OT: help signing gpg key

2009-01-19 Thread ssizarit
So I've gotten around to generating my own personal GPG key and
signing every mail with it. Problem is, I don't know anyone with gpg
or pgp, and want my key to be signed. If I understand correctly, this
should be done face to face? Or can someone on this list do it? I'm
fairly new to all of this and don't really know where to start.

Thanks,
Meli


Re: Finding messages from one person replied to by another?

2009-01-19 Thread Alexandre
Hello,

i am using mairix and would like to improve a mutt macro:

# Mairix
macro generic f shell-escapemairix  search via mairix
# Load the results mailbox
macro generic ,f change-folderkill-line=xmairixenter load the search 
results mailbox

In fact, i would like to have only one macro which search via mairix and
which load the search results after.

Do you have any idea how i could do that?

thank you.

Alexandre

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Re: imap, maildir, folders with both subfolders and messages

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Monday, January 19 at 10:13 AM, quoth Rejo Zenger:
 The thing is, most of the mailboxes that are marked with a + do 
 contain subfolders, but they do not contain any messages. I presume, 
 the + mark is present because the mailbox does have the maildir 
 folders cur, new and tmp. So, the + sign doesn't tell 
 whether the folder contains messages as well, but just whether it 
 *could* contain messages. Right?

Correct.

 Then, I noticed that in the IMAP folder listing, any folder that 
 contains any sub-folders has this trailing dot in the name. I 
 presume this is normal behaviour. If so, then what is the additional 
 value of the + mark?

The value isn't huge, but it does provide some consistency and a bit 
more visual clarity. It's easier to overlook an extra character at the 
end of the folder name than it is to overlook that plus symbol. Also, 
the character at the end of the folder name varies based on your IMAP 
server's settings and the value of $imap_delim_chars in your muttrc. 
The + mark is consistent.

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Re: OT: help signing gpg key

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Monday, January 19 at 03:21 PM, quoth ssiza...@gmail.com:
 So I've gotten around to generating my own personal GPG key and 
 signing every mail with it. Problem is, I don't know anyone with gpg 
 or pgp, and want my key to be signed. If I understand correctly, this 
 should be done face to face? Or can someone on this list do it? I'm 
 fairly new to all of this and don't really know where to start.

For the best security, it should generally be done face-to-face. The 
way this often works is that some group will hold a key-signing party. 
Find your local Linux Users Group or Unix Users Group; they may have 
something for you.

But if you can't get it signed, don't worry about it. It's still 
usable.

~Kyle
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mutt + offlineimap

2009-01-19 Thread sigi
Hi, 

some days ago I tried to configure mutt with offlineimap on my local 
machine. I followed the instructions on the offlineimap-website, but I'm 
still not sure, why someone would change all to this. The only 
advantage of offlineimap seems to be having a local copy of my mails. 

But: I can't see, how many mails there are in the maildirs, or am I 
wrong? 

With my old config, I had a mixture of local mbox-files and 
remote-maildir-folders, I edited directly within mutt. It looked like 
this in the folder browser: 

user 8,2M Jan 12 23:27=mbox1
user  76K Jan 14 16:43=mbox2
user  39M Jan 09 23:34=mbox3
5 5 imaps://u...@imap.server.tld/folder1
3 3 imaps://u...@imap.server.tld/folder2

So, I was able to see, how many new messages there are, and the mboxes 
are signed with 'N' instantly, when fetchmail delivers new mail to 
them.

With offlineimap it looks like this:

user 4,0K Jan 17 19:16=server/folder1/
user 4,0K Jan 17 19:16=server/folder2/

My problem: There is no sign, how many new mails there are - and the 
timestamp is not updated, when new mails arrive. In addition, the 
Maildirs are not marked instantly with N, when new mails arrive, only if 
I type 'c' or so. (So the 'beep' when new mails arrived is missing, too)

With my fetchmail+mutt-config I had specified all mailboxes directly 
like: 
set folder=~/mail 
set mbox=+mbox   
mailboxes ! /var/mail/user
mailboxes /home/user/mail/inbox +mbox1 +mbox2 +mbox3
mailboxes {u...@imap.server.tld/ssl}INBOX
mailboxes {u...@imap.server.tld/ssl}folder1
mailboxes {u...@imap.server.tld/ssl}folder2

my new muttrc looks like: 

set mbox_type=Maildir
set folder=$HOME/Maildir
set mbox=~/Maildir
source ~/Maildir/muttrc.mailboxes
set spoolfile=+server/INBOX

and ~/Maildir/muttrc.mailboxes:
mailboxes +server/Drafts +server/INBOX +server/folder1
which is automatically generated by offlineimap

Do you have the same configuration? How can I make it visible, how many 
(new) mails there are in each Maildir with offlineimap? And why aren't 
mailboxes flagged with N instantly when new mails arrive with 
offlineimaps autorefresh-option?

I hope, I could make my problems clear. If there's no solution for this, 
I think I'd mirror my Maildirs with offlineimap by hand, but use the old 
fetchmail+procmail+mutt combination.

Best regards, 
sigi






Re: OT: help signing gpg key

2009-01-19 Thread Alexander Dahl
Hi,

 So I've gotten around to generating my own personal GPG key and
 signing every mail with it. Problem is, I don't know anyone with gpg
 or pgp, and want my key to be signed. If I understand correctly, this
 should be done face to face? Or can someone on this list do it? I'm
 fairly new to all of this and don't really know where to start.

Kyle already mentioned local groups and I can recommend that too.

Short additional information: the signing itself is done by everyone by
himself at home but the verification of identity and fingerprints should
be face2face! I tried to find some information on the GnuPG site, but
the manual is not very detailed in this topic, so try your luck with the
keysigning party howto, at least the part about the why:
http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html

I assume there is lot of additional information especially for beginners
on the web, just try the search engine of your choice. ;-)

Greets
Alex

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Re: Finding messages from one person replied to by another?

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 19 Jan 2009 15:45 +0100, by neonoe123...@gmail.com (Alexandre):
 In fact, i would like to have only one macro which search via mairix and
 which load the search results after.

AFAIK you cannot, but a workaround could be to change to the results
folder first, and let mutt's mailbox change detection code do its job.

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Re: Finding messages from one person replied to by another?

2009-01-19 Thread Christian Ebert
* Alexandre on Monday, January 19, 2009 at 15:45:16 +0100
 i am using mairix and would like to improve a mutt macro:
 
 # Mairix
 macro generic f shell-escapemairix  search via mairix
 # Load the results mailbox
 macro generic ,f change-folderkill-line=xmairixenter load the search 
 results mailbox
 
 In fact, i would like to have only one macro which search via mairix and
 which load the search results after.
 
 Do you have any idea how i could do that?

I have the following in muttrc:


macro index,pager ,m \
enter-command set my_wait_key=\$wait_key wait_key=noenter\
shell-escape mutt/mairixquery.shenter\
enter-command set wait_key=\$my_wait_key my_wait_keyenter\
change-folder+Special/_mairixenter mairix query

macro browser ,m \
enter-command set my_wait_key=\$wait_key wait_key=noenter\
shell-escape mairixquery.shenter\
enter-command set wait_key=\$my_wait_key my_wait_keyenter\
exitchange-folder+Special/_mairixenter mairix query


And mairixquery.sh looks like so:


#!/bin/sh

threads=
augment=

yorn()
{
local ans
printf $1 (yes/[no]) 
read -e ans
case $ans in
y*|Y*) return 0;;
*) return 1;;
esac
}

printf Enter mairix query:\n
read -e query
[ -n $query ] || exit 0
yorn Retrieve thread(s)?  threads=--threads
yorn Append message(s) to mfolder?  augment=--augment

mairix $threads $augment $query


The biggest shortcoming is that when you cancel, mutt still opens
the mairix mailbox. But perhaps some of the gurus here have a
solution for that.

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Re: OT: help signing gpg key

2009-01-19 Thread ssizarit
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 17:17, Alexander Dahl p...@lespocky.de wrote:
 Hi,

 So I've gotten around to generating my own personal GPG key and
 signing every mail with it. Problem is, I don't know anyone with gpg
 or pgp, and want my key to be signed. If I understand correctly, this
 should be done face to face? Or can someone on this list do it? I'm
 fairly new to all of this and don't really know where to start.

 Kyle already mentioned local groups and I can recommend that too.

 Short additional information: the signing itself is done by everyone by
 himself at home but the verification of identity and fingerprints should
 be face2face! I tried to find some information on the GnuPG site, but
 the manual is not very detailed in this topic, so try your luck with the
 keysigning party howto, at least the part about the why:
 http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html

 I assume there is lot of additional information especially for beginners
 on the web, just try the search engine of your choice. ;-)

Thanks guys, I'll go check that out. If anyone here lives in vienna
(aut) and wants to meet for some intimate key-signing, mail me.

Cheers,
Meli


Re: imap, maildir, folders with both subfolders and messages

2009-01-19 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 19/01/09 08:46 -0600 - Kyle Wheeler:
end of the folder name than it is to overlook that plus symbol. Also, 
the character at the end of the folder name varies based on your IMAP 
server's settings and the value of $imap_delim_chars in your muttrc.  
The + mark is consistent.

Just to make sure I have a correct understanding of your explanation and 
the documentation: the $imap_delim_chars variable just tells mutt what 
it should take as folder delimiter and it doesn't influence it's 
rendering in the folder browser. Right?



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Re: imap, maildir, folders with both subfolders and messages

2009-01-19 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Monday, January 19 at 10:51 PM, quoth Rejo Zenger:
 ++ 19/01/09 08:46 -0600 - Kyle Wheeler:
 end of the folder name than it is to overlook that plus symbol. Also, 
 the character at the end of the folder name varies based on your IMAP 
 server's settings and the value of $imap_delim_chars in your muttrc. 
 The + mark is consistent.

 Just to make sure I have a correct understanding of your explanation and 
 the documentation: the $imap_delim_chars variable just tells mutt what 
 it should take as folder delimiter and it doesn't influence it's 
 rendering in the folder browser. Right?

I'm not sure, but I believe $imap_delim_chars DOES influence the 
rendering in the folder browser. Specifically, I believe mutt 
internally canonicalizes IMAP paths to use whatever the first 
character in $imap_delim_chars happens to be. But I could be wrong, I 
haven't checked the code to make sure.

Does anyone know definitively?

~Kyle
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