Re: Setting correct double-nested quotes (was: Changing the Mime type of the outgoing message by default?)

2001-05-12 Thread Lawrence Mitchell

* On [010511 22:45] Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2001-05-11 15:56:33 -0400, adam morley wrote:
 I've just been told that   is non-standard though.  which means 
 we are distributing a software package that is non-standard.  is 
 that bad?
 Is not _what_ standard?  If we don't say this is format=flowed, we
 also don't have to emit format=flowed.  
This non-standard refers to quoting levels, in conjunction with
format=flowed text, how to consider quoted text, and what defines the
quote depth, as far as I can make out.
The relevant RFC is; RFC 2646 section 4.5.
Though, from what I can make out from it, it doesn't apply when the
text format is not format=flowed.(?)

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Re: Setting correct double-nested quotes (was: Changing the Mime type of the outgoing message by default?)

2001-05-12 Thread adam morley

On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 02:36:07PM +0200, Lawrence Mitchell wrote:
 * On [010511 22:45] Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 2001-05-11 15:56:33 -0400, adam morley wrote:
  I've just been told that   is non-standard though.  which means 
  we are distributing a software package that is non-standard.  is 
  that bad?
  Is not _what_ standard?  If we don't say this is format=flowed, we
  also don't have to emit format=flowed.  
 This non-standard refers to quoting levels, in conjunction with
 format=flowed text, how to consider quoted text, and what defines the
 quote depth, as far as I can make out.
 The relevant RFC is; RFC 2646 section 4.5.
 Though, from what I can make out from it, it doesn't apply when the
 text format is not format=flowed.(?)

non-format flowed text is definately a gray area, and open to a little interpretation 
based on what is seen in multiple rfcs.  i see what you are saying, and i understand 
what thomas was saying.

 
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Re: Setting correct double-nested quotes (was: Changing the Mime type of the outgoing message by default?)

2001-05-11 Thread adam morley

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 06:49:19PM +0200, Lawrence Mitchell wrote:
 * On [010511 18:02] adam morley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Your nested quoting was also done incorrectly.  According to section 4.5
  of RFC 2646 there should be no space between the '' marks at the start
  of quoted lines.
  
  that, my friend was mutts doing, not mine.  so if someone could explain
  why/how to change that, then thanks!
 Using vim as an editor, I came up with this:
 change double-quoted text to RFC 2646 format
  autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead .followup,.letter,mutt*,nn.*,snd.*
 :%s/^\(.*\)/\1/
 The command on one line of course, hope that helps

ah, if mutts not putting in the  right, then MUTT is what is non-compliant, correct?  
i shouldn't have to make a vim macro to fix mutt's non-compliance?

 
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Re: Setting correct double-nested quotes (was: Changing the Mime type of the outgoing message by default?)

2001-05-11 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2001-05-11 13:21:40 -0400, adam morley wrote:

ah, if mutts not putting in the  right, then MUTT is what is 
non-compliant, correct?  i shouldn't have to make a vim macro to 
fix mutt's non-compliance?

It's configurable, and the mutt version you are using doesn't even 
claim that it's producing text/plain; format=flowed.

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Re: Setting correct double-nested quotes (was: Changing the Mime type of the outgoing message by default?)

2001-05-11 Thread adam morley

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 07:45:46PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:
 On 2001-05-11 13:21:40 -0400, adam morley wrote:
 
 ah, if mutts not putting in the  right, then MUTT is what is 
 non-compliant, correct?  i shouldn't have to make a vim macro to 
 fix mutt's non-compliance?
 
 It's configurable, and the mutt version you are using doesn't even 
 claim that it's producing text/plain; format=flowed.

so how do i make mutt set the quote thing correctly?  and im not setting format=flowed 
right now.  mainly because nobody's told me how to automate it save editing the source.

 
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Re: Setting correct double-nested quotes (was: Changing the Mime type of the outgoing message by default?)

2001-05-11 Thread adam morley

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:37:16PM -0500, Paul Cox wrote:
 On Friday, May 11, 2001, adam morley wrote:
 
  ah, if mutts not putting in the  right, then MUTT is what is non-compliant, 
correct?  i shouldn't have to make a vim macro to fix mutt's non-compliance?
 
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 Specifies the string to prepend to each line of text quoted in a message
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I've just been told that   is non-standard though.  which means we are distributing 
a software package that is non-standard.  is that bad?

 
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Re: Setting correct double-nested quotes (was: Changing the Mime type of the outgoing message by default?)

2001-05-11 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2001-05-11 15:56:33 -0400, adam morley wrote:

I've just been told that   is non-standard though.  which means 
we are distributing a software package that is non-standard.  is 
that bad?

Is not _what_ standard?  If we don't say this is format=flowed, we
also don't have to emit format=flowed.  

(Also, as I said, the CVS has an option to do nice and correct 
format=flowed when used together with the right kind of editor.)

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