AW: [MLO] Possibly a new user...feel lost LOL // reply LISA
Hi Lisa, hi all :) thanks for your input. I really appreciate all of it; I think the main problem for me in the beggining was/is sometimes still to get inspired so I could come up with my own ways of using all the views, contexts, goals and that. I am only used to one-dimensional lists so I felt it was a little hard to think out of the box. I did realize that only a few days ago I was really trying to find the perfect setup. But soon I also realized what I came up with (all sorts of custom formatting _plus_ icons _plus_ contexts) was way too much and things got confusing. I then reverted pretty much all of the formatting and stick with the initial setup for context and projects. Your idea of using numbers for the sections (folders?) sounds interesting! I do use folders and even subfolders. In there I got my projects and also quick tasks (one offs? I came across that word from someone's posting). So in outline view I sorted things according to their subject for now and I would also want to assign contexts. I guess up to this point, I have no problems doing it right away; an inbox does put some pressure on me though: I tend to procrastinate a lot and if I know I need to sort my inbox out I fear it will actually not get done in time. So for now I try to come up with an easy outline. If in doubt, I can always create a new folder for the task I want to write down. My main folders are Home and Computer, so this seems easy to decide. Thank you for the clarification on the projects idea. I do understand it better now. I still struggle a little with it as I cannot come up with a valid example from my projects, but it is no problem. I just take it the way it is and will keep it in mind. Maybe the use comes to my mind soon. kind regards, Brienne Von: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Lisa Stroyan Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012 05:41 An: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Betreff: Re: [MLO] Possibly a new user...feel lost LOL Hi Brienne, and welcome! On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Brienne maz...@googlemail.com wrote: I feel a bit lost with all the options, though I am also intrigued by the complexity of this program. Oh and I hope it is ok that I started a new thread? I just felt it would be impolite to hi-jack someone's New user thread. Yes, please start a new thread any time you have a new topic-- no problem. I suffer from ADD (yes, that attention thing ;) ) and my mind is constantly on the edge of bursting apart from ideas, do-not-forgets and what-I-always-wanted-to-do's. So I really really need a good way to sort things out and get them on paper sorted in a way that fits to my needs or, rather, thinking. I am very intrigued by the idea of having these contexts, projects and goals. That would cover a lot of the things that are on my mind; I had a bit of a hard time finding out how far automatic the program gets though: Is there a way to automatically asign contexts for instance, by typing an @ in front of a word? Or are all these settings merely done manually through the properties dialog? My brain also feels bursting a lot of the time :) If I'm at my PC I use the Rapid Task Entry as someone else suggested. On Android I have the MLO microphone widget that starts a voice recording and translates it to text. I actually don't try to figure out what context to put the task in, etc, in that moment. I find it takes two different modes of my brain for this, and if I let myself worry about, where should I put this, what context, etc then I get distracted from whatever I was doing before and start thinking about task management. Instead, I try to regularly empty my inbox by (1) assigning a context, (2) assigning a goal if appropriate, (3) deciding if I want to break it down into smaller tasks, and then (4) moving it to the right place in my task outline tree. My tree has numbers in front of the sections, so when I'm ready to move I hit Ctrl-M, 4 and it goes to the right place. I also read somewhere that projects always have to be marked done manually, is that right? Sounds a little odd to me, since I do see the percentage changing with the subtasks getting done. Rarely is a project done just because the subtasks one has already thought of have gotten completed. Usually there are more tasks to finish up and so the Project task itself serves as that reminder. I often word my Projects as actions that remind me to finalize. Complete the kitchen re-organization for example. That is why, when a project's subtasks are all completed, the Project task itself becomes Active. I hope this wasnt much too long for a first introduction, and please excuse my mistakes in grammar and spelling. English is my second language and my ADD does the rest to my spelling ;))) Not at all! -- Lisa _ Lisa Stroyan, mailto: lstro...@gmail.com mailto:lstro...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone
I have for all intents and purposes moved away from MLO because the sync of BlackBerry to cloud was spotty at best. When it did sync it worked fine, but probably 60% of the time a sync attempt would fail. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: fernando.bara...@gmail.com fernando.bara...@gmail.com Sender: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:59:20 To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Reply-To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone Cloud sync works for me on my netbook, notebook, desktop computers and also on my LG Android Phone. I only have 160 tasks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: FTP sync on Android ?
Phil's reply regarding FTP sync is pretty thorough and I agree, but I just want to add one point. Using FTP Sync to propagate a desktop MLO profile from one system to another is really a copy, not a sync. If you have two desktops with MLO, each with a local profile file with identical contents, and you add task A on one and task B on the other and then sync, there is no way using FTP sync to create a single profile containing both tasks A and B. The best you can do is to make the two identical again, with either task A or task B but not both. With the old USB sync as well as the current wifi and cloud sync, there's a record-by-record reconciliation that results in task A and task B present in all synched platforms. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/mxuinc2IS-YJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: FTP sync on Android ?
Thanks for the replies with additional information on this. On Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:51:00 UTC+1, Rab wrote: Is it possible to use FTP sync on the Android version ? I've set it up to sync on our PC's but can't find the option for configuring the settings on our phones.. Thanks, Rab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/6LR5R1srCYEJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: What I really LIKE about MyLifeOrganized!
I like the ability to repeat tasks, yet skip an occurrence without having to delete and recreate the task. I'd love to see the skip occurrence show up in the iPhone version. On Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:55:35 AM UTC-4, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) wrote: Please post here a few lines about what you really LIKE about MyLifeOrganized application. The happy users are usually quiet and enjoying the software. The unhappy are posting new feature requests :-) So let’s keep the balance here – say us what you are using in MLO and what we did right. Your posts in this thread will help us to understand what features are frequently used and implemented the right way. Newbie may get new information from real users about MLO from this thread! Andrey. www.mylifeorganized.net P.S. And as always you can say what you want to be improved in other forum threads, feature requests etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/LcvU6bhBdM0J. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] android/windows sync issues
Hi, all. I'm replying to the conversation about synching which was happening here: https: //groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mylifeorganized/6IPX0WSNwYA/TteMfhEUpA0J I moved it because I didn't think goodbye everyone was a good title for what we are discussing. I want to thank Lisa and ctenorman for thoughtful and constructive posts which attempted to promote better understanding of the issue or maybe move towards a solution. As requested I will attempt to lay out what I have observed, and will also review what I have attempted, so far, to do about it. The first and biggest point is that I have made several attempts to create a small file with test cases where I could reproduce the problem in a simplified context, but I have been unsuccessful. Perhaps because a true test case would probably involve a different cloud sync file as well as a different set of task scheduler entries in Windows and I have never quite had the time it would take to get all of that set up correctly. Before describing the symptoms, here is a little about my setup. The first folder in my outline is routines and contains seven repeating projects: daily tasks, weekly, monthly, quarterly and three annual projects: spring autumn and taxtime. Each project repeats as suggested by its name and contains a number of tasks. The tasks themselves are not repeating but are recreated when the project repeats. Advanced recurrence options are set to recur the project when all subtasks are complete and to reset all subtasks when the project recurrs. This means that when I complete the last task in today's daily project the project will reset for tomorrow, with all the tasks ready to go but none of them in active tasks until tomorrow. It also means that if tomorrow arrives and there are a couple of tasks I didn't get to, I can just click the project complete and the tasks are all reset to today. This is all functionality that MLO explicitly supports, and it matches quite well with the way that I think about my work. I would be totally happy with all of this were it not for the sync issues. The core of the problem is that about two to three times a week, I will open the daily project in the morning and find that the due date is the day before yesterday. Very occasionally the date will be yesterday but usually its the day before. It's often the case that by the time I notice, I have already ticked off some of today's tasks, not realizing they were actually for the day before yesterday. There's a very high probability that when I get the parent date set correctly, the completed tasks will be reset to uncomplete. For the daily tasks, I usually can remember which ones I did and check them again but every once in a while I get it wrong. (If I was so good at remembering whether I did a task today or if it was yesterday, I would not need MLO as much as I do). I am completely sure of the accuracy of the above paragraph. This next thing I am less sure of, but in the interest of completeness I will mention it: I believe that when I add a new subtask to the daily project and later that day there's a sync problem, that sometimes the new task vanishes. Once every month or two, I will be checking off tasks in the weekly project and discover that it is for two weeks ago. This is pretty similar to the daily problem except that I am much less likely to have an active memory of which monthly tasks I have already completed this month. It happened to me once for a monthly project that was dated for two months prior. If I pay total attention and check the dates of each task before completing it, I can avoid most but not all occurrences of this problem. But my purpose in using MLO is to use less of my brain thinking about the status of my tasks and more of my brain getting them done. The need for this kind of hypervigilance defeats my purpose. The worst thing is that I learned from GTD the value of having a trusted repository of things to do and then letting go of the energy I was spending holding on to my mental lists. In the current circumstance I have to maintain a mental shadow list of what MLO should look like, and continuously check MLO against expected. I experienced real productivity gains after I adopted MLO and learned to let go. I have lost that and I miss it. Here's what I have done about it: 1. I implemented a scheduled task on Windows that launches a copy of MLO with a command-line parameter to force a cloud sync. I wrote this myself before it showed up in the forums, based on the user guide's documentation of command line parameters and my knowledge of the Windows task scheduler. I run this hourly. About once every week or two it fails. My belief is that failure entails a conflict between a foreground copy of MLO and the background copy launched by the scheduler. Symptoms involve windows error messages and reports by the foreground copy that it cannot access the profile file. The most
RE: [MLO] Re: What I really LIKE about MyLifeOrganized!
Hi, Wolfgang. There are probably better ways of finding the name and address of the MLO developer but if you look at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/tree/browse_frm/month/2005-0 3/3a3eae41b1c52cb7?rnum=21 https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/tree/browse_frm/month/2005- 03/3a3eae41b1c52cb7?rnum=21_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmylifeorganized%2Fbrowse_frm%2F month%2F2005-03%3F _done=%2Fgroup%2Fmylifeorganized%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2005-03%3F you will see Andrey Tkachuk, Ukraine From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:17 PM To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] Re: What I really LIKE about MyLifeOrganized! I've discovered MLO a few days ago and use it on Windows and Android. This is the first GTD software that satisfies all my requirements (have tried paper, Outlook activity lists, Outlook add-in, ThinkingRock)! - Syncs with Outlook and Android (over WiFi) - Allows GTD + Covey setup - Is flexible enough to support my personal style of doing things (structure and process) - Superb recurrence feature - Customizable (filters, formatting) - Easy and motivating to use (and yes, if all else fails, reading the manual helps) - and many more things I don't even use yet At the moment, I can't think of any features I'm missing (and that says something...). Maybe some more information about your company (I haven't been able to find any name or address, which happens to be illegal in some countries - if you're based there - and doesn't inspire confidence). Wolfgang -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/Erl-XSeaLFYJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone
Just an FYI guys... Someone brought to my attention this last post of mine and I just wanted to clarify and say that I meant to use the term 'wary', as in being careful, not 'weary', as in growing tired of people saying they were having sync issues. That's not what I meant to say so sorry for the confusion if there was. All I meant to say was that when I hear people say they have sync issues, I try to be careful and not assume that it's the software when, in fact, they may not be syncing correctly or have their settings set in such a way that would be causing the problem. That was my case a month or two back and I had others help me with that. I realized that the set up I had wasn't the best way to sync and so I was told to apply the server side on the Android app and that solved my problem. That's all I was trying to say. I just didn't say it really well. Thanks guys. Holmes On Monday, July 23, 2012 7:27:56 PM UTC-4, Holmes245 wrote: robisme, like you, I haven't been experiencing any sync issues between Windows and Android. At first I thought I was until Lisa S (I think it was) suggested that I make sure I had my Android app set to apply the server version. After that, I stopped having what I thought were sync issues caused by the software itself. That's why I'm weary when people say their having problems syncing and that it must be the software. On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:44:20 AM UTC-4, robisme wrote: Am I the only one here never having any sync issue with MLO Cloud Sync ? Please, tell me what are those issue ? It's not for argue, rather for knowing what can expect me if I don't care. Le lundi 23 juillet 2012 15:01:33 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit : I actually agree about MLO's rich feature set, and I don't think I'm ready for an all-cloud task manager. I picked MLO for its handling of dependencies, but also because the sync was do much cleaner and error free than what I had been using. MLO sync to Blackberry via USB was clean, error-free and fast, unlike Intellisynch to Lotus Notes which was full of glitches. I always felt that I was arm-wrestling with Intellisynch, sometimes I would win, other times after a long struggle I would lose. The current generation of cloud sync is not as bad as Intellisynch was but the feeling of arm wrestling is back. Maybe I need to go back to wifi sync, where a more realistic conflict resolution is available. It's just that the cloud thing is so damned convenient. robisme robillardoliv...@gmail.com wrote: The flexibility you'll win in term of sync, you'll, imho, loose it it term of daily use flexibility. Try to bulk move, change context, format, color, date, etc. in Toodledo Try to copy multiple task as child of another task. Just try yo delete multiple task at once ... Drag and drop outlook items Use it offline etc Perhaps the online services will grow in term of flexibility, but I think for the moment that a standalone pc software, as soos as it comes with a sync feature that works well, is far from being obsolete. IMHO. Le dimanche 22 juillet 2012 15:10:50 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit : Hi, Antun. Thanks for posting your solution. In my frustration with MLO’s buggy sync I have considered trying Toodledo, but I am stopped by the lack of support for task dependencies. Have you found a way to overcome this? *From:* mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Antkh *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:44 AM *To:* mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone Same to me, I'm leaving MLO for cloud services. My opinion is that MLO as a standalone PC-software is completely obsolete. I use Google services, Dropbox, etc. from any location and terminal. MLO doesn’t allow such flexibility. And MLO for Android is too buggy (it even messed my sync-file in the Cloud once). And besides, the ability to sync single small file (charging a price for this feature!!) and proudly name it «MLO Cloud Solution» is ridiculous! So, I’ve conducted an analysis of different cloud To-Do services and performed a test of my complete solution for 1 month. And it suits me perfectly, my productivity has risen greatly! So, here it is: *Toodledo (Pro account) + Ultimate To-Do List (Android) + Pure Grid calendar widget (Android)* So, I’m giving up the subscription to this MLO Group, goodbye to everyone. See you on Toodledo forums maybe)) P.S. Other cloud services I looked at: GQueues, NirvanaHQ, Doit.im, Producteev, Nozbe, Todoist, Smthngs. IMHO Toodledo is most flexible to build GTD or ANY OTHER time management system for any single person. четверг, 12 июля 2012 г., 0:41:28 UTC+4 пользователь João Melo написал: Hello there, What i think is really amazing in MLO is its powerful query capabilities in the todo. I did all kind of saved views and i loved it. It is because the mobile
