Re: Tidbits.

2002-05-06 Thread m2

On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:30:00PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote:
 Your other problems should also be done with macros.

Thanks to both of you. I've figured out all but this:

4) How do I display only the mailboxes containing new messages in one keypress?

op

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Re: Tidbits.

2002-05-06 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/06/02 08:59:30 CEST] wrote:
 On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:30:00PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote:
  Your other problems should also be done with macros.

 Thanks to both of you. I've figured out all but this:

 4) How do I display only the mailboxes containing new messages in one keypress?

There're some nice examples in the manual how to use
conditionals in patterns. So you could write define your own
folder_format depending on wether N is set or not.

Cheers, Rocco.



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Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Dean Richard Benson

Hi there

I wonder if someone in here can help me out with a small mutt (or maybe
locale) problem I am having.

When I receive a message with apostrophes in they come over like this
(example line)

that we\222ve received your message. As soon as our automated systems

Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?

Many thanks

Dean



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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 13:34:20 +0100, Dean Richard Benson wrote:
 Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?

Ask the sender to use a correct charset, or better, to use the ASCII
apostrophe, as the windoze \222 apostrophe doesn't correspond to
anything in Unicode.

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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Maximilian Szengel

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 01:34:20PM +0100, Dean Richard Benson wrote:
 
 Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?

 Maybe you can use charset-hook in your muttrc, for example:

 # aliases for broken MUAs
 charset-hook windows-1250 CP1250
 charset-hook windows-1251 CP1251
 charset-hook windows-1252 CP1252
 charset-hook windows-1253 CP1253
 charset-hook windows-1254 CP1254
 charset-hook windows-1255 CP1255
 charset-hook windows-1256 CP1256
 charset-hook windows-1257 CP1257
 charset-hook windows-1258 CP1258
 
Bye,

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Re: IMAP folder flagging bug while saving tagged messages

2002-05-06 Thread David T-G

Ilkka --

...and then Ilkka Tuohela said...
% 
% Description:
%   - open IMAP folder
%   - tag n messages
%   - use ; N to mark tagged messages read
%   - use ; =folder to save tagged messages to a folder

You probably meant ;s=folder, right?


% 
% Result: The messages in =folder are not actually marked read, even 
% if you marked them read before saving to folder.

Yeah.  While not what you intended, I bet that's exactly what's coded.


% 
% I think this could be considered to be a bug... probably just because
% the flags are not updated in real IMAP folder saving doesn't follow
% what you have set in UI, or something.

I think that's exactly the case; you'd need to tag, toggle, sync, and
THEN save (and sync again to purge the folder).

You should use flea submit a bug report and see what comes of it.  In the
meantime, try the sync-in-the-middle workaround.


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Re: Tidbits.

2002-05-06 Thread David T-G

Hello!


...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said...
% 
% On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:30:00PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote:
%  Your other problems should also be done with macros.
% 
% Thanks to both of you. I've figured out all but this:
% 
% 4) How do I display only the mailboxes containing new messages in one keypress?

Define a macro that pushes the same keystrokes as you would do manually
to acheive the same thing, of course.

If you know how to get to the list of mailboxes with new mail, you're on
your way.  If you don't, go back to the manual and review until you do.


% 
% op
% 
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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Mark J. Reed

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 08:34:20AM -0400, Dean Richard Benson wrote:
 Hi there
 
 I wonder if someone in here can help me out with a small mutt (or maybe
 locale) problem I am having.
 
 When I receive a message with apostrophes in they come over like this
 (example line)
 
 that we\222ve received your message. As soon as our automated systems
 
 Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?
Well, what you should do is get whoever's sending you this mail to
turn off smart quotes.  The \222 character (octal 222, decimal 146,
U+0092) is not an apostrophe but a right single quote -
and even then it's not a standard character but a Windows-specific one
(the standard right single quote character is U+2019).

However, if the mail is actually coming in with a 'charset=' value that
indicates its Windows-specific nature, then you should be able to convince
mutt to translate it for display; I'll have to defer to the muttrc gurus
for the specifics, though.

 Many thanks
 
 Dean

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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Dean Richard Benson

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 02:52:27PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 13:34:20 +0100, Dean Richard Benson wrote:
  Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?
 
 Ask the sender to use a correct charset, or better, to use the ASCII
 apostrophe, as the windoze \222 apostrophe doesn't correspond to
 anything in Unicode.

Heh, thanks for the get the sender to send the correct format tip, but
do you think me asking folks such as network solutions is going to get
them to change ;)  I do take your point tho.

- Dean



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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Dean Richard Benson

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 02:58:57PM +0200, Maximilian Szengel wrote:
 On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 01:34:20PM +0100, Dean Richard Benson wrote:
  
  Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?
 
  Maybe you can use charset-hook in your muttrc, for example:
 
  # aliases for broken MUAs
  charset-hook windows-1250 CP1250
  charset-hook windows-1251 CP1251
  charset-hook windows-1252 CP1252
  charset-hook windows-1253 CP1253
  charset-hook windows-1254 CP1254
  charset-hook windows-1255 CP1255
  charset-hook windows-1256 CP1256
  charset-hook windows-1257 CP1257
  charset-hook windows-1258 CP1258
  

Hi Max

This seemed like a great idea, but unfortunately still didn't work.

Is there any more I can tell you about the source emails that might
help? (sorry still a bit of a mutt-newbie)

Thanks

Dean



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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Maximilian Szengel

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 03:10:20PM +0100, Dean Richard Benson wrote:

 Hi Dean,
 
 This seemed like a great idea, but unfortunately still didn't work.
 
 Is there any more I can tell you about the source emails that might
 help? (sorry still a bit of a mutt-newbie)

 I am mutt-newbie, as well :-). I just found that somewhere in the
 example rc's on the net. I thought it may help, but see the follow-up
 by Mark. He explains that problem very well.

Bye,

 max
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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread David Ellement

On 020506, at 13:34:20, Dean Richard Benson wrote
 When I receive a message with apostrophes in they come over like this
 (example line)
 
 that we\222ve received your message. As soon as our automated systems
 
 Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?

Check the archives for a URL for demoroniser.pl, then try the macro:

macro index D :set display_filter=demoroniser.pl\n\n:set\
   display_filter=''\n


The demoroniser.pl script translates the Windows non-standard
characters to standard ASCII.

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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Dean Richard Benson

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:29:31AM -0700, David Ellement wrote:
 On 020506, at 13:34:20, Dean Richard Benson wrote
  When I receive a message with apostrophes in they come over like this
  (example line)
  
  that we\222ve received your message. As soon as our automated systems
  
  Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?
 
 Check the archives for a URL for demoroniser.pl, then try the macro:
 
 macro index D :set display_filter=demoroniser.pl\n\n:set\
  display_filter=''\n
 
 
 The demoroniser.pl script translates the Windows non-standard
 characters to standard ASCII.

Great! :)

Thanks, just in case anyone else wants it, here is the URL:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/

...a Perl program available for downloading from this site which corrects
numerous errors and incompatibilities in HTML generated by, or edited
with, Microsoft applications. The demoroniser keeps you from looking
dumber than a bag of dirt when your Web page is viewed by a user on a
non-Microsoft platform. 

- Dean



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Re: Tidbits.

2002-05-06 Thread Andre Berger


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 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/06/02 08:59:30 CEST] wrote:
  On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:30:00PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote:
   Your other problems should also be done with macros.
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  Thanks to both of you. I've figured out all but this:
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  4) How do I display only the mailboxes containing new messages in one k=
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 There're some nice examples in the manual how to use
 conditionals in patterns. So you could write define your own
 folder_format depending on wether N is set or not.
=20
 Cheers, Rocco.

Hmm, but does folder_format really help displaying only the
mailboxes containing new messages in one keypress? I've tried to
figure out a mask pattern for change folders ? that would show
only mailboxes with new mail, but haven't succeeded.

-Andre

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newbie

2002-05-06 Thread Mike Arrison

Howdy,
I'm currently using pine, and would like to switch to mutt.  The
major stumbling block I'm hitting is finding a simple muttrc file to learn
from.  I've seen the huge ones on mutt.org, but what I'm looking for is a
10 liner or something to get me started.  Can anybody point me in the
right direction here?

 -Mike Arrison





Re: newbie

2002-05-06 Thread Simon White

06-May-02 at 16:55, Simon White ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 06-May-02 at 11:34, Mike Arrison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
  Howdy,
  I'm currently using pine, and would like to switch to mutt.  The
  major stumbling block I'm hitting is finding a simple muttrc file to learn
  from.  I've seen the huge ones on mutt.org, but what I'm looking for is a
  10 liner or something to get me started.  Can anybody point me in the
  right direction here?
 
 There are loads out there. Your best bet (.muttrc with Pine keystrokes
 included) - http://www.dotfiles.com/

http://www.dotfiles.com/index.php3?app_id=27

for the Mutt specific ones

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Re: newbie

2002-05-06 Thread Will Yardley

Mike Arrison wrote:

 I'm currently using pine, and would like to switch to mutt.  The major
 stumbling block I'm hitting is finding a simple muttrc file to learn
 from.  I've seen the huge ones on mutt.org, but what I'm looking for
 is a 10 liner or something to get me started.  Can anybody point me in
 the right direction here?

the longer, the better!!

on a more serious note, the problem with giving you a 10 liner is that
it's hard to say what features you'd like.

if you're used to to PINE, you might want to bind some keys in a way
that's similar to PINE, at least at first.

here are my votes for other stuff:

## don't ask before deleting
set delete
*# don't prompt for recipient and subject when replying
set fast_reply
## don't ask when appending message to an existing folder
unset confirmappend
## show 10 lines of index while in the pager
set pager_index_lines=10
## i don't care if a message is old or new if unread
unset mark_old
## if someone sends us plain text AND html, view the plain text
alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html
ignore *
unignore user-agent: x-agent: x-mailer: from: date subject to cc reply-to: 
mail-followup-to:
## define alternate addresses
set alternates = (you|this|that)(blah\.)?foo\.com

my favorite like PINE bindingsnd pager R group-reply
## pager like pine stuff
bind pager p previous-undeleted
bind pager n next-undeleted
bind pager , exit
bind pager x sync-mailbox
bind pager $ noop
bind pager y print-message

bind index R group-reply
bind index v display-message
bind index p previous-undeleted
bind index n next-undeleted
macro index , change-folder?tab
bind index x sync-mailbox
bind index $ sort-mailbox
bind index - previous-page
bind index y print-message

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Re: newbie

2002-05-06 Thread David T-G

Mike --

...and then Mike Arrison said...
% 
% Howdy,

Hi!


%   I'm currently using pine, and would like to switch to mutt.  The

Welcome aboard!


% major stumbling block I'm hitting is finding a simple muttrc file to learn
% from.  I've seen the huge ones on mutt.org, but what I'm looking for is a
% 10 liner or something to get me started.  Can anybody point me in the
% right direction here?

Simon has pointed you to some muttrc-for-pine-folks, which will help you
keep your old PINE keystrokes in place.  Other than that, though (and
that not even necessary; why not learn some new keybindings for fun?),
you don't *have* to have a muttrc file.  The defaults are generally
sensible, and it's quite possible to run without any special settings.

There's also the system muttrc file, usually in /usr/local/etc/Muttrc or
perhaps /etc/Muttrc but always, assuming a full and healthy installation,
available at

  `mutt -v | grep SYSCONFDIR | awk -F\ '{print $2}'`/Muttrc

for mutt itself to find, for your perusal (just type less or more
or vi or joe or xemacs or whatever at your shell prompt -- without
the quotes, actually -- and then a space and then paste that line on and
hit return, and you'll be off and running) -- and *loaded* with comments.


% 
%  -Mike Arrison
% 


HTH  HAND

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Re: [OT] Emacs and line wrapping (was: Re: About wrapping lines.)

2002-05-06 Thread Rob Reid

At  3:41 PM EDT on May  4 Radek Spacil sent off:
 On [04/05/02] 18:23, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
  Radek Spacil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On [04/05/02] 12:36, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
   I think, that something is wrong with my Emacs, because 'M-x
   auto-fill-mode' doesn't start wrapping lines. Or, then the wrong
   thing is me -- should I somehow configure auto-fill-mode through
   'customize' or something?  It just doesn't wrap the lines...

 When I'm replying to such an email I'm using M-q, but first I have to
 make one empty line before and after the part which I cite (emacs would
 take whole message as paragraph since even empty lines are prepended
 with '' or something alike). 
 

I recommend filladapt.

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Re: Tidbits.

2002-05-06 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Andre Berger [05/06/02 18:30:39 CEST] wrote:
 * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-05-06 07:31 -0400:
  Hi,

  * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/06/02 08:59:30 CEST] wrote:
   On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 08:30:00PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote:
Your other problems should also be done with macros.

   Thanks to both of you. I've figured out all but this:

   4) How do I display only the mailboxes containing new messages in one keypress?

  There're some nice examples in the manual how to use
  conditionals in patterns. So you could write define your own
  folder_format depending on wether N is set or not.

 Hmm, but does folder_format really help displaying only the
 mailboxes containing new messages in one keypress?

I can image, allthough the result may not be exactly is
intended. If 'N' is defined for a mailbox, I could imagine to
display a line as usual, otherwise just fill it with blanks.

That was just a thought.

 I've tried to
 figure out a mask pattern for change folders ? that would show
 only mailboxes with new mail, but haven't succeeded.

That's something completely different. The mask only displays
folders/files that match a regular expression. You would have
to know exactly which boxes contain new mails before setting
the mask with a macro.

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Apostrophe

2002-05-06 Thread Bernard Massot

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 01:34:20PM +0100, Dean Richard Benson wrote:
 Hi there
 
 I wonder if someone in here can help me out with a small mutt (or maybe
 locale) problem I am having.
 
 When I receive a message with apostrophes in they come over like this
 (example line)
 
 that we\222ve received your message. As soon as our automated systems
 
 Is there any way to make the \222 be displayed correctly?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Dean
I sucribed to a mailing list using windoze1252 encoding.
I'm using the recode programm which can translate any charset encoding
to any other. I use it in procmail.

recode -f windows-1252/CR-LF..ISO_8859-15

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How to move more than one mail from mbox to another folder/mbox?

2002-05-06 Thread Oliver Fuchs

Hi all,
I have a question regarding the movement of mails in my mbox. How do I
manage to move more than one mail (step by step with C) to another
folder (mailbox). How can I mark more than one mail and tell mutt to
move (copy) the selcted mails to this folder?

Oliver
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Re: How to move more than one mail from mbox to another folder/mbox?

2002-05-06 Thread David T-G

Oliver --

...and then Oliver Fuchs said...
% 
% Hi all,

Hello!


% I have a question regarding the movement of mails in my mbox. How do I
% manage to move more than one mail (step by step with C) to another
% folder (mailbox). How can I mark more than one mail and tell mutt to
% move (copy) the selcted mails to this folder?

Tag the bunch first and then use tag-prefix (bound by default to ';')
before your command (like 'C' to copy or 's' to save).  And RTFM again :-)


% 
% Oliver
% -- 
% ... don't touch the bang-bang fruit ...


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How to select/move more than one mail to another folder?

2002-05-06 Thread Oliver Fuchs

Hi all,
I have a question regarding the movement of mails in my mbox. How do I
manage to move more than one mail (step by step with C) to another
folder (mailbox). How can I mark more than one mail and tell mutt to
move (copy) the selcted mails to this folder?

Oliver
-- 
... don't touch the bang-bang fruit ...




mailboxes under 1.3.99

2002-05-06 Thread Charles Gagnon

I was running 1.3.28 and just upgraded to 1.3.99 on Solaris8. Ever
since the upgrade, I am noticing something weird with the mailboxes.

Even after I have read all the mail in them (every piece of mail is
Status: RO), the folder still shows with the 'N' flag in the folder
list. If I quit mutt and get back in, the flag is set right.

Anyone knows why that would be?

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Re: mailboxes under 1.3.99

2002-05-06 Thread Patrick

* Charles Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-06-02 17:42]:
 I was running 1.3.28 and just upgraded to 1.3.99 on Solaris8. Ever
 since the upgrade, I am noticing something weird with the mailboxes.
 
 Even after I have read all the mail in them (every piece of mail is
 Status: RO), the folder still shows with the 'N' flag in the folder
 list. If I quit mutt and get back in, the flag is set right.
 
 Anyone knows why that would be?

Check your computer clock against a known time sorce (ie ntp).
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Re: mailboxes under 1.3.99

2002-05-06 Thread Charles Gagnon

I am:

(charlesg@renoir) /home/charlesgntpq -p
remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay offsetdisp
==
*daumier.unixrea otc1.psu.edu 2 u2   64  377 1.46 1.5120.09

And I am not too sure how this would affect mutt mailboxes
handling...

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:39:29PM -0500, Patrick wrote:
 * Charles Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-06-02 17:42]:
  I was running 1.3.28 and just upgraded to 1.3.99 on Solaris8. Ever
  since the upgrade, I am noticing something weird with the mailboxes.
  
  Even after I have read all the mail in them (every piece of mail is
  Status: RO), the folder still shows with the 'N' flag in the folder
  list. If I quit mutt and get back in, the flag is set right.
  
  Anyone knows why that would be?
 
 Check your computer clock against a known time sorce (ie ntp).
 -- 
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 Registered at: http://counter.li.org

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Re: How to move more than one mail from mbox to another folder/mbox?

2002-05-06 Thread Oliver Fuchs


On Mon, 06 May 2002, David T-G wrote:
 Tag the bunch first and then use tag-prefix (bound by default to ';')
 before your command (like 'C' to copy or 's' to save).  And RTFM again :-)
Hi,
thank you very much ... that was the awnser of my stupid question or
should I say of my lazy reading the docs ... I found it there also now ...
seems like I looked through the wrong glasses ... 

Oliver
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