Re: What's going on? (copies of messages...)
Here is a script to use formail to remove dups: rm id-cache formail -q- -D 12000 id-cache mutt-l -s mutt-lx ls -l mutt-l mutt-lx Just remember to copy the user id/gid before: mv mutt-lx mutt-l -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: A mutt problem or a samba problem?
On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 02:41:17PM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote: I have played with a Win'95 server program that could be address from a Mutt mailcap, called 'doc server'. It's on one of the mutt resource pages - I I was intending to play with this further too, but I was under the impression that docserver was to run on a NT machine and that you put open.pl in Docserver runs on win'95 just fine, at least as fine as a kludgey dos compile can - a recompile with somewhat more thought into how the message is to be passed is needed. In recalling more carefully, a look at the source will show the problem - the way parameters are passed is very rigid and makes firing another program until nice control of open.pl very hard. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: Email client poll
On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 05:06:02PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think we could expand this base a lot if pre-compiled DOS and/or W32 binaries were easily available. I think people using binaries aren't very likely to contribute. Maybe in raw percent, but the actual use would go up so much, the number of contributors would grow. Second, there are many kinds of contributions I see useful beyond actual code, like documentation, translations. Of course, the structure of Mutt makes it hard for someone who can't code to contribute. (Which was part of the incentivce for my earlier efforts with scripting languages) As for why may people like pine, esp, ISPs, I think it related to a personal pet peve of mine about mutt: No per command help, mini-menus if you will. My experience with Apache/Gui-dev showed that even expert users drop into a 'dummy' mode when doing something they do rarely. IMHO, the 'help' functions of mutt are basicly pretty bad and that hurts the broader use base -- if were an ISP, I'd never consider mutt as the default reader. The ablity to have min-help/menus but only turn them on when you need them, OR in a novice mode, I think, would answer the 'pine challege' quite nicely. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: additional flags
You might check out my slang language extensions, which allows adding an arbitrty headers and doing whatever you want with them (display, sort, tag, etc). I built a whole project/tag manager with them. It's all at: http://www.katn.com/opensw/#mutt The last version I did was 0.95 (which I'll upgrade to 1.0 - whenever we get there-did I miss it ? g, I'm a week behind reading the list.) -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: smart spell checking and MIME magic
You might check out aspell - much better spell checking logic, very BAD interface -- but it might be a solution and they keep improving the interface: http://metalab.unc.edu/kevina/aspell -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: timezone calculations don't take new year into account
On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 10:52:51PM -0600, Tkil wrote: | Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 21:10:28 +875400 | X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e Thanks BUT VERY old news - this was (heavily) discussed (and fixed) right after the first (of Jan, 1999). -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: Unfriendly terminal behaviour
I think John answered it a few weeks ago - there is also a new development release see www.slang.org and the new release in: From John (Jun-06-1999) Yesterday, I released version 1.3.7 of the slang library (and version 0.99-6 of jed). The library is available from: ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/ -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: Unfriendly terminal behaviour
On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 02:50:47PM -0400, rfi from Rich Roth wrote: release see www.slang.org and the new release in: Sorry - that's http://www.s-lang.org -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: empty headers
On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 11:13:07AM +0800, Duncan Sargeant wrote: I'm looking for a way to put empty headers in an email messages so that when I compose a new message, the header fields are there for me. ... So that I can just fill in the header field when I edit my messages. As I recall, blank my_hdrs headers are ignored. You can get my s-lang patches which allow blank headers, which I use as part of the scripting features of s-lang (see http://www.katn.com/opensw/#mutt). Or just put a dummy letter on the my_hdrs definitions and remove it when you edit the line. BTW, Please change your To: address - "Mutt Victims" will not make you many friends around here. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: empty headers
On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 08:33:11PM +0800, Duncan Sargeant wrote: solution. I was after builtin support, and the dummy letter will mean I have to strip the headers manually if I don't want to use them. What I should have asked is: is there any reason why my_hdr doesn't accept empty headers? I'm pondering whether we could strip them when sending the message instead? I had the same Q, so I fixed it - but part of my larger patch. don't particularly wish to lose :-) The expression is merely my subtle joke. Oh, that was obvious, just a bit off taste for those who contribute to the mutual effort. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: archiving and tagging
On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 07:24:41AM -0400, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote: I have a large mailbox of work mail, and I often move old messages out to a corresponding compressed mailbox. There ought to be an easy way I have a similiar setup and solve it by rolling all my large mailboxes, inbox or email lists, monthly. Then I compress the older boxes. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: MS Outlook Conversion
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:45:33PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: from OE) to netscape mailbox, which I presume is mbox. I haven't tried it myself. Unfortunately netscape mailbox is nowhere near mbox :( Sure looks like it to me, the first line is a bit weird though, no host name From - Mon Mar 01 08:16:28 1999 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from .. . -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: 95.5i compile problem
On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 10:28:22AM -0500, Kenny Elliott wrote: My /usr/include/unistd.h simply does an "#include asm/unistd.h" and my /usr/include/asm/unistd.h which is a link to /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/unistd.h has no mention of R_OK. Mine is a full file with the version comment of: POSIX Standard: 2.9 Symbolic Constants unistd.h (in checking Redhat 5.0/5.1, are similer except 2.10) Odd difference in the headers. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: 95.5i compile problem
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 10:59:04AM -0500, Kenny Elliott wrote: Not enough information. Which version of Linux? On my Linux systems, R_OK is defined in fcntl.h. You actually supplied enough information above for me to fix the problem. Thanks! I had to and and include for fcntl.h in compose.c, init.c, hook.c, postpone.c, and rfc1524.c. There is probably a better way to effect the same change but it worked. For the possible benifit of others I am running the current Stampede distribution. This sounds like a config problem with your linux sources - normally fctnl.h is really in: /usr/include/ asm - /usr/src/linux-2.0.29/include/asm-i386 linux - /usr/src/linux-2.0.29/include/linux Where they are linked to the include directories from the currently used linix source tree. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: MS attachments
On Mon, May 03, 1999 at 07:52:45AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: problem Let's say there's an incoming message with that has spaces in the filename (yeah, I know...but some people seem to think it's a good thing). In other words, something like this: begin 600 99 Travel Expense Report Form.xls This came up a while back - if you have a newer version of uudecode you can use the -o parameter to create an alternate output name -- I didn't look to see exactly how that emil script recodes the UU to MIME but you'd have to change it to either just to | uudecode -o "uuname" in which case you'd get a name with spaces -- which does work on most unixes but is message or add code to replace ' ' with some char like '-' or '_' -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: Xterm cut-n-paste with mutt
On Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 10:27:06AM +0300, Petri Kaukasoina wrote: I have mutt with slang-1.2.2 in rxvt-2.19 and don't get any extra spaces even when I copy and paste several lines at the same time. In xterm (from XFree86 3.3.3.1) I do get the extra spaces. I forwarded this to the author of S-lang, so we'll see if he has any comment. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
FAQ/Web site maintance (Was: using $index_format in folder-hooks)
On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 01:58:04PM +0200, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: P.S.: this is becoming an faq, do we have an active faq maintainer ? Which brings up the question of what happened to the expected web site enhancements ?? (www.mutt.org is still listing 0.95.1) -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: How to deal with attached S/MIME?
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 12:34:47PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 1999-04-06 16:54:36 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I use `v' I can only see garbage there ... how can I deal with these signatures? is there anyway they can be checked as pgp/mime sigs are? Not yet. I'm playing with the thought to write a cryptlib-based command line tool to handle S/MIME messages, and to integrate it with mutt. How ? Have you looked at the S/MIME encoding specification ? I have, although I have not yet implemented it. My understanding is that you'd have to start from scratch - the tool kit is US/Gov developed and blocked from export. Here is the operative quote: J.G. Van Dyke and Associates, Inc. (VDA), a software development company, is developing the S/MIME Freeware Library under contract to the National Security Agency (NSA) Check here for references: http://www.rsa.com/smime/html/resources.html http://www.rsa.com/smime/html/vda_freeware.html Personally I don't get how S/MIME can be considered an international standard without a internationally available reference implementation - is there one you are aware of ?? Does 'cryptlib' handle this and what is a URL for it ? -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: How to deal with attached S/MIME?
On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 03:38:15PM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: My understanding is that you'd have to start from scratch - the tool kit is US/Gov developed and blocked from export. Thomas doesn't need to do so, because someone else did: That's what I was hoping - I have a probably with using code that is useless internationally. - schnipp -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gutmann) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cryptlib 2.1 final beta released Thanks - that's what I needed. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: pop support
On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 03:36:35PM -0500, David Shaw wrote: Actually, there is some sort of POP magic that can be used to send mail via the POP daemon. I don't know how widely supported it is. I suppose Never heard of it - Sounds like some nifty idea the spec writer threw in that no one has ever used g -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: pop support
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 11:48:02PM +0200, Christian R Molls wrote: does mutt's internal pop-support forward mail via sendmail or via port 25? I think you have a mis-understanding of POP - pop has nothing to do with forwarding or, for that matter, sending email - and Mutt, does use a MTA (like sendmail) to send mail. Are there plans to support more than one pop host? You can have more than one - since the PopHost can be changed and you can fetch from a pop server on demand. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: redundant file formats2txt
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 11:37:11AM -0800, Brandon Long wrote: text/enriched; /home/binde/bin/rtfreader %s; copiousoutput ... rtfreader program I know about actually reads application/ms-rtf or the Do you have a location for this program ?? -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: saving uuencoded files with spaces in the name
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 08:29:58AM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 1999-03-09 21:12:55 -0600, Josh Hildebrand wrote: The times when I get just the first word of the filename saved is when I do a '| uudecode' (without -o and the filename). This is obviously a problem with the version of uudecode you are using. Probably - but couldn't this be fixed with a mailcap entry that uses the -o option. Or does mutt not use mailcap for uudecode ? -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: saving uuencoded files with spaces in the name
On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 12:54:50AM -0600, Josh Hildebrand wrote: Certainly there is either a way to tell mutt to handle the spaces properly, or to create a macro that grabs the file name with | head -1 | cut -d ' ' -f 3- and then runs uudecode -o on it.. I'm not sure how to do that in mutt without writing an external script.. I'd prefer a better solution.. I'm not sure why an external script is not a better solution, something like: UNTESTED CODE #!/bin/sh TEMP="/tmp/UU_$$" cat $TEMP NAME="`grep begin | cut -d ' ' -f 3- ` " uudecode -o $NAME $TEMP rm -f $TEMP /UNTESTED CODE Of course, you could also load the s-lang language patches into your version of Mutt and write it in S-lang. (see http://www.katn.com/opensw/#mutt) -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: preferred editor?...
On Sat, Mar 06, 1999 at 12:01:29PM +, John Poltorak wrote: Which editor do mutt users generally recommend for creating emails? I would prefer something which works fairly intuitively using a PC keyboard - ie uses cursor keys, PgUp, PgDn, Home, End etc..., and use of colour would be nice. Check out Jed - it has what you are talking about including the ability to program special handling you like using a builtin C-like language. http://space.mit.edu/%7Edavis/jed.html Get the mail_mode.sl script at: http://www.s-lang.org/archive/mail_mode-mutt.sl It includes most of the mail handling functions you'd like and has Mutt setup details in the comments. More about the built-in language at: http://www.s-lang.org -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: Bold and underline using backspace.
On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 03:04:57PM -0800, Brandon Long wrote: You can also use text/enriched messages instead of text/plain. To each their own. With text/enriched, at least, most modern mailers have a chance of handling it. Are you saying that Mutt will display text/enriched with color highlighting ? Can you suggest where to find the text/enriched spec ? I'd like to see if I can make a jed macro to high-light using it. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~
Re: mailing list madness
On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 11:25:56PM -0800, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: This whole mailing list situation is really silly. When Michael Elkins ran the lists at Harvey Mudd College, they were open, and there was practically no spam. The new maintainer has admitted that the reason The world is not what it used to be, I run a number of lists also and the short form is that any list whose address is on a web site will get spammed daily. The mutt-* lists should be closed. -- Later ... Rich Roth --- On-the-Net Direct: Box 927, Northampton, MA 01061, Voice: 413-586-9668 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Url: http://www.on-the-net.com ~~~ www.i-depth.com lets you Add Instant Depth to your Website~~~ ~~~ Adding depths to Web presences and Internet providers ~