Intermittent reconnection failure
Having intermittent trouble with mutt 2.2.12 on debian stable. It uses an imap server (dovecot) over a wireguard VPN. When my laptop resumes from suspend, a few seconds elapse before the VPN becomes available and mutt usually reconnects automatically. Sometimes, about one time in 5, it doesn't. In those cases I make mutt reconnect by opening a folder. It's not a grave problem but I'd prefer mutt to try a little harder to reconnect, if that can be done. I'm attaching two extracts from .muttdebug0, running with '-d 2'. reconn-ok.txt shows mutt reconnecting after running my preconnect script. reconn-failed.txt shows mutt failing to reconnect and without running my preconnect script. I obscured one folder name with for privacy. Why does mutt sometimes fail to reconnect? Thanks -- Nick Asunción 08:36 PYT ► 21°C ◆ cielo claro ◆ 11Km/h SSE ◆ 66% HR [2024-04-17 19:44:00] 4< * STATUS Junk (RECENT 2 UIDNEXT 335 UIDVALIDITY 1519640566 UNSEEN 0) [2024-04-17 19:44:00] 4< a3058 OK Status completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs). [2024-04-17 19:44:00] 4< * STATUS *** (RECENT 0 UIDNEXT 1551 UIDVALIDITY 1519640578 UNSEEN 0) [2024-04-17 19:44:00] 4< a3059 OK Status completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs). [2024-04-18 05:41:01] 4> a3060 NOOP [2024-04-18 05:41:12] tls_socket_read (Error in the pull function.) [2024-04-18 05:41:16] imap_cmd_step: Error reading server response. [2024-04-18 05:41:16] A fatal error occurred. Will attempt reconnection. [2024-04-18 05:41:16] imap_exec: command failed: [2024-04-18 05:41:16] Trying to reconnect... [2024-04-18 05:41:16] Reading imaps://rolly.vpn/INBOX... [2024-04-18 05:41:16] Executing preconnect: wait-for-ping -v -l ~/.local/logs/mutt-preconnect.log rolly.vpn 20 [2024-04-18 05:41:16] Preconnect result: 0 [2024-04-18 05:41:16] Looking up rolly.vpn... [2024-04-18 05:41:16] Connecting to rolly.vpn... [2024-04-18 05:41:18] SSL/TLS connection using TLS1.3 (ECDHE-RSA/AES-256-GCM/AEAD) [2024-04-18 05:41:18] Connected to rolly.vpn:993 on fd=4 [2024-04-18 05:41:18] 4< * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE LITERAL+ AUTH=PLAIN] Dovecot (Debian) ready. [2024-04-18 05:41:18] imap_authenticate: Using any available method. [2024-04-18 05:41:18] imap_auth_gsasl: using mech PLAIN [2024-04-18 05:41:18] Authenticating (PLAIN)... [2024-04-18 07:55:25] 4< * STATUS Junk (RECENT 2 UIDNEXT 335 UIDVALIDITY 1519640566 UNSEEN 0) [2024-04-18 07:55:25] 4< a5509 OK Status completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs). [2024-04-18 07:55:25] 4< * STATUS *** (RECENT 0 UIDNEXT 1551 UIDVALIDITY 1519640578 UNSEEN 0) [2024-04-18 07:55:25] 4< a5510 OK Status completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs). [2024-04-18 08:26:31] 4> a5511 NOOP [2024-04-18 08:26:34] 4< * BYE Disconnected for inactivity. [2024-04-18 08:26:34] Handling BYE [2024-04-18 08:26:34] Disconnected for inactivity. [2024-04-18 08:26:36] A fatal error occurred. Will attempt reconnection. [2024-04-18 08:26:36] imap_exec: command failed: * BYE Disconnected for inactivity. [2024-04-18 08:26:36] Trying to reconnect... [2024-04-18 08:26:36] Reading imaps://rolly.vpn/alert... [2024-04-18 08:26:36] Selecting alert... [2024-04-18 08:26:36] 5> a0292 STATUS "Drafts" (MESSAGES) a0293 SELECT "alert" [2024-04-18 08:26:36] tls_socket_read (Error in the pull function.) [2024-04-18 08:26:40] imap_cmd_step: Error reading server response. [2024-04-18 08:26:40] Reconnect failed. Mailbox closed. [2024-04-18 08:26:40] mutt_socket_close: Attempt to close closed connection.
Re: Just converted to UTF-8. Line graphics don't work. :-(
The font you are using likely doesn't support the line glyphs. I've found Envy Code R to be a good all-purpose font that supports a good number of glyphs. Nick On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:45:32PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, mutt! > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 3 > I run mutt 1.5.21 on a Linux virtual terminal (NOT in X). Yesterday I > converted my system software from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8. Now I find that > the line graphics in the message index, rather than looking like lines, > look something like this: > > M-b~T~\M-b~T~@> > > . A bit of internet searching reveals the workaround of setting LANG > thusly: > > LANG=C mutt > > , but this is a mere workaround since it disables UTF-8 where it's > really wanted. > > Is there a proper solution to this dilemma? > > Thanks in advance! > > -- > Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: offlineimap much slower than gmail-imap
On Mon, 02 May 2011 at 20:52:29 +0200, Toby Cubitt wrote: > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:17:26PM +0200, Jose M Vidal wrote: > > No way: just set the caching just for headers, but the response is > > still very slow. Any other clue I can follow? > > I use offlineimap with mutt, and found that switching to a maildir > containing of the order of 10,000 emails was a somewhat slow (taking > perhaps a minute or so), even with maildir header caching configured. > I recompiled mutt with tokyo-cabinet support (which allows mutt to use > a tokyo cabinet database for the backend header-cache database), and > opening the same maildir now takes a couple of seconds at most. For reference, mutt (1.5.20) on my machine currently takes 11 seconds to open my offlineimap'd Gmail 'All Mail' folder which contains 17,418 messages. It then takes a further 6 seconds to close the mailbox, write any changes, and then switch back to my Inbox (for example). This is on an Apple MacBook Air with SSD, and mutt has been configured with header-cacheing enabled and support for tokyo-cabinet compiled therein. For me this is still too slow, but I'm not sure that there's much else that can be done to improve it. -- -Nick
Re: Mutt colors do not always apply
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 at 12:29:34 +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > I don't know what's causing this but I am experiencing a similiar > issue with colors. My problem is when I use bright colors in the > index. For example, I have this in my muttrc file: > > color index brightwhite default ~N color index brightgreen default ~O > > except they do not always show as bright. However, if I scroll over > these mails with the indicator (which also has a bright color defined > for its text) the brightness is toggled depending on whether I scroll > up or down. You're not using Apple's Terminal.app by any chance, are you? I had this problem myself and the resolution (with this particular terminal emulator) was to set the termtype / emulation to 'dtterm'. -- -Nick
Re: what is the benefit of imap?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:34:18PM +0100, Rocco Rutte wrote: > Depends. Most people using IMAP use it through IMAP providers which > "guarantee" you 24/7 availability. You mostly have professional admins > who do the work for you and ensure you have access to mail. With local > management, that would be your job. For example, your harddisk with the > mail spool dies and all mail is gone. That is rather unlikely to happen > with say gmail. It depends on your situation. If you only ever check mail from one machine then by all means use pop. Just make sure that one machine has redundancy and a backup policy. Most servers have some kind of backups and if you are the administrator you deal with them, but most mail users don't. If you use multiple computers imap has many benefits. Checking mail from a friends house using webmail? You can still dig up the 2 month old joke and show it to him. You can sift through your sent mail to show him the scathing email you sent some tool on a mailing list. Most people that use pop don't have that ability. If you want the best of both worlds checkout offlineimap. Your mail can be local and you an get all the speed. Yet its still stored on a mail server that presumably someone else is taking care of and has proper backups. Guess what ... if they don't you have an automatic backup and your mail will get pushed back to the server when you can connect again. IMHO IMAP is just more flexible. -- Nick Anderson Network & Systems Administrator PilgrimPage Inc. | Absorbent Ink http://www.pilgrimpage.com | http://www.absorbentprinting.com Office: (785) 842.9164 Desk: (785) 830.6812
Re: How can I intergare mutt with Gnome?
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 04:23:17PM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote: > I don't know gnome. But may be you can tell us, what command you have > specified to call mutt? Try mutt %s -- Nick Anderson Network & Systems Administrator PilgrimPage Inc. | Absorbent Ink http://www.pilgrimpage.com | http://www.absorbentprinting.com Office: (785) 842.9164 Desk: (785) 830.6812
Re: Running offlineimap on startup and shutdown
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 05:12:47PM +0100, Nathan Huesken wrote: > Is there a hook for startup/shutdown? I do I execute an extern program? I would think the easiest thing to do is write a small wrapper for mutt something like #!/bin/bash offlineimap mutt offlineimap But if you leave mutt open for any length of time you wont get new mail notifications. Maybe better off with something like Be sure you have autorefresh set #!/bin/bash offlineimap -u NONINTERACTIVE.QUIET & mutt killall offlineimap offlineimap -o -u NONINTERACTIVE.QUIET That would have offline imap running while you use mutt then kill it and force a final sync when you exit mutt. -- Nick Anderson Network & Systems Administrator PilgrimPage Inc. | Absorbent Ink http://www.pilgrimpage.com | http://www.absorbentprinting.com Office: (785) 842.9164 Desk: (785) 830.6812
mutt with gmails imap support not fully working
I have mutt connecting to gmails imap service. I can view
messages in the inbox, however I cannot seem to change to
any other folder. I tried switching to a few folders with
debug on, the results are attached.
--
Nick Anderson
Mutt 1.5.16 started at Fri Oct 26 08:40:14 2007
.
Debugging at level 5.
Connected to imap.gmail.com:993 on fd=5
imap_cmd_step: grew buffer to 512 bytes
5< * OK Gimap ready for requests from 24.143.41.9 p60if1177783hsa
IMAP queue drained
5> a CAPABILITY
5< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA XYZZY
Handling CAPABILITY
5< a OK Thats all she wrote! p60if1177783hsa
IMAP queue drained
imap_authenticate: Using any available method.
local ip: 172.16.0.100;60843, remote ip:64.233.179.109;993
External SSF: 192
External authentication name: 3?��
SASL: No worthy mechs found
imap_auth_sasl: IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA XYZZY unavailable
5> a0001 LOGIN "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" "password"
5< a0001 OK [EMAIL PROTECTED] authenticated (Success)
IMAP queue drained
Communication encrypted at 192 bits
5> a0002 CAPABILITY
a0003 LIST "" ""
5< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID
Handling CAPABILITY
5< a0002 OK Success
5< * LIST (\Noselect) "/" "/"
5< a0003 OK Success
IMAP queue drained
5> a0004 SELECT "INBOX"
mboxcache: hcache uidvalidity 2, uidnext 299
5< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen \*)
Getting mailbox FLAGS
5< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen \*)]
Getting mailbox PERMANENTFLAGS
5< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 2]
Getting mailbox UIDVALIDITY
5< * 6 EXISTS
Handling EXISTS
cmd_handle_untagged: New mail in INBOX - 6 messages total.
5< * 0 RECENT
5< * OK [UNSEEN 2]
5< * OK [UIDNEXT 300]
Getting mailbox UIDNEXT
5< a0004 OK [READ-WRITE] INBOX selected. (Success)
IMAP queue drained
Mailbox flags: [\Flagged] [\Draft] [\Deleted] [\Seen] [\*]
../../imap/message.c:104: mutt_mktemp returns "/tmp/mutt-neuron-1000-22458-0".
5> a0005 UID FETCH 1:298 (UID FLAGS)
5< * 1 FETCH (UID 72 FLAGS (\Seen))
Handling FETCH
FETCH response ignored for this message
5< * 2 FETCH (UID 74 FLAGS (\Seen))
Handling FETCH
FETCH response ignored for this message
5< * 3 FETCH (UID 100 FLAGS (\Seen))
Handling FETCH
FETCH response ignored for this message
5< * 4 FETCH (UID 124 FLAGS (Old))
Handling FETCH
FETCH response ignored for this message
5< * 5 FETCH (UID 128 FLAGS (\Seen))
Handling FETCH
FETCH response ignored for this message
5< a0005 OK Success
IMAP queue drained
5> a0006 FETCH 6:6 (UID FLAGS INTERNALDATE RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS
(DATE FROM SUBJECT TO CC MESSAGE-ID REFERENCES CONTENT-TYPE CONTENT-DESCRIPTION
IN-REPLY-TO REPLY-TO LINES LIST-POST X-LABEL)])
5< * 6 FETCH (UID 299 RFC822.SIZE 2385 INTERNALDATE "26-Oct-2007 09:49:57
+" FLAGS () BODY[HEADER.FIELDS (DATE FROM SUBJECT TO CC MESSAGE-ID
REFERENCES CONTENT-TYPE CONTENT-DESCRIPTION IN-REPLY-TO REPLY-TO LINES
LIST-POST X-LABEL)] {382}
Handling FETCH
FETCH response ignored for this message
imap_read_literal: reading 382 bytes
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:49:57 -0700
Reply-To: Google Calendar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: You have no events scheduled today.
From: Google Calendar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=00c09f923be3043d6246018ba8ab328c
5< )
parse_parameters: `boundary=00c09f923be3043d6246018ba8ab328c'
parse_parameter: `boundary' = `00c09f923be3043d6246018ba8ab328c'
5< a0006 OK Success
IMAP queue drained
imap_open_mailbox: msgcount is 6
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: yes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_index_menu[633]: Got op 127
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_addr_is_user: no, all failed.
mutt_index_menu[633]: Got op 99
imap_browse: Quoting mailbox scan: -> "%"
5> a0007 LIST "" "%"
5< * LIST () "/" "INBOX&
Re: maidir monitor for gnome
Hi, * Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070901 14:22]: > * shen xiaofei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070831 23:28]: > > > > * You wrote on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 07:33:54PM -0500: > > xterm -e /usr/bin/mutt > > > > > start mutt by double-clicking on the penguin icon. Otherwise, gnubiff > > > appears to be working properly, so I plan to stay with it. > > Amazing! I thank you, Shen. > > This is my first experience with xterm. I have been using Multi Gnome > Terminal except when I wish to run mc (midnight commander). mc > doesn't work very well with multi gnome terminal, so for mc I open > gnome terminal. Since you already seem to use it I thought it worth pointing out how, using gnome-terminal you can get similar results to running 'xterm -e mutt'. This can be done using gnome-terminal "Profiles". You can set one up for mutt with the following procedure (description based on the 2.18 version of gnome terminal, but I guess should be similar for all 2.x versions): Open a gnome-terminal from the menu select; Edit->Profiles->New In the field "Profile name" enter something appropriate like "Mutt" Click "Create" This should pop up a tabbed window which allows you to edit the Mutt profile. Select the "Title and Command" tab, select the check box "Run a custom command instead of my shell", then enter "mutt" in the field "Custom command". You can also do fun things like set the icon etc. Now, to run this profile (ie run the terminal with mutt) do: gnome-terminal --window-with-profile Mutt (where "Mutt" was the profile name you chose earlier) Cheers, Nick. PS. I recall from some time ago the main advantage multi-gnome-terminal had over gnome-terminal was it's use of tabs: this feature is now in gnome-terminal too.
Re: mutt port for Symbian?
Hi, * Ajeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070822 12:13]: > Is there a port for any mobile platform? Sure, mutt is in openembedded and therefore runs on all sorts of mobile devices. I have it running on a sharp zaurus using angstrom. http://www.angstrom-distribution.org Cheers, Nick. -- Nicholas C. Hastings, Research Staff Aihara Group/Department of Physics, The University of Tokyo
Re: No new email in certain folder?!
Hi, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070606 10:58]: > > is it possible to inhibt the setting of the "N" flag (new email) > for a certain mailfolder? > > I am not interested in knowing of "new mail" in my spam folder... I don't know about removing that flag, but if you omit that mailfolder from your "mailboxes" list in your muttrc then mutt won't prompt you when new mail arrives there. Cheers, Nick.
Re: search mailbox throughly
Hi, * Shaochun Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070327 16:35]: > > I want to search one of my mailbox throughly, not just the header of > mail, so I can find the mails that contain something I am interested. > Maybe let mutt filter out such mails, therefore I can check them easily. > > Does anyone know how to do it? I think ' b' will search the body of mails in the current mailbox. If you want something significantly more powerful I suggest you check out mairix. I've been using it for a couple of years now, and wonder how I ever managed without it. http://wiki.mutt.org/?UserStory/SearchingMail Cheers, Nick.
Re: Thread Un-breaking
Hi,
* Ryan Curtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070306 08:13]:
> Occasionally I will hit '#' instead of '$', which breaks the thread
> ('#' is bound to the break-thread function). I've looked online but
> unfortunately I have not been able to figure out how to "un-break" a
> thread (i.e. revert what '#') does. Can anyone tell me? I'd appreciate
> it.
I think that you have to manually join them. Tag the reply and hit '&'
when you are on the parent message.
Cheers,
Nick.
Re: mutt does not delete TMP files
Hi Thomas, * Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070206 19:07]: > On 2007-02-06 14:07:36 +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: > > * Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070206 01:20]: > > > > > > I have found an Error in mutt while using IMAP and connecting to courier. > > > > > > If I enter a Mailfolder with mails, mutt does not only fetch the desired > > > headers but the whole NEW messages... > > > > Sorry, I can't help but I can let you know that you aren't alone: I see > > the exact same thing. > > > > Anyone know what is going on here? > > This sounds like the body cache is in effect... To set the directory > where the files go, configure message_cachedir. > > To turn it off, set message_cachedir to "". Hmm, from the manual it seems that that should be the answer, but strangely it looks like it's already turned off: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 3% mutt -D |grep message_cachedir message_cachedir="" Since both myself and the OP are using Debian packages, perhaps it's related to that. Any other Debian and IMAP users care to comment? Thanks? Nick. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mutt does not delete TMP files
Hi, * Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070206 01:20]: > > I have found an Error in mutt while using IMAP and connecting to courier. > > If I enter a Mailfolder with mails, mutt does not only fetch the desired > headers but the whole NEW messages... Sorry, I can't help but I can let you know that you aren't alone: I see the exact same thing. Anyone know what is going on here? > And more, while using imap. mut does not more respect $TMP, $TMPDIR, > $TEMP or $TEMPDIR and write to /tmp thousands of files... >...and does not delete it! I think you need to define it in your .muttrc Eg. set tmpdir="~/.tmp" > I have encountered the problem as mutt was not more able to save messages > because I hit the "out of inode" problem (arround 38.000) > > I use Debian Sarge/Etch/Sid and the versions 1.5.9 and 1.5.13 I'm using 1.5.13-1.1 from Sid. Cheers, Nick. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
sending as who you've been addressed as.
Hi, I have several email aliases that I use frequently, when I reply to an email, i'd like to send as whoever the email was addressed to, automatically. How can I do this? Also, when I send to certain email addresses (specifically mailing lists, etc) I'd like to use a specific email alias as well, how can I do this? I've been messing with 'send-hook' but it seems like no matter what I change, it just doesn't work. Thanks for your help. - nick
Re: slightly dumb newbie question
On 05/31@11:35, Will Yardley wrote: > Nick Stewart wrote: > > On 05/31@18:57, Rocco Rutte wrote: > > > > All you can is try to contact the responsible postmaster - > > > sounds stupid since you can't deliver any mail, I know. > > > Maybe the receipent can do something about it. If there's no > > > error message from mutt and no kind of error report (neither > > > from your nor from their MTA), I can't even guess what a > > > possible reason could be. > > > Great. I've ask the recipient to ask the postmaster from more > > information. > > well you're still not showing any logs, nor are you giving information > on your system type, connection type, or anything else (as far as i > noticed anyway). do the messages that are "lost" show up as being > accepted in your mail logs? The good news is after checking out sendmail's FAQ I was able to assign the nessecary permissions to /mqueue and therefore able to set envelope_from which in turn pleased the mail server which delivered my mail (not the old mail it's still floating around their mail server). Thanks for the advice re envelope from. Below I've included the mail log entry for two mails sent to the same recipient before and after envelope_from was set. Intresting to see the difference (not that I know exactly what it means) maybe someone could explain. 1. May 30 18:23:30 linux sendmail[23642]: g4UMNUrx023642: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30468, stat=queued May 30 18:35:31 linux sendmail[23698]: g4UMNUrx023642: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (500/100), delay=00:12:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=120468, relay=mail.earthlink.net. [207.217.121.201], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK id=17DYZT-0002Lj-00) 2. May 31 15:03:41 linux sendmail[25932]: g4VJ3frx025932: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30705, stat=queued May 31 15:03:41 linux sendmail[25931]: g4VJ3fvv025931: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (500/100), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30452, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (g4VJ3frx025932 Message accepted for delivery) > > are you by chance using sendmail from a dynamic IP (like a dialup)? you > shouldn't send mail directly out from a machine that has a dynamic IP > (esp. a dialup) - rather define your ISP's mail server as a "smart > host". The bad news :-) Yes, I have ADSL connection which does have a dynamic IP. Comments on what this mean for my system and what I shoud do to rectify any security or system issues would be appreciated. I attach to my ADSL modem through a 10/100 ethernet card. I configured the connection using YAsT2 on SuSE 8.0 I use Kinternet (from KDE 3.0) to control the connection. I would be please to hear about better more secure etc. way to configure my connection and manage my mail. I know this isn't exactly a mutt issue but any direction would be appreciated. Best, Nick > > > After mutt has given me the "mail sent" message I become superuser and type > > $ sendmail -q > > My question is: > > Is this standard proceedure? Or should mutt be telling sendmail "hey, > > send this mail now" to which sendmail responds "sure sending mail > > now"? > > not really. you should just send the message. sendmail -q is used to > flush the queue (ie if a message didn't go through for some reason). > under normal circumstances, you should rarely have to run 'sendmail -q'. > > you might consider postfix; many people feel that it's easier to > configure than sendmail. the default configuration lets users other > than root flush the queue. > > > 2. With regard to undelivered mail. I was told to set envelope_from > > but when I set it in /etc/Muttrc I get X-Athentification-Warning > > hearders on my mail. Is this because I need to set my user account to > > trusted user? if so how? > > this is outside the scope of this newsgroup; do a google search or look > on sendmail.org. > > note that the X-Authentication-Warning doesn't do anything bad, so you > might want to just leave it. > > or switch to postfix. > > -- > Will Yardley > input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >
Re: slightly dumb newbie question
On 05/31@18:57, Rocco Rutte wrote: > Hi, > > * Nick Stewart [05/31/02 18:36:09 CEST] wrote: > > Would someone please give me possible reasons why some of > > my mail is not delivered. By "not delivered" I mean that > > not only does the desired recipient not get the mail but I > > get no form of responce what so ever. No "unable to > > deliver mail because..." messages, zip, zilch, nada. > > > The only obvious pattern I can see is that the mail only > > seems to "disappear" when sent to an address on a network > > (what kind of netwrk, I don't know). > > All you can is try to contact the responsible postmaster - > sounds stupid since you can't deliver any mail, I know. > Maybe the receipent can do something about it. If there's no > error message from mutt and no kind of error report (neither > from your nor from their MTA), I can't even guess what a > possible reason could be. > > Cheers, Rocco Great. I've ask the recipient to ask the postmaster from more information. I have two more queries (apologies in advance for their mundane nature): 1. I am running mutt on my SuSE linux pc a home as under a "user" account. I am using sendmail and fetchmail to do the dirty work. My method of sending mail is this: After mutt has given me the "mail sent" message I become superuser and type $ sendmail -q My question is: Is this standard proceedure? Or should mutt be telling sendmail "hey, send this mail now" to which sendmail responds "sure sending mail now"? If so how should I configure this considering I'm using mutt as a "user" so I don't get those annoying "permission denied" messages. Also where should I change the config in my ~/.muttrc or /etc/Muttrc? 2. With regard to undelivered mail. I was told to set envelope_from but when I set it in /etc/Muttrc I get X-Athentification-Warning hearders on my mail. Is this because I need to set my user account to trusted user? if so how?
slightly dumb newbie question
Hi, Would someone please give me possible reasons why some of my mail is not delivered. By "not delivered" I mean that not only does the desired recipient not get the mail but I get no form of responce what so ever. No "unable to deliver mail because..." messages, zip, zilch, nada. The only obvious pattern I can see is that the mail only seems to "disappear" when sent to an address on a network (what kind of netwrk, I don't know). On the bright side some of my mail is delivered (including this one :-). Thank you in advance for any advice you can offer. Nick
Re: some mail not reaching it's destination
On 05/31@02:13, Michael Tatge wrote: > Nick Stewart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > Firstly I'm using sendmail to do the obvious. > > The problem is that certain mail does not arrive. > > > > Must be my setup, right? > > Most likely. Did you set $envelope_from? Thanks for the advice. Should I set envelope from to yes or no? What will this do? Best, Nick > > HTH, > > Michael > -- > > PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
some mail not reaching it's destination
Hello, Firstly I'm using sendmail and fetchmail to do the obvious. I seem to be receiving all the mail that's sent to me. The problem is that certain mail (ie. mail that is sent to friends addresses at work) does not arrive. I can send mail to myself and to a friends two-way pager, I've also subscribed and unsubscribed to lists such as this. Must be my setup, right? Nick
problem with folder hooks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I'm having a little trouble with setting a reply-to on a specific folder. I've commented the code below so I'm sure you can see what I'm attempting to do: #this is my main account send-hook '.' "my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" # these three appear to work but sometimes when I switch back to # explodingnet after sending a mail from tioka I get the tioka # signiture? folder-hook =Tioka/nick set trash="~/Mail/Trash/tioka" folder-hook =Tioka/nick set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" folder-hook =Tioka/nick set signature="/home/nick/.tioka_signature" # but this little bugger's having none of it folder-hook =Tioka/nick "my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" a little help would be much appreciated, cheers.. - -- Nick Wilson // www.tioka.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8zn/eHpvrrTa6L5oRAp2SAJ9GrG4LK3TlsOnsA9ON79cuzQoS/gCgr4hj e4xk5mABoh6217gLxcHGWyM= =veLl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Newbie with mutt and fetchmail
Hi: I've installed fetchmail, it works, I've put it in the background as a process with the -d 30 arg, mutt seems to start up. The only way that I can read any messages in mutt designated to my ISP's mail server, is if I read the messages first with the mail command. What do I need to do in order to have mutt receive and display my messages from my server? Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
Re: help with folder hook?
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* and then David T-G declared
> % folder-hook =Tioka/nick set "my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
> %
> % That doesn't work and it will not work without the 'set' either so I'm a
> % little stumped :-)
>
> You definitely don't want the set in there; my_hdr is a command, not a
> parameter.
Gotcha.
It works just fine now, cheers Danvid.
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help with folder hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone... Could someone help me sort this folder-hook out please? folder-hook =Tioka/nick set "my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" That doesn't work and it will not work without the 'set' either so I'm a little stumped :-) Many thanks... - -- - --- www.explodingnet.com |Projects, Forums and + Articles for website owners - -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8segBHpvrrTa6L5oRAh4cAKCggzYP/gYyrhjm4QLebff/NOO1PgCeN6mF XMryEwpmB+9QQOrPZNTcBno= =Giwr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: orange editor
You may need to use vim, not vi. I tried to emulate your problem but couldn't. Have you got set editor="vim -c 'set tw=72 et' '+/^$'" in your .muttrc. HTH Nick
problem recieving .zip attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi is there any reason why I'm recieving a zipped file from an Lookout! user as inline content? Much thanks - -- - --- www.explodingnet.com |Projects, Forums and +Articles for website owners - -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8i+ChHpvrrTa6L5oRAox+AJ0XQrY3Qs958ptWLcyGta0c8SckWgCdGLv5 Gz0ZmX5Hbe1Z+tHBfP/1V5A= =IgI1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 'clicking links'
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* and then Justin R. Miller declared
> Said Nick Wilson on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:14:14PM +0100:
>
> > I regularly use urlview and lynx with mutt but am frustrated because
> > I've not been able to work out how to avoid having to manually type in
> > the URL when I want to view something in a graphical browser. Hummph!
>
> Attached are my ~/.urlview and ~/bin/url_handler.sh files. I think I
Hmmm looks trickey, and I *must* go to bed! I'll get on it in the am
and reply again should/when I hit trouble :-)
Thanks everyone.
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Re: 'clicking links'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Radek Spacil declared > > I regularly use urlview and lynx with mutt but am frustrated because > > I've not been able to work out how to avoid having to manually type in > > the URL when I want to view something in a graphical browser. Hummph! > > If I understand it correctly, you still want to use in most cases lynx > or urlview, but sometimes (when clicked) use graphical browser. Precisely. A lot of the time I'm not in X at all but then some of these links, like from my CSS list are just pointless in Lynx. > I'm using lynx for text viewing. For launching graphical browser I use > gnome-terminal feature (I'm running mutt in gnome-terminal) which will > launch predefined browser (defined in gnomecc) after right-clicking > and choosing 'show in browser' - in my case mozilla. Note I'm not > using gnome, just the terminal :-) Ahh,, running kde :-) - -- - --- www.explodingnet.com |Projects, Forums and +Articles for website owners - -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8dCn8HpvrrTa6L5oRAih2AJ45mJHJBMgrNBxu4SrFgBBDJZAu9wCeKEhW OrcjHn3Um92sFjSxX/GM+3Q= =JfzO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
'clicking links'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I regularly use urlview and lynx with mutt but am frustrated because I've not been able to work out how to avoid having to manually type in the URL when I want to view something in a graphical browser. Hummph! I use NS6 for my crimes if that is of any use. Many thanks for your suggestions. - -- - --- www.explodingnet.com |Projects, Forums and +Articles for website owners - -- Nick Wilson -- |and designers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8c682HpvrrTa6L5oRAriJAJ9dyLt/30u/r56uHhgsaZnUVCHpCACfZRjz bE3S0ZDTRXKd7Nyw8ZPcHJw= =YuG2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
arrggh, print hell [little OT]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, long time no speak :-) I've just had to print an entire mbox file, it wasn't that many messages but it was a painful process as I didn't think of a way to only print the /actuall/ message bodies (and perhaps TO, From) I just did: $ lpr mymboxfile What might I have done? Many thanks... - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8bB69HpvrrTa6L5oRAv3kAKCeBgUxn8bKkxKtlqbTYvAki+WrNACfX1yc frBBlVaLTxs8nf1xqweB1Xg= =IkTh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: People who don't wrap their lines
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Knute declared > I just got an email with the long lines thing. I didn't even realize it > till I replied to the message and the reply indicator only showed up at > the beginning of each paragraph! Pretty wierd! Yep, aggrovating isn't it? That's where my par trick comes in handy. It doesn't stick quote chars in on every line but will make sure it breaks at 72 which helps somewhat. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8ZkoCHpvrrTa6L5oRAk57AJwPcTMTqZItaCrx+xriOki361SM5wCgpMFl 0bx0xboQMvsMGyXIGwHneTI= =GVR6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: People who don't wrap their lines
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Christopher S. Swingley declared > show up with a + at the end of the line)? It seems like a > display_filter would be the solution, except that you probably only want > the filter applied to messsages with this condition. Is there a way to > map / bind a key such that wil will redisplay the current message, but > this time pass it through a display_filter first? > > Seems like this could help with a variety of broken-mailer issues like > the \224 issue, the long line issue and others I can't think of. You'd > just use bind a different filter for different problems. Absolutely, that \224 thing kills me. Mutt should really be able to handle that issue a little better. After all, it does pretty much everything I need except make me a cup of tea (sometimes asking the wife nicely works :-) so why can't it do that? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8ZklzHpvrrTa6L5oRAnHUAKCbWDFivS9WQ8v4ArFezvs1d6y3ZwCfQfMY cxhNkOQa+f6mhp3KqGL4s94= =YOeT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: People who don't wrap their lines
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* and then Christopher S. Swingley declared
> > map {!}par 72^M}j
>
> But this wouldn't do much of anything when reading a message in mutt
> would it? Or do you have your pager set as vim?
No, my apologies, I misunderstood/misread the Q.
Bad wilson!
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Re: People who don't wrap their lines
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> | No. hehe, but a nice gentlemen from 'the rolling hils of south carolina'
> | sent me this handy little vim macro:
> |
> | map {!}par 72}j
> |
> | Of course you need par installed, but it works a treat. Just hit ^l and
> | it will reformat the lines for you.
>
> Wouldn't fmt do ok? It'll mangle quoted text (which I presume is the
> advantage of par) but OTOH is already installed.
No idea, sorry. I didn't even know what par was untill this guy showed
me how to do it.
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Re: People who don't wrap their lines
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* and then Philip Mak declared
> I'm having trouble reading messages from people who don't wrap their
> lines. They have it so that one paragraph is a very long line, but it
>
> Any idea what I'm talking about? I can forward a specific message that
> should cause these conditions.
No. hehe, but a nice gentlemen from 'the rolling hils of south carolina'
sent me this handy little vim macro:
map {!}par 72
}j
Of course you need par installed, but it works a treat. Just hit ^l and
it will reformat the lines for you.
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Re: problems with text wrappin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then David T-G declared > Well, my half-baked answer is that you might not be using text/plain even > though you think you are. I have found that I have to really, really, > really work hard to convince Outhouse to do so. Don't forget to turn off > any stationery settings and to have not only new mail but replies and > forwards use plain text. Thanks, it really is a pile of, huh? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8XBZcHpvrrTa6L5oRAkg7AKCuVC1lGmeVZFXNHAoH4WLPKNVv3gCeOjk1 3y2Jr2dL3SXHs+SKe8y9vww= =Pt59 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: problems with text wrappin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Knute declared > > Hi everyone. > > Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail > > from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars > > > Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all? > > Did you set Outhouse to do just a carriage return or a carriage return > and a line feed? No idea, I just went into where it let you set the wrap width and changed it from 76 to 72. Lot's of Lookout! users messages appear to be all one line to me but they swear blind they're not. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8W8qeHpvrrTa6L5oRAq32AKCVS6G8wUWawYULivKEd4oI12o3RACbBoh+ i/00hUdoDUN72fiDjXl0tKI= =N7op -END PGP SIGNATURE-
problems with text wrappin?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone. Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all? What gives? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WyfHHpvrrTa6L5oRAtxhAKCsaaY3qZgFTq9XvjHVFmO/eVfA+gCfVF5+ NYSGUgVEFzmzlTI+K1POSZ0= =NnEf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Pity that mutt doesn't read news - what's the best match?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then John P Verel blurted > Slrn, as others have said. My model is Mutt/Slrn/Vim. Fabulous all > around. The threading can not be beat, IMHO :) Well, I'm sold. Is slrn as tricky as mutt in the beggining? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WkZAHpvrrTa6L5oRArg8AJ4l8ZhfYkD8WKQQIVS+MSWxBo1gCQCfXnol bYzO4QGzQfjXN5yXXLN0byQ= =WrM4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Pity that mutt doesn't read news - what's the best match?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Charles Jie blurted > I have been a netscape user. Now I'm satisfied with mutt and will not go > back to netscape except one thing - reading news groups. Apparently it does. I believe their is a patch for it, probably on the links section of mutt.org I'm sure someone else will provide more details. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WYFhHpvrrTa6L5oRAhZUAJ4xUwVDP6KnytJtJYgpWmB4s2/qLgCfXCli xiFkY1yE++QF+IHtvD53Yu0= =uGiO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Why is this an attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Can anyone tell me why this was received as an attachment? **Headers** - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 31 14:54:42 2002 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:54:42 +0100 From: 'Nick Wilson' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Studenterne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Ossetelse Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <61DDCC7522E4D411915600A0C99E9CE6230239@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <61DDCC7522E4D411915600A0C99E9CE6230239@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-PGP-Key: http://www.explodingnet.com/pgp/key.txt Much thanks - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WVBFHpvrrTa6L5oRAiRXAKCghUOcGWj7k5/X2tuiyCtQtiF0RwCdGNjt KI/3d0ZGa0CXsf+O8qrusYE= =1STa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Organization revisited...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Gary Johnson blurted > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:03:36AM +0100, Cedric Duval wrote: > > > My .mutt.aliases file is getting a little large now it's and not always > > > easy to remember how I've named people. > > > > You might be interested in trying the Little Big Brother Database, and > > the m_inmail module in particular: > > > > http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/ Hmmm... I'll go have a look a little later this am. > I had been > using an aliases file for my personal address book, but as the file has > grown, it's become less convenient to give everyone an alias, so I'll Yes, that's exactly where I'm at. I'd only really got as far as thinking about seperate alias files but the word 'database' had been lurking at the back of my mind. Thanks for the replies. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WO+FHpvrrTa6L5oRAhZOAJ9dL505ENhU4jsyqRlbNswu+LojRQCcCfWr uTGz/0DKroPTUUwwil+nHW4= =ByLv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Organization revisited...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mutt people, I wondered if I might ask you to share some organizational tips/methods with me. In particular, Aliases. My .mutt.aliases file is getting a little large now it's and not always easy to remember how I've named people. Do you guys split them up into separate files for work | personal | etc? How can I better organize my contacts? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WE2GHpvrrTa6L5oRAsUWAJ9O/w2WEPSnrorpc9VFTPhhJe3DsQCcC0+Q BYUMoEO1SHQqysinA1ByDfE= =pM39 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 2 Q's about printing...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Igor Pruchanskiy blurted > I am using muttprint. It is superior. I have used a2ps and enscript > before, but i ended up with muttprint and i love it. Even though my boss > makes fun of a cute little penguin :) Hmmm much thanks everyone. I'll try the var stuff this evening but where do I get muttprint and is it a GUI thing? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WCSZHpvrrTa6L5oRApafAKCGRMTOxe3lgUyy5xMbuTh2kvydjACeIgc8 BLGlwc9SML8h6Kf47GOlD20= =d9YU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
2 Q's about printing...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone. Currently I have to print msg's via the pipe command. I have 2 questions regarding this: 1. How can I print only the headers I see on the screen as opposed to all of them when I '| lpr'? 2. Why do I /have/ to pipe to lpr? It doesn't work if I just print. Much thanks as always. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8WALUHpvrrTa6L5oRAm+MAJ4trZD7x0fXbfk6EV7qd2KIsO/rLACgk4Rn GB+XrCK1COp3zS15wlh7FGk= =ndPo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Dale Woolridge blurted > In short, you may safely ignore these three failures. Everything else > will have been applied correctly and will work correctly. Yep, and it's a definate improvement on the outlook patch! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8Vts3HpvrrTa6L5oRAoelAKCae1zkwji/jkvpQvxZEBI19ZJwEACgj+0O KxrNDb7oZ/YAOQy/P4SCfbE= =ViAv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Jeremy Blosser blurted > On Jan 29, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Hmmm... Thanks Jeremy, that's getting results, unfortunately it's > > failing on each hunk? > > What output? Here ya go .. patching file PATCHES patching file init.h patching file muttlib.c patching file pgp.c patching file protos.h patching file send.c patching file doc/muttrc.man Hunk #1 succeeded at 2415 (offset 11 lines). patching file po/ca.po patching file po/cs.po patching file po/da.po patching file po/de.po patching file po/el.po patching file po/eo.po Hunk #1 succeeded at 3168 (offset -1 lines). patching file po/es.po patching file po/et.po patching file po/fr.po patching file po/gl.po patching file po/hu.po patching file po/id.po patching file po/it.po Hunk #1 FAILED at 2. 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file po/it.po.rej patching file po/ja.po patching file po/ko.po patching file po/lt.po patching file po/nl.po Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file po/nl.po.rej patching file po/pl.po patching file po/pt_BR.po patching file po/ru.po patching file po/sk.po patching file po/sv.po Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file po/sv.po.rej patching file po/tr.po patching file po/uk.po patching file po/zh_CN.po patching file po/zh_TW.po Cheers - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8VsIeHpvrrTa6L5oRAvLcAKCDgNaiqWNsnwzMFeMbfjUOaFkruQCeLwE+ mXZW34DvlYhPG7gKbDCfyvs= =n2Lj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Jeremy Blosser blurted > On Jan 29, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > from inside the untarred mutt dir: > > $ patch --dry-run -i ../dales_patch-xxx > > [snip] > > and that's where I'm stuck, I've tried -p0 and -p1 instead of -i but > ^^ > Not instead of. You need both. > > patch -p1 -i ../dales_patch-xxx Hmmm... Thanks Jeremy, that's getting results, unfortunately it's failing on each hunk? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8Vr9PHpvrrTa6L5oRAvgwAKCECsPPK/Ks35XAjtBjuoOvLTCD6ACfZEmX MhCk8L84bFm89b8/vQ2oGk0= =KxMm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Viktor Rosenfeld blurted > I just tested the patch, it applies correctly except for some language > stuff. I'll send Dale a mail about that. Hmmm... Got my clean version (27i) and I can't do it :-( I fear my education is lacking. Might I enlist a liitle help? Here's what I'm doing and getting from inside the untarred mutt dir: $ patch --dry-run -i ../dales_patch-xxx patching file PATCHES patching file init.h patching file muttlib.c patching file pgp.c patching file protos.h patching file send.c can't find file to patch at input line 147 Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: - -- |--- mutt-1.3.26/doc/muttrc.man Fri Jan 18 12:29:26 2002 |+++ mutt-1.3.26/doc/muttrc.man Sun Jan 20 09:03:14 2002 - -- File to patch: and that's where I'm stuck, I've tried -p0 and -p1 instead of -i but no joy. Can you see what mistake I'm making? Many thanks - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8Vm6LHpvrrTa6L5oRApykAJ48GESgmbtn+idxrZwTyb6JaHUOiACggtew pLI5wZovi+QWZCpmsiRPAfc= =0RiO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Dale Woolridge blurted > In fact, the patch is really meant as a replacment for the outlook_compat > patch. Many people agree that outlook_compat is a misnomer, so I simply and the confirmation. Great, at least it wasn't me being a dope, I'll get onto it this morning. > I'll be updating the patch in the next few days (I hope) with some other > suggested changes: the ability to sign/encrypt selected text parts; and How do we get to hear about such creations Dale? Is this what's discussed on mutt-dev? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8VlopHpvrrTa6L5oRAlzuAKCvgrS0yAWM37y3klvh6u05du22hwCfQ+UF g/Y1DgjEdWU+/9X3hdQh+aE= =M9lU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Viktor Rosenfeld blurted > I just tested the patch, it applies correctly except for some language > stuff. I'll send Dale a mail about that. > > However, this is on a fresh mutt tarball (1.3.26i), and looking on the > patch, I don't think it'll apply if you have the outlook_compat patch > applied. Aha! Therein lies the problem I think, I have the originaly patch in place. Cheers. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8VlmJHpvrrTa6L5oRAsqxAJ4uH5a2ZeIKBSD+YDMlHVS112QihACfesrI tIG4GAoy7XdyJpUWrqw2Zz8= =AJeQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then David T-G blurted > > % thing :) I got the patch but can't seem to apply it. If anyone else has > % experience of using it please help. Oterwise I'll post a seperate threas > % for a little assistance. > > Keep us posted, because I will be incorporating it into my cocktail as I > am able and will then have info for you if you still need it -- and will > want your info if you've licked the problem. Well, I think it's my lack of experience with patch that's the problem but if you try it yourself perhaps I can follow your steps as I'd really like to get it done. In fact, saying that I think I'll send Mr Woolridge a mail and see if he'll lend a hand. If I get it sorted I'll let you know. Take care - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8VcCNHpvrrTa6L5oRAl8fAJ4soIO5b5i1OY6gHagkoSsbeO590wCbB6NR 7vZDYeuTmghXBtapsRhDtdA= =cB0U -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Nick Wilson blurted > No, I mean $p_c_t (pgp_create_traditional) along with the outlook compat > patch, Which is why I can't understand why she's getting both the > message /and/ an attachment containing the message? One of those days, You just made a typo, we /are/ talking about the same thing :) I got the patch but can't seem to apply it. If anyone else has experience of using it please help. Oterwise I'll post a seperate threas for a little assistance. Thanks again! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8VUeFHpvrrTa6L5oRAksrAJ0fNc5sHji2NTDtRIoaBvBdnphSKACgkSoy TA+NFgZAfYxO/JpRLN0uUTw= =9pX1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Viktor Rosenfeld blurted > Hi Nick, > > the $p_o_c patch sets the header > > Content-Disposition: inline; filename="msg.pgp" > > which is why Outlook shows an attachment. There is a patch from Dale No, I mean $p_c_t (pgp_create_traditional) along with the outlook compat patch, Which is why I can't understand why she's getting both the message /and/ an attachment containing the message? Most worrying :( - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8VT/VHpvrrTa6L5oRAqSmAKCgebys5eXQtYcRiM0ELhVVsZOMGQCfZeOc Glw8zDnddxs2SMeMSV20VbQ= =i4dF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Mails received as attachment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all I just spoke to an Lookout! user who says she's getting my emails as both normally and as an attachment at the same time. This is most strange and confusing. I have the outlook compat patch and as you can see I use $p_c_t so everyone can understand me so why is this happening? Thanks very much - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8VHKNHpvrrTa6L5oRAtIaAJ9gE5bMI3IMwTqQl/Dfk2KKEPvpMQCfeAWs yxYWM8qD/iSLyHeNsILgzmM= =+/yU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: html email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Michael Maibaum blurted > My favorite was the last bi-monthly report from our (win NT > dominated...) IT dept...It was a 4Mb word document for about a page and > a half, plus some high res pics, plus all the revisions in the word > document. It was sent to every email address in the institution - From the /IT/ department? Sheesh, even my mum sends text only, /and/ understands why. How can you work in an IT department and be so monumentally ignorant? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE8UuhDHpvrrTa6L5oRAn0ZAJdZmhPPMFMumG6oxc43a1oINUZkAJ91nvzx qbO3HA6/81qNtSNEsYMhPw== =SZlq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: \223 and \224
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Christopher S. Swingley blurted > Is there any way around Microsoft's broken ISO-8859-1 character set? > The ` or ' characters show up in Mutt as \222 (contractions) \223 > (left single quote) and \224 (right single quote). In the original > file they're 0x92, 0x93 and 0x94 (not ASCII, obviously). That looks exactly like what I've been getting. Do you also get '?' chars coming up unexpectedly? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UeYJHpvrrTa6L5oRAoetAJ994Y+EKkPGYZ7fRzijMVn7Pi/ZeACeO7kn Wrj8ATWH8ByUf2rPIbuM6yU= =pJN2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Don't mention MUAS to fight html email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Michael Montagne blurted > I often read about the evils os HTML email and since I do all my email > with mutt now, I appreciate text email. But something I don't > understand is the argument that it slows down the internet for everyone. > Isn't HTML just text? The tags are evaluated and formatted at the Sure is. > client. So is it just that there is more text than there needs to be? That would be the way I understand it. One or two don't hurt but once those few extra bytes are multiplied thousands of even millions of times it's a bigger deal. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UdwRHpvrrTa6L5oRAtTGAKCvWP8ohHbeA3A88Io6p3R6XvEzZgCeIHcB cBCrY82wrUFxoAOaf/Ejlog= =UNBY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Problem with locale?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all I'm having a problem with an FAQ I keep getting ? and char codes etc instead of certain charicters. I've checked my LC_CTYPE and it's 'en_US' but er.. I'm not sure what to so with it. The FAQ says to set it to the correct value but what's that, and how do I do it? I'm a tad confused. Thanks very much - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UcE3HpvrrTa6L5oRAqT7AKCwz6B2tHFpkfL2MosWMDvlcbecYACeKAo5 e2iQTG2ejfTJr9UdO5mV+3A= =JcGR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Jeremy Blosser blurted > No, please read it again. What it says is that ^ is an _alternative_ for > specifying a control character when used in the _sequence_ portion of a > macro. \c is the only documented way to get a control character in the > _key_ portion of a macro or keybinding. That makes sense, it's not very clear though as both of us were reading it the same way. On the whole I find the manul /relatively/ simple in most places but that bit is just plain trickey :) - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UZRYHpvrrTa6L5oRAgidAJwPAucwMjw3jT1BeJBo8ChZGxZSlQCeJh/z Zp/tNhgynQb9sXF3Ir9J2Gg= =mx+U -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Benjamin Smith blurted > The following should be a working macro: > > macro pager \cd > > This is infact contrary to the documented behaviour in the manual which > says that a caret not \c indicates the control key. Is this a > documentation bug? Must be, I don't know how I managed to get it working wiht ^D but it didn't last long. Your version works great. Thanks guys! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UYhTHpvrrTa6L5oRAiiRAJ4ra/AZd2Xgg/+j7iycEDrPZWFCUwCcCcr4 vA8U8XePYvGbz9Pqztwpm4Y= =eNUf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: resending a msg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Jeremy Blosser blurted > FWIW, you could hit '?' to see the keybindings, then '/resend' to search > for resend, and you would find resend-message bound to e. Sure, believe it not I did try that, I must have made a typo and not noticed because I just tried it again and of course it worked. I couldn't find it when I looked through '?' either though: Odd. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UXROHpvrrTa6L5oRAgtsAJ9/8TOvtQ4ArEwLbBZBvsI0db23jACfYQ+R vtQXvrc6NpbI+qACm4yfc84= =sQye -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: resending a msg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Ben Logan blurted > The default keybinding is e. At least that's what it is on my > system, and I don't think I re-bound it. Yep, thanks Ben. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UU5EHpvrrTa6L5oRArrkAKCog8GAZ3r+6p52l8DlnIcdlZQeyACgkePd ez4iG1ckeKVqQu1g19gPUrM= =ZkPc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
resending a msg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, and a very merry Friday to you all. I'm sure I've seen a key binding for resending a message but can't find it? How is that done? For now I've just bounced the message which I guess should send it again but I'd like to know how this is normally done. Much thanks - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UTh/HpvrrTa6L5oRAs0aAJ0aeO0gekSIRi8xEdc7CQsqHhh7bQCeNdGV 4aSIz+uGqVl3Xn2FuwR+0ZU= =jheB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Will Yardley blurted > i agree with recent posts about this list. this used to be one of the > lists i enjoyed reading most since most people had good ettiquette > (unlike many other mailing lists i'm on) and since it had a minimum of > useless / rediculously long threads. however i am definitely getting Funny you should say that, I remember the good intentions of this thread: > This has come up at least twice, in great detail, in recent memory. > Check the archives for more so that we don't have to get into it again :-) So much for that :) > close to unsubbing at this point. by all means say something if you have > something constructive to add... but if you don't, then try to think for > a few minutes before posting. How about 'stick around Will, it's not that bad and you give good answers'? Regards, - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UQl9HpvrrTa6L5oRAnWQAJ45YMh5FaTPgFPEuJXQ+iP9YGWojQCfVxHl bziz+FBt1ihZnD1OKPlrQDM= =VkAo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [OT] html email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Roman Neuhauser blurted > Like this? > > if(/^Content-Type: text\/html/ && hasaddr([EMAIL PROTECTED])) > to $MBOXDIR/crap > > X-Warning: had a few beers. Anyone got the equivelant Procmail recipe for dumping mail if it's text/html ot not addressed to you? I use this to get the latter: :0: * !(^[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ~/Mail/Other/suspect Which works fine, adding the ability to weed out html would make it much better. Cheers - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UQcvHpvrrTa6L5oRArLYAJ9ZJE/BSzG2sQuJz4GdSiLJWpnH5wCfWckv gxRpaiLw+xzYmNBOu7RSohk= =AXwa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [OT] html email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Brian Clark blurted > :0: > * ^From.*pc-html-user@domain\.com > /dev/null > > Save yourself from having to explain further. :-) Hehe, yeah, that'd do it! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UQTaHpvrrTa6L5oRAkEHAKCzokSNUNR0+TNA9kCyx8/LJJTfRACeP2X0 l2Yx4ckvrFDOPAQt0uOHkIQ= =5QhN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Ross A. Osborn blurted > Is anybody else getting tired of this debate? Could you fellas take > this off-line somewhere? No! Don't kill it now, I was there at the begining and I've come over all parental at thought of killing such a beutiful monster. > I've been using mutt for a couple of years though I've only been on this > list a couple of weeks. The signal-to-noise ratio here really sucks. Rubbish! ;-) - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UILHHpvrrTa6L5oRAjYuAJ9EDbJJ3OhaWIdDTPfuxtGBe/A2eQCfU2nx TL+iaUsE+cQsvnXElPSfPGs= =1cAn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park blurted > He said "I'm looking for a browser that supports javascript." I don't > know about you, but to me this is equivalent to "What browsers support > javascript?" Is this thread still going? You two are like a couple of late night drinkers. The chairs are up on the tables, the barman keeps looking at his watch and there's bugger all chance of another beer. FWIW that was the way I read that part of this thread. Have fun! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UHrrHpvrrTa6L5oRAgB8AJ9tqRKvGqNzsz1DPAvM2bT9ayUbzwCcCQQo 12e8HAdi1F5lOaN9Y3W88sk= =+QVu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros or hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted > > like this? > > > > set editor="vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'" > > Almost. You can only use the 'thingie' in a macro definition, > $editor is just the editor variable. Thanks Maarten, got it now. One last thing: I wrote 4 macros (r,g,L,m) for the index and then wrote then *again* for the pager. Could I have done that more efficiently? Thanks again - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UHkWHpvrrTa6L5oRAtDwAKCVNr/woKI5gAnYdzJHj/S3GUjtNQCfXssc t/KS+rREYpim0nkFI8Kppcg= =if6w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros or hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then David Champion blurted > The "\n" terminates the ":set editor" command. It's the same action > as pressing the ENTER key. "" inside a macro tells mutt to > execute the function. This is bound to "m" by default. Most > people probably write their macros with keystrokes -- like ":" for > , and "m" for -- but using the binding names makes > your macros more universal, should you wish to share them or to change > your own bindings later in life. Well I did Maatens keystroke way like this: macro index m ":set editor=\"vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'\\\n" macro index r ":set editor=\"vim +'/^$/+1' -c ':set textwidth=72'\\\n" But I must say that I find it confusing, there are unequall " pairs which I guess has something to do wiht \\\n but that too confused me :) Worked though huh? I've settled on: macro index r "set editor=\"vim +'/^$/+1' -c ':set textwidth=72'\"" macro index m "set editor=\"vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'\"" Much easier to read for a dope like me! Thanks very much for all the help it's very much appreciated mutters. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UHa7HpvrrTa6L5oRAvmRAJ9xP2mgQflggFMt7NSqdJXAVks7pQCfcwqT wYw4HZIrX6DIOID4T+fVIHw= =iR3v -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros or hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted > i don't get your question, do you mean how mutt knows when to reply or > compose? that's in the 'm'ail and 'r'eply keys i use. Yes, sorry. I put 2 and 2 together once I'd seen Wills post, and saw the again. Cheers, I'll start messin' with it! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UG70HpvrrTa6L5oRAj7EAJ0ay1KjsPixDUywUbsFiBLIm2d81gCfdTeM +8u51qGf/qJYVJ5AJw1ebcE= =2Ses -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros or hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Will Yardley blurted > why not just use different macros for 'compose' and 'reply' - ie: > (untested) > macro index m ":set editor=blah\n" > macro index r ":set editor=blah\n" > macro index R ":set editor=blah\n" > macro index L ":set editor=blah\n" Ah now I see a pattern, you can put the thingy in the set editor bit. So how might it look with this line: set editor="vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'" like this? set editor="vim +'/^$/' -c ':set textwidth=72'" Thanks for the help guys. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UGznHpvrrTa6L5oRAqwQAKCJEgliIUSj3CTX/2uhmy/oEfwrLwCdH+dT yEhT4S4EpDgrvJ67i70P1Uo= =o7zz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros or hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted > Maybe it's A Good Thing to give an example to ;-), here it is: > > bind index r noop > bind index m noop What's a noop? > macro index m ":set editor=\"vim -c ':0;/Subject'\\\n" > macro index r ":set editor=\"vim -c ':0;/^$'\\\n" Hmmm Yeah, I getcha. How does mutt know how to reply/compose as well though? Is that them noop buggers? Much thanks Maarten. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UGvoHpvrrTa6L5oRAu1MAJ4n7borCtSCBBp8/PcDPviQZz5nWACgtOJs /eiNDeDHiKb/THwBhnqtHkg= =S3Dq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros or hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Maarten den Braber blurted > Can't you bind a macro to the key that you press when replying and when > composing a message? Well, I'm not sure hence the subject line to this thread. If I knew how to do either one I would have done it :) - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UGQ0HpvrrTa6L5oRAictAJkBI4uWK8Ps/N0wrVqJDI8zgyv3/QCgmceJ PgNkX/loH7Na/qY0dJP2ltE= =SQ1O -END PGP SIGNATURE-
macros or hook?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I want to use a different $editor var whenever I either *reply* to or *compose* a message. Reason being a different cursor starting point for each one (on the attribution for replying and on the top line for composing). I'm not sure how to do it, I looked at hooks but didn't see one that seemed to fit? Thanks.... - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UE9XHpvrrTa6L5oRAt/VAJ9oFRWG+gHLBsxx5haBsmme9RRPrACdFOMs anX6LenYCNdUK6MwT+3Uqi8= =5Haa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: multipart/alternative
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then JT blurted > Sounds like someone sent a part that got base-64 encoded. There should be > something like a filename or some information in the Content-headers for > that part which tell you something about it. Yes, it was base-64 encoded. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UEIkHpvrrTa6L5oRAk1DAJ9y8G4PfEbs1srBek1d808AN0BXBgCghzEL m0Qkdq8X3pcYLj/bTHbAbAA= =lkYI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: macros help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Michael Tatge blurted > I bet that works, except you press the wrong keys. :) > Ctrl-d is \cd in mutt. See manual section 3.3. Not sure I get you there but I eventually solved it by using '^D' as opposed to '^d' Cheers - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UDxcHpvrrTa6L5oRApgwAJ0fpW1iBsmOhYaQ9y55tAMYhIRsdACdHBN8 YBACsOZ58lWVzYL1I9Mr1kQ= =vc+e -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [OT] html email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Gary Johnson blurted > It depends on how you have mutt configured. I have my mailcap file and > auto_view command set up to display HTML attachments as plain text in > mutt's pager and have display_filter set to remove the "[-- ... --]" > lines that mutt adds. Except for a slight delay as the longer Could you post that line? That /is/ kind of annoying seeing those lines. Saying that though I would still like an idicator that it is indeed html mail. > I receive a lot of internal memos from administrative assistants > (formerly known as secretaries) formatted as HTML. I used to explain to And still collectively known as 'Doris' in some male dominated firms, or so I've heard (ahem) ;) > 2. I got tired of explaining text-only MUAs to them only to receive > comments like, "I guess Unix isn't very good if it can't even > display different colors and fonts like my PC can. When are you > guys going to start using Windows?" Classic, that's the kind of comment that gets me all raging and frothing at the mouth. What do you say to comments like that? There's no point, they'll never get it :( > 3. In all fairness [donning flame suit now], HTML e-mail looks better > to most users than does plain text. You can change the font, you > can put individual words or titles in bold or italics. The > presentation is just nicer. A lot of people take pride in how their Yes, it's a good point. I don't think you need your flame suit, it's a point worth making. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UDsXHpvrrTa6L5oRApRrAJ4rir0uBzkhVyWIhTNgsThxjK6rPACePb0b pothWYXHKt9iQZBUalN/in0= =aBWa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: char % as quote
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Anh Lai blurted > How do I make mutt color lines starting with % as a quote just like > set indent_string="% " > apparently David only uses this, and i would like to learn how to add % > as a quote indicator. Oh boy, are you in for it! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UDjxHpvrrTa6L5oRAuYrAJsGl+UYnFJKeX0Cg3XvMb9h4PdUsgCfaYLE d/ufxQlCmI4wbmqYEK+XOok= =FdFs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Filtering of incoming email directly to folders.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Jason Nealis blurted > Two quick questions : > > 1) Can mutt automatically take incoming mail and push it into a mail folder, for >instance > take all mail addressed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and push that into my mail folder >mutt-users. > I tried to do this with save-hooks but it didn't work. Should I use procmail >instead? > Yep, procmail it is! if you like you can mail me off list and I'll send you over my .procmailrc to have a look at. All my mutt stuff goes in ~/Mail/Lists/mutt-users and similar with other lists. Also it's nice to have a special mutt trash file. Not sure on your second point though I'm sure someone will be :) - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8UClZHpvrrTa6L5oRAlgFAJ4+NAWAFBNKsJ1MjtlURp6Rff2BDgCgia9C Vutl+dlwCRXmcktO9PRcMhA= =+QMf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
macros help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone. I have this line in my rc file macro pager d which makes sure that when I delete a message I'm taken back to the index. I'd like to do the same thing if I decide to delete a thread. I've tried the following... macro pager ^d to no avail. Anyone spot what I'm doing wrong? Much thanks - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8T+rwHpvrrTa6L5oRAozkAKCpTMweQmy0klXdJfzI+OVt4R2WNgCgraWT Uj3o0FwpaeE2qVGGdxLxJDE= =Fh7P -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [OT] html email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Thomas Huemmler blurted > if you are using Debian, you can install the dictd Dictionary Server, > the dict Client and the Jargon File with the command Hmmm... Actually I'm RedHat but I'm sure I can do something similar, I've bookmarked the page but have not had time for more than a quick glance as of yet. Thanks - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8T+W1HpvrrTa6L5oRAg5vAJ9HlMA163ZDKt1taO5rZ4gnbO2OhwCdHCC+ jS2X7yXDncSbPJhlRGAUko8= =2DMi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Guide.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurted > > Have you been to www.mutt.org ? > > Yes. Well, it's all there. Try www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-2.html (getting started) and www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3 (for the set editor bit) - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8T9u1HpvrrTa6L5oRAjIbAKCM10OKRygjM14wi/Xm8h1pE8RadgCeKl2V tNCXdosCvYGvqVP4lZA5iz4= =zscA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Guide.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurted > Or better how do I start a mutt e-mail ??. > > How do I set Midnight Commander to be the editor for mutt ??. Have you been to www.mutt.org ? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8T9fYHpvrrTa6L5oRArpWAJ4347XJgUX6k514TboBYb5JUjU8wgCcDPe4 gVbq/DxIQoOGJFmG9BmQ9ME= =k/i3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Deleting Mass emails..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Jeremy Blosser blurted > On Jan 23, Jason Nealis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > What's the easyiest way to delete message 1-2000? > > D~m 1-2000 > > D - delete-pattern > ~m 1-2000 - pattern for messages 1-2000 Would that make it D~m * if I wanted to completely empty a mailbox? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8T8XzHpvrrTa6L5oRAj/NAJwPXt3iIpfCa+7W6JMPh7Mfo9ovKgCdFrLX 8CL9WZxNo/LXrYgZb7/eDbY= =3G2n -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: multipart/alternative
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then JT blurted > As to an idiots guide to mime types, I don't think so. The best you can > get is ... 'read the RFCs' and 'pray' :) Yeah. Thanks guys, reason I asked was that I've gotten a couple of odd mails from one of the w3c lists i'm on. multipart/alternative and when I open if it's just full of stuff that looks very much like a pgp sig, only *much* longer? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8T8UzHpvrrTa6L5oRAuk7AJ9lCbdyTb8LUB4BdChYzHxLgdc8jACeOlVK 8UtrpHceJ4fer8AI6iH/Bkk= =JR+r -END PGP SIGNATURE-
multipart/alternative
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'ello What kind of monster is would a message containing multipart/alternative be? Is there somewhere that gives idiots guides to mime types? Cheers... - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TyrwHpvrrTa6L5oRAsfHAKC1nv2xXD7VXtplYFnLREckpB/zgwCdG6L0 G76LcgMG9xppQK018yKKFfc= =7zCx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park blurted > Yes, but the same could be said for all quoted text, so why quote at > all? That's a good point! A few people went a little 'foaming at the mouth' on this topic over tha last few days but it all boils down to just a little tolerance of what others perceive as necessary quoting and I may not. As long as no one get's really quote happy all is well :) - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TyQWHpvrrTa6L5oRApyyAJ9FYt3bXVsYiqHyn9Y+9NnbAhzBvACffzGz z5D82wg0HTPmeLWWCzgo4cI= =VjiW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to change xterm title depending on current mailbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Dan Boger blurted > > I guess something like this? (I'm not a vim guru though) > > set editor="vim -c 'set tw=72 et;:0;/^$'" My Vim didn't like that but I think I've got it licked now :) Cheers - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TclXHpvrrTa6L5oRApGiAJ4yuXOSDIGsaNr9APbz8hc43bQaZgCfYyOK bdlAsdToZY3J6DZJaWNtz6g= =80Ux -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * and then Christian Schoepplein blurted > > > And you can add hard coded font sizes in websites to that list, I know > > you can overide stylesheets but it's annoying to have to go to such > > lengths to read sites like cnn.com. > > No, the problem is, that I have to work on the textbased console if I want > to use linux, becouse there is no screenreader (speech or brailleoutput) > for totaly blind people which makes the grafical enviroment > (kde etc.) accessible. So I have to use for example lynx to visit > websites, but lynx has no support for javascript. There are > windowsscreenreaders who can handle javascript (for example jaws), but I > don't want to use windows to much ;-). Linux is a perfect system for blind > computerusers and even if you are restricted on the textbased enviroment Is this because of the keystroke vs mouse click thing? I've been using more and more console apps over the last few months and generally find that programs like Mutt are sooo worth the initial learning curve with regard my eyesight /and/ general ease of use. I'd love it if you could send me (off list I think) any useful links on this topic. > problems for my: The first is the webbrowser and the second is an > officeaplication wich is compartible with the ms-office (I sometimes hav > to write text in word for my job). Yeah, I can imagine. Lynx is great but only really good for techy sites and manuals and stuff. No idea about compatible office software, I use Star Office in X but even that isn't /really/ compatible. Take care - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8Tb1OHpvrrTa6L5oRAp3lAJsEW5C9HAGrIOQ9uDHsmz4NDr0uqgCfZFgv F2tpJwuaCncMSDGM/YPcofI= =K2HT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to change xterm title depending on current mailbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 22-01-02 at 19:31 * Dan Boger said > I have in my muttrc this line: > > set editor="vim -u ~/.mutt/vimrc -c ':0;/^$'" > > which will tell vim to start after the headers, so I'll be positioned to > trim the quoted text. Fantastic! How might I incorporate a tw command in that? This is what I have for mine (nicked it from somewhere else so I don't understand all of it but it works :) set editor="vim -c 'set tw=72 et'" Mucho grassy arse - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TbURHpvrrTa6L5oRAvSXAJ9sbhxBcF5WNXd+K8JYjhQe2jdGGACeItFR 31lPnCLt8Ec6DwBndUW6EZc= =uNLE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: back to quoting (was "Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers")
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 22-01-02 at 15:58 * David T-G said > % Anyone remember the subject or something of that thread, I'd like to > % have a look at it. > The subject was 'Quoting when replying', and it got nasty around 12/17. Whooa! That was almost as ugly as this thread has been in places. Geeks can be real bitchy huh? - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TbJqHpvrrTa6L5oRAorcAKCASWiA1sQyC1PxIE+2kSDr6cR3yACeKjQI VX4wX416f+TpdhFnb5h4sdY= =hRxI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to change xterm title depending on current mailbox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 22-01-02 at 18:51 * Christoph Kampe said > Is there any folder-hook, to change the xterm-title displaying the name > of the mailbox i'm changing in? Why? Sorry I can't answer, just curious :) - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TacsHpvrrTa6L5oRAtHwAJ9PthZAQha3raBNSlurPW+VDKtJGACeIVOw 4uRqpdXceGgL4B3oquDQDSM= =idmr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 22-01-02 at 18:08 * Christian Schoepplein said > I agree 100%!!! To quote mails in the right way is helpful for anyboody > and not only for blind or visually handicapped persons. I'm a blind > computeruser and I get mor then 1000 mails the day and its really not > funny to grub thru this messages, if they are quoted badly. I don't need I don't think there's anyone who wouldn't agree with you on that point! You don't *read* 1000 messages a day do you :) > is good enough to handle most things quite well. But it annoyes me if > unnecesary techniques were used, to get very simple things working. For > example javaskript or flash are often difficult to handle for blind > linuxusers, but many persons using this crap to setup a simple website. It And you can add hard coded font sizes in websites to that list, I know you can overide stylesheets but it's annoying to have to go to such lengths to read sites like cnn.com. > Just my 0.2$ to this monsterthread ;-). Yep, and it's still growing! - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TZ7rHpvrrTa6L5oRAkUqAJ9nPFyuB/ysINBFFDVOHLGekzZRmACfRTdf B8RvBKrp+E/4HXpwni7jue8= =OUXC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: text-input-problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 22-01-02 at 16:45 * Knute said > So set it up to edit your headers in your text editor, that way you can > see what it is and make sure it's right. Covering old ground here min gamle ven (I'm guessing you'll understand that bit!) David TG covered this. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TY6gHpvrrTa6L5oRAqt4AKC0H0aOg1PtjTVcOvRodm4Pc3p+rwCaAr4A zO5uaACq+vfmYir6voExOg0= =4xpY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 22-01-02 at 15:06 * Brian Clark said > * David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 22. 2002 05:21]: > > > % for, but it was the thread where someone was picking on Dave's (%) > > % quote prefix. (I gather this isn't the first time someone on the > > % list has picked on him about that prefix. ;-)) Anyone remember the subject or something of that thread, I'd like to have a look at it. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TXQdHpvrrTa6L5oRApvUAKCOJy3m9U9MGRbQoJ2kgS5wJbaB7QCfShO4 pc+o725D0Wc3tBxH3CvMa3M= =zSm+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Printer [pos. little OT]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all I've been looking at the different variables associated with the print function and can't work out why Mutt is telling me 'Printer: Nothing to print'? I'm sure it's me being daft but if anyone can point out where I'm going wrong here that would be great. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8TXKfHpvrrTa6L5oRAmzyAJ0UbcWVhN1iHlXH2TpFIme0rlNuUgCffQYy a4hqjOpCjXnhNYqK4L/tgpk= =84eZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
* On 22-01-02 at 12:43 * René Clerc said > > > Apart from the useful links, you're missing the point. Cameron was > > > saying that the amount of time spent trimming is _outweighed_ by the > > > time saved. That means that he means that one _should_ trim! > > > > This is not correct at all. It is just lazyness as you also > > demonstrated. It took me max 2 seconds to trim this mail. This is getting silly, although I'm kinda glad to see that I'm not the only one getting flamed by the ridiculously righteous anymore (sorry Rene :) > > You're overdoing it. You're *way* overdoing it. Get back to my mail. > If I just quoted you, it would start with "Bullshit". I think it would > be convenient for the readers to read *in context* (that means, in the > same mail) what you think is bullshit. Here, here, behave Preben your being somewhat over zealos at best and downright silly at worst. -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com msg23537/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
