Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2019-05-25 08:57, Cameron Simpson wrote:

> (Looks at the default key bindings...) And here's a direct counter
> example to my claim that mutt rarely uses the Escape key :-)

if meta_key is unset,   is exactly the same as .

Does it make more sense now that some of these would be among the
default bindings?

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Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-24 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 25May2019 08:57, Cameron Simpson  wrote:

My own approach with collapsing threads is:

Macros which bind '{' and '}' to collapse-thread; I find this 
convenient.


Oh yes, I also bind ^-r like this:

 macro index Cameron Simpson \CR "" "mark 
the current thread as read"

which marks the whole thread as read and collapses it.

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Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-24 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 23May2019 12:05, Wim  wrote:

I find the 'collapse-all' threads switch very good for handling
uninteresting threads.


(Looks at the default key bindings...) And here's a direct counter 
example to my claim that mutt rarely uses the Escape key :-)


My own approach with collapsing threads is:

Macros which bind '{' and '}' to collapse-thread; I find this 
convenient.


A sequence of folder hooks like this:

 folder-hook . 'push ":set collapse_unread=no"'
 folder-hook . 'push ":set 
auto_tag=no~T~P~NN~T:set
 auto_tag=yes"'
 folder-hook . 'push ""'

This causes all threads with no new messages to be collapsed, greatly 
reducing the vertical noise in list discussions. Method:


 - collapse_unread=no to not collapse threads with new messages

 - mark any new messages from me as read (after all, I wrote them!)

 - collapse all, which now avoids collapsing the threads with new 
   messages


I really need to teach my fingers the  keystrokes.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 


Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-24 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 23May2019 08:16, Wim  wrote:

On Thursday, 23 May at 00:27, Jude DaShiell wrote:
that's listed as ^D.  Does that convention translate to shift-6 then 
type upper-case D?


That means one's got to press the 'Esc' and the 'd' keys at the same
time.


No, it means Control and 'd'.

Escape is normally a keystroke type key (like the letters etc), unlike 
Control or Shift etc which are modifiers.


Escape is sometimes used as a prefix character in some environments 
(notably Emacs and readline modes using emacs key bindings) but rarely 
in mutt.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson  (formerly c...@zip.com.au)


Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-23 Thread Wim
Hi Matthis,

On Thursday, 23 May at 09:07, Matthias Apitz wrote:

> El día Thursday, May 23, 2019 a las 08:16:31AM +0200, Wim escribió:
>
> > Hi Jude,
> >
> > On Thursday, 23 May at 00:27, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >
> > > that's listed as ^D.  Does that convention translate to shift-6 then type
> > > upper-case D?
> > >
> >
> > That means one's got to press the 'Esc' and the 'd' keys at the same
> > time.
>
> Isn't this Ctrl+D at the same time? At least this is what I use to
> delete full threads without reading them.
>
> Btw: When I compare mutt with the MUA app on my Ubuntu phone (Dekko),
> this deletion of full threads is what I most miss in this MUA, esp. if
> one is subscribed to a lot of technical mailing lists and often it
> happens that a thread is of no interest or one can't say anything in
> this for help.
>

I find the 'collapse-all' threads switch very good for handling
uninteresting threads.

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Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, May 23, 2019 a las 08:16:31AM +0200, Wim escribió:

> Hi Jude,
> 
> On Thursday, 23 May at 00:27, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
> > that's listed as ^D.  Does that convention translate to shift-6 then type
> > upper-case D?
> >
> 
> That means one's got to press the 'Esc' and the 'd' keys at the same
> time.

Isn't this Ctrl+D at the same time? At least this is what I use to
delete full threads without reading them.

Btw: When I compare mutt with the MUA app on my Ubuntu phone (Dekko),
this deletion of full threads is what I most miss in this MUA, esp. if
one is subscribed to a lot of technical mailing lists and often it
happens that a thread is of no interest or one can't say anything in
this for help.

matthias

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Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-23 Thread Wim
Hi Jude,

On Thursday, 23 May at 00:27, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> that's listed as ^D.  Does that convention translate to shift-6 then type
> upper-case D?
>

That means one's got to press the 'Esc' and the 'd' keys at the same
time.

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Re: delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-22 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jude DaShiell  [05-22-19 18:27]:
> that's listed as ^D.  Does that convention translate to shift-6 then type
> upper-case D?

the carat, "^" is normally and indication to use the "control" key, 
  

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delete-thread key combination?

2019-05-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
that's listed as ^D.  Does that convention translate to shift-6 then type
upper-case D?


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