Time Format

2013-02-14 Thread Konrad Vrba
Hello,

could somebody please advise how I can change the default time format,
which is displayed when I view my messages? At the moment, I see only
Month and day (ie, Aug 21). But I would like to see the year aswell,
as I am using mutt for reading through old archive of maildir, which
goes several years back.

I have tried SHIFT+? for help, but that did not get me very far. I am
new to mutt, I come from Alpine.

I would very much appreciate your help.

Konrad


Re: Time Format

2013-02-14 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 02:14:35PM +0100, Konrad Vrba wrote:
 Hello,
 
 could somebody please advise how I can change the default time format,
 which is displayed when I view my messages? At the moment, I see only
 Month and day (ie, Aug 21). But I would like to see the year aswell,
 as I am using mutt for reading through old archive of maildir, which
 goes several years back.

Do you mean the timestamp in the index view (when you enter a mailbox)?
If so, look at $index_format in the manual.  You can specify display the
sender's time using %{fmt} where fmt is an strftime format string.

There is also a variable $date_format, but I'm not sure what it does.

Hope this helps,

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Suvayu

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Re: Time Format

2013-02-14 Thread christoph
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 04:00:05PM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 02:14:35PM +0100, Konrad Vrba wrote:
  Hello,
  
  could somebody please advise how I can change the default time format,
  which is displayed when I view my messages? At the moment, I see only
  Month and day (ie, Aug 21). But I would like to see the year aswell,
  as I am using mutt for reading through old archive of maildir, which
  goes several years back.
 
 Do you mean the timestamp in the index view (when you enter a mailbox)?
 If so, look at $index_format in the manual.  You can specify display the
 sender's time using %{fmt} where fmt is an strftime format string.

I have this index_format:
  set index_format=%Z %{%e.%m.%y %H:%M}  %-15.15F %s
which translates to lines like this one:
  L 14.02.13 14:14  Konrad Vrba Time Format

Hope this helps,
  christoph

 
 There is also a variable $date_format, but I'm not sure what it does.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 -- 
 Suvayu
 
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Re: Time Format

2013-02-14 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Konrad Vrba:
 
 could somebody please advise how I can change the default time format,
 which is displayed when I view my messages? At the moment, I see only
 Month and day (ie, Aug 21). But I would like to see the year aswell,

I use:

   set index_format=%4C %Z %-15.15F %{%d%b%y} (%4l) %s

which translates to DDMMMYY.


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Re: Time Format

2013-02-14 Thread Konrad Vrba
fantastic, that is exactly what I was looking for

many thanks

On 2/14/13, christoph christ...@kluenter.de wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 04:00:05PM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 02:14:35PM +0100, Konrad Vrba wrote:
  Hello,
 
  could somebody please advise how I can change the default time format,
  which is displayed when I view my messages? At the moment, I see only
  Month and day (ie, Aug 21). But I would like to see the year aswell,
  as I am using mutt for reading through old archive of maildir, which
  goes several years back.

 Do you mean the timestamp in the index view (when you enter a mailbox)?
 If so, look at $index_format in the manual.  You can specify display the
 sender's time using %{fmt} where fmt is an strftime format string.

 I have this index_format:
   set index_format=%Z %{%e.%m.%y %H:%M}  %-15.15F %s
 which translates to lines like this one:
   L 14.02.13 14:14  Konrad Vrba Time Format

 Hope this helps,
   christoph


 There is also a variable $date_format, but I'm not sure what it does.

 Hope this helps,

 --
 Suvayu

 Open source is the future. It sets us free.

 --



Re: Time Format

2013-02-14 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Konrad Vrba:
 On 2/14/13, christoph christ...@kluenter.de wrote:
 
  I have this index_format:
set index_format=%Z %{%e.%m.%y %H:%M}  %-15.15F %s
  which translates to lines like this one:
L 14.02.13 14:14  Konrad Vrba Time Format
 
 fantastic, that is exactly what I was looking for

Better:

   set index_format=%Z %{%y.%m.%e %H:%M}  %-15.15F %s

ISO-8601 compliant.  :-)

Thanks guys.


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colorize mails from different mailing lists

2013-02-14 Thread dexter
how can i colorize 'subject' line from different mailing lists
in index.

-dexter


Re: Time Format

2013-02-14 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2013-02-14, s. keeling wrote:
 Incoming from Konrad Vrba:
  On 2/14/13, christoph wrote:
  
   I have this index_format:
 set index_format=%Z %{%e.%m.%y %H:%M}  %-15.15F %s
   which translates to lines like this one:
 L 14.02.13 14:14  Konrad Vrba Time Format
  
  fantastic, that is exactly what I was looking for
 
 Better:
 
set index_format=%Z %{%y.%m.%e %H:%M}  %-15.15F %s
 
 ISO-8601 compliant.  :-)

The ISO-8601 date separator is a hyphen, not a period.

Regards,
Gary



Re: colorize mails from different mailing lists

2013-02-14 Thread Michael Elkins

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:06:01PM +0530, dexter wrote:

how can i colorize 'subject' line from different mailing lists
in index.


It is not possible to color only the subject part of the line 
differently, but you can change the color of the entire line 
itself with color index   For example:


# color mail to mutt-users
color index yellow default '~C mutt-users'


Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Alexander Dahl wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Agreed.  However Mailman has an option that is often (ab)used.
  
Filter out duplicate messages to list members (if possible)
  
  In which case if you are subscribed to the mailing list and someone
  posts to the mailing list and also either To: or Cc: your subscribed
  address then Mailman does not mail you a mailing list copy.  Argh!  I
  always uncheck that when I have control of a mailing list.  But others
  tend to check it.
 
 We set this default yes (aka avoid) on all our mailing lists now.

And I always turn it off on every list I touch.

 This is exactly the problem: if you have unexperienced or uninterested
 users you want them to have an easy user interface. Teaching them to
 hit reply if they want to answer just to the poster and reply to all
 for answering all (aka the list) is difficult enough,

But dumbing things down also causes problems.  People should learn
some social graces.  Email is one of the basic forms of communication
in our new electronic world.  I think this facade does them no favors.

But mostly because it means that:

1. I will get a copy without the mailing list List-* headers.
   + list-reply own't work reliably.
   + Mail filing won't work reliably.

2. If my site rejects their direct reply, such as it coming from a
   dynamic IP address range, then I won't ever get either message.
   The mailing list has no way to know that I did not get a direct reply.
   The mailing list may have whitelisted them however.  I would
   normally receive all mailing list messages because I will have
   whitelisted the mailing list.

3. Most of them will simply have done a private reply anyway and won't
   have included the mailing list.

4. I am sure there are other reasons too.  It is late for me and I can
   only say that it feels very wrong.

 even though this does not break with the thing you do with mail to
 multiple receivers without mailinglists. If you don't have the
 avoid box checked in mailman those people get duplicate messages
 and that's what you do not want, because this ends in discussions
 about their MUAs and then you are screwed anyway.

I dream of a world where MUAs did The Right Thing.  Like mutt! :-)

Bob


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