Re: POP? (read some docs first)
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:29:12PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: > On 11/10/2014 05:58 PM, DaleKelly wrote: > >Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. > > APOP authentication failed. > proceeds the above error > > although it works!!! > > don't like errors, any help appreciated much > > I'll write a full HOWTO on Ubuntu Mutt on my website below and post it to > the mailing list and usenet group Please don't bother. Just post the link to it if you feel you must. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
Re: POP? (read some docs first)
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:41:05PM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: > On Mon, November 10, 2014 5:29 pm, DaleKelly wrote: > > On 11/10/2014 05:58 PM, DaleKelly wrote: > > > >> Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. > >> > > > > APOP authentication failed. Where is this coming out? Only on debug output or somewhere else? > > proceeds the above error > > > > although it works!!! > > don't like errors, any help appreciated much So don't try authenticating with APOP. You should not be specifying any pop_authenticators unless you specifically need to. That doesn't happen often. OTOH if you didn't mess this up with some config error then perhaps it is normal as mutt tries various authentication methods (see doc) from most secure to least secure. > > If I recall correctly, POP interface was added to Mutt as an afterthought. > A search on "mutt retrieve pop" reveals that others have found Mutt in the > role of retrieving messages from a POP server to be problematic. I use Mutt with POP heavily (few thousand mails per week from mailing lists) and it works absolutely fine, no issues. I've used it over the years with at least 5 email providers. People just seem to have problems setting up email clients, I don't think mutt is any harder than usual. I mean getting mutt to do exactly what you want is harder but the mail server connection stuff is pretty much the same with every client. Even MS Outhouse needs to have your creds and mail server addresses. > But why waste time with a Mutt function which is questionable, when a good > POP solution is available in getmail? Switch to getmail and be done with > it. Please, Russell ;-) Remember who we're talking to. Simple is good. And mutt's pop support is totally fine. /jl -- ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) Powered by Lemote Fuloong against HTML e-mail X Loongson MIPS and OpenBSD and proprietary/ \http://www.mutt.org attachments / \ Code Blue or Go Home! Encrypted email preferred PGP Key 2048R/DA65BC04
Re: POP? (read some docs first)
On Mon, November 10, 2014 5:29 pm, DaleKelly wrote: > On 11/10/2014 05:58 PM, DaleKelly wrote: > >> Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. >> > > APOP authentication failed. > proceeds the above error > > although it works!!! > > don't like errors, any help appreciated much If I recall correctly, POP interface was added to Mutt as an afterthought. A search on "mutt retrieve pop" reveals that others have found Mutt in the role of retrieving messages from a POP server to be problematic. But why waste time with a Mutt function which is questionable, when a good POP solution is available in getmail? Switch to getmail and be done with it. getmail knows how to retrieve mail from most types of mail server. getmail is reliable. And getmail can provide a log of each transaction; this facilitates diagnostics. RLH
Re: POP? (read some docs first)
On 11/10/2014 05:58 PM, DaleKelly wrote: Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. APOP authentication failed. proceeds the above error although it works!!! don't like errors, any help appreciated much I'll write a full HOWTO on Ubuntu Mutt on my website below and post it to the mailing list and usenet group thanks again, I'm off to bother the slrn folk now, already got a version of ircii running, when slrn is done I can shut Thunderbird down -- (my whereabouts below) http://www.dalekelly.org/
POP? (read some docs first)
read "?" on mutt read POP in Mutt docs searched Ubuntu wiki searched google I get Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. SSL/TLS seemes to make a connection before the error comes up SMTP with SSL/TLS works fine abook is working fine "?" on my Ubuntu repository version, says "G" launches fetch-mail Ubuntu version 14.04 LTS repository Mutt 1.5.21-6.4ubuntu2 grep -v ^# /etc/Muttrc is at the bottom -- here is what I added to my Muttrc set realname="Dale" set from="d...@dalekelly.org" set smtp_url="smtps://d...@dalekelly.org@smtpout.secureserver.net:465" set smtp_pass="mypassword" set pop_host="pops://d...@dalekelly.org@pop.secureserver.net:995" set pop_pass="mypassword" set signature="~/.signature" macro index I "!abook\n" macro pager I "!abook\n" specifying pop_user gives me the same error, I currently have it separate (pop_port gives an error, so I put in in the pop_host) dale@dale-W3653:~$ grep -v ^# /etc/Muttrc ignore * unignore from: subject to cc date x-mailer x-url user-agent hdr_order date from to cc subject bind editor"\e"kill-word bind editor"\e" kill-word bind editor delete-char set sort=threads unset bounce_delivered set mixmaster="mixmaster-filter" set ssl_ca_certificates_file="/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt" macro index \eb "~b " "search in message bodies" macro index,pager,attach,compose \cb "\ set my_pipe_decode=\$pipe_decode pipe_decode\ urlview\ set pipe_decode=\$my_pipe_decode; unset my_pipe_decode" \ "call urlview to extract URLs out of a message" macro generic,pager " zcat /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz | sensible-pager" "show Mutt documentation" macro index,pager y "?" "show incoming mailboxes list" bind browser y exit mime_lookup application/octet-stream set time_inc=250 attachments +A */.* attachments -A text/x-vcard application/pgp.* attachments -A application/x-pkcs7-.* attachments +I text/plain attachments -A message/external-body attachments -I message/external-body source /usr/lib/mutt/source-muttrc.d| set realname="Dale" set from="d...@dalekelly.org" set smtp_url="smtps://d...@dalekelly.org@smtpout.secureserver.net:465" set smtp_pass="mypassword" set pop_host="pops://pop.secureserver.net:995" set pop_user="d...@dalekelly.org" set pop_pass="mypassword" set signature="~/.signature" macro index I "!abook\n" macro pager I "!abook\n" -- (my whereabouts below) http://www.dalekelly.org/
