mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Chown
Hi,

I didn't get a reply when I asked before, still keen to find out how
to avoid mutt creating/leaving an empty .muttxx fo9lder in the
directory in which an attachment is saved.   I assume there's some
option to autodelete these folders?

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Tim




Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Rado S
=- Tim Chown wrote on Tue 23.Sep'08 at 10:31:27 +0100 -=

 I didn't get a reply when I asked before, still keen to find out
 how to avoid mutt creating/leaving an empty .muttxx fo9lder in
 the directory in which an attachment is saved. I assume there's
 some option to autodelete these folders?

Yes, rmdir ~/.mutt*

Scan mutt-dev archive for this topic to understand origin, problems
and workarounds.

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EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude.
You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.


Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Chown
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 04:08:35PM +0200, Rado S wrote:
 =- Tim Chown wrote on Tue 23.Sep'08 at 10:31:27 +0100 -=
 
  I didn't get a reply when I asked before, still keen to find out
  how to avoid mutt creating/leaving an empty .muttxx fo9lder in
  the directory in which an attachment is saved. I assume there's
  some option to autodelete these folders?
 
 Yes, rmdir ~/.mutt*
 
 Scan mutt-dev archive for this topic to understand origin, problems
 and workarounds.

Hmm, well the Yahoo view of mtt devs mails doesn't throw up anything
obvious.  I think 'folder', 'attachment', 'save' are too generic a
term to find a specific thread.

Just very sad my mutt poops everywhere.   Must be possible to train him.

After recent discussions I'm almost afraid to ask... :/

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Tim




Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Rado S
=- Tim Chown wrote on Tue 23.Sep'08 at 15:57:47 +0100 -=

  Scan mutt-dev archive for this topic to understand origin, problems
  and workarounds.
 
 Hmm, well the Yahoo view of mtt devs mails doesn't throw up
 anything obvious. I think 'folder', 'attachment', 'save' are too
 generic a term to find a specific thread.

For me it was related to NFS, and it was about tmpdir/tmpfile
generation. Lookout for posts by me, I suggested a patch to revert
the newly introduced behaviour.

 After recent discussions I'm almost afraid to ask... :/

*grins*

No worries, just keep improving.

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Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, September 23 at 10:31 AM, quoth Tim Chown:
 I didn't get a reply when I asked before, still keen to find out how 
 to avoid mutt creating/leaving an empty .muttxx fo9lder in the 
 directory in which an attachment is saved.   I assume there's some 
 option to autodelete these folders?

There is no option to auto-delete those folders, they are deleted 
whenever possible. The reason they stick around is when there's a 
filesystem problem, and mutt doesn't think the directory is empty.

Let me guess: you're using either vfat or something like sshfs?

It boils down to the fact that some filesystems do not support 
operations that are necessary for safe operation, and give 
inconsistent or unreliable error codes when you try. This is yet 
another reason why using these sorts of filesystems for anything 
important in a unix system is a really bad idea. For more information, 
check this: http://marc.info/?l=mutt-devm=116775858411732w=2

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Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, September 23 at 05:10 PM, quoth Rado S:
For me it was related to NFS, and it was about tmpdir/tmpfile
generation. Lookout for posts by me, I suggested a patch to revert
the newly introduced behaviour.

http://marc.info/?l=mutt-devm=117588920724808w=2

Here's the relevant patch... which is supposed to fix the problem. 
http://dev.mutt.org/trac/changeset/c0e6d2617984/

~Kyle
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Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:28:33AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
 http://dev.mutt.org/trac/changeset/c0e6d2617984/
 
 ~Kyle
 - -- 
 If an elderly respected expert in a given field tells you that 
 something can be done he is almost certainly right. If an elderly 
 respected expert in a given field tells you that something is 
 impossible, he is almost certainly wrong.
   -- Robert A. Heinlein

And if an elderly respected expert in a given field tells you
RTFM, don't whine about it. RTFM advice is not (usually) an insult 
or an attempt to be nasty. Its usually valid and ALWAYS a good
idea. 

Yes its the wrong thread, but the above sig was too timely to
pass up! :-) 

In Summary:  

Never be afraid to ask and don't take RTFM personally. 

JK


Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:54:19AM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote:
 And if an elderly respected expert in a given field tells you
 RTFM, don't whine about it. RTFM advice is not (usually) an insult 
 or an attempt to be nasty. Its usually valid and ALWAYS a good
 idea. 

On the other hand, some people who offer RTFM as advice are neither
elderly nor respected.  And some just do it way too often, period.

I second David's well-said thoughts about the subject, especially in
the context of Mutt.  No matter how much I love it, Mutt's
configuration is intricate and complicated in the extreme; reading its
manual is a bit like reading a text on computer architecture.  It
contains lots of good information which is usually right (but not
always), but that is both a blessing and a curse:  IT CONTAINS LOTS OF
INFORMATION. :)  It's also, IMO, not very well organized from the
perspective of I want to solve this particular problem with my
e-mail, how do I do it?  Finding what you need in the manual can be
quite difficult, unless you know exactly what you're looking for, and
even then...  If you have time to sit down and read the 240+ some-odd*
pages of Mutt's manual, and you're very serious about managing your
e-mail, then you should do that.  But in the end, even if they do need
more power than what Pine or Outlook offer, most people just want to
read their mail.

-
* as approximated by paging at 66 lines and counting pages until I got
  bored with counting at about 50%

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Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Derek Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 No matter how much I love it, Mutt's configuration is intricate and
 complicated in the extreme;

You haven't tried configuring Sendmail, have you? ;-)

*SCNR*
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Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* Sander Smeenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-23 19:35]:
 Quoting Derek Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 No matter how much I love it, Mutt's configuration is intricate and
 complicated in the extreme;
 
 You haven't tried configuring Sendmail, have you? ;-)

For a change you could have a look at fvwm ;-)


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Re: mutt's .mutt folders when saving attachments?

2008-09-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 07:33:31PM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote:
 Quoting Derek Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  No matter how much I love it, Mutt's configuration is intricate and
  complicated in the extreme;
 
 You haven't tried configuring Sendmail, have you? ;-)

As a matter of fact, being a professional system administrator, I
have... on many occasions.  I think Sendmail is much easier. :)
[...unless you need to do something really unusual.]

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