Re: yes/no bug
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 05:46:29PM -0700, Martin Siegert wrote: Is there a way to tell mutt to display the correct prompt (y/n), e.g., Create /home/siegert/Mail/xyz? ([y]/n): other than editing the source code? No. You could play around with doing this via a language modification (see HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR) or just by changing the yes/no strings in (curs_lib.c) int mutt_yesorno. -- rjbs msg31479/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt, SSH and Urlview
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 02:34:37PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 10:55]: well - complain to your winxp dealer then! you have *paid* for the damn thing, right? No. My boss. see ? so it is either your boss's problem or you are using a system you did not pay for? Jeez, Sven, settle down. His boss has provided him with a workstation running WinXP, and it's causing him an annoyance. He wants to get around it. As Bolderman's boss presumably doesn't give two turds about his happiness, it isn't Bolderman's boss's problem. There are plenty of people who suffer from Windows this way, and they don't need to be kicked while they're down. -- rjbs msg31501/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Auto Reply?
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 10:04:15AM -0500, Fred Dech wrote: hi. i'm going out of town for a week tomorrow. i've never done an auto-reply (i'm out of town till next year) type of thing. i checked some mutt FAQs and sifted through man mutt and man muttrc but didn't see anything alluding to this sort of thing. is this something i can do with Mutt in a relatively straightforward manner? This isn't mutt's field of expertise. Look at using something like procmail or maildrop, or even 'vacation.' Your local MTA probably hands off messages for local delivery to some MDA. Look at the files .forward or .qmail in your home directory, and/or consult your local wizards or M(D|T)A documentation. -- rjbs msg31216/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: reread configuration file
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 10:31:26PM +0200, Hans Ginzel wrote: can mutt reread hiis configuration file ~/.muttrc? Has mutt command source like VIM? It's so similar, it's got the same name. Please look at the man page for muttrc. You'll find an entry for the command source. source filename The given file will be evaluated as a configuration file. -- rjbs msg31229/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: clear-flag at last message
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 10:20:18AM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: * Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-19 20:46 -0400]: [...] I can't find a way to force clear-flag not to move, nor can I find a way to get back to where I was, taking into account the move that may result from clear-flag. Is there a solution other than hacking the source? Yes. From the fine manual: | 6.3.208 resolve Man! I searched, with no joy. I'll put some $resolve toggling in there. Thanks. -- rjbs msg31076/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
clear-flag at last message
The following lines are in my .vimrc: fcc-hook . =sent/`date +%Y/%m` macro index \\ Wnk\$s=spam/`date +%Y/%m`\r macro pager \\ \$s=spam/`date +%Y/%m`\r The idea is that \ marks a message as spam by saving it to the current spam folder. I must commit my changes to the IMAP Server before saving the message, or it will appear in the spam folder as unread. In the pager macro, I can just commit changes with $, because by virtue of having entered the pager, the message is marked read. When in the index, I must set the message unread with Wn, but this moves me to the next message in the index. If I am already on the last message, I remain on that message. I had added k after Wn to move back up, but if the message on which I hit '\' was the last message, this results in saving the next-to-last message to the spam folder. I can't find a way to force clear-flag not to move, nor can I find a way to get back to where I was, taking into account the move that may result from clear-flag. Is there a solution other than hacking the source? -- rjbs msg31063/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Returning to the mail spool
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 01:55:33AM +0100, kevin lyda wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 01:50:30AM +0100, Anthony Edwards wrote: Heh. I don't want to go to my inbox; I want to go to my *mail spool*. I don't think it can be done (without quitting and staring Mutt again), but I'd like to if it is possible. changing to ! *is* your mail spool. please try these things before giving up. For the sake of completeness, I offer Anthony this quote from the manual: 4.7 Mailbox Shortcuts There are a number of built in shortcuts which refer to specific mailboxes. These shortcuts can be used anywhere you are prompted for a file or mailbox path. ! -- refers to your $spoolfile (incoming) mailbox -- rjbs msg31065/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RFE: regex backrefs
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:57:13PM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: While this might look simple, it's more difficult to implement than you might think. Why? Becuse the regexp here is not just one regular No, I know how difficult it is. ;) At any rate, your example above can be solved as follows: #!/bin/sh for i in ~/Mail/friends.*; do echo folder-hook $i my_hdr From: jsmith-`echo $i|sed 's;^.*\.;;'`@friends.domain.org; done Yeah, I do something roughly like that, now. I've just always thought it'd be more elegant and generically useful to have backrefs. :) -- rjbs msg30044/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: most commonly used regex lib for awk/frep/mutt/sed?
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:47:37PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * Erik Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-01 07:48]: While procmail seems to be out on a long plank in the middle of a swamp, it would be cosmically empowering to be able to move between mutt, vim, awk, and grep without tripping over too many differences in regex dialects. Is this too ambitious a wish? unfortunately, yes. let's assume you could make this change within a day. how many setup files, scripts, shell aliases etc would have to be adjusted? can you give this service? ./configure --enable-pcre echo ~/.muttrc set pcre_acknowledge=on # to avoid PCRE warnings on startup -- rjbs msg30052/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: most commonly used regex lib for awk/frep/mutt/sed?
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 08:22:36AM -0400, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: echo ~/.muttrc set pcre_acknowledge=on # to avoid PCRE warnings on startup Ok, so I don't know how to call echo, and s/=on/yes/ Still, you get the picture. -- rjbs msg30054/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RFE: regex backrefs
I know this has been brought up before, but I just thought I'd voice my deep desire: mutt should be able to have backrefs to its regexen. If I get a 'vote' in future development, this is how I would cast it. My C is crappy, or I'd shut up and code it. Imagine the power available in something as simple as: folder-hook =friends\.([a-z]+) my_hdr From: jsmith-\[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is only a tiny fraction of the Supreme Cosmic Power that this could unlock. -- rjbs msg29996/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RFE: regex backrefs
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 05:08:25PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: my deep desire: mutt should be able to have backrefs to its regexen. this reminds me: how hard would it be to make mutt use libpcre? And, how much would it slow down / bloat up mutt, if at all? -- rjbs msg29997/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Form Letters
Does anyone have a good method for writing form letters with mutt? Ideally, I'd like to have a folder that acts like drafts, but doesn't store To information and doesn't delete messages once they're sent. Maybe the best thing is to make a keybinding that changes the value of $postponed and some other variables temporarily. Does anyone have a pre-packaged solution for this? -- rjbs msg28298/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [mutt-users] Form Letters
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 11:45:31AM -0400, Tim Kennedy wrote: I just store them as dot-files. in my home directory, and using vim as my editor just read them in with :r .file. I thought I might do that -- but it'd be nice to have the postponed-style choose for form letters. :) -- rjbs msg28301/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Form Letters
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:45:46AM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Ricardo SIGNES said... % Ideally, I'd like to have a folder that acts like drafts, but doesn't store % To information and doesn't delete messages once they're sent. Have you looked at resend-message (bound to esc-e by default)? It uses a message as a template, and you could probably store the template without a To: list and then fill it in (probably also even using aliases). I don't think it deletes the message once it's resent. Play with it and see. I hadn't ( looked at | thought of ) that yet. I'll give it a try, it might be just what I want. % Maybe the best thing is to make a keybinding that changes the value of % $postponed and some other variables temporarily. Perhaps a universal binding that quickly changes you to =Drafts and then a binding in there that maps enter to resend-message so that you don't have to hit esc-e... Well, I won't want to store these in =drafts, as I'll constantly get bugged about recall postponed? -- which is nice when it was postponed, but annoying if I just have form letters. Changing to =forms, though, and doing that... I think I'll do this: make a one-keystroke binding to switch to =forms put a folder-hook on forms to remap enter make a default folder-hook to map enter normally I'll let y'all know how it goes. -- rjbs msg28303/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Form Letters
My solution (JEEZ! I love mutt!): macro index Escf c=forms\r folder-hook . bind index return display-message folder-hook . bind index escreturn noop folder-hook =forms bind index return resend-message folder-hook =forms bind index escreturn display-message Should require no explanation. Thanks for the idea! -- rjbs msg28305/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Form Letters
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 11:19:02AM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Ricardo SIGNES said... % folder-hook . bind index return display-message % folder-hook . bind index escreturn noop Quite good of you to clean up after yourself, but how worried are you really that you might accidentally hit esc-enter in a non-form folder and suddenly be thrust into the pager when you didn't expect it? That is, you might find it simpler to just leave the esc-enter macro active all of the time. Well, now that those lines are in .muttrc, it'd be more work to remove them than not! :) -- rjbs msg28309/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: procmail, \/, and mailing lists.
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 11:48:45PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
I know I could do something like this (untested):
:0:
* ^TO_\/.*@qux\.com
~/mail/$MATCH
But, the problem being that the foldernames would be the actual address
of the list ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of 'foo', which is what I really
want).
I do something like this, and use sed.
Try something like this (untested):
MLIST=`echo $MATCH | sed -e 's/\(foo\|bar\|baz)@qux\.com*/\1/i'`
~/mail/$MLIST
--
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Re: IMAP Subscription and Mailboxes
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:00:50PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Is there a way to tell mutt to either: % a) use my IMAP subscriptions as my 'mailboxes' (to check for new mail) % b) tell mutt to consider all mailboxes as 'mailboxes' No, not really. :-( % I don't like having to list all of my 50+ folders, to which procmail writes, % just to have it tell me if there's new mail in them. So whip up a little script that goes through your procmail rules and grabs where you write and source that in your mailboxes line. My procmail rules use regexes to generate folder names on the fly! Oh well. Maybe I'll just try and putz with the mutt source. -- rjbs msg26659/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP Subscription and Mailboxes
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:57:51AM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Ricardo SIGNES said... % My procmail rules use regexes to generate folder names on the fly! Hmmm... So have procmail generate the folder name and then hand it off to a script which checks a list to see if it's known and adds it if it isn't and then have your mutt mailboxes script utilize that file, mebbe. I'm thinking I'll make a Makefile for my .muttrc. It's getting scary, anyway. % Oh well. Maybe I'll just try and putz with the mutt source. That's always nice, too. Let us know if you come up with anything! I will. But expect nothing! -- rjbs msg26687/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
IMAP Subscription and Mailboxes
Hello! Is there a way to tell mutt to either: a) use my IMAP subscriptions as my 'mailboxes' (to check for new mail) b) tell mutt to consider all mailboxes as 'mailboxes' I don't like having to list all of my 50+ folders, to which procmail writes, just to have it tell me if there's new mail in them. -- rjbs msg26641/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: OS / distro / kernel
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 07:47:29AM -0800, Michael Elkins wrote: Mike Schiraldi wrote: Except that Linux is only the kernel. Linux + GNU + some other files and configuration is the OS. That, plus some applications is the distribution. You're wrong. How is he wrong? In the computer science sense, an operating system is the piece of software which interfaces with the hardware. In many cases this is just the kernel. Generically people refer to as OS as the collection of all software plus the kernel. But technically, the Linux kernel is an operating system in the true sense of the word (all the user apps aren't really necessary to run the computer, they're just a convenience ;-). Like many other definitions of recent concepts, this is not hard and fast, and depends on where you find your definition. I will gladly cede that in oldskool UNIX parlance, the kernel is the operating system, and even such low-level programs as init(8) are technically user-space apps. Generally, though, it's been my experience that the usage of 'operating system' now refers also to user-space system-controlling processes. Probably, this could be considered a bastardization stemming from DOS's monolithic stance on OS tasks. The question of which is right is probably flame material. We both have our reasons to say we're right. Based on something like Bach's Design of the UNIX Operating System, the kernel is technically the OS. Based on the definition of GNU, many user-space applications are also the OS. And that's all I have to say about that. -- rjbs msg26361/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:33:36AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: Think of it as like a Linux distribution. Linux is the OS, RedHat or Debian is the distribution. Saying Solaris is like saying Debian, only slower and less free. :-) Except that Linux is only the kernel. Linux + GNU + some other files and configuration is the OS. That, plus some applications is the distribution. -- rjbs msg26323/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how much CPU?
On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 07:49:54AM -0800, Ken Weingold wrote: I have one mailbox that has A LOT of messages in it, as in quite a few thousand. It is in mbox format. For mutt to open it as quickly as possible, it is dependent on processor speed? I moved my mail to a It's dependent on a lot of things: hard drive speed, processor speed, and memory. IE: all those hardware issues. I'd suggest using Maildir instead of mbox -- my experience has been that Maildir is faster. There's much less to worry about in parsing a Maildir entry -- every file is one message and starts with headers. There's more fh opening and closing, to be sure, but you may find it faster. Give it a try. -- rjbs msg23863/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: available MDA's: are you satisfied?
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:58:20AM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: looks like there's just two MDA's in use: Procmail, and Maildrop. Both have their fine (and not so fine) points, which I'll summarize briefly (YMMV): Consider perl's Mail::Audit module. -- rjbs
Re: naming the pgp sig attachment.
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:01:47AM -0500, Walt Mankowski wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 01:57:47PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: Is there a way of giving the gpg signiture a default name like 'nicks_electronic_signiture' or something equally as clear? On some clients it's coming up labled the same as the subject and on others, some weird default like 'attach0023' Most confusing. Why do you care what the attachment is named? Mutt should take care of everything for you behind the scenes. For people who don't run mutt and basically never will, but to whom we wish to speak anyway (my mom, for example), attachments like AT029102.TXT are confusing. If it was called SIGNATURE.TXT or something, she might more easily understand it and ignore it. Et cetera. -- rjbs msg22581/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: signed emails, why ?
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:52:25PM +, Steve Kennedy wrote: Why does everyone send signed emails to the list, is it always necessary ? It slows reading down, and digests dont look so nice ... I can understand that certain things should be signed, but it seems more than not are now signed. This was answered on the list less than a week ago. My answer, one of a few: Signing messages, even if their content is harmless and relatively unimportant is a good practise. If you only sign 'important' messages, then it's easy for people to forge messages from you -- they don't need to sign it. The policy should be that if it isn't signed, it isn't from you. If you sign everything, that policy is realistic. If you sign only some messages, it is not. -- rjbs msg22447/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why use pgp with mutt?
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:54:46PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: Hi folks I've been seeing 'pgp signitures' and suchlike since joining this group and I'm a bit baffled. Why the need to encrypt harmless text? It looks interesting and I wondered if you might share some opinions and pointers with me? Ah, you mistake signature and encryption! :) A signature is just that -- it's a cryptographic message that proves that you 'signed' (and, presumably) sent a message. If I send you a message that I've signed with gpg, you can be sure that I wrote it. (Or at least that I approved it.) Even without GPG, though, you can read the body of the message, as it isn't encrypted. Signing messages, even if their content is harmless and relatively unimportant is a good practise. If you only sign 'important' messages, then it's easy for people to forge messages from you -- they don't need to sign it. The policy should be that if it isn't signed, it isn't from you. If you sign everything, that policy is realistic. If you sign only some messages, it is not. No one sends encrypted messages to a mailing list unless there's a shared key for decrypting messages -- and that would be an unusual situation. -- rjbs msg22287/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Browser problem on text/html
On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 06:43:58PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
When I receive an email in text/html, I do the following
press 'v' and then the enter key.
I then receive the following error message:
sh: syntax error near unexpected token `openURL(''
sh: -c: line 1: `netscape -remote openURL('/tmp/muttJQ7lNS')'
Easy to fix!
1)What can I do to correct this and launch a browser?
You need to set up how MIME message types are handled, and change that netscape
line to work with (a) your shell (b) your browser.
2)Where is documentation on this?
Read `man 5 muttrc`, specifically the section on auto_view. It will further
direct you to `man 5 mailcap`, which is the system config file for MIME type
handling.
Happy mutting.
--
rjbs
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coloring the indicator
YACQ: I'd really like to colorize my indicator. I no longer use %Z in my index_format, and use index coloring to pass along the flag-info I care about. Unfortunately, that means that I can't tell what's up with the message currently under the indicator. Any hints on using patterns to hilight the indicator somehow? -- rjbs PGP signature
Colorizing Headers full width
Hello! I have some rules in my .muttrc to colorize headers. Here's an example: color hdrdefault brightwhite blue This colorizes the header only until the end of the string. This is pretty ugly when the string is, say, 30 characters long. I'd like to make it colorize all the way until the end of the line on which the header terminates. Is there a trick? -- rjbs PGP signature
Colorizing Headers full width
Hello! I have some rules in my .muttrc to colorize headers. Here's an example: color hdrdefault brightwhite blue This colorizes the header only until the end of the string. This is pretty ugly when the string is, say, 30 characters long. I'd like to make it colorize all the way until the end of the line on which the header terminates. Is there a trick? -- rjbs PGP signature
mostly-generic mutt hooks
Greetings. I'd like to set up a folder hook so that when entering a folder that looks like =bar/foo, my From is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] While I know I can do this pretty easily with one folder hook per folder, I wonder if I can use regex to simplify it. For example, something like folder-hook /=(\d+)/(\d)+/ set from_addr=samael-$2@$1.manxome.org (I know this is probably quite wrong. I have less-than-extensive experience with mutt regex and hooks. I wrote my muttrc and forgot about it -- but I remember basically how it works. I assume going back to normal can be handled with a simple !pattern... Any suggestions? -- rjbs PGP signature
Re: Newsgroups
In a message dated Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 04:06:50PM -0700, Ryan Cook wrote: OK...I don't see it anywhere in the man pages or the Mutt manual. Is there a way to subscribe to newsgroups through the use of Mutt...or view newsgroups in Mutt...like if I want to sign up for alt.comp.os.linux or something? Mutt is a mail user agent, not a news client. I suggest you google for 'slrn'. It's my preferred news agent. -- rjbs PGP signature
