Re: intermittant hesitation after key strokes
* Robert Holtzman on Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 23:40:04 -0700 The only reason I'm running the sidebar is that I'm used to pine/alpine where the mailbox list is a click away. Don't know how the unpatched mutt handles this The mailbox list is just a click away too, albeit not visible at the same time. The distributed system Muttrc contains the following macro and binding: # show the incoming mailboxes list (just like mutt -y) and back when pressing y macro index,pager y change-folder?toggle-mailboxes show incoming mailboxes list bind browser y exit So you'd have at least a poor man's side-bar ;-) c -- Python Mutt utilities --- http://www.blacktrash.org/hg/muttils/
Names in sent folder
Hi! Actual i see in the sent folder my own name in the overview. How can i configure it, that i can see instead the To-address? Thx Alex
Re: Names in sent folder
Hi Alex, * Alex Huth a.h...@tmr.net [13-11-2009 11:03]: Actual i see in the sent folder my own name in the overview. How can i configure it, that i can see instead the To-address? Read the manual on $index_format, most notably the %F sequence. -- René Clerc - (r...@clerc.nl) - PGP: 0x9ACE0AC7 Society has become a laboratory with nobody responsible for the outcome of the experiment. -Ulrich Beck pgpztaECJw1WI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problem with gettext files
Hello to everybody: I'm still learning Mutt (this is my first installation), and I've worked out encoding issues and the likes, particullarly when somebody sends me a gettext po file, enabling me to *see* it with the regular pager. Although it sometimes detects However, now, when I try to *attach* such a file to send it to whatever developers, I get application/x-gettext, base-quoted, and Mutt doesn't autoshow the contents (says it can't), unless I view it in the attachment menu. My locale is en_US.utf8. I have in my .mime.types application/x-gettext po text/x-gettext-translation po as Mutt was detecting the same po format under different names, randomly (as far as I know). Some po files are in iso-5..-15, most in utf8. However, I need mutt to guess correctly the encoding of the file, as I may end up sending some garbled file to the translation lists. When Mutt detects iso...-1 in a received, I get garbled accents in Spanish, therefore, I had to put charset-hook iso-8859-1 iso-8859-15 in .muttrc. I also have set file_charset=utf-8:iso-8859-15:us-ascii set send_charset=utf-8:iso-8859-15:us-ascii set assumed_charset=utf-8 set locale=en_US.utf8 in my .muttrc. May this force a conversion on sent attachments? In case you don't know, a po file is plain text file with some string headers. However, they need to be recognized by their mimetype as po to ensure a correct send. I saw a mail discussing the topic, but it doesn't work for sending po's, yet detects mimetype and encoding of received emails. (Although it sometimes says base64. Let me know if I can provide more information. Thanks in advance! Omar -- Why stop now just when I'm hating it? -- Marvin The Paranoid Android
Re: Names in sent folder
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:19:20AM +0100 René Clerc wrote: Hi Alex, * Alex Huth a.h...@tmr.net [13-11-2009 11:03]: Actual i see in the sent folder my own name in the overview. How can i configure it, that i can see instead the To-address? Read the manual on $index_format, most notably the %F sequence. -- René Clerc - (r...@clerc.nl) - PGP: 0x9ACE0AC7 The default $index_format should already display the recipient's name in your Sent folder, or any folder for that matter, if the message was from you. Perhaps you need to define any additional addresses you send mail from in your muttrc file using the alternates command. This is how mutt knows what addresses are yours. -Kevin -- Le hasard favorise l'esprit préparé. --Louis Pasteur
Re: intermittant hesitation after key strokes
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 09:42:12AM +0100, Christian Ebert wrote: * Robert Holtzman on Thursday, November 12, 2009 at 23:40:04 -0700 The only reason I'm running the sidebar is that I'm used to pine/alpine where the mailbox list is a click away. Don't know how the unpatched mutt handles this The mailbox list is just a click away too, albeit not visible at the same time. The distributed system Muttrc contains the following macro and binding: # show the incoming mailboxes list (just like mutt -y) and back when pressing y macro index,pager y change-folder?toggle-mailboxes show incoming mailboxes list bind browser y exit So you'd have at least a poor man's side-bar ;-) c -- Python Mutt utilities --- http://www.blacktrash.org/hg/muttils/ Thanks. I'll try it. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Names in sent folder
Even when i comment my index_format line there is no change in the index of the sent folder. I have only one address ia m sending from. How can i use different index_format for different folders? * Kevin Kammer schrieb: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:19:20AM +0100 René Clerc wrote: Hi Alex, * Alex Huth a.h...@tmr.net [13-11-2009 11:03]: Actual i see in the sent folder my own name in the overview. How can i configure it, that i can see instead the To-address? Read the manual on $index_format, most notably the %F sequence. -- René Clerc - (r...@clerc.nl) - PGP: 0x9ACE0AC7 The default $index_format should already display the recipient's name in your Sent folder, or any folder for that matter, if the message was from you. Perhaps you need to define any additional addresses you send mail from in your muttrc file using the alternates command. This is how mutt knows what addresses are yours. -Kevin -- Le hasard favorise l'esprit préparé. --Louis Pasteur
Re: Names in sent folder
* Alex Huth a.h...@tmr.net [11-13-09 12:29]: Even when i comment my index_format line there is no change in the index of the sent folder. I have only one address ia m sending from. How can i use different index_format for different folders? read the manual on folder_hooks :^) please trim your replies, tks. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org
Re: intermittant hesitation after key strokes
On Thursday, November 12 at 11:40 PM, quoth Robert Holtzman: The only reason I'm running the sidebar is that I'm used to pine/alpine where the mailbox list is a click away. Understood. Personally, I find the mailbox list rather annoying. I have lots of rarely-used mailboxes (for grouping messages about subjects that I rarely talk about, or mailing lists that I monitor and only check up on once or twice a week) that usually end up cluttering up such interfaces. I like that in mutt I can simply use tab-completion to navigate to my folders. (You *can* get a list of folders... but you aren't forced to use it if you don't want to.) Educate me (as if you haven't been doing that so far). Why ick? Well, this comes up every so often, so I'll copy what I've said before about it. Mainly, I quoted one of the guiding lights of mutt development (and the man to whom mutt 1.6 will probably be dedicated), Rocco Rutte, who wrote (http://marc.info/?l=mutt-devm=112133798519807w=2): For example, the sidebar patch available for mutt looks to work at first sight but there're many things just heavily broken or things you really don't want to stay in the code (like using snprintf() and strlen() to calculate the amount of digits of a number.) The sidebar patch is much larger than it needs to be, and affects large portions of the mutt codebase that have nothing to do with showing a sidebar (for example, if memory serves, the sidebar patch changes mbox handling in some weird way). Generally speaking, despite its popularity and its apparent continued development, the developers of the sidebar patch do not maintain a presence on this mailing list, do not have their own mailing list, and (to my knowledge) do not provide any kind of support for either users of their patch or for people interested in cleaning it up such that it might become palatable to the mainline mutt developers. And just so you know, Rocco's complaints are still valid. Check out this example function from the current sidebar patch (published July 19th, 2009): static int quick_log10(int n) { char string[32]; sprintf(string, %d, n); return strlen(string); } Just because I was curious, I actually compared this quick version of log10 to the real log10 (with the attached small program). Turns out calculating log10 the quick way is an order of magnitude slower than doing it the usual way. Doesn't that just scream this programmer knows what they're doing? So... now you know why I say ick. ~Kyle -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso #include string.h #include stdlib.h #include stdio.h #include sys/time.h #include math.h int quick_log10(int n) { char string[32]; sprintf(string, %d, n); return strlen(string); } int main() { int count, i; const int max = 10; struct timeval start, stop; int logsum = 0; int *numbers; numbers = malloc(max * sizeof(int)); for (count=0; countmax; count++) { numbers[count] = random(); } gettimeofday(start,NULL); for (i=0; i10; i++) { for (count=0; countmax; count++) { logsum += log10(numbers[count]); } } gettimeofday(stop, NULL); printf(math.h(%i): %f seconds\n, logsum, (stop.tv_sec + stop.tv_usec*1e-6) - (start.tv_sec + start.tv_usec*1e-6)); logsum = 0; gettimeofday(start,NULL); for (i=0; i10; i++) { for (count=0; countmax; count++) { logsum += quick_log10(numbers[count]); } } gettimeofday(stop, NULL); printf(sidebar(%i): %f seconds\n, logsum, (stop.tv_sec + stop.tv_usec*1e-6) - (start.tv_sec + start.tv_usec*1e-6)); return 0; } pgpbAw6xhSUv3.pgp Description: PGP signature