Re: List management headers
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:22:08PM -0500, Tim Gray wrote: Many mailing lists tuck links and addresses useful for list management in the headers, like List-Unsubscribe and List-Help. I looked around in the manual and in Google, but I couldn't find much. I'm assuming this means mutt commands based on the info in these headers don't exist. Am I correct here? It would be nice to have commands available to display those urls in the headers, or send an email to List-Help or List-Unsubscribe. If you look at the headers you'll find direct instructions for these lists? Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 7993 2612 / US +1 310 857 7715 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/.Mac/Twitter/FriendFeed stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com MSN st...@gbnet.net
Re: New Servers
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 09:13:50PM +0100, Christian Brabandt wrote: Hi Steve! On So, 10 Jan 2010, Steve Kennedy wrote: The mail (and web) servers have been migrated to a new platform, hopefully all should be running smoothly, but let me know if there are problems. I just want to take this opportunity to say thank you for taking care that everything works so smoothly and that this mailing list works so nice without problems. So far so good (fingers crossed). Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 7993 2612 / US +1 310 857 7715 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/.Mac/Twitter/FriendFeed stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com MSN st...@gbnet.net
New Servers
The mail (and web) servers have been migrated to a new platform, hopefully all should be running smoothly, but let me know if there are problems. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 7993 2612 / US +1 310 857 7715 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/.Mac/Twitter/FriendFeed stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com MSN st...@gbnet.net
Re: Mutt and Microsoft Exchange
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 09:17:11AM -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote: I find myself in a tough situation. The mailserver at my work is running Microsoft Exchange. For security reasons, the sysadmin says, IMAP and POP are disabled. From what I understand, Exchange uses some different proprietary protocol (I want to say NTLM, but I couldn't dig up enough information to be sure if that's right) to transfer mail. My problem, then, is that I want to configure mutt to be able to read mail through this server but I don't know how to do that. Is there a way? [snip] I don't know of any native solution for mutt using the Exchange protocol or operating via the Exchange web interface... maybe someone else does. Obviously Evolution has a connector that doesn't use IMAP/POP, so there's probably hope. :) Exchange uses MAPI, MS's proprietry protocol. Evolution uses MS's web access protocol, which is a hack. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44-(0)7775 755503 UK +44-(0)20 79932612 / US +1-(310)8577715 / Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com
Re: message dates
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 04:33:55PM +0100, Fintan Gaughan wrote: I can't get off this mailing list for love nor money :-( Instructions are in the headers of EVERY message the list sends out. If you kept the original subscription message, it also tells you how to un sub. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44-(0)7775 755503 UK +44-(0)20 79932612 / US +1-(310)8577715 / Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com
Re: http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html -- Request to change
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote: a few seconds ago, I wanted to re-subscribe under a different name on http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html A thing I did not like there was the way how you offer the different mailing lists: You offer them as radio-buttons instead of checkboxes. Why? Using mozilla 1.0, I was not unable to uncheck a radio-button without pressing Reset. This deleted also my email address. Would anyone of the administrators mind changing the radio-buttons into checkboxes? The idea was that you should only sub to the main list or the digest list (i.e. either/or) which is why radio buttons are used. You're the first to complain. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: List Charter? - www.guckes.net/mutt/mail.php3
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:42:28AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * Kurt Lieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-03 22:23]: Is there a list charter anywhere for mutt-users? The majordomo info was less than helpful (see mutt.org for info) try http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/mail.php3#etiquette i have put together a bit of info about these topic: attachments, bug reports, crossposts, from line, signatures, and top posts. feedback welcome - as usual. It seems like the focus for this list is decidedly more narrow than is the norm for most other lists... not everything is appropriate for the mutt lists. If someone puts one together, I'll add it to the info ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: List problems?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:26:40AM -0400, PeterKorman wrote: Who is the kind person responsible for the mutt.org server? Is it possible they lost a disk, or ran out of space, or their firewall went kabluey now blocking everything? Is is it now ok to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since thats the only thing that works? I host the list ... I believe a colleague may have done some mail reconfiguration on Friday, I'll check nothing's changed, and put things back to normal if they have !!! Sorry if things have broken ... unfortunately I've been away from access since Thurs ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: List problems? - gbnet.net problem?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 02:42:54AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-29 23:24]: On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, John Iverson wrote: I am recently only seeing list messages that are (mis)addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. And there is an error message at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mutt-users/messages that says: Warning! Your group has exceeded its message storage limits of 64 MB by 0.0 MB. If you don't remove messages, older messages will be deleted to make room for new ones. yeah i not getting any messages from the list since saterday... Mutt 1.4i: =IN/MUTT (threads) [69/47071] [NEW=40058] [~d 26/9/2002-] so - 69 messages since 26th September... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i won't fall for this... no no... perhaps the problem is only with addresses who subscribed to the gbnet.net addresses? Sorry there was a problem this end, trouble is I dont control the mutt.org domain, and we made a mail change on Friday to investigate a TCP problem. Forgot the mutt mail would get stuck, so currently clearing about 600 queued messages, but unfortunately I'd guess most of them will be SPAM. Things should be returning to normal ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: New mail to list.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:02:26PM +0100, Dave Smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:20:09PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list? The same way you compose a new message to a person - hit 'n' and type the list address, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may want to cut-and-paste the list address, or configure it as an alias. Of course 'm' might be better ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: List slow?
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:43:59PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: * David T-G [2002-06-06 16:15:42 CEST] wrote: I forget how mutt-users is set up, but could you have turned off metoo (in the list config, not muttrc) when you weren't looking? Hmm, I thought this list is run by majordomo. I've only recognized the 'metoo' feature by Mailman (which is an even more worse decission). They are, however many features added locally. But anyways, what's the problem if messages take 2 hours to be delivered? 2 or 3 days are really a bit long, but this ain't chat, imho. Could be many problems, using mj_inject into qmail. Maybe there was a error connecting to your mailserver, so qmail backed off ? Could be lots of reasons ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: gpg mutt
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:50:46PM -0600, Peter T. Abplanalp wrote: i have mutt set up with gpg. when verifying a message, gpg gives the following output: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Wed Jun 5 13:45:19 2002) --] gpg: Signature made Wed Jun 5 13:24:25 2002 MDT using DSA key ID D654075A gpg: Good signature from Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka Todd free??[EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka free??[EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. gpg: Fingerprint: 0A55 D9D6 055E E2B9 99E9 7817 BAFF B4F4 D654 075A [-- End of PGP output --] however, mutt then says PGP signature could NOT be verified. is that because of the warning that the key in not certified with a trusted signature or is there some problem? it seems to me from the gpg output that the signature was verified to have been signed with the public key but that the key wasn't certified by a trust path. now, i'm not picky about what one says versus the other or about what one or the other thinks is verified v. certified, i'm just curious as to what the story is. anyone? thanks, I have exactly the same issue ... Mutt 1.4i (2002-05-29) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: SunOS 4.1.4 (sun4m) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: DOMAIN=gbnet.net -DEBUG +HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL +USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL -HAVE_REGCOMP +USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK -HAVE_WC_FUNCS -HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +-HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS -HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/local/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/lib/sendmail MAILPATH=Mailbox PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. Steve p.s. using gpg.rc from tarball. -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: about 'mutt-users' mailing list
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 01:17:57PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % This thing has happened for me twice or thrice already, so now I decided % to ask what's going on. I am subscribed to this list, but on some % occasions (the two or three incidents I mentioned) I have received an % email where I was told, that I wasn't subscribed to mutt-users. Here's % the email I got (last time today): % % From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Non-member submission from Jussi Ekholm % To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is, I admit, interesting, since that's the address I see above, which implies that you are subscribed with *that* address. Let's see, here... I see that Cedric has approved a few recent mails from you, but not this one to which I am replying... I know it's a silly question, but are you *really* sure you're [still] subscribed from this address? The goa-head.org mail starts bouncing, it gets unsubbed ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: FreeBSD compile errors
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 03:39:46AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: error on FreeBSD 4.5... 1.3.27 built ok on this system. no patches or anything... anyone else see an error like this, or should i send a message to mutt-dev? roland% ./configure --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-exact-address [configure works OK] ./patchlist.sh ./PATCHES patchlist.c cd . CONFIG_FILES=Makefile CONFIG_HEADERS= /bin/sh ./config.status creating Makefile gcc -DPKGDATADIR=\/usr/local/share/mutt\ -DSYSCONFDIR=\/etc\ -DBINDIR=\/usr/local/bin\ -DMUTTLOCALEDIR=\/usr/local/share/locale\ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I. -I. -Iintl -I./intl -I/usr/local/include -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c patchlist.c In file included from mutt.h:51, from patchlist.c:5: charset.h:39: syntax error before `ICONV_CONST' *** Error code 1 Make clean, then edit config.h and ensure #define HAVE_ICONV_H 1 #define HAVE_ICONV 1 #define HAVE_ICONV_T_DEF 1 are set, and all should work (assuming you do have libiconv installed) for some reason not picked up automagically Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: Help with Mailcap [cygwin]
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:55:23PM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote: I just checked cygwin.com and it would appear that the Mutt 1.2.5i I already have is up-to-date. In my understanding, the native WIN32 ports of Mutt are not as solid as the Cygwin port. Cygwin now has fetchmail as one of the supported packages, and it's also had ssmtp for a while. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Errors compiling on Solaris 2.6
Compile env. ./configure --with-homespool=Mailbox --with-domain=gbnet.net --enable-pop \ --enab le-imap --with-included-gettext --with-catgets --with-regex \ --enable-mailtool -- with-curses=/usr/local \ --with-libiconv-prefix=/usr/local --without-wc-funcs gcc 2.95.2 ibintl.a -liconv -liconv -lsocket -lnsl Undefined first referenced symbol in file btowc regex.o ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to mutt btowc exists in 2.7 (in libc) but not in 2.6 Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: How is it that mutt-users gets zero spam?
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 12:16:52PM -0400, Russell Hoover wrote: I am amazed that this list gets absolutely no spam. How is this accomplished? Perhaps some tricks cam be passed on to zsh-users, which isn't nearly as air-tight when it comes to spam-infestation. Because it only allows people who are subbed to post to the list, and it blocks HTML and other evil's. I can assure you the list-owners get LOTS of SPAM destined for the various mutt lists .. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: Mutt configuration tool -- count me in!
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:05:08AM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: myself to this project. Also, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that they could provide CVS space and mailing list support. In other words, count me in. Hosting another mutt list wouldn't be a problem here either. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: Mutt configuration tool
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:55:08AM -0800, Carl B. Constantine wrote: Well, if we're not reinventing the wheel, why not just ask the guy if we can have a copy of his whole HTML and just include it with the mutt distribution? I'm sure it's not very big on disk. Then just include instructions on how to navigate to the first page of it with a browser. Actually, the mutt configuration web site is written in PHP3 with a PostgreSQL backend. You might ask him for the code. I did and he was willing to give it to me (I'm evaluating it as an idea for a completely unrelated project). Maybe host it on www.mutt.org ? Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: gpg signature (was: Folder view - use file mask!)
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 09:24:49AM -0600, John Buttery wrote: gpg --verbose --keyserver certserverpgpcom --recv-keys 587F0CD702368857 Use something like keyserver wwwkeysukpgpnet in your options file, where uk would be your country Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnetnet [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:29:48AM -0800, Bob McLaren wrote: So now what I am looking for is a simple SMTP client that is as easy to use as Mutt, or, some alternative means of getting Mutt to talk to my remote smtp server ssmtp, or others Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnetnet [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: Something wrong with the list?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:40:27PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Of course :-) What about the workaround of sending a probe and waiting to see if that bounces, perhaps having sent it after a delay? that would involve intelligence, and something more than majordomo does at the moment. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: [Announce] SECURITY: mutt-1.2.5.1 and mutt-1.3.25 released.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 08:32:24AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % mutt-1.2.5.1 and mutt-1.3.25 have just been released. Didn't we see these come out already? Is this somehow different from the Jan 01 message [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was PGP-MIME signed, I noted, while this one isn't)? It's not the same message reinjected, but it doesn't look like anything new, either... Arrived sometime during the night, and I approved it ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: Duplicate. Re: [Announce] SECURITY: mutt-1.2.5.1 and mutt-1.3.25 released.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:56:07PM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: This was a duplicate message apparently inserted at trymedia.com. It's certainly not the version of the message I sent out. Looks like someone re-injected. Next time I'll check more carefully. Sorry (also can't find any trymedia people on the list) Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: Something wrong with the list?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:46:03PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: I too seem to be suffering from random unsubscribtions. I hate the fact that i don't get a message telling me I've been booted off, because I have to wait for a day or two without getting any messages before I realize something is fishy :) It's a problem, people get un subbed when mail starts bouncing ... If I was to send a message to the address ... it would bounce ... I guess I could set-up a bounce list, and if anyone got removed for bouncing, they get auto-added to that one ... but then that would only send a warning out infrequently, and you'd have to manually remove yourself from it. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
signed emails, why ?
Why does everyone send signed emails to the list, is it always necessary ? It slows reading down, and digests dont look so nice ... I can understand that certain things should be signed, but it seems more than not are now signed. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: signed emails, why ?
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:43:02PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: I would say to look at it like a mailing list signature that you have no say in. Perhaps you could make procmail remove it, or otherwise modify the mail, but other than that I think that you will have to live with people signing list mail. Or have the list software remove it, but I wouldn't like to do that ;) Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: M$ Exchange Server
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 02:45:42PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: The company wide mailsystem is based on that product called M$-Exchange-Server, and I am not able to change the mind of some admins to use a linux box instead! My question: How can I communicate with that Exchange box to get all my mails by mutt or fetch- and procmail? Smtp sending is no problem. I am using a thin postfixserver on my laptop, which sends the mails to mail.smtp.company! Any ideas? Make sure the admins have enabled IMAP, and use mutt's IMAP functions. Works fine. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU, UK tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 mob 07775 755503 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: LWN
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:43:17PM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: Evolution is a new-style Personal Information Manager - that is, Funnily it looks just like Outlook, which of course all the MS hating geeks have been moaning about ;) So MS must have got something right. Steve p.s. geek is not meant in a derogatory manner, just a generalisation. -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: Locking mboxes
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:45:45PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % I would not design a production quality mail setup that relied on it % if that is what you are asking. Well, that's one way to answer it :-) I don't know enough to know whether there are right and wrong ways to implement NFS so that locking works or if it's just plain always bad. The main trouble with NFS is that it's stateless, and locking is statefull. So you have two opposed systems trying to work with each other. Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
1.3.24 fails to compile on SunOS
SunOS 4.1.4 gcc 2.95.2 make[2]: Entering directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24/imap' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I/usr/local/include -I../intl -Wall -pedantic -O2 -c auth.c In file included from ../protos.h:20, from ../mutt.h:809, from auth.c:23: ../mbyte.h:18: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:19: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:20: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:21: parse error before `towupper' ../mbyte.h:21: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:21: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `towupper' ../mbyte.h:21: ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage class ../mbyte.h:22: parse error before `towlower' ../mbyte.h:22: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:22: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `towlower' ../mbyte.h:22: ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage class gmake[2]: *** [auth.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24/imap' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: 1.3.24 fails to compile on SunOS
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:24:36PM +, Lars Hecking wrote: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-devm=100288683121313w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-devm=100288714522738w=2 No that's fine, but shouldn't it be fixed somewhere ... it's been around for a while ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Strange things with gpg now
If I get a pgp/gpg message I now get [-- PGP output follows (current time: 11/30/01 13:08:07) --] gpg: Signature made 11/30/01 12:08:21 GMT using DSA key ID 2125BB86 gpg: requesting key 2125BB86 from wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net ... gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [-- End of PGP output --] \012 [-- The following data is signed --] \012 Hi, Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: list wierdness and muttrc builder
On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 06:10:21PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Ah, oops. I must have misunderstood :) Well, the gist I got from the subscription email that I got sent when I joined, it only takes one bounced message for the list to unsubscribe me. I guess if my mail server went down temporarily... Stupid ISP, now I have to phone and bitch :) It's a semi manual process, if mails start bouncing, then they will get unsub'ed after a while. Unfortunately it's not easy to tell always whether it's a transitory failure, or something more permanent. The biggest pain is Hotmail, which on occassion will start dropping lots of email, then go back to normal service. Other pains are when people misconfigure procmail recipes and then their mail starts bouncing too. Unfortunately when list traffic is high, this causes a hugh burden on the list-admin(s) who has a real job not just looking after the list ;) Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: still can't get off the list - sorry
On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:10:01PM +, Glyn Millington wrote: I recevie the mutt-users list in digest form- and it has been a terrific help. But now I wish to unsubscribe. Steve Kennedy helped me out with the suggestion that I mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the body of the message, and I get a polite message telling me that I am NOT subscribed! Try mutt-users-digest-request Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: help me unsubscribe
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 07:02:04PM +, Glyn Millington wrote: Hello! How do I get off this list? Can't find instructions anwhere! send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the body of the message Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: mutt-1.25.i message id errors
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:21:41AM +, Lars Hecking wrote: Steve Kennedy writes: I dont know whether it's mutt or the mta, however someone on the lists here was using mutt and generating a header of the form Message-ID: whatever.whatever@ Which was being rejected by lots of MTA's (and thus causing bounces). Is this mutt ? I guess mutt doesn't know the hostname it's running on, or you have set hostname="" in .muttrc. Not me, a list-user ... I just get the crap bounces ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: mutt-1.25.i message id errors
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:32:07AM +, Lars Hecking wrote: Not me, a list-user ... I just get the crap bounces ... Oops, sorry, I misread your message. You are refering to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Still, what I posted applies. The problem can be remedied by setting hostname explicitly in .muttrc. Besides, bouncing emails with malformed bad message-id's is a daft idea. They bounce at remote MTA's, the bounces comes back to the list-owner here. Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: sendmail error
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 11:11:02AM -0600, Kelly Scroggins wrote: I'm having a problem sending mail *OUT* of my Linux box. Recieving mail works very well. This problem just 'suddenly' appeared a month or two ago. Everything worked very well for several months. The Linux box is Red Hat 6.1, stock kernel, and the email client is Mutt 1.0pre3us. The error produced by Mutt is : /etc/sendmail.cf: line 90: fileclass: cannot open /etc/sendmail.cw: Group writable directory This is a sendmail problem, not really for this list. Upgrade to qmail ;) Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: IMAP with Exchange Server
On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 09:28:29AM -0400, Ray Crane wrote: I'm running Mutt 1.2.5i with IMAP support, in the unfortunate condition of needing to use MS Exchange as the IMAP server. (Corporate email, really tired of Outlook) Something somewhere is clearly buggy, to the point of just about making it unuseable. I find that when I open a folder, everything is fine. But, when new messages arrive, or even a $ refresh is done sometimes, things get odd. For example, one new message will come in but it gets listed twice. For example, I'll be able to read the new message(s) but the old messages will only have headers - no bodies. I use mutt and exchange on a daily basis (currently 1.2i). It works fine, as long as I dont have outlook open too. I would guess that IMAP bolts on to whatever exchange uses internally and things dont quite sync exchange-IMAP that well. If I modify something in mutt, Outlook notices the changes, if the other way around, things go funny. Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Mutt.org down on Sat am
Due to some unforeseen work on the site where the servers hosting the website and mailing lists for mutt.org, power is being turned off from Sat 2am (GMT) through probably 6am. This means there will be no access to the website or lists during this time. Sorry for the inconvenience. Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: Vacation problem (non-list content)
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 05:16:03PM -0800, Russell Van Tassell wrote: Well, quite honestly, I've "disappeared" from the list because of an overloaded mail server or mis-behaving/looping upstream relay (there's been a couple of weird ones that, all told, lasted an hour or two)... so I think the person to ask is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I'm apologising this time for probably being too harsh on bouncing mail - I went on vacation for 9 days and came back to over 4000 emails, lots of which were bounces. However if you look at the volume of the mutt lists on several days, a single "off-net" system, can cause LOTS of bounces .. Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: www.mutt.org comes up as www.gbnet.net?
On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 07:40:15PM -0800, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: Hi. I am trying to get to the mutt website, http://www.mutt.org/. The primary nameserver for mutt.org, ns.calyx.net, resolves www.mutt.org to 194.70.126.33; however when I try to go to http://www.mutt.org/, I get the web page for www.gbnet.net, "internet server for the young at heart". Now, I may be young at heart, but I want my mutt! :) Anybody know what's happenned with the web site, please? Sorry about that, there was a power outage here and the server came up up before the network was fully restored. Since we dont run DNS here for mutt.org, Apache came up and couldn't resolve www.mutt.org, so it used it's primary entry (www.gbnet.net) ... I was on vacation at the time, so didn't fix it until this morning. Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
List annoyances
Can people who follow-up to messages on this list and include the previous messages (generally tagged on at the end), remove the headers (or the irrelevant ones at least). Due to previous mail loops problems, some of the received lines cause the loop detection to kick in, thus the messages get sent for approval. It's not a mjor problem, but would make life slightly easier. Thanks Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: patch problem
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 05:08:54PM -0500, Ken W wrote: Hi, I am trying to patch mutt on a new system witht he same patches I have always used on BSD systems, but this system is Solaris. When I run 'patch patchfile' I get the following: The next patch looks like a unified context diff. The next patch looks like a unified context diff. The next patch looks like a unified context diff. The next patch looks like a unified context diff. The next patch looks like a unified context diff. The next patch looks like a unified context diff. The next patch looks like a unified context diff. I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere. Anyone know what the problem is? Solaris has it's own 'patch' which is not Larry Wall's patch. Steve -- NetTek Ltdtel +44-171 483 1169 fax +44-171 483 2455 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: traffic
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 05:33:32PM -0500, Randall J. Million wrote: I keep subscribing and then suddenly after a few emails everything dries up... Do I get get dropped automatically after a couple of days if I don't pick up mail? No. Your mail address bounced some mail and you were removed from both lists. The automatic removal system has a hair trigger. Well hair is an not quite the truth ... It's not quite as automagic as was orginally the case ... Steve -- NetTek Ltdtel +44-171 483 1169 fax +44-171 483 2455 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Oops
Sorry, the lists may have broken last night. I added an account to allow the web pages to be modified by a new maintainer, and unfortunately changed ownership on the .qmail files maintaining the lists. Qmail rightly so ignored them as they weren't owned by the account anymore :( Everything should be back now. Steve -- NetTek Ltdtel +44-171 483 1169 fax +44-181 444 6103 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: mutt -v (was: old home page URL in mutt.man from 0.95.3i)
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 03:33:11PM -0700, Franklin R. Jones wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 09:56:48PM +, Steve Kennedy wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 02:54:51PM -0700, Franklin R. Jones wrote: while on the subject of mailing addresses and such. It would also be useful to change the subscription information in the FAQ/manual. Every copy I found including those touted as "current" state: "To subscribe to one of the following mailing lists, send a message with the word subscribe in the subject to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" the list is run by majordomo and it *ignores* the subject line, and requires the subscribe command to be in the body. Err, that's how it works ... you can also use mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe mutt-list (where list is the one you want) in the body ... I sent the e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] once I realized it was a 'domo server I turned around and sent a standard subscribe request. So, if that is the intent (subject subscription) it's currently broken. Err, you're right - the above is wrong - subscribe must be in the body. You can send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe listname in the body ... Steve -- NetTek Ltdtel +44-171 483 1169 fax +44-181 444 6103 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: mutt -v (was: old home page URL in mutt.man from 0.95.3i)
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 10:25:19PM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote: David Thorburn-Gundlach schrieb am Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 02:20:47PM -0500: [...] and noticed that the mutt home page is still listed at hmc.edu. ... and when doing a "mutt -v", the last line says: "To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]." AFAIK is mutt-dev a closed list, so those mails will bounce. (OK, they'll bounce with a CC to the list-owner, but it will surely confuse people doing bug reports.) Would be nice, if the bug-reporting address could be changed. Preferable would be some alias "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", which will reach some people on mutt-dev. This has been discussed t death (IMHO), I have modified the majordomo resend perl to now tell the sender that they aren't subscribed, their message has been sent to the list owner for approval, and how to subscribe. Steve -- NetTek Ltdtel +44-171 483 1169 fax +44-181 444 6103 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: v 0.95.3 manual on-line
On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 11:55:35AM -0500, Michael Sanders wrote: Since the on-line manual at http://www.mutt.org/manual.html is still an old one, I have put the html version of the 0.95.3 manual up at http://tms.physics.lsa.umich.edu/mutt/ If the manual is up to date, if someone sends me a 'correct' version I'll put it on to the site. Also since ME doesn't seem to be doing anything with it, does someone want to take-over the maintenance ? Steve -- NetTek Ltdtel +44-171 483 1169 fax +44-181 444 6103 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
Re: list is still sending doubles
On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 07:26:42PM -0800, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 06:14:26PM -0800, Joe Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize that most of you have filters which keep you from seeing doubles, but this doesn't mean that the problem shouldn't be resolved. Is there any good reason for the list to send 2 copies of everything? Yeah, I'm finding this pretty annoying too. What's happening is that some subscriber is actually bouncing back a copy of each mail to the list. Since it seems to only be one copy of each message, they either have loop prevention in their mailer, or they are using procmail or something to do loop prevention or simply to suppress duplicates. The problem might actually be duplicate suppression gone wrong... If you look at the headers, you'll notice that one of the copies of each mail has gone from the sender to mutt.org (gbnet.net, that is) then to a site in Russia, then back to mutt.org, and then to you. Steve, could you remove this subscriber from the list and ask them to fix their setup before resubscribing? Is this still happening, I put a filter in the majordomo rules file to check for a delivered to header, which should bounce these types of double posting to me ... Can someone mail me an occurance of further messages like this ? Steve -- NetTek Ltdtel +44-171 483 1169 fax +44-181 444 6103 Flat 2, 43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park, London NW3 4LU Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body of text only]
