Re: managing two accounts on same imap-server
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 06:32:26PM -0400, Dan Boger wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 10:47:07PM +0200, Tobias Kirchhofer wrote: macro index F7 copy-message=imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Inbox\n 'Copy message to =imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Inbox' Error-message: imap_copy_messages [a0008 NO Error in IMAP command received by server.]? NO Error? It works if i copy a message manually: C imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Inbox Password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see a difference - '=imap://...' and 'imap://...' - try removing the '=' from the macro. Great, this works! Thank you very much. Tobias Kirchhofer
headers encoding
Hello, it's quite natural that heading of a message be written in the same language as the message body. For that reason I often get letters with subject lines or From fields in Russian encoded in some encoding including codes for Cyrillic characters. But there is a problem handling such headers. Since there are lines in message headers specifying message body encoding, mutt can do (and it does!) right conversion to the display charset. But it does never convert header lines to match my terminal encoding and as a result I always get garbage on the screen instead of Cyrillic letters. I wonder if the standards defining format of e-mail messages allow for usage of non-ASCII characters in mail headers. If this is allowed, why does mutt not support it? And if it is not, I think that it makes sense to implement in mutt support for recoding from the headers encoding (which in this case can, for example, be determined as encoding of the body or of the first part in case of multipart message) to the one used by the underlying terminal. Yours sincerely, Andrey Urazov -- The worst cliques are those which consist of one man. -- G.B. Shaw -- Samstag, Mai 11, 2002, 15:12:44 +0700 - Andrey R. Urazov (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) msg27974/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debugging mutt ?
Hi, * Michael Seiwert [05/10/02 20:20:08 CEST] wrote: I've compiled mutt 1.3.99 with '--enable-debug', but I don't find any option on how to debug mutt ? 'mutt -d $yourlevel' will produce a file with debug information in your $HOME directory. Cheers, Rocco.
Re: headers encoding
Hi, * Andrey R. Urazov [05/11/02 10:44:23 CEST] wrote: it's quite natural that heading of a message be written in the same language as the message body. For that reason I often get letters with subject lines or From fields in Russian encoded in some encoding including codes for Cyrillic characters. But there is a problem handling such headers. Since there are lines in message headers specifying message body encoding, mutt can do (and it does!) right conversion to the display charset. But it does never convert header lines to match my terminal encoding and as a result I always get garbage on the screen instead of Cyrillic letters. Headers have to encoded word by word if there's something in them, which has to encoded. Usually, you should see what character set was used to encode it. If there's something going wrong - as in your case - have a look at 'iconv-hook'. I wonder if the standards defining format of e-mail messages allow for usage of non-ASCII characters in mail headers. No, and that's why they have to be encoded. The character set for header encoding does not need to be the same as for the body. Cheers, Rocco.
Re: headers encoding
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 11:59:15AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: it's quite natural that heading of a message be written in the same language as the message body. For that reason I often get letters with subject lines or From fields in Russian encoded in some encoding including codes for Cyrillic characters. But there is a problem handling such headers. Since there are lines in message headers specifying message body encoding, mutt can do (and it does!) right conversion to the display charset. But it does never convert header lines to match my terminal encoding and as a result I always get garbage on the screen instead of Cyrillic letters. Headers have to encoded word by word if there's something in them, which has to encoded. What do you mean, Rocco? Any special encoding? Please explain me how non-ascii characters should be written in the headers? Usually, you should see what character set was used to encode it. Usually encoding of the header coincide with the one of the body. But I don't know whether this is standards compliant behavior. If there's something going wrong - as in your case - have a look at 'iconv-hook'. At the moment I do not see any application of the `iconv-hook', it seems to me that the problem is not in that mutt cannot accomplish conversion on account of incorrect name of some encoding in my installation (all is correct here) but because it does not know how to treat symbols in the header. I wonder if the standards defining format of e-mail messages allow for usage of non-ASCII characters in mail headers. No, and that's why they have to be encoded. What do you mean by `being encoded'. ANY character we use is encoded in some way in a computer. The point is that ASCII is now a standard encoding while other encodings are not. Using ASCII we can say a program how the following text in a message should be encoded. The character set for header encoding does not need to be the same as for the body. Rocco, it's absolutely unclear for me how can I include non-ASCII characters in message headers the right way and say other clients how to interpret them. Yours sincerely, Andrey Urazov -- Pournelle must die! -- Samstag, Mai 11, 2002, 18:32:41 +0700 - Andrey R. Urazov (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) msg27977/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problem with w3m as mutt pager
Hello, I am trying to follow the suggestions given some days ago on the list about using w3m as the internal mutt pager, so that html email is formatted properly, and URLs are clickable. If I put: macro pager \cw |w3m\n Read with w3m inside .muttrc, and then hit C-w when looking at an html message, w3m starts inside the mutt window, but gives me the raw HTML source. If I press : URLs are highligthed and clickable, but reading the message is not possible. What am I missing? I am using: Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) System: Linux 2.4.7-10 [using slang 10404] on RH 7.2 TIA, Marco Fioretti -- There is more to life than increasing its speed. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Re: headers encoding
Hi, * Andrey R. Urazov [05/11/02 13:36:50 CEST] wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 11:59:15AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: [...] Headers have to encoded word by word if there's something in them, which has to encoded. What do you mean, Rocco? Any special encoding? Yes. Please explain me how non-ascii characters should be written in the headers? An example is: | Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Datenm=FCll?= umwandeln '=FC' is the encoded character (ü). If there's something going wrong - as in your case - have a look at 'iconv-hook'. At the moment I do not see any application of the `iconv-hook', If mutt doesn't recognize the character set of the above example, you could map it via an alias to a know one. it seems to me that the problem is not in that mutt cannot accomplish conversion on account of incorrect name of some encoding in my installation (all is correct here) but because it does not know how to treat symbols in the header. Could you give an example? I wonder if the standards defining format of e-mail messages allow for usage of non-ASCII characters in mail headers. No, and that's why they have to be encoded. What do you mean by `being encoded'. Well, all headers may only contain ASCII printable characters. With 'encoding' I mean conversion like in the above example. The character set for header encoding does not need to be the same as for the body. Rocco, it's absolutely unclear for me how can I include non-ASCII characters in message headers the right way If you have a mailer like mutt, just type them. Mutt will do the rest of the work. ;-) You'll have to look at the plain text of your message to see those conversion since they're interpreted before they're displayed. and say other clients how to interpret them. All you can do is to correctly convert headers; interpretation is left to the other side. RFC2231 describes it. And if the other side's mailer doesn't support RFC2231, you will have to avoid using non-ASCII characters. Cheers, Rocco.
How to define mailboxes ?
Hi, how to define imap mailboxes ??? mailboxes =inbox =inboxi.Archiv doesn't seem to work for me. The remote imap server is cyrus. The root mailbox is inbox. Thank you for your help. Regards Micha
Re: Problem with w3m as mutt pager
Hi,
* Marco Fioretti [05/11/02 15:26:39 CEST] wrote:
I am trying to follow the suggestions given some days ago on the list
about using w3m as the internal mutt pager, so that html email is
formatted properly, and URLs are clickable.
If I put:
macro pager \cw |w3m\n Read with w3m
inside .muttrc, and then hit C-w when looking at an html message, w3m
starts inside the mutt window, but gives me the raw HTML source. If I
press : URLs are highligthed and clickable, but reading the message
is not possible. What am I missing?
You're missing, that you have to tell w3m to assume text/html
input ('-T text/html'). The example given was not use w3m as a
pager for html mails but as a replacement for urlview to more
easily view URLs within a message.
Given that, you'll need to different macros: one calling w3m
without arguments to click URLs in text/plain mails; and
another to call w3m with arguments to make it display
text/html.
Cheers, Rocco.
Re: Problem with w3m as mutt pager
On Sat, May 11, 2002 15:34:33 at 03:34:33PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
You're missing, that you have to tell w3m to assume text/html
input ('-T text/html'). The example given was not use w3m as a
pager for html mails but as a replacement for urlview to more
easily view URLs within a message.
Given that, you'll need to different macros: one calling w3m
without arguments to click URLs in text/plain mails; and
another to call w3m with arguments to make it display
text/html.
Cheers, Rocco.
So, if I understand correctly, I should have
macro pager \cw |w3m\n make urls clickable in plain text
email
macro pager \ch |w3m -Ttext/html\n display formatted HTML
with w3m
or not? I will try it in a few hours, must go get the kids now, but
any comment/correction in the meantime would be really appreciated!
Ciao,
Marco Fioretti
--
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that
you do it. -- Gandhi
Re: How to define mailboxes ?
* Michael Seiwert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, how to define imap mailboxes ??? mailboxes `ls -1 /home/graffix/mail/* |egrep -v '(gz|drafts|sent)' | tr '\012' ' '` that's how i define them. the -1 and |tr isn't really necessary, as ls outputs differently to a term then it does to an application. dan
Re: Problem with w3m as mutt pager
Hi, * Marco Fioretti [05/11/02 16:27:57 CEST] wrote: [...] So, if I understand correctly, I should have macro pager \cw |w3m\n make urls clickable in plain text email macro pager \ch |w3m -Ttext/html\n display formatted HTML with w3m or not? Basically, yes. But note: emails do also contain a header which, in html mails, is before the initial html statement. So, browsers will have problems with that. For viewing html mails you may want to use w3m to display that html part only instead of the whole mail. Cheers, Rocco.
Re: How to define mailboxes ?
that's what happens when i send email before that first cup of coffee. dan * Michael Seiwert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: *On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 08:15:56AM -0600, dan radom wrote: * Michael Seiwert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, how to define imap mailboxes ??? mailboxes `ls -1 /home/graffix/mail/* |egrep -v '(gz|drafts|sent)' | tr '\012' ' '` that's how i define them. the -1 and |tr isn't really necessary, as ls outputs differently to a term then it does to an application. Hi, I think that isn't the way you could to with imap mailboxes. Regards Micha
Re: How to define mailboxes ?
Hi, * Michael Seiwert [05/11/02 16:19:05 CEST] wrote: *On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 08:15:56AM -0600, dan radom wrote: * Michael Seiwert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: how to define imap mailboxes ??? mailboxes `ls -1 /home/graffix/mail/* |egrep -v '(gz|drafts|sent)' | tr '\012' ' '` I think that isn't the way you could to with imap mailboxes. Correct, for local (mbox?) only. You could try something like: mailbox imap://server/... ...and have a look at the archives of this list. Cheers, Rocco.
Re: headers encoding
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 03:30:24PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: | Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Datenm=FCll?= umwandeln '=FC' is the encoded character (ü). Thanks a lot, Rocco. Now I see. And all the messages whose headers are not encoded in such a way are displayed incorrectly. With the right messages all is okay. But I have found a problem. I store aliases file in UTF8 and my terminal is set to use this encoding. But when I use Cyrillic letters in an alias as someone's full name, it gets displayed as sequence of question marks in Mutt index. Yours sincerely, Andrey Urazov -- Heisenberg may have been here. -- Samstag, Mai 11, 2002, 21:46:24 +0700 - Andrey R. Urazov (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) msg27988/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: headers encoding
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 09:52:53PM +0700, Andrey R. Urazov wrote: But I have found a problem. I store aliases file in UTF8 and my terminal is set to use this encoding. But when I use Cyrillic letters in an alias as someone's full name, it gets displayed as sequence of question marks in Mutt index. I'm sorry. All is okay. It was my mistake. Yours sincerely, Andrey Urazov -- Copying machine, n.: A device that shreds paper, flashes mysteriously coded messages, and makes duplicates for everyone in the office who isn't interested in reading them. -- Samstag, Mai 11, 2002, 21:59:15 +0700 - Andrey R. Urazov (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) msg27989/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to define mailboxes ?
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* Michael Seiwert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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I think that isn't the way you could to with imap mailboxes.
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Correct, for local (mbox?) only. You could try something like:
I use this for my local Maildirs:
mailboxes ! `ls $HOME/Maildir/ | tr \n | tr / | grep -Ev (cur=
|tmp|new|Draft|postponed|save|posted|Sent|sent|msgid.cache) | mawk '{print=
+$1}' | tr \n `
It's one ugly long line, and I'm sure one could clean the code up -
but it works for me.
mailbox imap://server/...
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Cheers, Rocco.
Have fun
-Andre
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Re: How to define mailboxes ?
Hi all,
thank you for your help.
I solved with this config:
set spoolfile={box/ssl}inbox
set folder={box/ssl}
mailboxes =INBOX/lists/suse =INBOX/lists/kde-devel
_Thank you_
Micha
Re: Archiving old mail ?
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 06:22:40PM +0200, Michael Seiwert wrote: Hi all, I use mutt 1.3.99i for reading, sending ... mail. I connect via ssl to a remote cyrus imap server. One problem I have is to archive mail ? I got a quota of 100 megs (thats not much when you are reading lists :-)). How did you solve this problem ?? Is it clever to move mails after reading to local file based mailboxes ? Any suggestions ?? Why not save it to a file using Procmail? -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8-CPU Cluster, Hosting, NAS, Linux, LaTeX, python, vim, mutt, tin
Re: Archiving old mail ?
William Park wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 06:22:40PM +0200, Michael Seiwert wrote: I use mutt 1.3.99i for reading, sending ... mail. I connect via ssl to a remote cyrus imap server. One problem I have is to archive mail ? I got a quota of 100 megs (thats not much when you are reading lists :-)). How did you solve this problem ?? Is it clever to move mails after reading to local file based mailboxes ? Any suggestions ?? Why not save it to a file using Procmail? how would he do that (since the mail is on a remote imap server)... wouldn't it be easier to tag all messages in a folder and copy them to a local Maildir or mbox folder? that should be fairly easy. -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: Archiving old mail ?
*On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 09:53:16AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: William Park wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 06:22:40PM +0200, Michael Seiwert wrote: I use mutt 1.3.99i for reading, sending ... mail. I connect via ssl to a remote cyrus imap server. One problem I have is to archive mail ? I got a quota of 100 megs (thats not much when you are reading lists :-)). How did you solve this problem ?? Is it clever to move mails after reading to local file based mailboxes ? Any suggestions ?? Why not save it to a file using Procmail? how would he do that (since the mail is on a remote imap server)... wouldn't it be easier to tag all messages in a folder and copy them to a local Maildir or mbox folder? that should be fairly easy. Hi, yes, thats exactly what I want. Is it possible to tag the messages using mutt from the commandline without open ? Regards Michael
Re: Problem with w3m as mutt pager
On Sat, May 11, 2002 16:25:27 at 04:25:27PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: Basically, yes. But note: emails do also contain a header which, in html mails, is before the initial html statement. So, browsers will have problems with that. Yes, me too, I've already seen this problem: is there any known way to make them act only on the message body? Ciao, Marco Fioretti -- Any medium powerful enough to extend man's reach is powerful enough to topple his world. To get the medium's magic to work for one's aims rather than against them is to attain literacy. Alan Kay, Computer Software, Scientific American, Sep. 1984
