RE: Production release of MySql 4.1
At 14:09 -0700 6/30/04, Jon Frisby wrote: As I understand it, the particular cycle a release is in depends on how long it's been since a major bug was reported. So an alpha becomes a beta if nobody reports a major bug after N days, and a beta becomes a production release if goes N days without a major bug report. Thus, even if 4.1.3 is released as alpha, it could retroactively be declared beta, and then even No, once a given version is released, it doesn't get changed retroactively. Either a 4.1.3a release would be done, or a 4.1.4 release would be done. release -- although that's pretty unlikely. The long and short of it though, is that nobody can tell you how long until 4.1 will go beta. Well, 4.1.3 has been announced today as a -beta release, so we all know the answer to this now. :-) -JF -Original Message- From: Jonathan Soong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:20 PM To: Jocelyn Fournier Cc: John Murphy; Emmanuel van der Meulen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1 Jocelyn Fournier wrote: Hi, AFAIK 4.1.3 should be beta. It is a little frustrating, at Linux Conf Adelaide 2004 (January), the Mysql guy there said that 4.1 would be in beta, in the next few weeks ... Its now July and its still in Alpha. It says on the webpage MySQL 4.1 -- Alpha release (use this for new development) - and it has said that for 6months+ So we did our development on 4.1, and were expecting it to be beta by February 2004. We're ready to roll it out as soon as it hits beta, i told my boss it would be in beta by March 2004 at the latest. We now have hardware sitting for around with 4.1 alpha on it that cannot be deployed. Does anyone actually have a concrete date when 4.1 will go into beta? Cheers Jon -- Paul DuBois, MySQL Documentation Team Madison, Wisconsin, USA MySQL AB, www.mysql.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Production release of MySql 4.1
As I understand it, the particular cycle a release is in depends on how long it's been since a major bug was reported. So an alpha becomes a beta if nobody reports a major bug after N days, and a beta becomes a production release if goes N days without a major bug report. Thus, even if 4.1.3 is released as alpha, it could retroactively be declared beta, and then even release -- although that's pretty unlikely. The long and short of it though, is that nobody can tell you how long until 4.1 will go beta. -JF -Original Message- From: Jonathan Soong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:20 PM To: Jocelyn Fournier Cc: John Murphy; Emmanuel van der Meulen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1 Jocelyn Fournier wrote: Hi, AFAIK 4.1.3 should be beta. It is a little frustrating, at Linux Conf Adelaide 2004 (January), the Mysql guy there said that 4.1 would be in beta, in the next few weeks ... Its now July and its still in Alpha. It says on the webpage MySQL 4.1 -- Alpha release (use this for new development) - and it has said that for 6months+ So we did our development on 4.1, and were expecting it to be beta by February 2004. We're ready to roll it out as soon as it hits beta, i told my boss it would be in beta by March 2004 at the latest. We now have hardware sitting for around with 4.1 alpha on it that cannot be deployed. Does anyone actually have a concrete date when 4.1 will go into beta? Cheers Jon -- Jonathan Soong Information Services Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science (IMVS) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.imvs.sa.gov.au Tel : +61 8 82223095 Fax : +61 8 82223147 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
I saw reference somewhere (I believe it was either an Apache or PHP discussion) to 4.1.3 being beta but I'm not sure if this was just wishful thinking on the part of those particular developers. If this is the case then going by the dates of previous releases in the 4.1 branch (not always a good guide) then 4.1 will go beta somewhere around the period November 2004 to February 2005. How long was 4.0 is alpha? I seem to recall it was more than 6 months. Are you able to run 4.1 in some sort of test environment to see how it performs for you? You may find it works well enough to deploy right now, you may not. A major bug for one guy may not affect you at all - it could be platform specific or affect a feature you don't use. Cheers Andrew. - Original Message - From: Jon Frisby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan Soong' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: RE: Production release of MySql 4.1 As I understand it, the particular cycle a release is in depends on how long it's been since a major bug was reported. So an alpha becomes a beta if nobody reports a major bug after N days, and a beta becomes a production release if goes N days without a major bug report. Thus, even if 4.1.3 is released as alpha, it could retroactively be declared beta, and then even release -- although that's pretty unlikely. The long and short of it though, is that nobody can tell you how long until 4.1 will go beta. -JF -Original Message- From: Jonathan Soong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:20 PM To: Jocelyn Fournier Cc: John Murphy; Emmanuel van der Meulen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1 Jocelyn Fournier wrote: Hi, AFAIK 4.1.3 should be beta. It is a little frustrating, at Linux Conf Adelaide 2004 (January), the Mysql guy there said that 4.1 would be in beta, in the next few weeks ... Its now July and its still in Alpha. It says on the webpage MySQL 4.1 -- Alpha release (use this for new development) - and it has said that for 6months+ So we did our development on 4.1, and were expecting it to be beta by February 2004. We're ready to roll it out as soon as it hits beta, i told my boss it would be in beta by March 2004 at the latest. We now have hardware sitting for around with 4.1 alpha on it that cannot be deployed. Does anyone actually have a concrete date when 4.1 will go into beta? Cheers Jon -- Jonathan Soong Information Services Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science (IMVS) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.imvs.sa.gov.au Tel : +61 8 82223095 Fax : +61 8 82223147 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
Hi, 4.1.3 is labeled beta in the bktree. So I assume 4.1.3 will be beta when it will be released ;) Regards, Jocelyn - Original Message - From: Andrew Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jon Frisby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:45 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: Production release of MySql 4.1 I saw reference somewhere (I believe it was either an Apache or PHP discussion) to 4.1.3 being beta but I'm not sure if this was just wishful thinking on the part of those particular developers. If this is the case then going by the dates of previous releases in the 4.1 branch (not always a good guide) then 4.1 will go beta somewhere around the period November 2004 to February 2005. How long was 4.0 is alpha? I seem to recall it was more than 6 months. Are you able to run 4.1 in some sort of test environment to see how it performs for you? You may find it works well enough to deploy right now, you may not. A major bug for one guy may not affect you at all - it could be platform specific or affect a feature you don't use. Cheers Andrew. - Original Message - From: Jon Frisby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jonathan Soong' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: RE: Production release of MySql 4.1 As I understand it, the particular cycle a release is in depends on how long it's been since a major bug was reported. So an alpha becomes a beta if nobody reports a major bug after N days, and a beta becomes a production release if goes N days without a major bug report. Thus, even if 4.1.3 is released as alpha, it could retroactively be declared beta, and then even release -- although that's pretty unlikely. The long and short of it though, is that nobody can tell you how long until 4.1 will go beta. -JF -Original Message- From: Jonathan Soong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:20 PM To: Jocelyn Fournier Cc: John Murphy; Emmanuel van der Meulen; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1 Jocelyn Fournier wrote: Hi, AFAIK 4.1.3 should be beta. It is a little frustrating, at Linux Conf Adelaide 2004 (January), the Mysql guy there said that 4.1 would be in beta, in the next few weeks ... Its now July and its still in Alpha. It says on the webpage MySQL 4.1 -- Alpha release (use this for new development) - and it has said that for 6months+ So we did our development on 4.1, and were expecting it to be beta by February 2004. We're ready to roll it out as soon as it hits beta, i told my boss it would be in beta by March 2004 at the latest. We now have hardware sitting for around with 4.1 alpha on it that cannot be deployed. Does anyone actually have a concrete date when 4.1 will go into beta? Cheers Jon -- Jonathan Soong Information Services Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science (IMVS) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.imvs.sa.gov.au Tel : +61 8 82223095 Fax : +61 8 82223147 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:52:32PM +0200, Jocelyn Fournier wrote: Hi, 4.1.3 is labeled beta in the bktree. So I assume 4.1.3 will be beta when it will be released ;) And that looks to be soon, based on the commits I've seen. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny | Perl, Web, MySQL, Linux Magazine, Yahoo! [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://jeremy.zawodny.com/ [book] High Performance MySQL -- http://highperformancemysql.com/ -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
Yes indeed, Lenz is preparing the build and has updated the news section. (let's hope no critical bugs will be discovered which could slip the release :)) Jocelyn - Original Message - From: Jeremy Zawodny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jocelyn Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andrew Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jon Frisby [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:02 AM Subject: Re: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1 On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:52:32PM +0200, Jocelyn Fournier wrote: Hi, 4.1.3 is labeled beta in the bktree. So I assume 4.1.3 will be beta when it will be released ;) And that looks to be soon, based on the commits I've seen. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny | Perl, Web, MySQL, Linux Magazine, Yahoo! [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://jeremy.zawodny.com/ [book] High Performance MySQL -- http://highperformancemysql.com/ -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
Jocelyn Fournier wrote: Hi, AFAIK 4.1.3 should be beta. It is a little frustrating, at Linux Conf Adelaide 2004 (January), the Mysql guy there said that 4.1 would be in beta, in the next few weeks ... Its now July and its still in Alpha. It says on the webpage MySQL 4.1 -- Alpha release (use this for new development) - and it has said that for 6months+ So we did our development on 4.1, and were expecting it to be beta by February 2004. We're ready to roll it out as soon as it hits beta, i told my boss it would be in beta by March 2004 at the latest. We now have hardware sitting for around with 4.1 alpha on it that cannot be deployed. Does anyone actually have a concrete date when 4.1 will go into beta? Cheers Jon -- Jonathan Soong Information Services Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science (IMVS) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.imvs.sa.gov.au Tel : +61 8 82223095 Fax : +61 8 82223147 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Production release of MySql 4.1
Daniel Kasak wrote on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 00:38; Emmanuel van der Meulen wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have an estimate of when MySql 4.1 will be released for production. MySql.cm says soon. Please advise, would that likely be weeks/months? Kind regards Emmanuel Months. I'd say at least 6 months. Thank you for the note and valuable feedback. Kind regards Emmanuel -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
Emmanuel van der Meulen wrote: Daniel Kasak wrote on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 00:38; Emmanuel van der Meulen wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have an estimate of when MySql 4.1 will be released for production. MySql.cm says soon. Please advise, would that likely be weeks/months? Kind regards Emmanuel Months. I'd say at least 6 months. Thank you for the note and valuable feedback. Kind regards Emmanuel How about when 4.1 will go beta. Is that closer? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
Hi, AFAIK 4.1.3 should be beta. Regards, Jocelyn - Original Message - From: John Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Emmanuel van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Production release of MySql 4.1 Emmanuel van der Meulen wrote: Daniel Kasak wrote on Tuesday, June 08, 2004 00:38; Emmanuel van der Meulen wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have an estimate of when MySql 4.1 will be released for production. MySql.cm says soon. Please advise, would that likely be weeks/months? Kind regards Emmanuel Months. I'd say at least 6 months. Thank you for the note and valuable feedback. Kind regards Emmanuel How about when 4.1 will go beta. Is that closer? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Production release of MySql 4.1
Emmanuel van der Meulen wrote: Hello all, Does anyone have an estimate of when MySql 4.1 will be released for production. MySql.cm says soon. Please advise, would that likely be weeks/months? Kind regards Emmanuel Months. I'd say at least 6 months. -- Daniel Kasak IT Developer NUS Consulting Group Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060 T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.nusconsulting.com.au -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
