Re: List Charter? - www.guckes.net/mutt/mail.php3
On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 02:55:50PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-04 06:10]: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-10-04 00:42]: try http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/mail.php3#etiquette These etiquettes usually contain a word or two about attitude. I wonder why this isn't the case with your list? attitude is not a technical item. you obviously don't write software for the airlines... kevin, pitch-ing in his two ยค.02... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do we know Saddam has weapons of mass fork()'ed on 37058400 destruction? We looked at the receipt. meatspace place: home--Bill Hicks http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin msg31582/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: replying to unwrapped messages with vi
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:09:47AM -0400, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: Not sure about vi, but vim has a wonderful method of wrapping text. A simple Q} will wrap the whole paragraph. Or Qdown arrow will do for Outhouse since it seems to make each paragraph all one long line. huh. neat. i started on vi so i always have had vf and vq for formatting plain and quoted paragraphs: map vf !}fmt map vq !}fmt -p '' for vi, look at 'par' i find fmt to be more standard across unicies. kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do we know Saddam has weapons of mass fork()'ed on 37058400 destruction? We looked at the receipt. meatspace place: home--Bill Hicks http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin msg31401/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: subscribe command and %L in index_format
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 12:42:36PM -0700, Rob Lingelbach wrote: set index_format=%4C %Z %[!%y%m%d] %-17.17F (%3l) %s thank you Sven. I read the fine manual a few times and can't find --you know, it's part of human nature to make the same mistake more than once, according to physicist Edward O Wilson- [; i can't find out what the '-17.17F' or -15.15 rerfer to. see the printf man page for more info, but essentially -17.17 means 17 chars wide - no more, no less and the initial dash means left justified (without the dash it's right justified) Rob Lingelbach Senior Colorist UCLA Film and Television Archive you do things like colorise casablanca? you realise that's evil right? it's actually worse then using outlook or running that little s/w house over in redmond. you've got some serious karma repair work to do buddy. just thought i'd mention that. 8^) kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do we know Saddam has weapons of mass fork()'ed on 37058400 destruction? We looked at the receipt. meatspace place: home--Bill Hicks http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin msg31226/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP sign-if-have-key
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 05:35:43PM +0200, Johan Almqvist wrote:
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If I send someone a message, and I've got his key, Gnus doesn't
suggest to encrypt the message.
This was about Gnus, but can mutt do this?
i use this script:
gpgers.sh:
#!/bin/sh
GPGERS=$HOME/.muttrc.d/gpgers
GPGERS_TMP=$HOME/.muttrc.gpgers.tmp
GPGERS_LOCK=$HOME/.muttrc.d/gpgers.lock
PUBRING=$HOME/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
if [ -f $GPGERS_LOCK ]; then
exit
fi
touch $GPGERS_LOCK
if [ ! -f $GPGERS -o $PUBRING -nt $GPGERS ]; then
gpg --list-keys --with-colons 2 /dev/null \
| awk -F: '$1==pub {a=$7;gsub(-,,a)}
$1 ~ /uid|pub/ {print a0 $10}' \
| awk '$1 == 0 || $1 '`date +'%Y%m%d0'`' {print $0}' \
| egrep '.*@.*' \
| sed 's/^.*\(.*\).*$/send-hook \1 set pgp_autoencrypt/' \
| sort -u \
$GPGERS_TMP
mv $GPGERS_TMP $GPGERS
fi
rm $GPGERS_LOCK
i run this from cron every hour. i then include the file
$HOME/.muttrc.d/gpgers (see the GPGERS var to change it). some people i
know with gpg keys don't like encrypted mail regularly (read: pine users)
so i list their send-hooks after the include gpgers line.
kevin
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] How do we know Saddam has weapons of mass
fork()'ed on 37058400 destruction? We looked at the receipt.
meatspace place: home--Bill Hicks
http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin
Re: [OT] Correct way to quote?
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 01:12:20AM +0200, Markus Garschall wrote: My question doesn't concern mutt directly, but the topic of mail as a whole. no it doesn't... Since I'm using Netscape beside Mutt as Mailer, I wanted to know whether the old way to quote things in an E-Mail is the only correct one. ...your question is about religion. e.g.: foo In the default-install Netscape does following: | bar as you might guess, i think you're wrong. but it is a religious issue. the main reason i dislike non-standard quote chars (note my biased wording) is because it looks bad in a conversation: | ~ $ blah, blah | ~ blah, blah | ~ blah, blah | blah, blah | ~ blah, blah | blah, blah however the words bad and non-standard are aesthetic and/or biased. it is something you should consider. I believe that both ways are correct, because mutt colors both ways when having color quote xx xx in the .muttrc. Maybe someone of you knows more on this topic and about the history of quoting in E-Mail. two things i note about quoting. on usenet people used to use chars other then to avoid inews scripts that bandwidth protecting news admins used to make. yes, admins on usenet used to be that protective of what went on usenet from their site. things have degraded a bit since then. elm was the first mail client that i remember that let you configure things like the quoting char. i used rmail before that so i'm sure there was some emacs config to change it there too (as well as configuring M-x doctor to do the replying for me). i remember changing it and getting quite a few replies saying, had enough fun yet? september's over now, cut it out. that was back when most new people online showed up in september so it was a way to call people clueless. again, things have degraded since then. you're right, mutt's pretty smart on quoting chars. however not all your recipients will use mutt (poor confused souls). email is a form of communication, and communication only work if people follow agreed on standards like language, meaning and formats. the char has been used for decades as a quoting char, there are probably better ways to express your individuality. but again, it really is a subjective point. kevin, who wants to be unique like everyone else... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork()'ed on 37058400the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of credulity is a http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw
Re: Returning to the mail spool
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 01:50:30AM +0100, Anthony Edwards wrote: Heh. I don't want to go to my inbox; I want to go to my *mail spool*. I don't think it can be done (without quitting and staring Mutt again), but I'd like to if it is possible. changing to ! *is* your mail spool. please try these things before giving up. so change to another folder, then do this: c!press the return key on your keyboard; it's probably on the right don't type the text between the angle brackets. kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork()'ed on 37058400the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of credulity is a http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw
Re: muttprofile (new)
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:30:52PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: useful (preferebly perl) scripts dealing with .muttrc. Some alias conversion scripts, muttrc2html, maybe muttrcbuilder and the like. A script dealing with profiles would perfectly fit in my ideas. Interested? Anyone else interested in hacking some perl? i have some things to offer as well. i have a script that builds up gpg-enabled correspondants and sets up the appropriate send hooks for them. the pgp_reply* vars are fine for setting that stuff on replies, but not for new emails. in general though it would be nice to have a lot of these scripts distributed with mutt. and if need be for dependancies packagers could have mutt-perl, mutt-python, etc packages so that the main mutt package wouldn't depend on any interpreters (which seems to really piss people off for some moronic reason or another). i recently upgraded my system and i still need to go snarf down the stuff my word2text script needed; it would be nice if mutt had that with the package (or if it had a script that had wv as a dependancy to encourage linux distro makers to include it). kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork()'ed on 37058400the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of credulity is a http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw msg29983/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: muttprofile (new)
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:30:52PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: useful (preferebly perl) scripts dealing with .muttrc. Some alias conversion scripts, muttrc2html, maybe muttrcbuilder and the like. A script dealing with profiles would perfectly fit in my ideas. Interested? Anyone else interested in hacking some perl? i have some things to offer as well. i have a script that builds up gpg-enabled correspondants and sets up the appropriate send hooks for them. the pgp_reply* vars are fine for setting that stuff on replies, but not for new emails. in general though it would be nice to have a lot of these scripts distributed with mutt. and if need be for dependancies packagers could have mutt-perl, mutt-python, etc packages so that the main mutt package wouldn't depend on any interpreters (which seems to really piss people off for some moronic reason or another). i recently upgraded my system and i still need to go snarf down the stuff my word2text script needed; it would be nice if mutt had that with the package (or if it had a script that had wv as a dependancy to encourage linux distro makers to include it). kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork()'ed on 37058400the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of credulity is a http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw msg29987/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
mutt + procmail + nfs...
ok, i have a mail server that also exports out /home. it has several raid disks is connected to an ups and is generally noisy so it lives in my utility room. my workstation lives in my office and it mounts /home from the mail server. sendmail invokes procmail to deliver my mail on the mail server. i'm thinking of having procmail deliver directly to ~/Mail/inbox. that way i could run mutt on my workstation. however, this is the dreaded mailbox on nfs issue. do procmail and mutt play nice on nfs? kevin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork()'ed on 37058400the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of credulity is a http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw msg30003/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
pgp-hooks...
[note: i sent this to my local linux user's group. i'm wondering if anyone here has ideas on this? i've searched around a lot on this and haven't found anything. i use the standard mutt with redhat 7.3 (Mutt 1.2.5.1i (2000-07-28)). if people could cc me that would be great, but i'll also skim the archives thing. but essentially can i use pgp-hooks autoselect pgp keys for specified users with mutt 1.x + gpg? can i do it without a patch? if no to both, would a little perl wrapper to munge the gpg output as i describe below actually work, or will it not work on other keys? thanks!] ok, i just played with pgp-hooks in mutt. as usual when experimenting with pgp and mutt, i've enlisted our test admin paul jakma and our emergency backup test admin, liam bedford[0]. sadly however i never got past paul since there were too many errors (obviously on my side as usual). so this is the command mutt uses to list keys: gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys %r and this is the pgp-hook i have set: pgp-hook paulj@(itg\.ie|alphyra\.(ie|com)) 26034AA9 mutt asks if it should use key 26034AA9 and then it decides to make me pick the key from the normal list. only after selecting a key that way does it work. this is the sequence of commands: gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys 26034AA9 gpg --recv-keys [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys paulj@alphyra Paul Jakma this is what the latter command (which is used to build the list) produces: pub:f:1024:17:D86BF79464A2FF6A:1998-10-21::64:f:Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]::scESC: uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uid:fPaul Jakma (Home address) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sub:f:2048:16:625C9FD229C725E9:1998-10-21::64e: sub:f:2048:20:A8A077E4D602BC59:2000-07-04::64esc: sub:f:4096:20:B52EE1206A906D73:2000-07-05::64esc: pub:f:1024:17:E26517E626034AA9:2000-07-04:2004-07-11:72:f:Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]::scESC: uid:fPaul Jakma (Work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uid:fPaul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sub:f:1024:16:777344AD45F7485F:2000-07-04:2004-07-11:72e: sub:f:2048:20:B54868CCB0B88E06:2000-07-05:2004-07-11:72esc: sub:f:4096:20:F960636AB35EAE31:2000-07-26:2004-07-11:72esc: the first set of keys can be dismissed. the annoying thing is that the list is as long as the number of uid lines times the number of pub/sub lines for each key. i changed the list command to spit out various versions of the above. once i did that it selected correctly the first time: pub:f:4096:20:F960636AB35EAE31:2000-07-26:2004-07-11:72:f:Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED]::esc: which merges the pub:f:1024 line with the sub:f:4096 line. now, newer versions of mutt apparently have this solved. is this true? and is anyone using mutt and pgp-hooks just fine? how are your pgp_ commands set? kevin [0] my lame reference to dave barry: http://pottedmeat1.tripod.com/pmfp/id9.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork()'ed on 37058400the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place: home than a sober one. the happiness of credulity is a http://ie.suberic.net/~kevin cheap dangerous quality -- g.b. shaw
