your mail always been in /var/mail, or have you been working with a mailbox under your home directory? Have you used mutt for a long time, or switched to it only recently from, say, PINE? You really didn't build and install or reinstall? I noticed that mutt and mutt_dotlock were timestamped April 21, which is only last week; *something* had to have changed on Sunday. Yep, I just compiled mutt on 21 April. But since that day until 2 days ago, nothing has happened. It was after I used spambouncec, then the problem arise. That is why at the first place I suspect that SB is the cause. I have a directory call 'mail' in my home, its for my mailing list. For the private mail, its always keep in the /var/spool/mail/sutrisno Thanks for explaining to me how does the lock mechanism work, its a good piece of information cheers -- Willy [ http://web.singnet.com.sg/~sutrisno ] Linux User #225035 - http://counter.li.org
Re: About wrapping lines.
So, is there any way to use this option with emacsclient? Just for the record; I can't handle any Elisp, so I can't handle any of that -- by myself, at least. :-) Okay, grab Rob Reid's post package. It automatically recognizes mutt messages, based on the filename IIRC. It provides a variable, post-uses-fill-mode, on by default, which turns on post mode when composing a message. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg27806/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: send-hook ignored depending on standard input?
It's not an error in your muttrc, send-hooks have never been executed in batch mode. Off hand I can't remember why this is (perhaps there is no good reason). On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:06:56PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: I have a send-hook which seems to work fine: send-hook '@ripe.net' 'my_hdr X-NCC-Regid: fr.gitoyen' for interactive use. But when I use mutt with the standard input redirected from a program: dosomething | mutt -s MODIFY [EMAIL PROTECTED] the custom header is not appended at all. If I replace the send-hook by a direct call to my_hdr, it works. So, there is something wrong in the send-hook which manifests itself only when standard input is a program!
view other msgs while composing
Is there a way to read other emails of the same folder while composing one? (Other than cranking up a second mutt.) Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: view other msgs while composing
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:06:53AM +1200, V K wrote: Is there a way to read other emails of the same folder while composing one? (Other than cranking up a second mutt.) Well, I don't know of any way to do this within mutt, but I'm not much of a power-user. I usually crank up mutt in another window. But sometimes, since my composing editor is vim, I type :new /path/to/folder scroll down to the text I care about in the other vim pane. -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlanta, GA 30348 USA | +1 404 827 4754 -- Do I have a lifestyle yet?
Re: view other msgs while composing
Hi, * V K [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-05-02 23:06]: Is there a way to read other emails of the same folder while composing one? Yes, fire up a second Mutt. (Other than cranking up a second mutt.) Oops. Thorsten -- Once upon the time, the music industry had something to offer to us - they distributed the music we would have never heard without them. Now, they need laws that prevent us to do ourself what they do for money.
Re: view other msgs while composing
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 23:51:37 +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote: * V K [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-05-02 23:06]: Is there a way to read other emails of the same folder while composing one? Yes, fire up a second Mutt. But this is a bit dangerous: you may lose flags if you don't pay attention to what you are doing. It would be fine if Mutt could have some automatical locking mechanism: a folder currently visited by another Mutt could automatically be opened in read-only mode. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: view other msgs while composing
On Fri, 03 May 2002, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 23:51:37 +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote: Yes, fire up a second Mutt. But this is a bit dangerous: you may lose flags if you don't pay attention to what you are doing. It would be fine if Mutt could have some automatical locking mechanism: a folder currently visited by another Mutt could automatically be opened in read-only mode. With 'Maildir' it should be possible to circumvent this ... Markus -- [ markus hubig ] [ mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ debian/gnu linux (sid) ] [ vorholzstrasse 6 ] [ saft: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ linux 2.4.17 i686 ] [ 76131 karlsruhe ] [ tele: +049 721 6657522 ] [ reg. Linux user #204961 ] msg27814/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
configure: error: Try using libiconv instead
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:21:54AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: Mutt-1.3.99 is available from ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/. I downloaded 1.3.99, and following the instructions in INSTALL, I also downloaded and installed libiconv, the latest version I found on the ftp site: libiconv-1.7.0.1.tar.gz. I now have /usr/local/bin/iconv, and /usr/local/doc/libiconv/, and I moved my old /usr/bin/iconv to /usr/bin/old-iconv. But when I run configure on 1.3.99, I get the subject error. Fwiw, a few lines above that, I got the following: checking version of bison... 1.25, bad So, I really have two questions. Am I simply out of luck with this bad bison, should I forget about upgrading to 1.3.99? Someday I'll upgrade my Linux installation, but that's a bit more intrusive than just upgrading Mutt. I'd like to take advantage of the new threading architecture, but 1.2.5 certainly works in the meantime. I was able to compile 1.2.5 ok. If the bison thing isn't fatal, how do I tell configure to use that new libiconv? I don't see any switches in mutt's INSTALL, and I don't know what I should do with libiconv except the usual configure, make, make install. All those steps proceeded without error, afaik. TIA, Jim
Re: (wish) urlview w/ context?
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus: display-hook ~A'set pager=builtin' display-hook '~s \\[Slashdot\\] Daily Headlines' 'set pager=w3m' display-hook '~s YOUR LINUX TODAY NEWSLETTER''set pager=w3m' Any ideas why Mutt is telling me, that display-hook is an unknown command (or something to that sort)? I'm using 1.5.0.CVS, and your way to handle URL's seemed very nice and I'd really like to take advantage of this in case of Freshmeat's newsletters... I've never heard of a display hook, and it's not in the manual. I think he meant message-hook. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare msg27816/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
many accounts
Hi, i'm a pine user, but i want to know if mutt can handle many pop accounts?, if (accounts == true) using=mutt; tanx
Re: many accounts
* On 2002.05.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Jose Hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i'm a pine user, but i want to know if mutt can handle many pop accounts?, Yes, many. If you use POP folder browsing, it can handle as many as you like with no particular overhead. mutt -f pop://server1.somedomain/ mutt -f pop://server2.otherdomain/ mutt -f pop://server3.anotherdomain/ You can use macros and such to make shortcuts to these folders, but you don't need to. If you use mutt's built-in POP download function, it can handle as many as you like, but you need macros or something to reset your pop passwords and accounts. In the latter case, it's generally recommended that you use fetchmail or getmail instead. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: many accounts
* On 2002.05.02, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Jose Hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bash# mutt -f pop://eo.yifan.net pop://eo.yifan.net/: No such file or directory (errno = 2) the_one_true_shell$ mutt -v | egrep 'Mutt|POP' Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it +USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP +USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL You may need to compile with --enable-pop. If that doesn't work, upgrade and try again. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
IMAP namespace
Mutt does not seem to prepend a namespace when I 'change-folder'. For example: set folder=imaps://imap-server/ set spoolfile=+inbox I am using Courier-IMAP, so my namespace is: * NAMESPACE ((INBOX. .)) NIL ((shared. .)) I would expect that when I change folders to =mutt-users, mutt would attempt to SELECT INBOX.mutt-users for me, but it does not. Things do work if I set folder=imaps://imap-server/inbox, but then my folders appear as imaps://imap-server/inbox.mutt-users. Have I misconfigured it? I see a message in the archive of this list from two years ago wherein Brendan Cully states that courier and mutt don't get along yet. -Zak
Re: view other msgs while composing
* Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03.05.02 00:35]: On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 23:51:37 +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote: * V K [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-05-02 23:06]: Is there a way to read other emails of the same folder while composing one? Yes, fire up a second Mutt. But this is a bit dangerous: Couldn't you open the Mailbox read-only? Apart from that, you might want to Postpone the Mail.