default color transparency broken in Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Vance Shipley
Since upgrading to Snow Leopard my colour definitions are
messed up.  Anywhere where I set the colour I use 'default'
for the background colour so that it remains whatever the
current background colour is.  With the upgrade this no
longer works, the background gets set to ANSI white (grey).

For example in my .muttrc file I have:

color error brightred default

Where I a black on white Terminal.app screen the error
will be red on grey.  Using 'default' for the background 
is supposed to leave it set as it was.  In this way, by
just setting foreground colors, the same settings may be
usable with different background colors in Terminal.app
(e.g. white on black).

Apparently this functionality is provided by an extension
to curses provided in ncurses; use_default_colors().  I
aquired the latest source and built it myself, I had been
using macports, and I see that it sets HAVE_USE_DEFAULT_COLORS
and links against Apple's ncurses library.

Has anyone any idea what is wrong here?

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-Vance


Re: default color transparency broken in Snow Leopard

2009-09-09 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Wednesday, September  9 at 07:33 AM, quoth Vance Shipley:
 Since upgrading to Snow Leopard my colour definitions are 
 messed up.  Anywhere where I set the colour I use 'default' 
 for the background colour so that it remains whatever the 
 current background colour is.  With the upgrade this no 
 longer works, the background gets set to ANSI white (grey).

Interesting. I just upgraded to Snow Leopard, and I didn't notice 
anything like that. On the other hand, I use my own termcap 
definitions, so my guess is that that's what's changed for you: the 
Snow Leopard termcap definitions have changed.

What's your TERM setting? I use nsterm-16color for Apple's 
Terminal.app (I modified it slightly to enable the alt-screen feature, 
but that shouldn't be necessary to get the right colors).

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sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the
To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this
list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm
looking for something like Alpine's  A method to send a message to the
entire list (Post).

Not a deal breaker but it would be handy. 

Any help appreciated.

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Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Michael Tatge
* On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 04:00PM -0700 Robert Holtzman (hol...@cox.net) muttered:
 I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the
 To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this
 list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm
 looking for something like Alpine's  A method to send a message to the
 entire list (Post).

Like an alias?

HTH,

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Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-09-09, Robert Holtzman wrote:
 I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the
 To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this
 list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm
 looking for something like Alpine's  A method to send a message to the
 entire list (Post).
 
 Not a deal breaker but it would be handy. 
 
 Any help appreciated.

I filter my incoming mail into a different folder for each mailing
list and I have a folder-hook for each of those folders that binds M
to a macro that begins a message to the current mailing list.


folder-hook .   \
'macro index M middle-page move to the middle of the page'
folder-hook +Incoming/mutt-dev  \
'macro index M mailmutt-dev^M^M mail to list'
folder-hook +Incoming/mutt-users\
'macro index M mailmutt-users^M^M   mail to list'


Those ^Ms are actually carets and upper-case Ms, not Ctrl-Ms.  You
could use Return instead.  The first ^M terminates the To: prompt
and the second one terminates the Cc: prompt.  After pressing M, you
are immediately presented with the Subject: prompt.

Regards,
Gary




Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2009-09-09, Gary Johnson wrote:
 On 2009-09-09, Robert Holtzman wrote:
  I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the
  To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this
  list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm
  looking for something like Alpine's  A method to send a message to the
  entire list (Post).
  
  Not a deal breaker but it would be handy. 
  
  Any help appreciated.
 
 I filter my incoming mail into a different folder for each mailing
 list and I have a folder-hook for each of those folders that binds M
 to a macro that begins a message to the current mailing list.
 
 
 folder-hook .   \
 'macro index M middle-page move to the middle of the page'
 folder-hook +Incoming/mutt-dev  \
 'macro index M mailmutt-dev^M^M mail to list'
 folder-hook +Incoming/mutt-users\
 'macro index M mailmutt-users^M^M   mail to list'
 
 
 Those ^Ms are actually carets and upper-case Ms, not Ctrl-Ms.  You
 could use Return instead.  The first ^M terminates the To: prompt
 and the second one terminates the Cc: prompt.  After pressing M, you
 are immediately presented with the Subject: prompt.

Michael's reply reminded me of an important detail I omitted:  I
also have aliases for all the mailing list addresses, e.g.,

alias mutt-devmutt-...@mutt.org
alias mutt-users  mutt-users@mutt.org

Regards,
Gary




Re: sending new message to a list

2009-09-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net [09-09-09 19:00]:
 I can't find a way to compose *new* mail to a list without entering the
 To: address manually. Tried running searches, the manual, and this
 list's archives to no avail. Maybe I'm using the wrong search terms. I'm
 looking for something like Alpine's  A method to send a message to the
 entire list (Post).

List reply to any list message changing the subject and deleting two
header lines:
  References:
  In-Reply-To:

and you will be fine, but there are *many* ways  :^).

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