Re: mutt window copy/paste (Correction)
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 09:01:53PM -0700, Deb wrote: Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] had this to say, On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 01:13:47PM -0700, Deb wrote: I forgot to mention that I'm using xterm-166, with terminfo xterm-color, on Solaris, Sparc. Not sure the xfree86 is appropriate for this platform? But xterm-color usually says that the terminal doesn't implement back color erase (bce). In that case, most full-screen applications will write explicit blanks, which xterm's select/paste will preserve. Hold on. The behavior holds for *both* xterm and xterm-color, and I just tested F-secure ssh Windoze client - and it also exhibits the same behaviour - the only common denominator is using mutt and copying/ pasting text from a displayed message. not if we're talking about the same thing. xterm stores a null in each cell for places which are erased, and a non-zero code otherwise. When someone selects data, it supplies blanks in place of embedded nulls, but does not change trailing nulls to blanks. It stores a flag to tell if the text was wrapped, so selections of wrapped lines work as expected. So the only real issue (for xterm) is whether the application wrote trailing blanks to the screen. Since XFree86 xterm implements bce and (unless you're running FreeBSD ;-), xterm-color doesn't mention bce, applications using $TERM set to xterm-color will fill cells with explicit blanks, while using the terminfo which I supplied with xterm, they'll rely on the terminal's behavior - and generally not use blanks except where it's faster than some other way. Applications such as 'screen' tend to confuse the issue of course. -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: mutt window copy/paste (Correction)
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 09:01:53PM -0700, Deb wrote: I would consider this a bug. ( sure - but not in mutt or xterm ;-) I still respectfully disagree (see above). You may find this enlightening (man xterm): highlightSelection (class HighlightSelection) If ``false'', selecting with the mouse highlights all positions on the screen between the beginning of the selection and the current position. If ``true'', xterm highlights only the positions that contain text that can be selected. The default is ``false.'' -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: aliases
* Rikard Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-08 20:29]:
I'm wondering if it's possible to have mutt aliases _without_ a proper
alias. sounds weird maybe, but i have a big contact list with email
adresses which I want to use in Mutt as an addressbook to walk through
when I press tab to bring up the aliases.
the problem is that if I don't supply an alias for the alias (which
sort of is the idea I guess) Mutt will make it like...
FirstnameLastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simple solution:
$ awk '{printf %s.%s %s\n, $1, $2, $0}' old-alias-file new-alias-file
The alias would be Firstname.Lastname, and the rest is the same.
(darren)
--
As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it
as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins.
-- Albert Schweitzer
Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives
Hi, * Alain Bench [02-07-08 20:08:40 +0200] wrote: On Friday, July 5, 2002 at 10:05:21 AM -0500, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote: I can [...] heartily endorse yahoo2mbox.pl from http://freshmeat.net/projects/yahoo2mbox/ (thanks again, Adam!). The only problem I have is with the From_ separator line: It's format is not recognised by Mutt. How have you solved this? It's with the full name, like that: | | From Michael Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 31 00:32:50 1998 | It is incorrect: ,[ mbox(5) ]- | Example: | | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 23 02:56:55 2000 | [...] `- Allthough I have a few more spaces in my mbox files the above should read: | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 31 00:32:50 1998 or | From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 00:32:50 1998 Any chance that somebody can place a compressed archive in correct mbox format somewhere on the web (I would, but I have too low quota)? bye, Rocco
Re: postponed messages
Hello! Nevertheless I have a similar problem. I want to use the traditional encrypted formats for only some people. So I do this: send-hook . 'set pgp_create_traditional=no' send-hook 'first@email\.address' \ 'set pgp_create_traditional=yes pgp_autoencrypt=yes' send-hook 'second@email\.address' \ 'set pgp_create_traditional=yes pgp_autoencrypt=yes' send-hook 'third@email\.address' 'set pgp_create_traditional=yes' Only mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is encrypted the traditional way. The first line ensures that the default is to sent quality email. After postponing mail and restarting mutt of course I get the default non-traditional setting, even when recalling postponed messages. How can I keep the setting for postponed messages? Raoul Boenisch
Re: mutt window copy/paste (Correction)
Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] had this to say, You may find this enlightening (man xterm): highlightSelection (class HighlightSelection) If ``false'', selecting with the mouse highlights all positions on the screen between the beginning of the selection and the current position. If ``true'', xterm highlights only the positions that contain text that can be selected. The default is ``false.'' Yes, it is. The F-secure window is vt100, which perhaps does confuse the issue. Thanks for taking the time... I have a bit of reading to do. deb
Re: mutt window copy/paste (Correction)
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 08:23:17AM -0700, Deb wrote: Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] had this to say, You may find this enlightening (man xterm): highlightSelection (class HighlightSelection) If ``false'', selecting with the mouse highlights all positions on the screen between the beginning of the selection and the current position. If ``true'', xterm highlights only the positions that contain text that can be selected. The default is ``false.'' Yes, it is. The F-secure window is vt100, which perhaps does confuse the issue. F-secure isn't the same program as xterm anyway - but it's likely that it makes analogous tradeoffs for keeping track of selections. -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: mutt window copy/paste (Correction)
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 08:23:17AM -0700, Deb wrote: | Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] had this to say, | Yes, it is. The F-secure window is vt100, which perhaps does confuse | the issue. You can also try Putty and Tera Term. I know that both of them (or at least putty) support the BCE feature that was mentioned elsewhere in the thread. Of course, their actual usefulness does depend on the termcap/terminfo entries on the host UNIX system. For example putty purports to be 'xterm' by default (but you can set it to whatever value you like). when connecting to solaris, mutt/vim have no color at all -- because the solaris 'xterm' termcap entry says that it doesn't support color. However if you set $TERM to 'dtterm', color works properly. When connecting to a linux (eg debian or redhat) system, their terminfo entry for 'xterm' includes color so putty gives nice colors then. I'm not sure what the original problem was, but maybe trying some other terminal emulators or $TERM settings will help lead to a solution. HTH, -D -- The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked bring shame and disgrace. Proverbs 13:5 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29471/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Easy one for thee gurus - default to encrypt
Hello gurus, While encryption has never been on my agenda, I now have a couple persons who insist that I encrypt messages I send to them. I am not familiar with encryption but just signing, and yes, I do have the keys. My question (though if it's in the FAQ just point me there after a little flame...) 1. How do I tell mutt to automatically encrypt all messages addressed to user1@domain1, user2@domain2 ??? Thanks in advance -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD. GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) Valerie: Aww, Tom, you're going maudlin on me ... Tom: I reserve the right to wax maudlin as I wane eloquent ... -- Tom Chapin
Re: Easy one for thee gurus - default to encrypt
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 08:06:33PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: 1. How do I tell mutt to automatically encrypt all messages addressed to user1@domain1, user2@domain2 ??? send-hook . set pgp_autoencrypt=no send-hook user1@domain1|user2@domain2 set pgp_autoencrypt=yes The first line makes sure autoencrypt is off by default (even after you've sent a message to one of the autoencrypt recipients). The second line turns it on when sending to one of the given addresses. You could also have one send-hook line per address, which would probably result in an easier-to-maintain list. -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlanta, GA 30348 USA | +1 404 827 4754 -- Small is beautiful.
generating .muttrc
Hi, I am planning to replace elm and pine with mutt as the university wide default email reader. This will only be possible, if it is convenient to switch to mutt. Thus, the biggest show-stopper I can find right now that mutt does not seem to have an option menu that allows users to modify the default settings to their liking. While copying the system wide Muttrc file to ~/.muttrc and editing that file is good enough for myself, this is not really an option for university wide deployment. Thus, the question is: has anybody expanded mutt to include something like an option menu that can be called from within mutt? Thanks for your help. Cheers, Martin Martin Siegert Academic Computing Servicesphone: (604) 291-4691 Simon Fraser Universityfax: (604) 291-4242 Burnaby, British Columbia email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canada V5A 1S6
set realname with folder-hook?
I'm trying set realname using a folder-hook. Tried this: folder-hook . set realname=Mark Johnson folder-hook in-mutt set realname=Mark and variants, but can't seem to get it working. When changing folders under this setup, I notice that mutt-1.3.25 gives an error indicating that 'Johnson' is an unknown variable. -- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: set realname with folder-hook?
I think you have to quote the second argument to folder-hook if it contains spaces, which means you need quotes within the quotes for cases like your default realname. Did you try this? folder-hook . set realname=\Mark Johnson\ folder-hook in-mutt set realname=Mark On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 01:46:52PM -0600, Mark Johnson wrote: I'm trying set realname using a folder-hook. Tried this: folder-hook . set realname=Mark Johnson folder-hook in-mutt set realname=Mark and variants, but can't seem to get it working. When changing folders under this setup, I notice that mutt-1.3.25 gives an error indicating that 'Johnson' is an unknown variable. -- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlanta, GA 30348 USA | +1 404 827 4754 -- Like winter snow on summer lawn, time past is time gone.
Re: set realname with folder-hook?
* On Tue, 09 Jul 2002, Mark Johnson wrote: I'm trying set realname using a folder-hook. Tried this: folder-hook . set realname=Mark Johnson folder-hook in-mutt set realname=Mark and variants, but can't seem to get it working. Try enclosing your set commands in single-quotes: folder-hook . 'set realname=Mark Johnson' folder-hook in-mutt 'set realname=Mark' -- John
Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives
* On 2002.07.09, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any chance that somebody can place a compressed archive in correct mbox format somewhere on the web (I would, but I have too low quota)? http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt-users-199919-200207.mbox.bz2 It's 12.3 GB, ranging from 10/1999 to present. I won't keep it up for long -- a few days, maybe. -- -D.Fresh fruit enriches everyone. Takes the thirst ENSA, NSIT out of everyday time. A pure whiff of oxygen, University of Chicago painting over a monochrome world in primary colors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know that. It's why everyone loves fruit.
Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives
* David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-09 16:10 -0500]: * On 2002.07.09, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any chance that somebody can place a compressed archive in correct mbox format somewhere on the web (I would, but I have too low quota)? http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt-users-199919-200207.mbox.bz2 It's 12.3 GB, ranging from 10/1999 to present. I won't keep it up for long -- a few days, maybe. Thank you very much. But the compressed file is about 12MB and the uncompressed about 85MB. Nicolas
Re: generating .muttrc - web interface
* Martin Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-09 18:09]: I am planning to replace elm and pine with mutt as the university wide default email reader. danger will robinson! This will only be possible, if it is convenient to switch to mutt. mutt is not convenient in that way. mutt is too good for most people. Thus, the biggest show-stopper I can find right now that mutt does not seem to have an option menu that allows users to modify the default settings to their liking. it keeps those away who won't RTFM. feature! While copying the system wide Muttrc file to ~/.muttrc and editing that file is good enough for myself, this is not really an option for university wide deployment. mutt is not for everybody. just like some other great programs. Thus, the question is: has anybody expanded mutt to include something like an option menu that can be called from within mutt? nope. such a feature will only be bloat. there is, however, a web based config file generator thingie. Sven [too lazy to look it up though] -- let them use dead trees!
Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives
* On 2002.07.09, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the compressed file is about 12MB and the uncompressed about 85MB. Well, I compressed it as much as I could -- oh, maybe you meant to point out my typo... yes, it's megabytes, not gigabytes. I get confused these latter days. I mean, a 200 MB disk is huuuge, right? :) Anyway, I also split it out by month: KB Filename 26 mutt-users-199910.mbox.bz2 260 mutt-users-199911.mbox.bz2 202 mutt-users-199912.mbox.bz2 322 mutt-users-21.mbox.bz2 340 mutt-users-22.mbox.bz2 338 mutt-users-23.mbox.bz2 216 mutt-users-24.mbox.bz2 478 mutt-users-25.mbox.bz2 524 mutt-users-26.mbox.bz2 304 mutt-users-27.mbox.bz2 306 mutt-users-28.mbox.bz2 288 mutt-users-29.mbox.bz2 342 mutt-users-200010.mbox.bz2 216 mutt-users-200011.mbox.bz2 215 mutt-users-200012.mbox.bz2 224 mutt-users-200101.mbox.bz2 234 mutt-users-200102.mbox.bz2 262 mutt-users-200103.mbox.bz2 308 mutt-users-200104.mbox.bz2 358 mutt-users-200105.mbox.bz2 290 mutt-users-200106.mbox.bz2 345 mutt-users-200107.mbox.bz2 314 mutt-users-200108.mbox.bz2 512 mutt-users-200109.mbox.bz2 518 mutt-users-200110.mbox.bz2 569 mutt-users-200111.mbox.bz2 616 mutt-users-200112.mbox.bz2 1023 mutt-users-200201.mbox.bz2 406 mutt-users-200202.mbox.bz2 749 mutt-users-200203.mbox.bz2 598 mutt-users-200204.mbox.bz2 365 mutt-users-200205.mbox.bz2 439 mutt-users-200206.mbox.bz2 78 mutt-users-200207.mbox.bz2 All under http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt-users/ . -- -D.Fresh fruit enriches everyone. Takes the thirst ENSA, NSIT out of everyday time. A pure whiff of oxygen, University of Chicago painting over a monochrome world in primary colors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know that. It's why everyone loves fruit.
editing '?' help file
I'd like to edit the file that comes up when I press the '?' key - anyone know where the file is located? What I what to do is organize so that it's in content areas (eg all the threading stuff togethor, all the pgp stuff togethor, etc). Having the keys in alpha order isn't too helpful! I've printed out read the various FAQs and help pages - found nothing yet. Savanna. -- Free as in 'free speech', not 'free beer'.
Re: editing '?' help file
savanna wrote: [ wrap your lines, please ] I'd like to edit the file that comes up when I press the '?' key - anyone know where the file is located? it's generated on-the-fly, based on your settings. i don't think there's any way to change it, though. -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives
--+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David Champion spake thus: * On 2002.07.09, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =20 But the compressed file is about 12MB and the uncompressed about 85MB. =20 Well, I compressed it as much as I could -- oh, maybe you meant to point out my typo... yes, it's megabytes, not gigabytes. I get confused these latter days. I mean, a 200 MB disk is huuuge, right? :) Whew, thank god that was only a typo. I have a nearly-complete archive of everything since November 2001, and it's only 4.8 MBs (roughly). What could you guys /possibly/ have sent to the list before I got here? ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Snow White has become a camera buff. She spends hours and hours shooting pictures of the seven dwarfs and their antics. Then she mails the exposed film to a cut rate photo service. It takes weeks for the developed film to arrive in the mail, but that is all right with Snow White. She clears the table, washes the dishes and sweeps the floor, all the while singing Someday my prints will come. --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9K5vcPTh2iSBKeccRAuCXAJ9d+DmfKMINPp28I9t8WFHEiLTluwCgg8yV tjcQhMJ+KR2dS+kZ1RMcg18= =/grh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62--
