Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 12:53:52PM -0700, Mun Johl wrote: GJ I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it GJ worked great. Worked for me too! Thanks for the tip. BTW, do I need to do anything special if I want to send email to the list? No, nothing special. Just send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 03 Apr 2000: This is really a problem best solved in the MTA, rather than with an MUA like Mutt or Pine. The MTA is best suited to handle the task of making your E-mail appear to come from a particular domain or pseudo-domain. And, once configured properly, ALL of your E-mail, no matter what MUA (even /bin/mail) will have proper headers. Wouldn't that be nice? Yes, except when you want that address to vary depending on your MUA state. :-) And yes, there are times when you want to use a different envelope sender, even if these might be rare... Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / ZAP! Process discontinued. Enter any 12-digit prime number to resume.
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
Hi, On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:22 PM PST, Gary Johnson wrote: GJ I ran into this problem, too. Same company even. GJ GJ The vim mailing list uses ezmlm. When I tried subscribing to the list Same company, same mailing list :) ... Stuff Deleted ... GJ I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it GJ worked great. Worked for me too! Thanks for the tip. BTW, do I need to do anything special if I want to send email to the list? Thanks to all who replied. -- Mun
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path: header containing only your email address (no quoted name, etc). This is really a problem best solved in the MTA, rather than with an MUA like Mutt or Pine. The MTA is best suited to handle the task of making your E-mail appear to come from a particular domain or pseudo-domain. And, once configured properly, ALL of your E-mail, no matter what MUA (even /bin/mail) will have proper headers. Wouldn't that be nice? -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Richardson IT|PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path: header containing only your email address (no quoted name, etc). This is really a problem best solved in the MTA, rather than with an MUA like Mutt or Pine. The MTA is best suited to handle the task of making your E-mail appear to come from a particular domain or pseudo-domain. And, once configured properly, ALL of your E-mail, no matter what MUA (even /bin/mail) will have proper headers. Wouldn't that be nice? Yes, but the original poster wanted to be able to set this for some mail and not for others; i.e. the default was correct for most mail, and he just wanted to be able to change his envelope sender when dealing with a particular ezmlm-based mailing list administration address. I'm quite aware of what should be done in the MTA vs. the MUA, thank you. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Q: Mutt and Email Lists
Hi, I currently subscribe to my email lists with the address of my primary email machine (which is a company _internal_ email address). However, my email address is transitioning to a different domain. Furthermore, my company prefers external email be sent to our "external" email address. How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list management software believes the email is coming from my external email address? I tried sending a subscription request after changing the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request from my current internal email address? The list in question has a specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty. I looked through the mutt manual, but didn't see anything covering this topic. Thanks in advance. -- Mun
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
Mun Johl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 31 Mar 2000: How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list management software believes the email is coming from my external email address? I tried sending a subscription request after changing the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request from my current internal email address? The list in question has a specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty. Sounds like ezmlm (although I suppose there might be others which work the same way). :-) Anyway, I don't know but I'm guessing this is because the mailing list software is looking at the *envelope sender* address (if it's ezmlm, then I know this to be the case). So anything you put in the headers won't have any effect. Mutt doesn't offer a method to directly configure the envelope sender address (it's decided by the MTA usually when the email is sent), but you can modify the $sendmail variable to include the envelope sender on the sendmail command line, with the -f option (eg. "-fyour@address"). I'm reasonably sure this will help you, but if it doesn't, then you need to first find out how the list server determines the sender address, and after you know that you can then look into seeing how to change that. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Bumper sticker: I brake for no apparent reason.
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:33:36PM -0800, Mun Johl muttered: Hi, How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list management software believes the email is coming from my external email address? You could try to change the Reply-To header, which probably has you 'internal' mail address. For example an extra line in your .muttrc: my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good luck, Steffan
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
Mun Johl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list management software believes the email is coming from my external email address? I tried sending a subscription request after changing the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request from my current internal email address? The list in question has a specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty. ezmlm? Yes, it's looking at the envelope sender and ignoring the From: and Reply-To: headers. Depending on your MTA, there may be various ways around this: -if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path: header containing only your email address (no quoted name, etc). If that doesn't work, write a wrapper for qmail-inject which calls it with the -f argument, and set $sendmail to the name of your wrapper script. -other MTA? Don't know, don't use them. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, 01 Apr 2000: -if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path: header containing only your email address (no quoted name, etc). If that doesn't work, write a wrapper for qmail-inject which calls it with the -f argument, and set $sendmail to the name of your wrapper script. With qmail, qne could also set the QMAILUSER and QMAILHOST environment variables... (That's what I'm doing.) Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Batteries not included with this signature.
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:59:33PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Mun Johl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 31 Mar 2000: How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list management software believes the email is coming from my external email address? I tried sending a subscription request after changing the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request from my current internal email address? The list in question has a specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty. Sounds like ezmlm (although I suppose there might be others which work the same way). :-) I ran into this problem, too. Same company even. The vim mailing list uses ezmlm. When I tried subscribing to the list with my new address, the "confirm subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" notice was indeed sent to the envelope address instead of the From: address. However, the notice also contained the descriptions of a lot of administrative commands, including: You can start a subscription for an alternate address, for example "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it worked great. For another list, I sent a message to the list owner explaining the situation and asking for their help. That worked, too. Good luck. Regards, Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists
I currently subscribe to my email lists with the address of my primary email machine (which is a company _internal_ email address). However, my email address is transitioning to a different domain. Furthermore, my company prefers external email be sent to our "external" email address. That's a pretty stupid situation, which will continue to create unnecessary problems. If there is a distinction between extern and internal email addresses, it should be completely transparent for users. I.e. the company mail gateway, the link to the external world, should canonically rewrite all addresses in inbound and outbound mail. Even simpler if there were no such distinction, i.e. internal and external addresses are the same. All IMHO, of course.
