Re: unbind (all) key bindings
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 01:41:55PM +, Martin Orwin wrote:
I understand your concerns about this but I don't think you'll find it a
problem in the long run. I occasionally hit the wrong key and there is
always a way of undoing what I've done (aside from saying 'no' when Mutt
actually asks me if I really want to do something, which personally I like).
Shift-W let's me unclear a flag I've accidentally set and ctrl-c ('do you
want to exit mutt?') gets me out of any other situation (just remember to
type n(o) when it asks). There will be other more sophisticated ways of
getting out of certain situations, but for me these two work and are enough.
As to all the other key-bound functions, it doesn't matter that you don't use
them. It's a big tool box and over the time I've used Mutt I've learned to
use some of the tools when I've felt the need to do something (limit patterns
for example). I think you might be throwing the baby out with the bathwater
if you disable all the keybindings as then you may need to work out how to
reinstate some function or other when you feel the need to use it.
I'd say stick with Mutt as it is, I did, and in a few weeks time I think
you'll find that the keybinding thing is a non-issue. Just my thoughts.
Whatever you choose to do, once you get used to it, it's the best email
client out there IMHO (apart from when I get those pesky complex html
messages and have to use the Gmail web interface!).
I notice you are using mutt as the MUA. How did you manage to screw up
this post so badly?
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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing. --- Malcolm X
Re: unbind (all) key bindings
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:31:14AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 01:41:55PM +, Martin Orwin wrote:
I understand your concerns about this but I don't think you'll find it a
problem in the long run. I occasionally hit the wrong key and there is
always a way of undoing what I've done (aside from saying 'no' when Mutt
actually asks me if I really want to do something, which personally I
like). Shift-W let's me unclear a flag I've accidentally set and ctrl-c
('do you want to exit mutt?') gets me out of any other situation (just
remember to type n(o) when it asks). There will be other more
sophisticated ways of getting out of certain situations, but for me these
two work and are enough. As to all the other key-bound functions, it
doesn't matter that you don't use them. It's a big tool box and over the
time I've used Mutt I've learned to use some of the tools when I've felt
the need to do something (limit patterns for example). I think you might be
throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you disable all the keybindings
as then you may need to work out how to reinstate some function or other
when you feel the need to use it.
I'd say stick with Mutt as it is, I did, and in a few weeks time I think
you'll find that the keybinding thing is a non-issue. Just my thoughts.
Whatever you choose to do, once you get used to it, it's the best email
client out there IMHO (apart from when I get those pesky complex html
messages and have to use the Gmail web interface!).
I notice you are using mutt as the MUA. How did you manage to screw up
this post so badly?
I see my error. Apologies. I'm not sure how that happened.
Re: unbind (all) key bindings
* On 25 Nov 2013, Martin Vegter wrote: I would like to unbind all key bindings, so that I can explicitly define only those, that I am actually going to use. While googling, I have discovered that I am not the only one having this problem. There even seems to be a patch called unbind: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt/#unbind but only for version 1.4 and 1.5.1. I am using mutt version 1.5.21-6.2+deb7u1, so I am not sure if that would work. Hi Martin - I think the other responses on this thread are appropriate, and you should consider whether you really want to unbind everything. That said, as the author of the unbind patch that you cited: no, it won't work with a current mutt. It's very out of date. I took some time to update and improve the patch and you'll find the result here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.devel/21157 (For anyone familiar with the unbind saga and its intricacies, this patch finally does a real unbind, not a bind to noop.) -- David Champion • d...@bikeshed.us
