Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-19 Thread Sven Guckes

* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 22:17]:
 »Sven Guckes« sagte am 2002-04-18 um 22:31:50 +0200 :
  beats me. do you have some more examples for which this happens?
  does mutt do the splitting of lines when the line is shorter?
  what happens now?
 Yes, it does.  All the time I get (well, sorta, of course):
   Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfun?=
=?iso-8859-1?Q?g?= von MailAdressen
 
 So, mutt always seperates the g from fun.

feature.  mutt knows how to separate
the fun things from the 'g' stuff.  ;-)

Sven  [now, that would explain... um, never mind]



Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-19 Thread Rob Reid

At  9:50 PM EDT on April 19 Sven Guckes sent off:
 * Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 22:17]:
  ?Sven Guckes? sagte am 2002-04-18 um 22:31:50 +0200 :
   beats me. do you have some more examples for which this happens?
   does mutt do the splitting of lines when the line is shorter?
   what happens now?
  Yes, it does.  All the time I get (well, sorta, of course):
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfun?=
 =?iso-8859-1?Q?g?= von MailAdressen
  
  So, mutt always seperates the g from fun.
 
 feature.  mutt knows how to separate
 the fun things from the 'g' stuff.  ;-)
 
 Sven  [now, that would explain... um, never mind]

Explain what?  Haven't you ever seen Mycologists are fun gis!?  (Pronounce
gis like guys, and yes, it's a bit sexist.)

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Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-18 Thread Alexander Skwar

Hi!

I've just received a message with these headers:

Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfun?=
=?iso-8859-1?Q?g?= von E-Mail Adressen?
User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i

Is this the best way to encode the word Überprüfung at this
position?  What makes me wonder, is why the g has been put on the next
line and why it was encoded at all?  I'm not too sure on the RfC part,
but I would have expected something like:

Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfung?=
von E-Mail Adressen?

Would this be wrong?

Hmm, and why was the g encoded with iso-8859-1?  Wouldn't us-ascii be
more conservative (and also 2 bytes shorter (that's no question *G*))?

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Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 17:57]:
 I've just received a message with these headers:
 
 Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfun?=
 =?iso-8859-1?Q?g?= von E-Mail Adressen?
 User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i
 
 Is this the best way to encode the
 word Überprüfung at this position?

No.  Better is Test.  ;-)

 What makes me wonder, is why the g has been put
 on the next line and why it was encoded at all?

i suppose the mail user agent decided
to split the rest onto the next line.

 I'm not too sure on the RfC part,
 but I would have expected something like:
 Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfung?=
 von E-Mail Adressen?

tell the programmers of that mail client then!

 Hmm, and why was the g encoded with iso-8859-1?

Because RFC0815 defines it as an Ueber-Umlaut. ;-)

Sven  [whio never uses umlauts in headers, anyway]



Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-18 Thread Alexander Skwar

»Sven Guckes« sagte am 2002-04-18 um 21:13:57 +0200 :
 * Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 17:57]:
  Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfun?=
  =?iso-8859-1?Q?g?= von E-Mail Adressen?
  User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i
  
  Is this the best way to encode the
  word Überprüfung at this position?
 
 No.  Better is Test.  ;-)

;)

 i suppose the mail user agent decided
 to split the rest onto the next line.

Well, but why did mutt do this?  Even with the g, the line would have
been shorter than 75 characters, and thus would still comply to RfC.

Or does the RfC require the next line to start with a QP header?

 tell the programmers of that mail client then!

Uhm, that's the *mutt*-users list, isn't it?  ;)  In case you simply
overlooked, the User-Agent was Mutt/1.3.28i.

Or are you saying I should post this to mutt-dev?

 Because RFC0815 defines it as an Ueber-Umlaut. ;-)

;)

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Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-18 Thread Sven Guckes

* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 19:43]:
 »Sven Guckes« sagte am 2002-04-18 um 21:13:57 +0200 :
  * Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-18 17:57]:
   Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfun?=
   =?iso-8859-1?Q?g?= von E-Mail Adressen?
   User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i
  i suppose the mail user agent decided
  to split the rest onto the next line.
 Well, but why did mutt do this?  Even with the g, the line would have
 been shorter than 75 characters, and thus would still comply to RfC.
 Or does the RfC require the next line to start with a QP header?

beats me. do you have some more examples for which this happens?
does mutt do the splitting of lines when the line is shorter?

try these:
 Subject: Überprüfung von E-Mail Adressen?
 Subject: Überprüfung von E-MailAdressen
 Subject: Überprüfung von EMailAdressen
 Subject: Überprüfung von MailAdressen
 Subject: Überprüfung von Adressen

what happens now?

  tell the programmers of that mail client then!
 Uhm, that's the *mutt*-users list, isn't it?  ;)
 Or are you saying I should post this to mutt-dev?

yep

Sven



Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-18 Thread Alexander Skwar

»Sven Guckes« sagte am 2002-04-18 um 22:31:50 +0200 :
 beats me. do you have some more examples for which this happens?
 does mutt do the splitting of lines when the line is shorter?

Yes, it does.

 what happens now?

All the time I get (well, sorta, of course):

Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DCberpr=FCfun?=
=?iso-8859-1?Q?g?= von MailAdressen

So, mutt always seperates the g from fun.

 yep

Will do.

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Re: Quoted-Printable header coding correct?

2002-04-18 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park


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Alas! Alexander Skwar spake thus:
 All the time I get (well, sorta, of course):
=20
 Subject: =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?=3DDCberpr=3DFCfun?=3D
 =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?g?=3D von MailAdressen
=20
 So, mutt always seperates the g from fun.

That's what you get for using wonky foreign characters like 'g' ;)

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