Re: A couple of questions
Michael Elkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: The development branch now has a reply-hook. Neat. :) Michael -- ...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly). (By Matt Welsh) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: A couple of questions
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 10:02:53PM -0500, Michael Herman wrote: 6. Is there a way using a message-hook or send-hook to know when an e-mail is new vs. being a reply or forward? I'd like to only sign e-mails that I am creating and not replies or forwards. You don't need a hook to do this. Because the commands used to compose a new message, to reply and to forward are different, you can do this with macros, e.g., (untested): macro index m :set signature=~/.signature\n|mail macro index r :set signature=''\n|reply macro index f :set signature=''\n|forward-message HTH, Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: QP/base64 issues
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 08:57:58PM -0700, David Ellement wrote: On 020904, at 17:57:25, Jonathan Perkin wrote set allow_8bit, unset use_8bitmime: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk £ ends up coming out as ? set allow_8bit, set use_8bitmime: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk £ ends up coming out as ? Here the conversion is being done by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk. Avoid having your messages relayed by this host to prevent the conversion :-). That doesn't explain why I can invoke sendmail directly and it works. Unless I'm missing a huge clue which nobody is making clear, mutt must be invoking sendmail in a way which tells it to convert to QP as soon as it receives a £ or something. See the example I used in my original email. So it seems your machine won't allow 8bit out, while mine won't allow qp in. But it *does*, that's why I'm confused. Cheers, -- Jonathan Perkin - BBC Internet Services - http://support.bbc.co.uk/ Please check email headers for any relevant contact details
t-prot
Anyone have any experience using t-prot? I saw it in the Debian archives, and it looks like an interesting filter for TOFU and unwanted footers, etc. Kevin -- Kevin Coyner mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 msg30706/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: t-prot
* Kevin Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020905 12:32]: Anyone have any experience using t-prot? I saw it in the Debian archives, and it looks like an interesting filter for TOFU and unwanted footers, etc. I use it, I like it, but the version I'm using has two flaws. - messages forwarded from say, Outlook, will be hidden - messages from Outlook users who try to respond to quoted material in-line but fail to remove Outlook attribution will be hidden I am willing to accept both of these, as I can do v+enter to see these parts anyway. Regards, -Johan -- Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/
Being subscribed to a mailing list but having sender displayed in index
Dear all, I am subscribed to several mailing lists which I sort to different folders by procmail. So, when I changed to a folder I exactly know which mailing list's emails I am reading. For this reason, I would like to have the following feature: - I am subscribed to a mailing list and - I would like to see the sender of the email as it is the case for emails that do not belong to a mailing lists. Does anyone know any smart solution to this request? I would appreciate any hints... Thanks in advance, Lukas
Can't open PGP subprocess!: No such file or directory (errno = 2)
Howdy all, I have a question. I am using mutt to read email on an imap server. This is being done through a ssh tunnel. My question is as follows: whenever I try to sign anything with my gpg key I get the following error Can't open PGP subprocess!: No such file or directory (errno = 2) Why is that? The relevant lines from my .muttrc are set pgp_autosign=yes set pgp_sign_as=D56C5DBF set pgp_timeout=600 set sort=threads set beep_new=yes set realname=Frederick Grim set editor=vim set imap_user= set imap_pass= set preconnect=ssh -f -q -l -L 1430:10.0.0.3:143 10.0.0.3 sleep 5 set folder=imap://localhost:1430/ set spoolfile=imap://localhost:1430/INBOX I can connect (usernames and passwords excluded to protect the innocent) to the server and send mail out fine. So what am I missing. Gpg is installed on both the server and the client machines. I appreciate the time Fred -- ebitda: earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and accountants For a copy of my pgp public ket visit URL: http://norby.dyndns.org:8080
Re: Being subscribed to a mailing list but having sender displayed in index
* Lukas Ruf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020905 16:00]: Does anyone know any smart solution to this request? I would appreciate any hints... Look in the mutt manual, section 6.3.83 (Hint: use %F instead of %L) -Johan -- Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/
Re: Being subscribed to a mailing list but having sender displayed in index
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-05 16:00:37 +0200: I would like to have the following feature: - I am subscribed to a mailing list and - I would like to see the sender of the email as it is the case for emails that do not belong to a mailing lists. see index_format, s/%L/%F/ -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 4:28PM up 15 days, 22:21, 8 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 end
Re: QP/base64 issues
At 17:57 +0100 04 Sep 2002, Jonathan Perkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, I want mail sent with foreign chars such as £ å é etc to *not* be sent as QP or base64. Now, with % /usr/sbin/sendmail -t From: me To: you Subject: blah £ñ÷åòôùïéõ±²³´ . Here, not only are you missing the blank line between the headers and the body, you're also sending unlabeled 8bit data. it works *perfectly*. I get a nice clean mail, which hasn't been I wouldn't call something that violates the standards clean. Unfortunately, no matter how I configure mutt, I cannot seem to get it to behave. I believe the matter is due to the allow_8bit Mutt is behaving fine. My guess is that you have sendmail's EightBitMode option set to pass, which tells it to just pass unlabeled 8bit data through, even though this violates the standards. But when mutt sends 8bit data, it labels it as such with a header like: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit So sendmail will always encode it into 7bit if the receiving smtp server doesn't announce that it will accept 8bit messages. There may be a way to configure sendmail to blindly send 8bit data, but I'm not going to do research on how to violate the standards for you. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ When we write programs that learn, it turns out we do and they don't.
Re: QP/base64 issues
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 09:39:54AM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote: Mutt is behaving fine. My guess is that you have sendmail's EightBitMode option set to pass, which tells it to just pass unlabeled 8bit data through, even though this violates the standards. But when mutt sends 8bit data, it labels it as such with a header like: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit So sendmail will always encode it into 7bit if the receiving smtp server doesn't announce that it will accept 8bit messages. There may be a way to configure sendmail to blindly send 8bit data, but I'm not going to do research on how to violate the standards for you. Indeed, now that someone's explained it I wouldn't want to do that neither. Thanks for the explanation. Incidentally, how do you set Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit? All my mails are either QP or base64. Thanks again, -- Jonathan Perkin - BBC Internet Services - http://support.bbc.co.uk/ Please check email headers for any relevant contact details
Re: location of signature.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. These so-called rules are called netiquette. Heard of it? I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. How odd. I THINK it is better to put the reply AFTER the quoted text and this has absolutely _nothing_ to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) and keep my signature closer to the main body. This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. First of all, quote is _not_ supposed to be long. The quoted text should only contain the important parts, i.e. providing the context. Quotes should be trimmed so, that you preserve a parts of quoted text which contain something the previous writer said that you want to comment to. Quoted text should _never_ be left untrimmed. If mutt does not have this function, it is perfectly fine. But there is nothing wrong with M$ to provide it! I think there's plenty of wrong there, that M$ Outlook encourages its users to quote the whole goddamn message (and eventually the whole goddamn thread). If you are writing in Usenet or in mailing lists, you should know the guidelines of what is a Good Thing and what is not. Top-posting definitely isn't a Good Thing and neither is untrimmed quotes. By the way -- by all means, place your signature on top of your mails! But please, remember to use correct signature delimiter (-- , that is dash-dash-space)! O:-) - -- Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://erppimaa.ihku.org/ | 0x1410081E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9d3LwAtEARxQQCB4RAq/9AKCEz1r7B5o+zb2EuNdtfJD/7lCkJgCeI/fR ZzMh96fqCzQtdv+of7JgJvw= =ZkN6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: location of signature.
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But please, remember to use correct signature delimiter (-- , that is dash-dash-space)! O:-) ITYM 'that is dash-dash-space, dammit'. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: location of signature.
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 06:17:34PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text A: Top posters Q: What's the most annoying thing about email these days? -- Jonathan Perkin - BBC Internet Services - http://support.bbc.co.uk/ Please check email headers for any relevant contact details
Re: location of signature.
* Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-04 23:17]: OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and .. [unedited fullquote] thankyou. that's certainly enough. Sven -- echo black_list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs
Re: A couple of questions
* Michael Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-04 23:02]: 2. When I receive an e-mail from someone at work that is a reply to an earlier e-mail and I view it in the pager, where the other senders MUA inserted \t (tab) as the quote/attribution character, Mutt replaces the \t with a . I would like to keep the \t instead. I have played with indent_string and quote_regexp. Look at display_filter, section 6.3.36 in the manual (http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#display_filter). Set it to a script that does something like: cat | sed -e s/^\t/ /g (darren) -- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.
Re: QP/base64 issues
At 16:00 +0100 05 Sep 2002, Jonathan Perkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally, how do you set Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit? All my mails are either QP or base64. set allow_8bit will cause mutt to do that, except in some cases related to crytpographically signed messages. Whether or not the message arrives that way at the destination depends on the configuration of the various mail servers the message passes through on the way. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one works.
Re: location of signature.
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-04 18:17:34 -0500: OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. Yes. Ah, so-called good manners. Such a useless junk! I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) Yes. Just as it's natural to answer questions before they're asked. and keep my signature closer to the main body. Yes. Just as you put your signature at the top of paper letters. This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. Which of itself is rude enough. -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 5:14PM up 15 days, 23:06, 8 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 end
Ctrl-L after finding signed mail
Hi. I have a small annoying problem. I use mutt mostly on a xterm-like terminal but this also happens on the console. Everytime I go trough a signed message the screen goes nuts and I have to make a ctrl-L to put it back. This is maybe a poor termcap definition caused by the message returned by gpg. Does anyone have a solution for this? Thanks -- Pedro Miguel G. Alves THINK - Tecnologias de Informação Av. José Gomes Ferreira, nº 13 1495-139 ALGÉS Tel: +351 21 412 56 56 Geral: +351 214 127 970Fax: +351 214 125 657 HomePage: www.think.pt
Re: location of signature.
I post an email, asking a simple question. What happened? I suppose that not only Will know the answer. However, I was defined as a M$ follower, a corrupted newbie. I was then directed to a manner class. After I expressed my personal preference. I get more emails, not limited to what you have seen in this mailing list. More emails, to save precious bandwidth, I suppose, were sent directly to me. Are there good manners? Bo
Re: location of signature.
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I post an email, asking a simple question. What happened? You ignored thirty years of netiquette and suggested it was okay to do so. Are there good manners? Most of us still have them. You don't. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: location of signature.
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 01:00:49PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: Are there good manners? yes, there are. i am going to make an assumption here and assume that english is not your first language (no slight intended.) let's say you and two other people are talking, one speaks your native language and the other does not. is it mannerly to speak in your native language and exclude the third person? i think we can agree that it isn't. likewise when you post to a list, you should speak like those already present. that is mannerly. top posting isn't mannerly on the majority of lists on which i lurk. when in rome... -- Peter Abplanalp PGP: pgp.mit.edu msg30724/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: t-prot
Hello, On 05 Sep 2002, Johan Almqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use it, I like it, but the version I'm using has two flaws. Which version do you use? - messages forwarded from say, Outlook, will be hidden - messages from Outlook users who try to respond to quoted material in-line but fail to remove Outlook attribution will be hidden This might be already fixed in v0.67/r1.77. If not, and if you can get me sample messages that enable me to reproduce the misbehaviour, I'll be happy to dig into this and upload a fixed version as soon as possible. Greetings, Jochen. -- Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. -- Douglas Adams
Re: location of signature.
At 9:39 PM EDT on September 4 Bo Peng sent off: There is nothing wrong with either order. Nobody is 'corrupted' by anything. Wrong. People are. Software as good as mutt should be neutral between these preferences, i.e. provides support for both styles. No, good != neutral. Good software makes bad behavior hard. As far as bandwidth is concerned, you may not mind, but those using modems, especially in areas where internet/phone time is expensive, do mind. -- loquacity, n. A disorder which renders the sufferer unable to curb his tongue when you wish to talk. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary. Robert I. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Re: location of signature.
This will be my last post about this topic. I am not gonna waste more time on this trivial issue, even if it is important to many of you. I do not know exactly how many people reply before quoted message but over 90% of my daily emails are in this style and I can see this kind of emails all over the Internet. Maybe they are all bad-mannered people, maybe they are all corrupted by M$, I feel quite comfortable with this style and will continue to use it. In this discussion, many replies are polite and informative but others are cynical and rude, even they are written in 'good style'. I can sit down and argue with you about compared to web, ftp, mp3, rm, how much bandwidth is used for emails but I decide to quit this discussion just because many of you are too righteous to hear about it. Have a very good day. Bo
Re: mutt and exchange
On Thu Sep 05, 2002 at 03:30:28AM +0200, Corren Vorwerk wrote: i also had the prob with my mutt. without putting my password into my muttrc - i think its much saver on most computers but mine at home - i found something strange out. when i backspaced on the password-question and tham typed my password it worked. so there was some prob with the login. well the sad thing is, that i didn't find out any solution but this i just told you. you can also use the form imap://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/INBOX -- Regards, Timothy R. Robnett mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.robnett.net/~tim/ I find the pain of a little censure, even when it is unfounded, is more acute than the pleasure of much praise. Thomas Jefferson
A question on forwarding
Is there a way to forward e-mails in-line but any attachments are attached to the forward? For example, If I receive an e-mail with a spreadsheet and I would like to forward it, the text of the original e-mail would be in-line with my e-mail but the spreadsheet would be an attachment. Thanks. -- Michael Herman Director, Solution Delivery Technology ClientLogic Work (615) 301-7140 Fax (615) 301-7340
Re: location of signature.
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:00:19PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: In this discussion, many replies are polite and informative but others are cynical and rude, even they are written in 'good style'. I can sit down and argue with you about compared to web, ftp, mp3, rm, how much bandwidth is used for emails but I decide to quit this discussion just because many of you are too righteous to hear about it. i find this interesting. you say you are going to quit this discussion because people are too righteous to discuss it with you and yet you fail to address the points that many of the polite posters have brought up. i suppose quiting is easier than discussing these issues. 1) when multiple points are made in the email, it is much nicer to see the reply below the point being addressed. 2) tofu leads to very long emails in which you need to start at the bottom and read backwards in order to get a good idea of what is going on. most cultures read from the top down. 3) it is impolite to use this format in a technical forum. a response to this email would be a good place for you to practice. no extra charge. -- Peter Abplanalp PGP: pgp.mit.edu msg30730/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: location of signature.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2002, Bo Peng wrote: I do not know exactly how many people reply before quoted message but over 90% of my daily emails are in this style and I can see this kind of emails all over the Internet. Maybe they are all bad-mannered people, maybe they are all corrupted by M$, I feel quite comfortable with this style and will continue to use it. I think the more common issue is that they just don't know any better. -Ken
Re: location of signature.
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:00:19PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: This will be my last post about this topic. I am not gonna waste more time on this trivial issue, even if it is important to many of you. Hi Bo, One time, about, oh, twenty or so years ago I felt the same way you currently do about top posting. I was gently educated then as you are being now. :) Over time I came to understand why bottom posting is so important. Its actually very simple. When you top post to a list or newsgroup you are doing what's easy for you. It saves you time. Unfortunately it causes the waste of time for every other person on the list. Why - because top posting removes your response from the context you are responding to. People must spend extra time to look for what you are responding to in order to understand what the discussion is about. (and no, they can't just remember, they get hundreds of emails a day.) Top posting sends the message I am so much more important than all several hundred of you others on this list that I don't care how much of your time I waste. Bottom posting says I respect the others on this list and I will take a little extra time to make sure I don't waste the time of all the hundreds of others on this list. I realize that you may not agree with this but please understand that it is both the official and unofficial law of most email lists and newsgroups on the internet. Those places that don't use it are just full of clueless newbies like I was, (hope its a was :) ), that just haven't figured out that they are needlessly wasting tons of time. As for the manner on this group, you are correct. This group can be a little rougher in its treatment of newbies than most others. I'm not sure why they think they have to be but its just the select few self-appointed/self-anointed ego-geek types. Not untypical. Don't let 'em colloquialbust your chops/colloquial too much. There will always be some folks like that around. In this case those folks just happen to be very knowledgeable about the issue at hand (how to use mutt) so nobody in this list will be trying to reign in their behavior even if it is unnecessary IMHO. Regarding the use of bandwidth, see below I do not know exactly how many people reply before quoted message but over 90% of my daily emails are in this style and I can see this kind of emails all over the Internet. Maybe they are all bad-mannered people, maybe they are all corrupted by M$, I feel quite comfortable with this style and will continue to use it. In this discussion, many replies are polite and informative but others are cynical and rude, even they are written in 'good style'. I can sit down and argue with you about compared to web, ftp, mp3, rm, how much bandwidth is used for emails but I decide to quit this discussion just because many of you are too righteous to hear about it. People subscribe to email lists and newsgroups so anything posted to those lists or groups is automatically delivered. The subscribers don't get a choice and if we do the math - 1 email times hundreds or thousands of subscribers we can see that its a very bad idea to use anymore bandwidth than the absolute minimum when posting. Think of it as a broadcast. The other things you mentioned are individual activities initiated by the users choice so the expenditure of bandwidth is under their control. When you post/broadcast you are making the choice to expend other people bandwidth without their consent so use as little of it as you can. Its just another application of the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (man, I can't believe I actually had to put that in a post :) ) And seeing how long this is I'd better stop now before I use any mor.. -- Jeff Kinz, Director, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] copyright 1995-2002. Use restricted to non-UCE uses. Any other use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.ultranet.com/~jkinz/policy.html. [EMAIL PROTECTED] copyright 2002. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://users.rcn.com/jkinz/policy.html. (¬_-o) //\ eLviintuaxbilse/\\ V_/_ _\_V
Re: location of signature.
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:49:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the manner on this group, you are correct. This group can be a little rougher in its treatment of newbies than most others. I'm not sure why they think they have to be but its just the select few self-appointed/self-anointed ego-geek types. Not untypical. Don't let 'em colloquialbust your chops/colloquial too much. anyone who thinks bo's treatment was rough hasn't been on very many lists. of course, the off list emails might have been the ones that were rough. -- Peter Abplanalp PGP: pgp.mit.edu msg30733/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ctrl-L after finding signed mail
* Pedro Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-05 17:02]: I have a small annoying problem. I use mutt mostly on a xterm-like terminal but this also happens on the console. Everytime I go trough a signed message the screen goes nuts and I have to make a ctrl-L to put it back. This is maybe a poor termcap definition caused by the message returned by gpg. Does anyone have a solution for this? um, how exactly do you go through a signed message? do you view the message with display-message? do you have pgp_verify_sig set? Mail-Followup-To: Pedro Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mutt Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] are you not susbcribed to the list? (see sig) Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] use lists address when you are *not* subscribed use subscribe address when you *are* subscribed - http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html
Re: location of signature.
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 06:01:48PM -0600, Peter T. Abplanalp wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 07:49:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the manner on this group, you are correct. This group can be a little rougher in its treatment of newbies than most others. I'm not sure why they think they have to be but its just the select few self-appointed/self-anointed ego-geek types. Not untypical. Don't let 'em colloquialbust your chops/colloquial too much. anyone who thinks bo's treatment was rough hasn't been on very many lists. of course, the off list emails might have been the ones that were rough. I think I'm referring mostly to Linux oriented lists which have topics that tend to attract newbies. They are not subjected to as much abuse there I guess because most of those people feel a little bit like they are trying to attract more people to Open Source as opposed to trying to frighten them away. :) Quoting Sven Mutt is not for everyone is an OK premise but I do worry that the way the message is delivered has a negative affect on how Open Source is perceived by persons who have been the recipients of those messages. -- Jeff Kinz, Director, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] copyright 1995-2002. Use restricted to non-UCE uses. Any other use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.ultranet.com/~jkinz/policy.html. [EMAIL PROTECTED] copyright 2002. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://users.rcn.com/jkinz/policy.html. (¬_-o) //\ eLviintuaxbilse/\\ V_/_ _\_V
Re: A question on forwarding - (mime_)forward_*
* Michael Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-05 22:13]: Is there a way to forward e-mails in-line but any attachments are attached to the forward? For example, If I receive an e-mail with a spreadsheet and I would like to forward it, the text of the original e-mail would be in-line with my e-mail but the spreadsheet would be an attachment. 6.3.52. forward_decode -- Type: boolean -- Default: yes Controls the decoding of complex MIME messages into text/plain when forwarding a message. The message header is also RFC2047 decoded. This variable is only used, if $mime_forward is unset, otherwise $mime_forward_decode is used instead. 6.3.54. forward_quote -- Type: boolean -- Default: no When set forwarded messages included in the main body of the message (when $mime_forward is unset) will be quoted using $indent_string. 6.3.103 mime_forward 6.3.104 mime_forward_decode 6.3.105 mime_forward_rest please try these variables yourself. i'm sure you'll find the answer... Sven [02:37am.. my oh my..]
display_filter + sed - tabs to quotes (was: A couple of questions)
* Michael Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-04 23:02]: When I receive an e-mail from someone at work that is a reply to an earlier e-mail and I view it in the pager, where the other senders MUA inserted \t (tab) as the quote/attribution character, Mutt replaces the \t with a . I would like to keep the \t instead. I have played with indent_string and quote_regexp. * darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-05 15:37]: Look at display_filter, section 6.3.36 in the manual (http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#display_filter). Set it to a script that does something like: cat | sed -e s/^\t/ /g uh. UUCA. if using sed then stuff all the changes into a file and let sed use for the filtering: $ grep display_filter ~/.muttrc set display_filter=/path/sed -f mutt.sed $ cat mutt.sed s/^\t/ / if your sed does not understand \t then use a literal one. hope this helps.. Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] UUCA http://www.iki.fi/~era/unix/award.html UUCA Awards for the Useless Use of cat, UUCA echo, kill, ls, test, wc or backticks
%s expansion in query_command
Regarding mutt 1.4i: Is the %s which the query_command variable expects expanded by mutt in the same manner as %s in mailcap entries? I.e., Keep the %-expandos away from shell quoting... Mutt does this for you (as described in the mailcap sections)? The explanation of query_command gives an example (manual.txt:2209) that uses single-quotes around the %s. The example doesn't work right when the query contains shell metacharacters (eg, *); the metachars get expanded by the shell. Without the quotes it seems to work correctly. Rather misleading; I welcome any useful clarification of this. Thanks. Ciao, Keith.
Re: A question on forwarding
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:57:24PM -0400, Michael Herman wrote:
Is there a way to forward e-mails in-line but any attachments are
attached to the forward?
For example, If I receive an e-mail with a spreadsheet and I would
like to forward it, the text of the original e-mail would be in-line
with my e-mail but the spreadsheet would be an attachment.
To forward messages that way, you need to go to the attachment menu
('v'), tag all the attachments ('t'), then forward them all using ';f'.
You don't want to forward them MIME encapsulated, so if you see this
prompt,
Forward MIME encapsulated? ([n]/y):
answer 'n'. I see this prompt because I have set mime_forward=ask-no
in my muttrc. Since the default for this variable is unset or no, you
may not even encounter the question.
HTH,
Gary
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Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies
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Mutt guessing wrong encoding for outgoing PDFs?
I didn't see this in the FAQ or in a search of the archives, so just point me to the right spot if this is an FAQ that I missed somehow. When sending some PDFs, mutt is incorrectly guessing that 'quoted printable' is sufficient -- the PDF in question doesn't contain 8-bit characters in the first several dozen lines, and I'm guessing mutt only scans the first several before making its choice? Using the wrong encoding causes CRLF etc. to be munged deep in the 8-bit characters, leading to corrupted PDFs. Is there any way to control mutt's behavior to say 'always send PDF files as base64', sort of like a reverse mailcap, or to make it check more thoroughly? Thanks! Brian -- Brian Grayson, SysPerf (System Performance, Modeling, and Simulation) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Somerset Design Center Motorola Austin, TX
Re: A question on forwarding
On 020905, at 18:41:18, Gary Johnson wrote
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:57:24PM -0400, Michael Herman wrote:
Is there a way to forward e-mails in-line but any attachments are
attached to the forward?
For example, If I receive an e-mail with a spreadsheet and I would
like to forward it, the text of the original e-mail would be in-line
with my e-mail but the spreadsheet would be an attachment.
To forward messages that way, you need to go to the attachment menu
('v'), tag all the attachments ('t'), then forward them all using ';f'.
It doesn't seem like this does quite what Michael asked, if I understand
him correctly. He seems to want the in-line part of the original
message included his forwarded message, with the attachments appearing
as attachments to his message. Mutt only seems to allow all in-line or
all mime forwarding. With mime_forward set, if I tag the in-line part
of message along with attachments before forwarding, the in-line part
appears a another attachment, rather than within my message part; if I
don't tag the in-line part, it doesn't appear at all.
Have I missed something?
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David Ellement
Re: location of signature.
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 05:00:19PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: This will be my last post about this topic. I am not gonna waste more time on this trivial issue, even if it is important to many of you. I do not know exactly how many people reply before quoted message but over 90% of my daily emails are in this style and I can see this kind of emails all over the Internet. Maybe they are all bad-mannered people, maybe they are all corrupted by M$, I feel quite comfortable with this style and will continue to use it. Ah, ignorance. And unwillfulness to learn. The dark side they are. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 Das Briefgeheimnis sowie das Post- und Fernmeldegeheimnis sind unverletzlich. -- Grundgesetz, Artikel 10, Abs. 1 Auch wenn Otto Schily das anders sieht.
