No Mail on Spool

2000-08-01 Thread Ken Kelly

Though I can send mail with mutt, I receive nothing.

I'm using Linux Mandrake 7.1 with pop, and I'm pretty sure that I've
set up the pop options correctly (user, server, password).

Nothing goes to the local spool that I've set up, and I get no
errors or other signs of trouble from mutt.  Any ideas?

ken





Re: No Mail on Spool

2000-08-01 Thread tech_related

Hi Ken,

If you are using the built-in pop support (I am not sure about what you
meant with "with pop"), then don't mind reading the rest of this email :).

Otherwise, and although this might seem trivial to you, I had the same problem 
until I found out that my MTA was putting my incoming mail in 
/home/{username}/Mail/Inbox and I had instructed mutt to only look for mail at 
/var/spool/mail/{username}.

Are you sure that mutt is looking for the incoming mail at the right location?

Cheers,

Manuel



On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:28:09AM -0400, Ken Kelly wrote:
 Though I can send mail with mutt, I receive nothing.
 
 I'm using Linux Mandrake 7.1 with pop, and I'm pretty sure that I've
 set up the pop options correctly (user, server, password).
 
 Nothing goes to the local spool that I've set up, and I get no
 errors or other signs of trouble from mutt.  Any ideas?



Re: No Mail on Spool

2000-08-01 Thread tech_related

Hi Ken,

  If you are using the built-in pop support (I am not sure about what you
  meant with "with pop"), then don't mind reading the rest of this email :).
 
 I meant that I compiled mutt with '--enable-pop' (...)

Yep, that's what I meant, too ... I never really tried it, so I am afraid I can't
be of any real help on the technical issues you described ...

But, IIRC, usually it is suggested that you don't use the "built-in" pop
capability but a program such as fetchmail instead. But then, using such a
program implies running a MTA such as sendmail or Postfix, so that fetchmail
retrieves your email from your ISP's POP server and then feeds it into the
delivery queue of your local MTA, which in turn must put it in your spool
file (where mutt will look for it). Or you can use procmail, which you can 
"teach" how to filter your incoming email and then sort it into different 
mailboxes.

I use Postfix together with fetchmail, and the setup was very easy (besides
one or two minor problems).

Let me know if I can be of any further help.


Cheers,

Manuel




Re: No Mail on Spool

2000-08-01 Thread Charles Cazabon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 But, IIRC, usually it is suggested that you don't use the "built-in" pop
 capability but a program such as fetchmail instead. But then, using such a
 program implies running a MTA such as sendmail or Postfix,
[...]

Not necessarily.  'getmail' delivers directly to mbox files or Maildirs, and
fetchmail can (I believe) be set to deliver directly through procmail or
another MDA rather than by SMTP injection.

Charles
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Re: No Mail on Spool

2000-08-01 Thread tech_related

  But, IIRC, usually it is suggested that you don't use the "built-in" pop
  capability but a program such as fetchmail instead. But then, using such a
  program implies running a MTA such as sendmail or Postfix,
 [...]
 
 Not necessarily.  'getmail' delivers directly to mbox files or Maildirs, and
 fetchmail can (I believe) be set to deliver directly through procmail or
 another MDA rather than by SMTP injection.
 
Thanks, I didn't know it could also work like that.

- Manuel



Re: No Mail on Spool

2000-08-01 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Using a large mallet, Charles Cazabon whacked out:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  But, IIRC, usually it is suggested that you don't use the "built-in" pop
  capability but a program such as fetchmail instead. But then, using such a
  program implies running a MTA such as sendmail or Postfix,

 Not necessarily.  'getmail' delivers directly to mbox files or Maildirs, and
 fetchmail can (I believe) be set to deliver directly through procmail or
 another MDA rather than by SMTP injection.

Yep - I run fetchmail with procmail as the mda (qmail / maildir users consider
maildrop)

something like:

defaults
forcecr
poll pop.gmx.net with proto pop3 no dns
user 'foo' with pass bar mda "sed -e '1s/^\t/Received: /'| formail |/usr/bin/procmail 
-d mallet"
fetchall

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eye.



Re: No Mail on Spool

2000-08-01 Thread Ken Kelly

On Aug 01, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

  I meant that I compiled mutt with '--enable-pop' (...)

 Yep, that's what I meant, too ... I never really tried it, so I
 am afraid I can't be of any real help on the technical issues you
 described ...

I'm afraid that the main technical issue is that I'm an idiot... :-)
All I had to do was explicitly check the pop server with the 'G'
command.  Everything works now, but I certainly do feel foolish.

My mistake was in assuming that 'mail_check' accessed the pop
server, but it seems that it only polls the spool.  The way I've set
things up, polling the spool is useless, since nothing in the
background is feeding it.

 But, IIRC, usually it is suggested that you don't use the
 "built-in" pop capability but a program such as fetchmail [...]

Yes, I've considered that.  I just wanted to make mutt work for now
in the simplest way possible.  I've plenty of time to break/fix it
further in the fullness of time.  :-)

 I use Postfix together with fetchmail, and the setup was very easy
 (besides one or two minor problems).

I may well investigate Postfix in the near future.  For the time
being, though, I think I'll concentrate on learning how to use mutt
the way it's set up now.  I may find that I'll *need* to change it
to do what I want, but I'm too much a newbie to know that yet.

 Let me know if I can be of any further help.

Thanks.  It may not be obvious, but you did help me realize that
nothing was feeding the spool, which was the key to the problem.

ken