Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-24 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-10-24 10:03:13 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

 This might be better off as an editor macro, IMHO.

I could imagine a nice function in mutt.

However, does anyone have an RFC for this which we could implement?

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Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-24 Thread Lars Hecking


 Is it possible to mark a message as Important or Urgent, so that the
 receiver notices this.
 I know this is common for other clients (Importance: or X-Priority:).
 It is of course possible to add this manually, but shouldn't this be an
 standard mail client feature? Or this not depreciated?

 I don't think there's a standard way of doing, or even a standard used
 by MUAs. Unless M$ introduced another one through the backdoor ...

 Some MUAs (elm, I think) provide support for a Precedence: header, but
 this header does something very different: it allows to tweak the
 priority of messages (= sort order) in sendmail's queue. The algorithm
 behind that is described in the Sendmail Installation and Operation Guide.




Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-24 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-10-24 11:10:28 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:

  Some MUAs (elm, I think) provide support for a Precedence:
  header, but this header does something very different: it allows
  to tweak the priority of messages (= sort order) in sendmail's
  queue. The algorithm behind that is described in the Sendmail
  Installation and Operation Guide.

... and not supported by MTAs different from sendmail, such as
postfix or qmail, right?

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Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-24 Thread Lars Hecking


   Some MUAs (elm, I think) provide support for a Precedence:
   header, but this header does something very different: it allows
   to tweak the priority of messages (= sort order) in sendmail's
   queue. The algorithm behind that is described in the Sendmail
   Installation and Operation Guide.
 
 ... and not supported by MTAs different from sendmail, such as
 postfix or qmail, right?

 Right for postfix. I cannot comment on qmail, and I certainly don't
 advocate to add support for this in mutt :)

# pwd
/usr/local/src/mail/snapshot-20001005
# find . -name '*.[ch]' |xargs grep -l Precedence:
# 




Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-24 Thread raf

Lars Hecking wrote:

 
  Is it possible to mark a message as Important or Urgent, so that the
  receiver notices this.
  I know this is common for other clients (Importance: or X-Priority:).
  It is of course possible to add this manually, but shouldn't this be an
  standard mail client feature? Or this not depreciated?
 
  I don't think there's a standard way of doing, or even a standard used
  by MUAs. Unless M$ introduced another one through the backdoor ...
 
  Some MUAs (elm, I think) provide support for a Precedence: header, but
  this header does something very different: it allows to tweak the
  priority of messages (= sort order) in sendmail's queue. The algorithm
  behind that is described in the Sendmail Installation and Operation Guide.

it's different to "Important" but very closely related to "Urgent" :)

 rfc2076: 3.9 Quality information
 
Can be "normal", "urgent" or "non-   Priority:  RFC 1327, not for
urgent" and can influence   general usage.
transmission speed and delivery.
 
Sometimes used as a priority Precedence:Non-standard,
value which can influence   controversial,
transmission speed and delivery.discouraged.
Common values are "bulk" and
"first-class". Other uses is to
control automatic replies and to
control return-of-content
facilities, and to stop mailing
list loops.
 
 PalmeInformational [Page 13]
 
 RFC 2076Internet Message Headers   February 1997
 
 
A hint from the originator to theImportance:RFC 1327 and
recipients about how important aRFC 1911,
message is. Values: High, normalexperimental
or low. Not used to control
transmission speed.
 
How sensitive it is to disclose  Sensitivity:   RFC 1327 and
this message to other people than   RFC 1911,
the specified recipients. Values:   experimental
Personal, private, company
confidential. The absence of this
header in messages gatewayed from
X.400 indicates that the message
is not sensitive.
 
Body parts are missing.  Incomplete-RFC 1327, not for
 Copy:  general usage.

looks like "Importance:" is valid.

raf




Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Thomas Roessler proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 On 2000-10-24 15:21:12 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 
  RFC 2076 - Common Internet Message Headers
 That's a summary of existing usage
 
 Yes - and it documents the common usages of the Priority: header.
 
  RFC 2524 - EMSD (Efficient Mail Submission and Delivery)
 Don't know that one.  Does it define a priority mechanism?
 
 Yes.  This is the most likely looking one so far.
 
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Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-24 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 24 Oct 2000:
 ... and not supported by MTAs different from sendmail, such as
 postfix or qmail, right?

Right for qmail too.


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Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-23 Thread Bruce J.A. Nourish

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:57:04PM +0200, Wouter Verheijen wrote:
 hi,
 
 Is it possible to mark a message as Important or Urgent, so that the
 receiver notices this.
 I know this is common for other clients (Importance: or X-Priority:).
 It is of course possible to add this manually, but shouldn't this be an
 standard mail client feature? Or this not depreciated?

I've been wanting to ask this for a while... I guess its nothing that can't
be done with my_hdr, E on the compose menu (or $edit_headers) and a few
scoring rules. But it would be nice to press (say) I on the compose menu
which would bring up a choice of (1) High (2) Normal (3) Low in the status
bar. Would anyone be willing to hack this in?

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Bruce J.A. Nourish (keys - see header) [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: flag as important when sending

2000-10-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Bruce J.A. Nourish proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 I've been wanting to ask this for a while... I guess its nothing that can't
 be done with my_hdr, E on the compose menu (or $edit_headers) and a few
 scoring rules. But it would be nice to press (say) I on the compose menu
 which would bring up a choice of (1) High (2) Normal (3) Low in the status
 bar. Would anyone be willing to hack this in?

This might be better off as an editor macro, IMHO.

-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis
mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI
He hadn't a single redeeming vice.
-- Oscar Wilde