Re: Corruption still there (was: Re: [Announce] Mutt-1.2.2 is out.)
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 01:52:05PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-06-21 13:37:45 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > > > *sigh* I hoped to have that one fixed. At least, it > > appeared to be from my own tests. > > Please try the attached patch. The error I made was > incredibly stupid. Well the error appears to be gone. Tried thesame thing on my mailbox again and this time it left a mailbox with the right number of msgs deleted. Soo. I believe it's time to release mutt 1.2.3 8) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Corruption still there (was: Re: [Announce] Mutt-1.2.2 is out.)
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 01:37:45PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-06-21 21:13:10 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > Bug still there. > > *sigh* I hoped to have that one fixed. At least, it > appeared to be from my own tests. > > Just a question: Did mutt leave any temporary files behind > which could be used to reconstruct the mail folder? Not that ls -lat shows. Going to try the patch int he other message now. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Corruption still there (was: Re: [Announce] Mutt-1.2.2 is out.)
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 11:57:40AM +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-06-21 00:51:05 -0400, David T-G wrote: > > ...and then Thomas Roessler said... > > % Mutt-1.2.2 is on its way to the FTP archive under > > > > Woo hoo! Thanks! > > > > Um, when did 1.2.1 come out? I've had my eyes peeled for the > > announcement for quite a while now... > > Me2. Me3. Just tested it out too. Procedure: backup mailbox to /tmp fill /tmp to ~4meg go to bottom of mailbox and then select 4 msgs for deletion near it quit once, spot the error msg about /tmp being full quit 2 more times, each time getting the msg free up space in /tmp to ~70meg quit from mutt, telling it to delete the msgs restart mutt on the same mailbox and find the following discrepancy Before: ---Mutt: damien.2 [Msgs:6477 New:602 Old:4870 53M]---(date/date)- After: ---Mutt: /var/spool/mail/damien [Msgs:6417 Old:5469 52M]---(reverse-m Bug still there. Compilation environment: libc 2.1.3 egcs-1.1.2 (the versions I initially complained about were compiled with gcc 2.95.2) binutils 2.9.5.0.42 ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-ssl -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Why mutt is the best mail program?
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 09:47:33PM +0200, Martynas Kriauciunas wrote: > Hello, > In my pop3 server is installed Pine and Mailx. I asked administrator to > install Mutt too, but he asked me to tell some things what mutt can do that > other mail programs can't (Pine or Mailx). Now I'm asking You. Unless I'm mistaken, pine loads the entire mailbox into memory while mutt only loads in the headers, thereby making it friendlier in a multiuser environment. I'd wait for 1.2.1 before getting it installed tho due to a bug that's getting squished. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Results of corruption test on 1.2 (was: Re: mailbox corruption and mutt)
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 09:17:48AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-06-12 15:46:03 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > Which version of mutt should I try to see if I can > > reporduce this? I've noticed there have been > > official-looking patches about and wanna see if I can > > get this to happen again. > > I think we have already been reproducing what you > describe, and there are some patches already. So, with Yup. Saw the thread. > some luck, there'll be a sane 1.2.1 during this week. Grooovy. > Anyway, thanks for your help. No worries. Sorry about not providing more details but RL thwacked me during the week. :/ -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Results of corruption test on 1.2 (was: Re: mailbox corruption and mutt)
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 11:53:51PM +1000, CaT wrote: > On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 11:43:22AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > > On 2000-06-05 10:29:16 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > > > Before attempt: > > > > > -%-Mutt: /tmp/damien.work [Msgs:5492 New:12 Old:1176 Post:1 36M]---(reverse- > > > > > After attempt: > > > > > ---Mutt: /var/spool/mail/damien.work [Msgs:5038 New:9 Old:1074 Post:1 34M]-- > > > > What precisely did happen between these two versions of > > the mail folder? Please be a little bit more precise. ;-) > > Hehe. I'll try tomorrow with a step by step list of what I did > and what happened (well as close to this as I can get :). ATM > I'm dead tired. Bah. Didn't find the time last week. Sorry. 8( Which version of mutt should I try to see if I can reporduce this? I've noticed there have been official-looking patches about and wanna see if I can get this to happen again. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 08:18:56PM +0200, clemensF wrote: > > CaT: > > > Local filesystem for all mailboxes. and erm.. disjunct? > > sorry, i could not find the word and threw in what came up. i mean, can > you guarante that no links, chrooted environments or whatever make > different mailboxes undifferent, i.e. the same file? Ahh. Yes. They're all very different and are seperated out by procmail. Each one has a different intended purpose and all have an inode count of 1. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Gzip Mailboxes
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 12:08:53AM -0400, David T-G wrote: > To open a compressed mailbox, you have to decompress it, right? So the > open-hook command tells mutt to unzip (gzip -d) to stdout (-c) from %f > (the actual folder file) to %t (the temp file); mutt is smart enough to > then look at the temp file. Does this mean mutt qould keep a decompressed copy of the mailbox about while it was opened? Or does it keep the decompressed mailbox about just when scanning for headers or does it just pipe the decompressed mailbox and not care for temp files with it in? -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Results of corruption test on 1.2 (was: Re: mailbox corruption and mutt)
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 11:43:22AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-06-05 10:29:16 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > Before attempt: > > > -%-Mutt: /tmp/damien.work [Msgs:5492 New:12 Old:1176 Post:1 36M]---(reverse- > > > After attempt: > > > ---Mutt: /var/spool/mail/damien.work [Msgs:5038 New:9 Old:1074 Post:1 34M]-- > > What precisely did happen between these two versions of > the mail folder? Please be a little bit more precise. ;-) Hehe. I'll try tomorrow with a step by step list of what I did and what happened (well as close to this as I can get :). ATM I'm dead tired. > > I had both /tmp and /var/spool/mail filled up. I > > selected two msgs for deletion as well as read one > > document. It would not let me quit. > > This almost sounds like reasonable behaviour, as it sounds > like mutt had detected that it couldn't commit the changes > to the mail folder. Yup. But something wrong happened to it's internal picture of the mailbox I think. > Were there any messages about preserved temporary files? Nope. it counted up as it was parsing the maiblox during the save and then whammo, no status message at the bottom and the quit failed. I THINK though that something akin to a status message MAY have flashed instantaneously before my eyes though. > When a folder can't be written back, a temporary file > containing the folder which should have been written > should be left in $TMPDIR. None was left in /tmp and $TMPDIR is not set on my system. I just size sorted the contents and there was nothing there. the youngest tmp file left by mutt was from May 25 and is about 9k in size. It's contents is weird though: Status: O Content-Length: 118 Lines: 4 Status: O Content-Length: 196 Lines: 15 Status: O Content-Length: 1668 Lines: 47 Status: O Content-Length: 149886 Lines: 3372 Status: O Content-Length: 0 Lines: 0 Status: O Content-Length: 0 Lines: 0 Status: O Content-Length: 0 Lines: 0 etc... The file name is: /tmp/mutt.damien-nessie-263 -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Results of corruption test on 1.2 (was: Re: mailbox corruption and mutt)
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 07:29:53PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sun, 04 Jun 2000: > > Ok.. NOW I'm using 1.2. Grr. Compiled 1.2, went to play > > with my bros on their nintendo, came back and forgot I > > didn't install :) > > And the result of trying to re-create the problem with 1.2 is ..? Before attempt: -%-Mutt: /tmp/damien.work [Msgs:5492 New:12 Old:1176 Post:1 36M]---(reverse- After attempt: ---Mutt: /var/spool/mail/damien.work [Msgs:5038 New:9 Old:1074 Post:1 34M]-- I had both /tmp and /var/spool/mail filled up. I selected two msgs for deletion as well as read one document. It would not let me quit. I trie dit multiple times. I freed up space on /var/spool/mail so that it has 160meg free and it still would not let me quit. I freed up space on /tmp so that it has 92meg free and it let me quit. 8( -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 09:52:48PM +0200, clemensF wrote: > > CaT: > > > I'm using several mutts but they're all on a different mailbox. > > mailboxes accessed by some nfs? really every mailbox disjunct? Local filesystem for all mailboxes. and erm.. disjunct? -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 11:08:57AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-06-04 16:32:44 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > for example this is one message in the mailbox that is > > currupt. Not that it consists of virtually missing > > headers and that it is two messages concatenated into > > one. And even then the message bodies are incomplete > > and the body of the first message does not belong to > > the mailing list the From_ field says it does. That > > body belongs with completly different messages. > > This sounds quite fascinating, and certainly should not > happen. > > However, I believe I put some more paranoia code for > out-of-space conditions into 1.2, so it would be really > nice if you could upgrade to that version and reproduce > the bug there. You may even have chances that someone > will fix the problem for you when it's in that code base. > http://www.guug.de/~roessler/ Ok.. NOW I'm using 1.2. Grr. Compiled 1.2, went to play with my bros on their nintendo, came back and forgot I didn't install :) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 11:08:57AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-06-04 16:32:44 +1000, CaT wrote: > > > for example this is one message in the mailbox that is > > currupt. Not that it consists of virtually missing > > headers and that it is two messages concatenated into > > one. And even then the message bodies are incomplete > > and the body of the first message does not belong to > > the mailing list the From_ field says it does. That > > body belongs with completly different messages. > > This sounds quite fascinating, and certainly should not > happen. Agreed. :) > However, I believe I put some more paranoia code for > out-of-space conditions into 1.2, so it would be really > nice if you could upgrade to that version and reproduce > the bug there. You may even have chances that someone > will fix the problem for you when it's in that code base. Well if you check my X-Mailer header now... :) Just upgraded to 1.2. :) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 11:19:46AM +0200, clemensF wrote: > are you using several mutt windows in a gui or mbox formatted mailboxes > without locked access? I'm using several mutts but they're all on a different mailbox. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 12:38:35PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > CaT proclaimed on mutt-users that: > > >Ok. Not to be faceatous(sp?) or anything... just being curious :) What > >will this prove/solve/whatnot? I may have missed out on a bit of info > >in that, from memory, if I clear /tmp then it eventually safes (albeit > >in an icky corrupted manner). > > > >Anyways, just trying to find out why I may be about to do something :) > > ---end quote--- > > I'm betting that this crashing is because your maildir is running out of > space, or your tmpdir is full of junk that needs to be cleared. It'd be /tmp from memory. This needs to be solved because it makes mutt potentially painful in a multi-user environment. For eg: User A runs mutt with a big mailbox User B runs an app that just filled up /tmp to near capacity User A tries to quit mutt. Waits patiently, putt gets to 99% and then fails silently. User B's usage of /tmp deminishes to sane levels User A goes 'Hrm. Bloody Heck' and tries again. This time mutt succeeds and overwrites his mailbox with a corrupt version User A comes back later on to find half his mailbox fragged and curses the name of mutt. User B parties in ignorance. ;) As for /var/spool/mail, it had the room (this is from distantish memory now... it's been a fortnight since I first made my report so I'm anout 98% confident). /tmp was rather closeish to full from memory. (around 30meg free at one time and 11meg at another time). -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 12:13:38PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > CaT proclaimed on mutt-users that: > > >Mutt does corrupt if it cannot recover from this situation without > >corrupting the mailbox. It's not that the mailbox is saved, intact > > It should _not_ find itself in such a situation. Tell you what - move Aye. But it does 8(. > your mailboxes to another partition and create symlinks. > > Something like this (btw, first change to single-user mode by logging in > as su. so nobody else uses the mail program at that time) Ok. Not to be faceatous(sp?) or anything... just being curious :) What will this prove/solve/whatnot? I may have missed out on a bit of info in that, from memory, if I clear /tmp then it eventually safes (albeit in an icky corrupted manner). Anyways, just trying to find out why I may be about to do something :) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 11:49:40AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > CaT proclaimed on mutt-users that: > > >I don't suppose I have a hope in getting any sort of responce to this? > > Let me see .. > > >It is kinda important and I'd be more then happy to help track down the > >problem but at the moment I've gotten SFA responce to it which may mean > >that noone really cares if mutt corrupts mailboxes. > > Short answer - mutt doesn't corrupt mailboxes. You are running out of > disk space, or have a flaky hdd, or your TMPDIR is in the wrong place. Mutt does corrupt if it cannot recover from this situation without corrupting the mailbox. It's not that the mailbox is saved, intact but shorter but rather the individual msg headers are totally rooted for most of the messages when mutt finds it cannot safe the mailbox. I'm not suffering from an amputation of the end of a mailbox. I'm suffering fromt he corruption of mailbox internals.ie the actual individual msgs get turned into bits and pieces. for example this is one message in the mailbox that is currupt. Not that it consists of virtually missing headers and that it is two messages concatenated into one. And even then the message bodies are incomplete and the body of the first message does not belong to the mailing list the From_ field says it does. That body belongs with completly different messages. --- message starts --- >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 18 22:20:35 20 Status: RO Content-Length: 3004 Lines: 31 s On again! And it's not too late to join in!! >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 18 Status: RO Content-Length: 14302 Lines: 434 am unsure why I need an account with you. I guess a technical --- message ends -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
I don't suppose I have a hope in getting any sort of responce to this? It is kinda important and I'd be more then happy to help track down the problem but at the moment I've gotten SFA responce to it which may mean that noone really cares if mutt corrupts mailboxes. On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 09:23:14PM +1000, CaT wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 10:10:07AM +1000, CaT wrote: > > well I just had my mailbox corrupted for the second time by mutt 8( > > > > this happens when I try to quit, mutt finds there's not enough room > > in /tmp and so doesn't let me. What winds up happening is that once > > I do get a chance to quit properly (as opposed to exit) mutt saves > > the mailbox with a large chunk of messages with corrupt headers. :/ > > > > As you can guess, this rather sucks. > > > > Has this been previously reported and fixed? I could try and provide > > more info but I'll need to know what is required. > > > > My system is Linux 2.2.15pre18 (but it's happened with older versions > > previously), glibc 2.1.3 (but it happened with 2.1.2). The mailbox > > is 47meg in size with 7624 msgs. > > Forgot to add that it's Mutt 1.0i (for those who don't look at headers :) > > -- > CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null > > 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' > -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...' -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: mailbox corruption and mutt
On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 10:10:07AM +1000, CaT wrote: > well I just had my mailbox corrupted for the second time by mutt 8( > > this happens when I try to quit, mutt finds there's not enough room > in /tmp and so doesn't let me. What winds up happening is that once > I do get a chance to quit properly (as opposed to exit) mutt saves > the mailbox with a large chunk of messages with corrupt headers. :/ > > As you can guess, this rather sucks. > > Has this been previously reported and fixed? I could try and provide > more info but I'll need to know what is required. > > My system is Linux 2.2.15pre18 (but it's happened with older versions > previously), glibc 2.1.3 (but it happened with 2.1.2). The mailbox > is 47meg in size with 7624 msgs. Forgot to add that it's Mutt 1.0i (for those who don't look at headers :) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
mailbox corruption and mutt
well I just had my mailbox corrupted for the second time by mutt 8( this happens when I try to quit, mutt finds there's not enough room in /tmp and so doesn't let me. What winds up happening is that once I do get a chance to quit properly (as opposed to exit) mutt saves the mailbox with a large chunk of messages with corrupt headers. :/ As you can guess, this rather sucks. Has this been previously reported and fixed? I could try and provide more info but I'll need to know what is required. My system is Linux 2.2.15pre18 (but it's happened with older versions previously), glibc 2.1.3 (but it happened with 2.1.2). The mailbox is 47meg in size with 7624 msgs. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: unable to get mutt_dotlock to work
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 05:26:53PM +1100, Jeremy Lunn wrote: > Hi, > > don't have to have /var/spool/mail world writable. But it doesn't seem > to be working, I get get that error where it says mailbox is read-only. > > Here are the permissions I have: > $ ls -l /var/spool/ > drwxrwxr-t3 root root 1024 Mar 8 16:56 mail > > $ ls -l /usr/bin/mutt_dotlock > -rwxr-sr-x1 root mail 7108 Feb 18 07:54 > /usr/bin/mutt_dotlock > > Are these right? Nope. chgrp mail /var/spool/mail -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Color xterm??
On Sat, Nov 13, 1999 at 10:39:18PM -0500, Subba Rao wrote: > Is color xterm a requirement for mutt's color feature? > I am using Slackware 4. The "ls" command has several color > options, where I see a different color for each file type. > If this xterm works for "ls" with color, then mutt's got to > work too. I have installed ncurses-5.0 and that is not helping > either. > > Any pointers to get colors working... Try: export TERM=exterm-color if using bash. > Subba Rao > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
locking hassle with mutt 1.0
Hi, I'm having weirdo problems with locking and mutt. For some weird reason I can only get dotlocking going. Last version I used was 0.95.6 which did not require it (or at least it didn't produce a mutt_dotlock command and worked with my setup just fine). mutt 1.0 will not work with anything other then dorlocking tho. I tried all sorts of conbos of the two other methods and things only worked when I gave mutt_dotlock permission to write to /var/spool/mail. my system is: gcc 2.95.2, binutils 2.9.5.0.16, glibc 2.1.2, linux 2.2.12 help? :) -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:40:35PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:30:27PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > You're using the unstable branch. That means that, in order to get > > > mail-followup-to set, you have to add the list to the list of > > > subscribed lists. See muttrc (5). > > > > > Is this something in addition to the 'lists' command in my .muttrc? > > The mutt list is already in my muttrc 'lists'. > > > Oops, yes I've found it, thanks! This message should have the > 'Mail-followup-to:', but it *still* hasn't and I do have mutt in the > 'subscribe' list in my .muttrc file. So what now? But it does... unless you mean somewhere else: X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 27 22:42:39 1999 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:40:35 +0100 From: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: bulk -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
