Defaulting to inbox on startup
Is there any way to have mutt default to either the inbox on startup, or default to a folder that has new mail in it? Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so characters. However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? Collin Peters
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] mutt [18/09/01 23:33 -0700]:
Is there any way to have mutt default to either the inbox on startup, or
default to a folder that has new mail in it?
Mutt by default goes to /var/mail/$user (or /var/spool/mail/$user).
Try mutt -y though - it brings you directly to the folder list.
Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have
successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so characters.
However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For
set editor=vim +':set tw=77' +':set wrap' +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} {i++}' %s\`
%s
single line - unwrap if necessary.
-suresh
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to have mutt default to either the inbox on startup, or default to a folder that has new mail in it? you can default to a specific mailbox with: mutt -f mailbox you can have mutt open the first mailbox in 'mailboxes' that has new mail with: mutt -Z so you could alias mutt to mutt -Z in your shell configuration file. these two command line options are listed right at the top of the proverbial 'FM' Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so characters. However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? the easiest way i know of is typing: gqip which will reformat the current paragraph. gqap reformats all paragraphs i think. quoting and stuff will be preserved as long as '' is set in 'comments' in your .vimrc or in the systemwide vimrc (this is the default) i miss the normal way of doing things sometimes, but usually gqip is more flexible and useful. it's very useful for reformatting other peoples' paragraphs correctly and at the same width as your own text. w -- Sintax error in config file! (line 378) aborted! GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [19 Sep 2001 06:58]: Is there any way to have mutt default to either the inbox on startup, or default to a folder that has new mail in it? At your command prompt, type: mutt -Z || mutt In zsh, and presumably bash, you can set an alias. e.g. alias mutt=mutt -Z || mutt Put that in your .profile or .bashrc, and then, when you type 'mutt', it will see if there's new mail anywhere. If so, it'll open to that folder, else it will open to the inbox. cheers, -- iain. http://eh.org/~koschei/ PGP signature
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On Sep/18/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have This is not a question really related to vim, or to Colin's message, but ... well, just out of curiosity: how many people started using vim as editor just by influence of this list? :-) I know I did, because everyone here seemed to use it with great success, and maybe others did too :-) However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? I don't know O:-) What I usually do in that cases is to use Control+J, which I have mapped to: imap C-J C-Ogqap That usually fixes everything, and has become a second-nature for me. -- Roberto Suarez Soto· Ain't no sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] · When she's gone Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-Tue-01 23:41 -0700]: [ snip ] Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so characters. However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? what exactly do you mean by not preserved ? do you mean that if you add some words to the long line it will not automatically wrap? do you mean you can't automatically reformat ? if you are looking for a way to reformat, then its what others have suggested before. you may want to make sure that your 'paste' option is not set, or else smartindent is turned off and it wont wrap very well. in fact, in that case the 'tw' is set to 0, and unless you dont have wrapmargin set it is trouble. also, you may want to take a look at 'formatoptions' to make sure you've got it set the way you like it. in any case, i guess i am not too sure what's the problem i am trying to suggest a solution for, so i will stop now :) hth, denis -- // mailto: Denis Perelyubskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] // icq : 12359698 // PGP : http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~denisp/files/pgp.asc
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On Sep/18/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have This is not a question really related to vim, or to Colin's message, but ... well, just out of curiosity: how many people started using vim as editor just by influence of this list? :-) I know I did, because everyone here seemed to use it with great success, and maybe others did too :-) However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? I don't know O:-) What I usually do in that cases is to use Control+J, which I have mapped to: imap C-J C-Ogqap That usually fixes everything, and has become a second-nature for me. -- Roberto Suarez Soto· Ain't no sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] · When she's gone Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·
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Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so... snip the easiest way i know of is typing: gqip which will reformat the current paragraph. gqap reformats all paragraphs i think. quoting and stuff will be preserved as long as '' is set in 'comments' in your .vimrc or in the systemwide vimrc (this is the default) Can you expand on this please ?? Specifically the as long as '' is set in 'comments' . I use 'par' myself and it usually does just fine. On occasion though, I've seen it do this to a paragraph: this is an example of what 'par' has done to a paragraph and I'm pretty sure that it shouldn't have ;-) Hall
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Hall -- ...and then Hall Stevenson said... % % gqap reformats all paragraphs i think. quoting and stuff % will be preserved as long as '' is set in 'comments' in % your .vimrc or in the systemwide vimrc (this is the default) % % Can you expand on this please ?? Specifically the as long as % '' is set in 'comments' . I use 'par' myself and it usually It's a vim command (gq) and setting (comments); if you have the comments character(s?) known, then gq commands will strip them out, format, and put them at the front. % does just fine. On occasion though, I've seen it do this to a % paragraph: % % this is an example of what 'par' has done to a paragraph % and I'm pretty sure that it shouldn't have ;-) Yeah, I've seen that sort of thing, too. It won't be fixed with a vim setting, but I also dunno why par would choke like that. % % Hall :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
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Thus spake Collin Peters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Is there any way to have mutt default to either the inbox on startup, or default to a folder that has new mail in it? Check out the command-line options for starting Mutt, in particular '-Z'. Although I don't think that will default to your inbox if you don't have any mail... Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so characters. However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? Try this: set editor=vim -c 'set tw=72 comments=nb:' Then, once your email is all typed (or during for that matter), just highlight a portion with visual block and hit 'gq'. That should wrap things nicely, without messing up the stuff that you don't want to wrap. -- | Justin R. Miller / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 0xC9C40C31 | Of all the things I've lost, I miss my pants the most. -- PGP signature
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Thanks guys, I see the first one was a RTFM. :} I didn't remember seeing that last time I RTFM but dem's da breaks. The gq vim option also does the trick. Thanks Collin
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One more question on this topic. I've set my editor command to the one suggested below but would appreciate a little explanation on the comments= part. Particularly the 'nb:' part. Does this mean if I were to modify some of the lines below which started with the angle bracket (), it would auto-format those to 72 chars as well AND keep the brackets in the correct place? I tried it and it didn't work but some of the responses seemed to indicate it would. On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:49:02AM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: Thus spake Collin Peters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Another question I have is about using vim for writing e-mails. I have successfully been able to setup vim to wrap at 80 or so characters. However, if I edit the message, the word wrapping is not preserved. For example, if I were to edit my first question above and add two or three words to it, the line would extend past 80 chars and not wrap unless I manually edit it. Is there a solution for this? Try this: set editor=vim -c 'set tw=72 comments=nb:' Then, once your email is all typed (or during for that matter), just highlight a portion with visual block and hit 'gq'. That should wrap things nicely, without messing up the stuff that you don't want to wrap. -- | Justin R. Miller / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 0xC9C40C31 | Of all the things I've lost, I miss my pants the most. --
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:24:42AM +0200, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: This is not a question really related to vim, or to Colin's message, but ... well, just out of curiosity: how many people started using vim as editor just by influence of this list? :-) I know I did, because everyone here seemed to use it with great success, and maybe others did too :-) I actually started with Emacs first. I think the tutorial that came with it is a little better than the one for vim. I also think Emacs has a slightly more intuitive command set (emphasis on slightly). I started using vim because with all the different flavors of UNIX I deal with, vim (vi, actually) was a much more common editor than Emacs. Over time, I discovered many strange and wonderful things that vim can do. I especially liked being able to use any tool that can work with stdin and stdout. To be fair, I don't know how much of the same kind of thing Emacs is capable of. I still think it's a great editor, but it's awfully hard to go back ;-) -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
