Re: How do you search to: header?
* Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-03-02 12:20]: 03-Apr-02 at 09:08, jennyw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : When I hit ? when it's listing all the messages, it doesn't show l for limit. It does show the key binding for showing the active limit, though. Do I just have a weird version? I'm using the one that's packaged for Debian. Are you looking at the lower case and upper case values? They are different, l and L have different functions. I believe that she is looking at pagerhelp and needs to look at indexhelp. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
tab complete-query with lbdbq
I have the following entries in my .muttrc but am unable to tab complete a partial address (query) in the compose menu. set query_command=lbdbq '%s' # calling lbdbq macro alias Q !lbdbq .lbdb query Why am I unable to query a partial address in the compose menu? -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 10:52pm up 9 days, 6:07, 6 users, load average: 0.09, 0.15, 0.17
Re: tab complete-query with lbdbq
* Gary Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-26-02 23:15]: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:56:09PM -0500, MuttER wrote: I have the following entries in my .muttrc but am unable to tab complete a partial address (query) in the compose menu. set query_command=lbdbq '%s' # calling lbdbq macro alias Q !lbdbq .lbdb query Why am I unable to query a partial address in the compose menu? Other than that an external address query by default is completed with a ^T, not a tab, I don't know. By default, tab is used to complete an alias. Both tab and ^T work for me in the compose menu at the Cc: prompt. I am running mutt-1.2.5 and also use lbdbq. I saw that. BUT, between the basketball cold ones, comprehension is lacking. tks, -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 11:18pm up 9 days, 6:33, 6 users, load average: 0.32, 0.40, 0.35
Re: editors and paragraphs
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-19-02 18:40]: * Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-14 09:27]: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-13 17:40:27 +0100]: Which editors parse for dates? examples? (anyone?) Some people consider emacs to be an editor. oh - that one. , | *** Welcome to IELM *** Type (describe-mode) for help. | ELISP (require 'parse-time) | parse-time | | ELISP (parse-time-string Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:40:27 +0100) | (27 40 17 13 3 2002 3 nil 3600) | | ELISP (parse-time-string 2002-03-13 17:40:27 +0100) | (27 40 17 13 3 2002 nil nil 3600) | | ELISP (parse-time-string 020313 14:17) | (0 17 14 nil nil nil nil nil nil) ` looks like the parsing can still be enhanced. *ehem* Sven Holster your firearm! -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 6:42pm up 2 days, 1:58, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.06, 0.06
Re: howto move maildir msgs from new to cur when read?
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-18-02 13:17]: Anyway, you also probably don't want to sync and then open, and you can't sync from the pager, so what you probably really want to do is make a macro for 'q' (bound to exit in the pager menu) so that you sync after you've opened and read the message. Have fun binding all of the other possible ways to leave a message ;-) Why are YOU unable to sync from the pager. I can. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 1:45pm up 21:01, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.02
Re: speeding up open mailbox
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-17-02 08:31]: This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very large mailboxes. My debian-users mailbox contains some 3500 messages. It takes about 60 seconds to open. Are there any tricks to speed this up, some caching mechanism or something. I'm already using ReiserFS and maildir. Yes: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe And YOU, of course, will never request aid on this list, or present a query someone else thinks is inappropriate/unnecessary. I HOPE. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 8:52am up 2 days, 11:40, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.01
Re: speeding up open mailbox
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-17-02 14:35]: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 06:45:32PM +, Thomas Hurst wrote: 2. Use a maildir caching patch to limit scanning of new messages to operations on a dbm. After a nice walk in the park I've spent the evening patching and compiling mutt. The tricky part was figuring out which packages to install to satisfy the dependencies. The patched version works very nicely. Opening the 3500 messages mailbox took 79 seconds with the prepacked mutt. It takes less then a second with the patched version. Much better than a previous suggestion. Good luck. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 2:36pm up 2 days, 17:24, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
Re: speeding up open mailbox
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-17-02 14:40]: This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patched version works very nicely. Opening the 3500 messages mailbox took 79 seconds with the prepacked mutt. It takes less then a second with the patched version. Guess I was wrong, then; switching to the digest wouldn't have been measurably faster. :-) And I was 2 sec.s late opening my BIG mouth. bg :^) -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 2:41pm up 2 days, 17:29, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
Re: Opening html links in text mail
* Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-16-02 03:51] crowed: On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: -- Simon % On an somewhat related note, I have a mutt icon in PNG format which is the % right size for the bottom panel if KDE users want an icon to automatically % launch Mutt (I use xterm -e mutt) from the panel. Oooh! Gimme! me too :-) Got a lot of altitude on this one. May achieve orbit. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 9:06am up 1 day, 11:54, 6 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.03
Re: system hang, lost mutt function
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-13-02 07:53] crowed: * pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 12:47]: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-12-02 11:23]: right - anyone using sigrot without knowledge about pipes will shoot himself in the foot. ---end quoted text--- Not guilty. Even had to look it up to find out what crime I stood accused. NOT GULTY. *grin* however, your name does not show up in the Fomr: line - and this ---end quoted text--- simply is superfluous! You are a good fisherman. I'll bite. The superfluous and (to pontificate) extraneous addition of ---end quoted text--- is indeed no more necessary that the empty lines above and below your comments. They are an addition of several chars, thou. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 8:01am up 3 days, 14:36, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00
Re: empty lines between paragraphs
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-13-02 08:34] crowed: * MuttER [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 13:05]: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-13-02 07:53] crowed: and this ---end quoted text--- simply is superfluous! You are a good fisherman. I'll bite. The superfluous and (to pontificate) extraneous addition of ---end quoted text--- is indeed no more necessary that the empty lines above and below your comments. They are an addition of several chars, thou. Good point! I could leave out the empty lines, too. But then you will lose the ability to process it with an editor which has extra commands for paragraphs (selection, deletion, jumping over, text reformatting) which are usually delimited by empty lines. I have to admit that I enjoy those extra characters which make empty lines - they make text much more readable. what was your suggestion about enhancing readbility again? By the way, when was the last time you read a book without paragraphs? Besides, crowed is superfluous in attributions, too. PS: Get a real name - MuttER! Sven I should have stayed in the deeper water. Wasn't hungry anyway. I do not know that I have ever read a book without paragraphs. BUT, I have read many books that did not have the paragraphs delineated by blank lines. Many use indentation for delineation. And many editors recognize indentation paragraphing. Argument for the sake of argument. Your point. Many editors would have difficulty recognizing and parsing your date format. My name is in the header and the sig. I receive very little uce/spam and have no filters expressly for rejecting same. Please have the last word. You have game, set and match. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 9:04am up 3 days, 15:39, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.25
Re: system hang - remove signature?
* John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-13-02 10:21] crowed: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:56:42AM -0500, David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: accidentally -- a pipe would do that. Removing your muttrc leaves the only possibility in your /etc/Muttrc, though, which is also quite unlikely. Unless he moved it by just removing the dot, (muttrc), in which case mutt will still find it. :) No, I renamed it ~/XXrcmuttXX. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 2:03pm up 3 days, 20:38, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.05, 0.01
Re: Displaying all mail after a limit command
* Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-02 23:04] crowed: After I used the limit command (l) to find certain emails, I am at a lost for going back to my original view of all the mail. I suppose I could open up the mailbox again, but that seems wrong. ---end quoted text--- use the limit command (l) again with .* (expands limit to ALL). -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 11:09pm up 1 day, 5:45, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.03
system hang, lost mutt function
I had a system hang with xcdroast. SuSE 7.3 pro, uptodate 2.4.10-4GB, i686, kde 2.2.2 mutt 1.3.27i (2002-01-22) Since restarting, trying to post mail from within mutt or the command line, mutt hangs. The rest of mutt's functions, afaict, function properly. I removed mutt, then reinstalled. I removed my personal .muttrc, then replaced it. The only difference I noticed was that without my .muttrc, when I tried to post, mutt accepted the TO:, and then hung after I completed the SUBJECT: line. It would not accept keystroke after enter on the SUBJECT: line. With my .muttrc, mutt hangs when I enter m to begin a post. Just noticed, mutt also hangs when I enter L to post to the mailgroup, status line indicates: Including quoted message... Same thing with g. I can kill mutt with kill pid. This would seem to indicate that the editor was hanging, but the same thing happens when I comment out the editor line in .muttrc. HELP, please pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: system hang, lost mutt function
* Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-09-02 21:03] crowed: * On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 08:30:59PM -0500, * MuttER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since restarting, trying to post mail from within mutt or the command line, mutt hangs. The rest of mutt's functions, afaict, function properly. I removed mutt, then reinstalled. I removed my personal .muttrc, then replaced it. The only difference I noticed was that without my .muttrc, when I tried to post, mutt accepted the TO:, and then hung after I completed the SUBJECT: line. It would not accept keystroke after enter on the SUBJECT: line. With my .muttrc, mutt hangs when I enter m to begin a post. Just noticed, mutt also hangs when I enter L to post to the mailgroup, status line indicates: Including quoted message... Same thing with g. I can kill mutt with kill pid. This would seem to indicate that the editor was hanging, but the same thing happens when I comment out the editor line in .muttrc. What's the output of ps x while mutt is hanging, is the editor started? If you specify $editor on your .muttrc, what's happening if you try to start $editor from the shellprompt? Nicolas ---end quoted text--- Knute, later in this thread solved my problem. The .signature file was missing! tks, -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 9:55pm up 4:31, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.09, 0.10
Re: system hang, lost mutt function
* Knute [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-09-02 21:47] crowed: On Sat, 09 Mar 2002, MuttER wrote: I had a system hang with xcdroast. ,, Not necessarily the editor. When this happened to me, it was a corrupt signature file. A while back I had instaled sigrot, and then thru a whole mess of bad shutdowns by people that know nothing about linux, I had to reinstall root, and lost sigrot. once I created a ~/.signature (actually a ~/.sig/signature) file, everything worked again. It's something to check on anyway. HELP, please I just hope that I have. And you did. Thank-you very much. Missing .signature file was the entire problem and is solved. again, tkx, -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 9:58pm up 4:33, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.08
Re: [OT] Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO
* Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-08-02 19:52] crowed: MuttER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it would mask your problem (`man band-aid`). The real solution is to configure your MTA to use an acceptable argument to the HELO command, or to tell it to forward your mail to your ISP's smarthost. This is possible with sendmail or any other MTA. Where do I 'configure my MTA to use an acceptable argument to the HELO COMMAND ?? If you're running qmail, it's set in the control file helohost. If you're running sendmail, I haven't the foggiest idea, but it's probably buried somewhere in that 1000+ line monstrosity known as sendmail.cf. I am running postfix. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 9:20pm up 19 days, 11:53, 6 users, load average: 0.21, 0.31, 0.23
Re: [OT] Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO
* Knute [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-08-02 21:47] crowed:
On Fri, 08 Mar 2002, Charles Cazabon wrote:
MuttER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, it would mask your problem (`man band-aid`). The real solution is
to configure your MTA to use an acceptable argument to the HELO
command, or to tell it to forward your mail to your ISP's smarthost.
This is possible with sendmail or any other MTA.
Where do I 'configure my MTA to use an acceptable argument to the
HELO COMMAND ??
If you're running qmail, it's set in the control file helohost. If you're
running sendmail, I haven't the foggiest idea, but it's probably buried
somewhere in that 1000+ line monstrosity known as sendmail.cf.
So read the man page for whatever MTA you are using to find out what the
name of the config file is, then you can issue the command (in my case
for exim):
cat /etc/exim/exim.conf |grep helo
It will show you the line and what variable you need to be looking for.
:~ grep -i helo /etc/sendmail.cf
O PrivacyOptions=authwarnings,needmailhelo,novrfy,noexpn,noverb
#O Timeout.helo=5m
# Allow HELO SMTP command that does not include a host name
#O AllowBogusHELO=False
O Milter.macros.helo={tls_version}, {cipher}, {cipher_bits},{cert_subject},
{cert_issuer}
??
--
Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
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9:52pm up 19 days, 12:25, 6 users, load average: 0.03, 0.18, 0.24
Re: Is mutt really handicapped?
* Philip Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-07-02 11:33] crowed: Also, some GUI mail clients allow opening multiple windows to show more than one message at a time. That functionality is useful for when I want to compose a single reply to multiple messages, for example. (In mutt or pine, if I wanted to go look at another message while I'm already writing one, I'd have to postpone it, go look, and come back.) Goodness... Open several xterm windows with mutt and look at all the different msgs you wish. AND, no GUI required, but... a little more manipulation -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 12:29pm up 18 days, 3:02, 7 users, load average: 1.00, 1.07, 1.18
Re: News about Mutt - guckes.net/mutt/news.html
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-06-02 08:25] crowed: I have finally moved all the news items about mutt from my main page about mutt to an extra page. So now you can bookmark it and have NetMind send you an update notice when the page changes. further news welcome, of course. :-) NetMind became a subscription service (PAY) effective 15 Jan 02. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: retrieving IMAP mail
* pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-03-02 08:23] crowed: I signed up for a myrealbox.com account and can access my new account from a browser without a problem (it wants cookie access). But when I try from mutt I get the following errors: mutt -f imap://myid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No authenticators available also, mutt -f imap://imap.myrealbox.com No authenticators available I don't understand?? I will answer my own question. ssl is required at this location. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: gpg signature (was: Folder view - use file mask!)
* John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-05-02 10:25] crowed: report back if it works? I uploaded my key to certserver.pgp.com. I've also successfully retrieved my key from this server. Is this one not in the rotation? Is there some other server I should be using? I have successfully retrieved (almost) everyone else's key from that server as well. Would you mind querying that server directly and see if you get the key? gpg --verbose --keyserver certserver.pgp.com --recv-keys 587F0CD702368857 This is what I get when I run that command: % gpg --verbose --keyserver certserver.pgp.com --recv-keys 587F0CD702368857 gpg: requesting key 02368857 from certserver.pgp.com ... gpg: armor header: Version: PGPsdk 2.0.1 Copyright (C) 2000 Networks Associates Technology, Inc. All rights reserved. gpg: pub 1024D/02368857 2002-02-06 John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: key 02368857: not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 % I also cannot retrieve your key: pat@wahoo:~ gpg --verbose --keyserver certserver.pgp.com --recv-keys \ 587F0CD702368857 gpg: requesting key 02368857 from certserver.pgp.com ... gpg: can't get key from keyserver: eof -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: gpg signature (was: Folder view - use file mask!)
* John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-05-02 11:57] crowed: On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:02:55AM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: Said John Buttery on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 09:24:49AM -0600: gpg --verbose --keyserver certserver.pgp.com --recv-keys 587F0CD702368857 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-..-.-.-.-.-.-.- so the clock is ticking: % gpg --verbose --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --send-keys 587F0CD702368857 titlePublic Key Server -- Add/titlep h1Public Key Server -- Add/h1p pre Key block added to key server database. New public keys added: 1 /pre gpg: success sending to `wwwkeys.us.pgp.net' (status=200) % gpg --verbose --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --send-keys 587F0CD702368857 titlePublic Key Server -- Add/titlep h1Public Key Server -- Add/h1p pre Key block in add request contained no new keys, userid's, or signatures. /pre gpg: success sending to `wwwkeys.us.pgp.net' (status=200) % pat@wahoo:~ gpg --verbose --keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net --recv-keys 587F0CD702368857 gpg: requesting key 02368857 from wwwkeys.us.pgp.net ... gpg: can't get key from keyserver: eof pat@wahoo:~ gpg --verbose --keyserver certserver.pgp.com --recv-keys 587F0CD702368857 gpg: requesting key 02368857 from certserver.pgp.com ... gpg: can't get key from keyserver: eof -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: Deleting text in subject flea
* David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-04-02 15:55] crowed: Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to happen specifically when I have input more than 8 characters, which is usual for filenames with full paths and email addresses. I wonder if you could try running stty -tabs before you start Mutt. That takes care of delete and backspace but not 'home' and 'end' keys?? -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: My Mutt Won't Bark
* Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-03-02 00:54] crowed: Thanks for the suggestion, but I still get he same error message. On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:24:24 -0700 dan radom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you want ... set mbox = ~/Mail/inbox and mailboxes `echo ~/mail/*` Make that 'echo ~/Mail/*' and try again.. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: How to bind esct to pager as it's done to index?
* Holger Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-03-02 02:10] crowed: On Mar 3, Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 09:46:11PM -0500, parv wrote: i am also using 1.3.27i version, but i don't see tag-thread action in help in pager context, only tag-message. are you sure that, by chance you didn't see tag-thread in index context? You are right. esct is not bound to pager by default. And that's why I have to bind it by myself here. :-) It seems you didn't understand parv's comment. The function tag-thread isn't available in the pager. So it is pointless to try to bind a non-existent function to a key... His confusion MAY come from the manual: 2.3.3. Threaded Mode When the mailbox is `sorted'' by threads, there are a few additional functions available in the index and pager modes. D delete-thread delete all messages in the current thread ^U undelete-thread undelete all messages in the current thread ^N next-thread jump to the start of the next thread ^P previous-thread jump to the start of the previous thread ^R read-thread mark the current thread as read ESC d delete-subthreaddelete all messages in the current subthread ESC u undelete-subthread undelete all messages in the current subthread ESC n next-subthread jump to the start of the next subthread ESC p previous-subthread jump to the start of the previous subthread ESC r read-subthread mark the current subthread as read ESC t tag-thread toggle the tag on the current thread NOTICE: above indicates INDEX and PAGER modes.. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: Store and forward?
* Thomas Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-26-02 08:32] crowed: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, David T-G wrote: The short answer to your question is simply that you need to have an MTA that will queue up your mail for shipment when you're next on line. Just about every *NIX comes with sendmail (for better or worse!), and qmail The dreaded sendmail -- I was afraid of that... ;-) Postfix is easier .. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: How does one print a message to the status line?
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:12:30AM -0600, John Buttery wrote: error message I'm wondering how I can print informational messages to the messagebox in mutt. I don't know if this area has a name, but By the way, on a completely unrelated note, does anybody here use joe as their editor? I like it a lot but its idea of word wrap is pretty interesting sometimes. Look at the end of the above paragraph, in fact look at the line right above this. What's up with that? (BTW: here's a copied copy of the above paragraph after using joe's auto-justify function. 72 columns my foot. :) By the way, on a completely unrelated note, does anybody here use joe as their editor? I like it a lot but its idea of word wrap is pretty interesting sometimes. Look at the end of the above paragraph, in fact look at the line right above this. What's up with that? I use joe. I believe that there were some text formatting problems with an earlier version. I'm using 2.8 and have no problems. I like it because of the familiar keystrokes (cpm, windstar, etc). I do wish it had a better macro language thou. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: How does one print a message to the status line?
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:07:35AM -0600, John Buttery wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:31:18AM -0500, MuttER wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:12:30AM -0600, John Buttery wrote: error message I'm wondering how I can print informational messages to the messagebox in mutt. I don't know if this area has a name, but I use joe. I believe that there were some text formatting problems with an earlier version. I'm using 2.8 and have no problems. I like it because of the familiar keystrokes (cpm, windstar, etc). I do wish it had a better macro language thou. Odd...this is 2.9.6. Oh well, not something I can't live with. Maybe I'll try jed and/or nano. Don't like vi's notion of separate command/edit modes so don't want to use it all the time for email editing... I'm blind. I have 2.9.7-1 -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: Getting start with Mutt and IMAP
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 11:53:55AM -0600, William Guynes wrote: I'm trying to get moved over to mutt. I've had it with Pine roles, it's driving me nuts. IMAP implementation has me a bit confused. I have 3 IMAP mailboxes, on 3 diferent servers. If I understand the docs correctly, I can switch between them using the 'c' command inside Mutt. Typing out the imap://servername/INBOX isn't working though. try imap://YourName:YourPass@servername/INBOX or . imap://YourName@servername/INBOX and your password will be requested This will access directly on the host computer your IMAP mail directory as if it was on your local directry. at lease, it worx fer me! -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: mutt and NFS
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:26:22PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two mailboxes. Change to one. Status bar says there is new mail in a folder. Change to it. No new mail. Status bar says there is new mail in a folder. Change to that. No new mail. And again and again. So mutt might not actually say there is new mail in the mailbox, but it just says Inc:1 in the status bar. So it's not losing whatever marker it has for unread mail in a mailbox. Could this help with troubleshooting? ---end quoted text--- check your system time. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: mutt and NFS
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:39:06PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, MuttER wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:26:22PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two mailboxes. Change to one. Status bar says there is new mail in a folder. Change to it. No new mail. Status bar says there is new mail in a folder. Change to that. No new mail. And again and again. So mutt might not actually say there is new mail in the mailbox, but it just says Inc:1 in the status bar. So it's not losing whatever marker it has for unread mail in a mailbox. Could this help with troubleshooting? check your system time. Could it be that the box is in Portland, OR, and I am in NYC, so I set my TZ env variable to EST? That might do it. I'm not that good, just had a similar problem when I was with MD8. Now SuSE 7.3 professional and love it. good luck, maybe someone here more knowledgable will comment. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: rewriting message stautus
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 10:37:34PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: I just now realized that I think you're not trying to colorize or otherwise indicate messages from you, but instead just mark them read. Maybe something like this: folder-hook . push 'T~N~P\n;N\n\ct.\n' Note that this is untested, but what I think I'm trying to do is, upon entering a folder, tag all new messages that were written by me, then toggle their new status, then untag all messages. Whether the above will accomplish that or not is another issue altogether... ;-) - -- [!] Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Won't this result in previously untagged becoming tagged ?? -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: to_chars question
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:31:45AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: Jim Mock wrote: Is there a flag for to_chars to display whether or not the message contains an attachment? I looked through the manual, but don't see one (appears there's only +TCFL). Am I missing something or is there some other way to do this? i use a patch from: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt/#attach that might do what you want. it adds a new variable for index_format to show either message size, or (if there are attachments), the number of attachments. it looks something like this, the way i have it setup: 69 L Dec 25 Philip Mak (1*) Perfect mbox to Maildir converter where '1' is the number of attachments. HTH w ---end quoted text--- This should be considered for incorporation as an included feature/option/whatever. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:50:16PM +0100, Michael Wagner wrote: On Sonntag, 06. Jan. 2002 at 20:53:24, MuttER wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 08:30:05PM +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: mailcap text/html; w3m -T text/html %s /mailcap You could also add a 'copiousoutput' at the end of that, and set auto_view text/html in your muttrc to put w3m's output into your pager. pv. ---end quoted text--- text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html %s; copiousoutput above works well for me (using auto_view) Hello MuttER, I have this in my mailcap file: text/html; html2text %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html because the output is much better than this lynx or w3m. Try it. ---end quoted text--- I agree that SOME of the output is much better. I like the blank lines separating paragraphs that is retained by w3m better, though. I believe they it make the document easier to read. I will use html2text for a while (maybe for an extended period :^) ) and give it more than a cursory examination. tks -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 08:30:05PM +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: Hi, On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Stephan Seitz spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] PS: How do you call w3m to display html mails? mailcap text/html; w3m -T text/html %s /mailcap You could also add a 'copiousoutput' at the end of that, and set auto_view text/html in your muttrc to put w3m's output into your pager. pv. ---end quoted text--- text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html %s; copiousoutput above works well for me (using auto_view) -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: spamcop forwarding redux
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 09:30:38AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: combining all 3 ideas that were posted to this list, i have: macro pager \Cf forward-message[EMAIL PROTECTED]\n\n there are still two problems: 1. when forwarding (as opposed to bouncing), mutt places me in an editor (vim). is there a way to tell mutt to ixnay the editing here? 2. mutt trims the headers (which makes this macro useless). is there a show-allheaders type directive i can give in the macro? i'm reading the mutt manual, but it's slow going. i'm on line 800 of 6000 and i feel like i've been reading forever. i've already finished 2 huge cups of coffee...:-) thanks! pete ---end quoted text--- I'm a little late getting here but I use a perl script 'sendspam' and these macro's: macro index S :unset wait_key\n|./bin/sendspam\ns+Spam\n:unset wait_key\n macro pager S :unset wait_key\n|./bin/sendspam\ns+Spam\n:unset wait_key\n then a simple 'S' initiates the mailing to spamcop, moves the spam to my SpamCop folder and I wait for the returns. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: display-hooking w3m / was: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote: Hi Gary and all, why didn't I come up with this workaround? I use w3m regularly - I hacked my url_handler.sh into calling it when no Netscape is running (hardly recently) and as long as Opera refuses to take remote commands (although it says it understands them, Opera 5 and Opera 6 TP1 don't). The workaround does not help Schoeppi a bit, of course, but it's an interesting idea in its own right. On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Display-hooks let you set w3m as the pager for just those messages that you know have a lot of embedded URLs, e.g., display-hook ~A 'set pager=builtin' display-hook '~s reg headlines' 'set pager=w3m' Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more than, say, 3 URLs in a message body so it's worth to hand over control to w3m? Can you do it without slowing down the whole Mutt? Surely, your proposed solution will help me to read LinguistList digests, so thank you very much so far! ---end quoted text--- Cristian, it IS possible for Opera to take remote commands. I do it all the time. Try the following: /usr/bin/opera '%s,new-window' I use this with klipper in mandrake 8.0+. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: help
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 07:10:57AM -0500, Bela Bartok wrote: hi, your letter, beside joke at me, did no solve my problem, you are the tipical person that joke at other's confusion and dont help!, you are the typical person that full mailing lists or wise, deep comments and reflections but dont help!!!. You are the typical open source anti-support guy.! David T-G wrote: Bela -- ...and then Bela Bartok said... % Hi, i thought my mail problems was solved, but i was wrong, i realize % that mutt use pop3 protocol to recive my emails (execellent) but it DOES Yep. % use my local sendmail, please, I am looking for a email client that ONLY Absolutely. % uses imap or pop3 for sending and reciving, like netscape or mozilla % mail but that can be execute without X-windows. No mail program uses POP3 for sending. Some other programs have been known to make a connection directly to a remote machine's port 25 and send that way, but mutt doesn't do that. [[ s n i p ] ---end quoted text--- David was making an honest attempt to reply to your questions which were confusing, in part due to your command of the english language. THIS IS NOT bashing you for your problems with english, but pointing out the difficulties of INTERPRETING your questions and trying to answer clearly. Continuing to DERIDE the individuals here who attempt to help you will only gain more derision and LESS assistance. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to AOL
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 12:08:07PM +0100, Oliver Ob wrote: Right a short question, as I am not using AOL but want Walter to be able to use Netscape with it: What are the servers? pop3.aol.com and smtp.aol.com do not seem to work. Can you be so nice as to simply post those? Thanks. Some say it is not possible, so is there a workaround that? ---end quoted text--- You MAY post to aol by opening a browser to www.aol.com and log on with an aol name/password. Then open their mail client and send/receive web mail. You may then forward to another account to copy your own mail or cut/paste. And this CAN BE accomplished from linux. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: Handling digests
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:50:26PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Hi, * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-15 12:17]: Yes I understand that, but it's not really what I want to do. I want a means of downloading a digest, as a digest, i.e. a single message and then by some jiggery-pokery undigesting it, perhaps temporarily (a la grepmail). I know there are MUA's that can do this, but mutt cannot (and I have *no* intention of giving up mutt just for this btw, it is in my opinion a brilliant piece of software which makes mail-reading as painless as possible). I do use procmail btw, but it is a pig, both resource wise and syntactically...it looks like it was born in the same barn as sendmail. It can un-digest though. I don't have the recipe, but it's either in the manpages or in a prominent position on Procmail's website or FAQ. Maybe Timo's page. try 'man procmailex' My MTA is postfix, my MUA is mutt .. both of these I am very happy with. The man in the middle ..Procmail.. I dislike intensely...but that is OT here. Use Mail::Audit. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin ---end quoted text--- -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: List processing in Mutt
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 05:47:44PM +, Bruno Postle wrote: On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote: (In case you haven't already gone D'oh!:) Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of that email? -- Bruno ---end quoted text--- didn't get it ere ?? -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to AOL
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 11:24:24PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 11:24:28PM -, Rob Park wrote: I have now. I don't know how I existed so long without it. It is unset by default and the ONLY problems I had posting before yesterday were with AOL. That's weird. I just looked through my .muttrc and it wasn't there, so it's been off the entire time I've been using mutt, but I've never had any problems. Can somebody describe that that variable is actually for? The man page is fairly vague about it, imo. If it works without that for you, it means that you have set your SMTP server well. If you check the mail address of the guy has been asking, you find that he has a broken setup of SMTP and refuses to set it right. Ignore it. ---end quoted text--- My 'setup of SMTP' is not BROKEN. It works fine. As I said before, I only have had problems that I am aware of, posting to AOL. I get error messages returned as I quoted previously. BUT, since I set envelope_from, I am able to post to AOL. What I don't understand is WHY I didn't have problems, since I had been unaware of envelope_from and it is unset be default ??? -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to AOL
On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 03:41:48PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 06:41:39PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my inbox with: MuttER mutt [30/10/01 07:26 -0500]: My 'setup of SMTP' is not BROKEN. It works fine. As I said before, I only have had problems that I am aware of, posting to AOL. I get error messages returned as I quoted previously. If you were sending out mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED] it _was_ broken Is that what mail would look like with it off? I guess the reason I don't have this problem has more to do with my mutt config than with my postfix config! I had my_hdr's setting the From: and Reply-To: headers, which would avoid that envelope_from problem altogether. ---end quoted text--- moxnix... As long as the host.domain resolves, the user name does not have to be real apparently. Question -- -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to aol
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:34:29PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:49:22AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my inbox with: pat mutt [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? I get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a mutt problem. Didn't somebody else just post with the exact same problem...? -- ---end quoted text--- Yes and I have solved my own problem. This is a MUTT ?problem?. If I set envelope_from ON, AOL accepts the post. Seems AOL does not like localhost.localdomain, but will accept ANY valid domain-name, as I use (above, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to limit spam, uce. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to aol
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:47:10PM -0500, MuttER wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:34:29PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:49:22AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my inbox with: pat mutt [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? I get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a mutt problem. Didn't somebody else just post with the exact same problem...? Yes and I have solved my own problem. This is a MUTT ?problem?. If I set envelope_from ON, AOL accepts the post. Seems AOL does not like localhost.localdomain, but will accept ANY valid domain-name, as I use (above, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to limit spam, uce. ---end quoted text--- addemdum to my own reply: I added a 'send-hook': send-hook aol.com 'set envelope_from=yes' and set the default to OFF. This may be a problem with other locations, but I haven't found any, yet! -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: unable to post to aol
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 11:47:10PM -0500, MuttER wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 10:34:29PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 09:49:22AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian (dis)graced my inbox with: pat mutt [27/10/01 23:01 -0500]: What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? I get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE I AM able to post everywhere EXCEPT AOL ??? (that I know of). AOL is much more anal over dns / reverse dns issues than other providers. Post some more detailed logs - and maybe ask postfix-users. This is not a mutt problem. Didn't somebody else just post with the exact same problem...? Yes and I have solved my own problem. This is a MUTT ?problem?. If I set envelope_from ON, AOL accepts the post. Seems AOL does not like localhost.localdomain, but will accept ANY valid domain-name, as I use (above, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to limit spam, uce. ---end quoted text--- addemdum to my own reply: I added a 'send-hook': send-hook aol.com 'set envelope_from=yes' and set the default to OFF. This may be a problem with other locations, but I haven't found any, yet! -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: mutt-users-digest V1 #820
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 03:40:46PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:01:34 -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: I get this failure/error when posting from mutt 1.3.23i. I DO NOT get a failure when I copy the same msg to kmail's outbox and then send it (exactly the same msg). ? In that case, I don't have a clue. Sorry :( In that case, it's easy -- your setup of postfix is broken (I suppose, that you are sending your email with kmail directly to SMTP server of your provider, aren't you?). -- ---end quoted text--- yeeesss, BUT I AM able to post to other addresses correctly as I am now setup. I ONLY (iirc) have a problem with AOL, which is known to to rather odd things :^). -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: post failure ??
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 11:40:48PM -0500, pat wrote: What is happening when I try to mail to someone at aol? I get the following error: Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain Arrival-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 04:18:02 + (UTC) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[152.163.224.122] said: 550 REQUESTED ACTION NOT TAKEN: DNS FAILURE -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org ---end quoted text--- followup to my own post. I get this failure/error when posting from mutt 1.3.23i. I DO NOT get a failure when I copy the same msg to kmail's outbox and then send it (exactly the same msg). ? -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: Tag Multiple Attachments?
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:20:41PM -0400, John P. Verel wrote: That's what I do. All that happens is the cursor moves to the next file name. The manual notes that typing upper case A allows for tagging and attaching multiple messages (not files) and that works for me. The manual makes no mention of tagging files...only messages. So, no luck here so far. On 10/17/01, 05:43:40PM -0700, Igor Pruchanskiy wrote: On Wed 17 Oct 2001, John P. Verel wrote: Hi. I sometimes want to attach multiple files from the same directory. I've tried to tag while in the attachment menu, but no luck. Couldn't find anything in the on-line help. The ? indicated t for tag in the attachment menu. What am I missing. just hit t to tag an attachment, just like you tag messages ---end quoted text--- Works for me, don't even need 'upper case A'. Lower case works fine, can tag 't' individual, also 'T' by pattern. MD 8+, Linux 2.4.3-20mdk mutt 1.3.23i -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
