[mythtv-users] External audio
Has anyone used any USB attached external audio devices like the Extigy or the Creative Live 24-bit External USB device? I'm considering this as an option on my small form factor frontend. I see that it has optical SPDIF out which I need but I'm not sure on the AC3 passthrough support in Linux of these devices. I'd like to do this to remove the full height PCI audio card I have in the SFF case in order to make room for an AGP video card which that card blocks. Thanks, Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Can an iTunes TV download play on MythTV?
Matthew K. Lee wrote: Hello all, I've downloaded an episode of The Office from iTunes, and I'm trying to play it under MythTV. Unfortunately, it does not work. Same goes for mplayer. Do I need a codec or something? Or is it simply not possible to play a download from iTunes under linux/MythTV? Not that I'm aware of. Like audio downloaded from iTunes it is protected and can't be played in anything but an Apple product. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system
Nathan A. Smith wrote: Hi, I have the following for my system... AMD 1800+ 756 Megs Memory 120 Gig harddrive space wireless nic PVR-500 I can get mythtv running fine, but after some random amount of time I will have the system reboot. I have seen very little in the logs, what I have seen I posted below. I have noticed that my cpu usage is at 30% -- with no recording going on! So can anyone help a poor soul out? Nasa PS: logs look a little different when It's rebooted versus when I cold boot it. I posted the info for when it cold boots (as I have already read that is necessary). Applications don't cause spontaneous reboots. Bad drivers, hardware, memory, etc. do. Look in your /var/log/messages when it happens and see what kind of kernel oops happened or, if the logs don't reveal anything, start pulling individual pieces of hardware out and seeing if the reboots stop. If you say it happens when nothing is happening on the box, I would guess a driver/hardware issue. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system
Nathan A. Smith wrote: On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 09:10 -0500, Dewey Smolka wrote: Not looking at your logs, just from past experience... Anytime I have behavior like you've described, it was either due to a poor power supply or an IRQ conflict. Have a look also at your CPU fan -- if it's not properly fixed to the chip that can cause overheating and automatic shutdown/reboot. Thanks for the hint, but I am sure overheating of the cpu isn't the issue. I can run the box for days (I have) and not have it reboot. It only happens when I try running TV... Heat can very much be an issue. The CPU and GPU will both fire up more heat when in use watching or recording TV. Have you tried running the system with the case open to relieve temperature and see if that helps? I had a similar issue with one of my systems that was solved by reseating the CPU fan on the CPU using some antec thermal paste and I've never had a problem since. It would only happen when I watched TV Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system
I should know better... I took the cover off and it's ran stable for the last hour and a half... (didn't last that long before). I'd look into either some thermal compound for your CPU heatsink or adding a large but quiet case fan to your system. The thermal paste makes a huge difference in my CPU temperature and fixed this issue for me. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] How to minimize CPU usage
Jerry Rubinow wrote: I'm running myth with separate front/back end computers. The frontend is a 2.8GHz P4 with 512MB ram, trying to display 720p HD, but I'm maxing out the CPU - myth ~65+%, X around 30+%. The video is at times choppy when there's a lot of stuff changing in the frame. What can I do to reduce CPU usage? Here's what I've done so far: -compiled myth with --enable-proc-opt (using SVN from less than a week ago) -using ratpoison for window manager -not using any deinterlacing Note: XvMC is not an option. I'm running FC4. mythfrontend -v playback reports that it's using Xvideo, format I420, using realtime priority, video timing method: RTC (glx vsync not supported in my driver). Then I get a lot of video ahead of audio dropping frames messages, and then a lot of audio ahead of video messages. /proc/meminfo says there's 100MB free while running myth, so I guess it's not swapping. What might be causing the high CPU? I've read about people with 2.4Ghz P4s not having a problem with HD, so it seems like there should be something I can do. Would compiling my own kernel help? With what options? Anything else I can try first? Try using libmpeg2 for your playback. I'd suggest looking into hyperthreading support in your kernel to see if it is enabled. I believe this means using an SMP kernel. I'm not sure if that will make a difference but it might. And lastly, your video card and drivers do help alot. I've struggled with my choice of ATI on one of my frontends and as I'm moving to HD, I'm biting the bullet and spending the $40 on an Nvidia FX card and it will be one of the best $40 I've spent on my system as it means HD playback on my 2.4ghz Celeron with XvMC. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] How to minimize CPU usage
Jerry Rubinow wrote: On 1/28/06, Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Rubinow wrote: I'm running myth with separate front/back end computers. The frontend is a 2.8GHz P4 with 512MB ram, trying to display 720p HD, but I'm maxing out the CPU - myth ~65+%, X around 30+%. The video is at times choppy when there's a lot of stuff changing in the frame. What can I do to reduce CPU usage? Here's what I've done so far: -compiled myth with --enable-proc-opt (using SVN from less than a week ago) -using ratpoison for window manager -not using any deinterlacing Note: XvMC is not an option. I'm running FC4. mythfrontend -v playback reports that it's using Xvideo, format I420, using realtime priority, video timing method: RTC (glx vsync not supported in my driver). Then I get a lot of video ahead of audio dropping frames messages, and then a lot of audio ahead of video messages. /proc/meminfo says there's 100MB free while running myth, so I guess it's not swapping. What might be causing the high CPU? I've read about people with 2.4Ghz P4s not having a problem with HD, so it seems like there should be something I can do. Would compiling my own kernel help? With what options? Anything else I can try first? Try using libmpeg2 for your playback. I'd suggest looking into hyperthreading support in your kernel to see if it is enabled. I believe this means using an SMP kernel. I'm not sure if that will make a difference but it might. And lastly, your video card and drivers do help alot. I've struggled with my choice of ATI on one of my frontends and as I'm moving to HD, I'm biting the bullet and spending the $40 on an Nvidia FX card and it will be one of the best $40 I've spent on my system as it means HD playback on my 2.4ghz Celeron with XvMC. Kevin Sorry, I left out that I'm using libmpeg2. Hyperthreading - hmm, unfortunately I just checked and my CPU doesn't support hyperthreading (it's a 533MHz bus 2.8GHz P4). I tried going the FX 5200 route, only to discover that I I can't achieve the transfer speeds I need over PCI (my motherboard only has two slots, both PCI). 1280x720x(24 or 32) bits, 30 frames a second (or 60, even worse) - PCI's max throughput is 600 to 700 Mbits/sec. I tried XvMC on the 5200 but it was always a bit glitchy. The onboard graphics is AGP, but now instead of being limited by bus speed, it's by CPU speed. Very frustrating, since it's s close to working properly. Hmm. I'm about to buy an FX5500 PCI for use in my frontend. Are you saying that you can't drive HD content to the PCI card because it is PCI, not AGP? I'm using XvMC on my MX440 AGP and it works great with Myth and the 7676 Nvidia drivers on the SVN. You might want to give XvMC with that driver version another shot when 0.19 is released on your FX5200. I've found it to be very solid. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] FX5500 PCI and HDTV
I'm about to get an FX5500 PCI to put in my small form factor frontend. Does anyone know if the 5500 PCI will have any trouble driving the HDTV content down the bus? I plan on using XvMC because the processor is only a 2.4ghz Celeron. Just looking for anyone with experience with the FX PCI cards and HDTV. Thanks, Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Play List?
Jonathan Smith wrote: Is there a way to configure a play list for watching recordings? I record some shows for my kids and would like some shows to play consecutively without having select each show manually? Yes. You add shows to the playlist either individually using the INFO menu on an individual show and selecting Add to Playlist or you can add an entire group (title, category, whatever) by pressing MENU on a group and selecting Add this group to playlist. To playback the playlist, hit MENU and select Playlist options. You can play them in order selected or shuffle play. The playlist will remain until you exit Watch Recordings. I use this extensively with the kids, especially during the upcoming big football game. I'll rack up 3 hours of shows for them then to watch in the basement while the adults cavort upstairs. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system
Chris Ribe wrote: On the topic of thermal goo, how do I figure out if my P4 is running at full speed? I've read that the P4 will automatically slow itself if it gets too hot. Well, how am I to know if this is happening? To avoid being laughed off the list, I won't mention what I am currently using in lieu of thermal goo, but rest assured that it would get me laughed off the list. Let me guess: toothpaste? Actually works good for a period of time but has a tendency to harden. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Sports events, LiveTV or Watch Recording?
Chad wrote: I rarely watch sports events of any type, so I'm a bit clueless in this arena. I know that they can go longer than anticipated, so I would assume people watch LiveTV and then just pause it to give them the ability to skip parts they don't want to watch or commercials or whatever. But then I started thinking and it would seem that Watch Recording might be better, if I want to channel surf a bit during boring parts or whatever, I can just save my position, exit Watch Recordings, then head to LiveTV and watch something else for a bit, then return and miss nothing... I've got it currently setup to Record, and have it End Late by 60 minutes. Should I remove this and just go LiveTV, or should I extend or decrease this time? Any thoughts? I'm specifically talking about the Super Bowl, but figured it might apply to any sport on TV. I never use LiveTV. I always schedule a recording for things I want to watch. You never know what might happen or what you might want to do so why not have it record for those situations. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] getting more pissed off about IVTV
Richard Bronosky wrote: Well, the moderator finally reviewed my 4 emails to the ivtv-users and ivtv-devel lists. And I got a unanimous up yours from him. This is very sad. I guess my last hope is the email I sent Hans. Which is the first in the list below. What more can I do? Get your hardware fixed. People here have identified a path for you as well as confirmation of similar experiences with the card. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] convert a lvm xfs partition to jfs
Dawning Sky wrote: Hi, Since some have mentioned XFS performance degrades when the partition is nearly full, which is the case for my recording partition, I'm thinking of convert it to JFS. I'm just wondering what is the best way to achieve this. The partition is a dedicated recording partition, under LVM on FC3. Move the files to another drive. Reformat. Move them back. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New to mythtv, need help
Bill Baker wrote: During setup, while I was following the instructions on wilsonet.com, I was actually able to get the TV out to work. But ever since I switched the screen over to the TV, I can't get anything but a black screen. Do you still have a monitor connected? As I recall, Linux can only display Xv accelerated video on one head. Perhaps it is displaying on the monitor screen and you don't realize it if you don't still have it hooked up. I believe you can fix this by either removing the monitor configuration from your xorg.conf or swapping them so the TV-out is primary. I don't run dual-headed so I'm not sure exactly how to do this. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Mysql complains at me
Ryan Rawson wrote: So I had to powercycle the computer that runs mythtv. Luckly my filesystem is journaled (ext3 and xfs) so I didn't have to wait long, but wait, surprise for me in my mailbox: Subject: WARNING: mysqlcheck has found corrupt tables The debian packaging of mysql runs check tools on system boot. So apparently my mythtv tables may or may not be corrupt. The rest of the message just indicates that some tables weren't closed correctly, and now people are accessing them. Now I don't really want advice how to fix this, since I don't have the time or interest to fix it (and I'm getting rid of cable anyways). But I'd like to say that as a power-user who just wants to be an end user, this is a very bad experience. The one instruction for fixing it involves like 10 steps. I'm not really interested in this, I'm really interested in watching my TV, not databases. My engineering hat comes on, and says - this is intolerable. Mysql isn't really helping here, and maybe mythtv should at LEAST offer the option of using a database that doesn't need care and feeding after system crashes/hard reboots. My prime vote would be for postgresql. At this point I cannot really recommend mythtv to anything less than a power developer. Fixing corrupt mysql tables is NOT cool and not at all interesting. Do you think this would be any different than a corrupt file or a registry error on Windows Media Center Edition? Neither Linux or Windows are black boxes to be compared with Tivo and ReplayTV. They have underlying operating system components that need care. If you can't learn how to care for it, then maybe it isn't the right choice for you. A simple google for mysql database repair yields many results including the first from the MySQL documentation which explains exactly how to check and repair your database tables. It involves basically one step, running mysqlcheck with a repair command-line option Searching the MythTV archives reveals even more information including an oft-posted script that you can run in cron to check and repair your tables automatically. And finally, if you are running the SVN release of Myth, and to be included in 0.19 in the contrib folder is this very script ready to use. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Potential IPTV additions for Myth
Robert Johnston wrote:
On 1/26/06, Isaac Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 26 January 2006 14:46, Robert Johnston wrote:
On 1/26/06, Dave Bixler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An awesome idea if I must say so -- that is if I completely understand
what you're proposing :).
I'm proposing that, for those people who have an IPTV television
provider.
You're also proposing the same thing you've been proposing for quite a while
now. Seems to be rather less productive than actually working on code.
I realise that, but the extent of my C/C++ knowledge is:
#include iostream.h
void main() {
printf(Hello World/n);
}
I'm looking to see what I can do, trying to learn C and C++ so I can
contribute more to this project, and digging up all the information
that I can, so that someone with greater skill in development can put
something together, rather than waiting for me to learn C (by which
time Myth will be at version 3.93).
You might want to, instead of mailing the list once a month, create an
entry in the Wishlist on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ for the IPTV
support, then make that a Wiki link to a page about the IPTV standards
and include your research. Then it will be accessible to anyone
desiring the information and someone wanting to code it will have it.
Otherwise, as you mail the list, it seems to simply take up bandwidth
for idle musing and wishing for features that generate comments like
show me the code
Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Questions about Upcoming 0.19
Gavin Haslett wrote: I was reading the change list published for the upcoming 0.19 upgrade and a few things occurred to me; 1. For the new LiveTV improvements, will it be possible to set the expiration of LiveTV recordings to, say, 4 hours? I know expiration is currently done on a daily basis, but to be honest I can't think of a single time when I'd want to retain a LiveTV recording for mor than 4 hours or so. Search the archives for the discussion on this. You'll find your answer. 2. Any thoughts on adding a checkbox to use classic mode LiveTV instead of the new version? I did a quick test on the SVN version about two weeks ago, and found that my disk subsystem was thrashing a lot more frequently than with 0.18. I presumed this was due to the LiveTV changes that occurred. Of course, this might just be my second Linux install on the box :) Never. It is a fundamental change in the system and there is no way of supporting the old way. 3. Didn't get a chance to test this... but how well does XvMC work with the OSD and deinterlace? I know this is a bad combination in 0.18, but my video looks SOOO much better with kernel deint turned on, and it's a lot smoother with XvMC, so currently I just live with flickery OSD. I'm running it on one of my frontends. XvMC, ChromaKey OSD, no flicker, color OSD. I haven't had any problems yet. We'll see what happens in a few weeks when the kids watch 3 hours of content while we watch the superbowl upstairs. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] reformating and wondering cvs vs 18.1
Ryan Kremser wrote: I am about to reformat my box and i'm wondering which i should go with. As there hasn't been a new release in a long time should i go with the cvs release or stick with 18.1? Not sure how stable the cvs has been or what changes have been made lately. Just wonding about the status of the project. Thanks for any thoughts. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ 0.19 will be released shortly. I'd wait. That being said, SVN is in a feature freeze right now with changes being pretty much bugfix only. I'd just hold on and wait for the release. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Questions about Upcoming 0.19
Ed Neff wrote: On 1/25/06, *Gavin Haslett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reading the change list published for the upcoming 0.19 upgrade and a few things occurred to me; So, you were ...reading the change list published for the upcoming 0.19 upgrade Would you be so kind as to publish the link to change list. Surely others would like the chance to review the list. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ Click on the 0.19 link Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Questions about Upcoming 0.19
Raphael Pooser wrote: Gavin Haslett wrote: I was reading the change list published for the upcoming 0.19 upgrade and a few things occurred to me; 1. For the new LiveTV improvements, will it be possible to set the expiration of LiveTV recordings to, say, 4 hours? I know expiration is currently done on a daily basis, but to be honest I can't think of a single time when I'd want to retain a LiveTV recording for mor than 4 hours or so. 2. Any thoughts on adding a checkbox to use classic mode LiveTV instead of the new version? I did a quick test on the SVN version about two weeks ago, and found that my disk subsystem was thrashing a lot more frequently than with 0.18. I presumed this was due to the LiveTV changes that occurred. Of course, this might just be my second Linux install on the box :) 3. Didn't get a chance to test this... but how well does XvMC work with the OSD and deinterlace? I know this is a bad combination in 0.18, but my video looks SOOO much better with kernel deint turned on, and it's a lot smoother with XvMC, so currently I just live with flickery OSD. Anyway, just brainfarts... it's too early in the AM (and pre-coffee) for any truly coherent thought :) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users Actually my question is, is mythtv now going to become more hardware intensive, just to do SD? The hard disk thrashing question frightens me, because right now I get by with 512MB of RAM, _no_ swap, and my hard drive set to the lowest performance level/highest acm level so that it is completely silent. I don't want hard drive performance to need to become a factor when watching TV Can anyone shed some light on this? I suppose I can always hold back from upgrading, but it looks like .19.1 may solve a lot of problems, well more like little glitches really. Raphael I have no performance issues running SVN compared to 0.18. In fact, for many things, it is faster. I wouldn't consider one person's experience to be necessarily indicative of the release. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] I'm getting real pissed off about IVTV
Richard Bronosky wrote: Yes, I used an inflammatory subject to get some attention. So before you flame on, find out about RichardBronosky http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=47066#47060. You will find that this is very much out of character for me. I've been trying to post to ivtv-users and ivtv-devel, yet my messages get moderated and never go out to the list. (which this address is subscribed to.) I've been trying to join http://ivtvdriver.org but the link to create an account does not take you to anywhere that you can create an account. I can find no contacts for that site. They've been the victim of recent wikispam so they have disabled new accounts. I believe this was posted to their -dev list recently. My MythTV box is half a PVR-500 away from working and I want to seal this thing up, but IVTV is a dead end for me. Does anyone have any info about the IVTV community they can share? If you are interested in the PVR-500/IVTV situation you can look into it here http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=47185. Thanks for letting me vent, and in advance of the attention I know I will get from this community. I wish IVTV was as pleasant to deal with. Have you tested this card under Windows to be sure that you don't have defective hardware? Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] I'm getting real pissed off about IVTV
Richard Bronosky wrote: I don't own a windows box. Is there a method of testing it in Linux that I have not done? (see my logs link in the situation page below.) Not that I know of short of cat /dev/video1 test.mpg to dump the output of the card to a file. It is impossible to say without having other evidence of the card functioning in another system whether you are experiencing a hardware problem. It is not uncommon from the messages I've read to have a PVR-500 with one tuner defective. I've also seen reports where loading the Windows drivers/firmware on a Windows system resets the card to a working state. I think this is usually indicative of a firmware issue but either way, testing in another OS should give you the confirmation of whether the card works at all. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian directories for SVN releases.
Luke A. Olbrish wrote: I've started to hack up the debian/rules file from 0.18 to allow me to create SVN packages. But then I realized that perhaps people are already maintaining debian directories to build packages from SVN somewhere. So... is anyone doing this currently? If not, maybe we would be allowed to have a debian-mythtv and a debian-mythplugins directory added to the contrib directory under subversion. That way, its not interfering with the dist-agnostic development. I think it would be great if other dists could keep their special patches/build scripts in contrib too (perhaps contrib/dists?). http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Q:_Are_there_any_Debian_.28Sid.29_packages_for_MythTV.3F ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] 0.19 release notes
Jesse Guardiani wrote: Great read. Two questions: 1.) I've read that the OSD flicker and black and white issues have been fixed. Is that true? If so, might deserve a mention. I have a flicker free OSD on XvMC (and color) using the ChromaKey OSD feature but it is not a user-exposed setting as I believe it is still experimental. See http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7569 for details on how to enable it in SVN. I don't know what criteria is needed for this to be considered ready for prime time but certainly it can be used and tested by those wishing to try it. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] 0.19 release notes
Jesse Guardiani wrote: Kevin Kuphal wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: Great read. Two questions: 1.) I've read that the OSD flicker and black and white issues have been fixed. Is that true? If so, might deserve a mention. I have a flicker free OSD on XvMC (and color) using the ChromaKey OSD feature but it is not a user-exposed setting as I believe it is still experimental. See http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7569 for details on how to enable it in SVN. I don't know what criteria is needed for this to be considered ready for prime time but certainly it can be used and tested by those wishing to try it. Hmmm... wonder if that will ship with the release version? The code is in there so it certainly will be available for those that follow the instructions in 7569. Whether this will ship with a nifty check box to enable it is unknown. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Problems with video from Haug. pvr-500
Morten Rønseth wrote: Hi, Jerry Rubinow wrote: On 1/24/06, Nathan A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 21:54 -0700, Nathan A. Smith wrote: Hi, I have setup my myth box (an Athlon 1800+, 756Meg Memory, 100G+ Harddrive space, nic, and the afore mentioned pvr-500). Everything seems to run, but I only get static on Tuner 4 and a very poor picture (if I get one) on tuner 6. I have coax and composite cables attached to the main card, I don't have the daughter card installed. When I look at tuner status it shows: tuner 1: not available tuner 2: not available tuner 4: not recording tuner 6: not recording I followed the instructions off of mythtv.org and placed to tuner devices: /dev/video0 /dev/video1 I also assigned video sources to both tuners (although there wasn't any named tuner0 or tuner1 -- just 2 lines of tuner) and both composite lines (both 0 1). What else should I be trying? Any help would be greatly appreciated Nasa Ok, I figured some log data would be helpful (I hope), so here it is: ivtv: START INIT IVTV ivtv: version 0.4.1 (tagged release) loading ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.12-12mdk 686 gcc-4.0 Have a look here http://dl.ivtvdriver.org/ivtv/stable/ChangeLog;. Last line of 0.4.1 changes. The input numbering has changed from previous versions :-) Had me in a frenzy for a while. Also, the best way to fix this is to dump the capture card settings and start over. I found that if I left them in and just tried to change the mappings, I ended up with extra mappings in the database and had to manually remove the old ones before it would work as Myth would keep picking up on the old entries. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Where's the playback bottleneck?
Jerry Rubinow wrote: On 1/24/06, Robert Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, Jerry Rubinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I playback an HD resolution file, I get stuttering, pick a codec, any codec. If I play it back with mplayer (-vo xv -vc ffmpeg12), also stuttering. If I play it back with mplayer (-vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc), plays back pretty much ok. In all cases, myth and mplayer, CPU is between 20% and 50% (this is on a combined front/backend, P4 2.8 Pundit, with onboard VGA disabled, using a PCI FX5200). The fact that I can playback the file in mplayer with xvmc, tells me it's not a disk issue, and the fact that mplayer cannot play it back smoothly with xv tells me it's probably not a myth issue. Is it a bandwidth problem in the video card or the bus? Some BIOS setting incorrect? Does anyone have any suggestions for how to narrow it down and tell for sure where the problem might be? Is anyone using an original (sis-based) Pundit for HD playback successfully? If you can play back using mplayer (and XvMC), it means you can enable XvMC in Myth and have smooth HDTV playback. -- Robert Anaerin Johnston Theoretically, yes, but I've tried many different combinations of options (vsync, vblank, audio buffering, etc) and it's just not quite good enough for useability. Sometimes I get a lockup when starting to play, sometimes it gets a stutter, sometimes it gets out of sync with sound. Nothing consistent, but perhaps indicative of getting near the same bandwidth limit I'm hitting consistently without xvmc. What video card and driver version? I have trouble with anything other than Nvidia 7676 Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New to mythtv, need help
Bill Baker wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 23:04 -0500, Tim wrote: 1) no. your tv has no idea what channel your mythtv tuner is on. your tv has no info on the sound of your recordings. you can send the sound from your mythtv box to your tv speakers, but you will need a sound card (pvr-350 may export sound). Do you know how I can send the sound from my mythtv box to my TV speakers? Run the line out of your soundcard to the audio inputs on your TV 2) no. it sounds like a setup/channel tuning issue. Do you/anyone else have any idea on how to correct this? Any further information you need from me? Make sure your tuner hardware is working *outside* of MythTV before attempting any operations inside Myth. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New to mythtv, need help
Bill Baker wrote: 2) no. it sounds like a setup/channel tuning issue. Do you/anyone else have any idea on how to correct this? Any further information you need from me? Make sure your tuner hardware is working *outside* of MythTV before attempting any operations inside Myth. About the only thing I could think to try was xawtv, and it didn't work with that, either. You should head over to the IVTV mailing list/forums/wiki and research your problems getting your PVR-350 tuner working. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New to mythtv, need help
Bill Baker wrote: On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 23:50 -0500, Tim wrote: I don't have any audio inputs on my TV. The only way I can connect the TV card is through an RF converter. buy an rf converter? takes rca input and outputs rf signal. it will do both your video and audio. I have an RF converter. Is that all I need to make the sound come out of my TV speakers? If so, why would I need a sound card? Something has to *generate* the sound you're sending to your TV. Either your PVR-350 TV-out will do it (I don't have one so I can't confirm if it works this way) or you need a soundcard. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC - Nvidia isssues?
Dan Seddon wrote: Hi This is my first post to the list after getting my system up and running. I have a Mythtv setup which I'm really pleased with it's 95% perfect! However - that remaining 5% is always worth persuing so... I'm using XvMC which means my Athlon XP 1600 trundles away at 15% usage whilst playing DVB-T (standard definition PAL) video. This has 3 issues which reading through the list have been mentioned on and off - but I haven't found all the answers. First off - the menus become monochrome, which isn't a biggy and worth putting up with for the performance gain (but it would be nice to know if this is preventable). Search the archives or http://svn.mythtv.org for ChromaKey OSD. I'm not sure if this was put in before 0.18 or not, but in SVN you can enable a setting in the database to use a 16 color OSD for XvMC use and on mine it works great. Lastly the problem which I count as my final 5% - I have an issue with some programs where the video stutters (the video may stutter in time too, but it's hard to tell when your ears are hurting). It's been a complete bafflement to me as it happens on only some programs (not channels) and non of the configurations I've tried get rid of it (other than diabling XvMC) - playing the same .nuvs with mplayer reveals that the only unique characteristic of these recording seems to be that the audio is at 256 kbits, whereas most of the other recording I have are at 192... I haven't been very scientific in checking it - but it seems to be consistant, having checked a few recordings. It happens to about 1 in 5 recordings, or maybe less, at the moments - but is fustrating as I have to go in to my options and reconfigure everytime I want to watch such a recording. I've only seen this issue posted once by a guy who said he was using the via equivalent of XvMC (I haven't found his post again - as it was a while ago) - which might be important as is implies it isn't a driver problem (I get the same issue when running the frontend on my laptop with a completely different sound card and older Quadro card). Is anyone else familier with this problem? I'm in the UK - where we don't have HDTV yet, so I can't be that my systems overwhelmed by what I'm throwing at it? Are you using OpenGL Vsync? Seems any Nvidia driver above 7676 (which I'm use with great success) has problems with OpenGL Vsync enabled. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV.org Wiki
Jeff Simpson wrote: Is there a place in the wiki where I can describe my setup ? Stef You folks can all add information I can't, from your own personal experience, etc. I have no problem going through articles and updating formating to give a more fluid look to the site. I think he meant like an everyone-makes-a-page-to-describe-their-own-mythbox. Is that an acceptable use? I think it would be neat to see, especially if some of the more creative boxes included photos and writeups, along with part lists, but mythtv.org http://mythtv.org might not be the place for it (unless somebody gives the OK, and I'm all for it) If you click your username after registering on the top bar, you get a user specific page that you can edit. I think this would be a perfect place for describing your own box. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV.org Wiki
Phill Wiggin wrote: If you click your username after registering on the top bar, you get a user specific page that you can edit. I think this would be a perfect place for describing your own box. Kevin I'm something of a novice when using wikis. Is there an easy way to see all the User pages, or does someone need to make a List of Users with profile pages page that each person has to add themselves to? It is under special pages http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Listusers Red linked pages have no content, blue linked pages do Thanks, Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] which sound card to hook into surround system
Dan Gapinski wrote: Hi Kevin, Thanks for this reply - mine is in the courier system now. What distro are you using? Did it take any extra effort for setup? I s'pose I should look this up myself, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm on Redhat 9. Installing the ALSA drivers, etc. was enough for me. Just unmute the IEC channels in alsamixer for the optical out and I was good to go. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Video Stutter Problems
Thomas W. Shelton wrote: Hello, I have scoured the list and the Internet and discovered a lot of good information ... none of which has corrected my problem. I'm running on - Dell 2.4GHz/512M ram - pcHDTV 3000 Card - nVidia GeForce FX 5200 - using NTSC with cable -- no cable box. - Have Video for Linux card specified -- not the pcHDTV(wanted to get the basics working first) using the latest stable branch from SVN compiled with --enable-Xvmc. I have v4l defined in my xorg.conf file. I also have Xvmc defined in the setup. I believe I have also turned off all commercial flagging. (specifics of which settings to check might help). The processor also spikes when I run glxgears ... not sure if that means anything. When I started the image quality was terrible. I have been able to significantly improve the quality but it still stutters. I ran top and both mythbackend and mythfrontend are consuming all available resources when watching TV. I feel like I'm making improvements but have run into a wall. Any thoughts? Are you running with OpenGL Vsync enabled? Also, what version of the Nvidia drivers are you using. I myself have found, and have others, that 7676 seems to work the best of the recent driver releases for XvMC. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Video Stutter Problems
Thomas W. Shelton wrote: Yes ... OpenGL vsync is enabled. nVidia - I just installed in the last couple of days so I pulled the latest from the nVidia website. It appears to be 8178. Are there utilities I can use to make sure OpenGL and Xvmc are installed and operating properly? There are problems with OpenGL Vsync on the newer drivers. Try disabling that and see if that helps or downgrade your drivers to 7676 Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] No sound -- does it matter?
jwg wrote: Hello, A total newbie question. I'm unable to get my PC sound working. Do I really care? I intend to set this box up as a headless MythTV box, i.e. no monitor, keyboard or mouse, running Fedora Core 4, with PVR 350, located with our entertainment stack, and manage it with a combination of the IR remote control and web interface. It will drive the family TV through the PVR 350 outputs. So do I really care that the PC sound doesn't work? Can't I just ignore this and forge ahead? On a headless backend with a PVR-350, it shouldn't matter. Proceed :) Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Importing recordings after losing entire database and reinstalling
David Bennett wrote: Well, during my computer upgrade I manage to fry my hard drive (not the video drive, but the Linux Root) I have lost everything on it and am left with my /video partition. I have tried to find some answers on how to import this video back into my new mythtv setup, but only come up with importing .avi's etc. I am guessing that I have lost the show information etc. But is there a script or a method for importing these .nuv files back into mythtv so I can watch them from the watch recordings? I don't suppose any of the program information is stored in the .nuv files? (didn't think so!) Run the myth.rebuilddatabase.pl script in the contrib folder. It will prompt you for what it cannot determine on it's own. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Scheduler Not Resolving Conflict
Derek Battams wrote: The scheduler has marked Letterman in conflict for tonight, even though it could resolve the conflict by choosing a later showing of Colbert. If I add a manual override and force the later showing of Colbert to record then the conflict resolves itself. Why doesn't the scheduler fix the conflict itself? Judging from what I see, the scheduler should have recorded the 2am Colbert on Tuner 2 to allow Letterman to record at 11:35pm. Bruce will probably chime in with a detailed and spot on analysis but my quick glance leads me to believe that it did not bump Colbert because it is a higher priority than Letterman. There is a checkbox in the setup for rescheduling higher priority items which I believe would allow the scheduler to resolve this automatically. It is not enabled by default because it is assumed that you want higher priority items to win over lower priority and record sooner even if there is a later showing. Imagine if Fox was running 24 again on Monday before the next new episodes (like Lost does) and it bumped 24 on Sunday to recording something else knowing that it could record later and left you screaming at your friends at work on Monday to quit talking about the show because your PVR decided not to record it when it aired... If you enable the checkbox, it will resolve the conflict but understand the possible consequences. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Playing HD - CPU is 50% Mythfrontend and 50% X
Adam Propeck wrote: This is kinda a continuation of my previous rants with my Sempron 3100+ CPU. I'm using an ATI FireGL X1-128 GPU, and I do not believe that I have Option Render 1. I'm hoping that's because it's Nvidia only. Would that do anything with an ATI card? I hate to put more salt in your wound, but I'm treading lightly into the HDTV world and last night I got my lowly Athlon 1800 with GeForce MX 440 playing back 1080i content using XvMC (accelerated playback). ATI is the devil :) Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Lost sound on EPIA SP -- how to diagnose?
Ole Sandum wrote:
Hello everybody,
It seems everyone else's problems here are far more exotic, but I am out
of things to try and going desperate. So here goes:
Just to try it out, I built a pilot FE/BE combo with FC4 on a VIA EPIA
SP8000 a couple of months ago. It was running nicely, but was begging
for faster hardware and more storage. So over christmas, I got myself a
nice Athlon 64-based box full of slots and drives to put the BE on. Hit
a couple of bumps on the way, but has it running nicely now using the
pure 64-bit packages from atrpms-testing, mythfilling program guides
and recording everything in sight. Sweet. Thank you Axel, thank you
Jarod, and thank you everone else contributing.
Now to the problem: somewhere along the way I lost the sound on the EPIA
and I can't get it back. It's just plain analog stereo out to the TV
set, so nothing fancy, but I don't know how to diagnose it. I've tried
un-/reinstall the alsa-{drivers,lib,utils} packages, skimming log files
for messages, but everything seems normal. Except the output remains
silent. I suppose this happened as a result of updating packages, but
since the original installaion was done months ago, I don't have a
precise recollection of what was installed/updated when.
So please, any hints for places to look, stuff to read, or things to try
out will be most welcome.
I hate to point out the obvious, but did you run alsa-mixer and unmute
things?
Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] playslist for recorded tv?
Matt Price wrote: in the watch recordings menu, it's possible to select a recorded program, push the right button, and then select add to playlist. does anyone know a) what this playlist is? -- I've never seen it actually activated. It is what it says, a playlist of recordings. You can activate it by pressing MENU and the Playlist Options to get options for playing as well as other manipulations of the list b) whether there's some way to manipulate the playlist more directly (e.g. change the order in which shows are viewed, etc No c) escape into the playlist while viewing, etc... I'm not sure what this means, perhaps if you could clarify The playlist would be very useful for me as my kids watch shows that are 12-19 minutes long -- I'dl ike to set them up with an hour of TV in such a way that I don't have to run upstairs to the TV every 10 minutes. However, I haven't been able to use the playlist in a useful way at all. And while the docs talk about playlists for mythmusic, I don't see any such discussion for straight mythtv. I use this just for that all the time. Add each item to the playlist in the order you want, then press MENU to start it. It even has a shuffle mode if you want. I expect to make good use of this during the superbowl where we watch the game upstairs and I rack up 4 hours worth of shows for the kids downstairs. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] mythvideo plugin on xbox - controls don't work
Keith Hanlan wrote: Thanks for your quick reply Kevin. On Sat, 14 Jan 2006, Kevin Kuphal wrote: Keith Hanlan wrote: Can somebody suggest a course of action? It has nothing to do with mythvideo. There were two problems noted; one of them is mplayer/xbox/lirc but the other is mythvideo. Specifically, I couldn't get mythvideo's internal playback to work. Mythvideo is rather short on documentation but I believe I'm supposed to be able to configure it to use mythfrontend's internal playback. When I do that, I get no response. Did you use internal or Internal. The latter is correct. You need to get your LIRC support working in mplayer. I don't run an xbox so I can't say for sure what you need to do other than it really has nothing to do with Myth. I'm sure there is plenty of information online in the form of howto documents for mplayer and LIRC. I've looked. I did my research before the original posting. I saw lots of issues, but none that looked like mine. In my case, each component seems to work properly. I know that lirc is working for me since I use it successfully with mythtv. I know that mplayer is trying to use lirc since it logs the fact: Setting up LIRC support... Having LIRC set up for mythtv does not mean that mplayer LIRC support is configured properly. Get LIRC support working in mplayer outside of Myth and it will work when launched from Myth Actually, I know that mplayer is using lirc because when I press the arrow buttons, I see the X cursor appear and move. That suggests that mplayer using lirc incorrectly. However, I can't figure out how. I don't see how. That probably means that something is receiving those commands and moving the mouse. Mplayer should respond by skipping forward and back or do whatever you have the left/right buttons programmed to do in mplayer, not move the X cursor. I assumed that lirc receives the keypress events, translates them to some sort of command and passes them to mplayer. So, why would it translate them to the *wrong* events when it sends the commands to mplayer as opposed to mythtv? No, LIRC receives IR button presses and changes them into mplayer functions based on the configuration you specify in your ~/.lircrc file. For example, mine has stuff like this: begin prog = mplayer button = Pause config = pause end begin prog = mplayer button = Play config = pause end Which maps my remote Pause and Play buttons to the mplayer pause command which pauses/unpauses the playback. Do you have similar information in your ~/.lircrc file? Kevin Still soliciting suggestions. Thanks, Keith Hanlan Ottawa, Canada ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
John Andersen wrote: On 1/13/06, Steve Adeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing channel' would be useful for many people. Chris Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. -- Steve Just more crap to back up, requiring larger backup devices, and wade thru while looking for something. There is no defensible reason to fill a disk with trash just because you can delete it later when you need room. Some times people want room for other short term projects without having to hunt up all their ring buffers and delete them. I would have though that it was becoming obvious by following a few of these threads that this is a very unpopular feature. Whats wrong with switch to delete after channel change? Perhaps nothing, but then, no one has submitted such a patch. I would venture that most working on this project do not use their myth boxes or specifically, their media partitions, for anything other than Myth so the complaints of filling the disk and/or space consumption are irrelevant. MythTV does a perfectly good job of managing that disk, freeing space when needed, and it even has settings for you to use that will reserve disk space and never touch it if you do happen to need it for other projects. For all the complaints prior to this change about why Myth can't save an in progress recording, when the solution is implemented, it simply garners more complaints which I can only imagine frustrates those who spent their time working on this at the request of users who asked for it. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: Theres no need for it, all those little files can be hidden from view by default and get deleted when room is needed automatically. I stil would like to be able to use df to find out how much space I have left on the disk. This always makes me ask...why? With your auto-expiration options set (unless you never expire anything), Myth will perfectly manage your space to make sure it removes old shows to make room for new. LiveTV will be expired before anything else so it is irrelevant when calculating space as it will be automatically removed when needed. I'd spend a little more time configuring your expiration rules to match your viewing behavior and a little less time worrying about the physical disk space because the system is designed to manage that for you. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Wireless Keyboards Learning Remotes, Just don't get it!
Robert Tsai wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 08:45:50AM -0600, Ramzy Darwish wrote: If someone could either tell me, or point me in the right direction to the actual process of finding the keyboard codes or whatever I need to proceed, it would be greatly appreciatd. Again, I have searched and have found info so close to what I need, but not quite there, that I may just be using the wrong search terms. If all you want to do is just teach your remote your keyboard keystrokes, you should be able to just do it in the usual way (e.g., point your keyboard at your remote while it is in learning mode). If you go the JP1 route, I found everything I needed for my remote (Radio Shack 15-2116) and keyboard (Airboard) at http://www.hifi-remote.com/ofa/ and the JP1 links from that page. Learning mode for most remotes usually lacks enough memory to store all the keys. JP1 programming is better as it does not consume this memory. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: Dag Nygren wrote: I do feel that an option 'Delete LiveTV Recordings when changing channel' would be useful for many people. Yep, I already suggested changing the resolution of the setting Keep LiveTVthis long to hours instead of days, but there were no comments on that. I also tried to ask what the point was keeping the old LiveTV recordings around just in case I am missing some nice feature here, but was also there greeted with silence Does this silence include the 6 posts from Isaac alone on this thread you started? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/167388?167388 I still cannot find an answer to the question: What are the features we gain here? not even rereading those answers three times. Here's one. You're surfing, you watch a show, catch the last 5 minutes. The show changes to a movie, you watch 2/3 of the movie and fall asleep because you were so tired from working your day job. You wake up, groggy, exit LiveTV, go to bed. You wake up and wish man, I would love to watch the end of that movie I missed. BAM There it is, in the saved LiveTV buffer waiting for you to move it to another recording group for safe keeping. Is that enough of a reason for you? Fact is, the product is designed to be used as a dedicated PVR. If you are choosing to use your disk space for other things, then that's fine, but it is unlikely that feature creep will occur enhancing just your ability to do that. Myth already has settings for reserving X amount of disk space which should be enough to give you a comfort zone for your other activities on the partition. While you might not think one more checkbox or a few lines of code matter, each one adds a tiny bit to the clutter and complexity of the system and sometimes, it is better to leave it out when already existing features can meet the same need. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Dag Nygren wrote: Dag, The best way to get *around* this issue is to have a dedicated partition for the myth recordings. That way, the old livetv files will be deleted much faster. You can keep your programs, archives, dvds, movies, downloads, torrents, etc on a separate partition(s). AFAIK, you can set the directory paths in the myth setup. Its little pain in the behind to setup separate partition, but atleast you will not boil your blood everytime you see gigabytes of livetv buffer sitting around on your precious disk space. Thanks for the tip, but this just doesn't work. The main disk space is needed by two things: MythTV and ie. a downloaded stream from my Digital video camera. The problem is that MythTV should be given as much as possible when it is not needed by the digicam, but when I need the space I need it. Putting these on different partitions will not share the space available. Myth will expire programs as you fill the disk regardless of the source. Set your autoexpire check time low and I don't believe you could fill the disk fast enough to beat the expiration. All you're really arguing about is your desire to expire things yourself which is just silly. Myth will do it for you. Let it. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
Mudit Wahal wrote: The koolaid is too srong here and if you are not drinking the same koolaid, you are ostracised. I just use myth as a DVR and I like the EPG. My linuxbox records the shows, commercial cuts and does mpeg2 to mpeg4 via mencoder. My headless box sits in garage. I'm streaming the record shows to a network dvd player (IOData LinkPlayer2) using UPnP wizd server which runs on the linux box. If I say anything more about my setup, the koolaid gang will come after me and try to punish me for not using a *proper mythfrontend* for viewing my myth recorded shows :-) No, but you might get snapped at for fanning the flames. In fact, I think you would find quite the opposite. Everyone here is very much involved in how to make their boxes better. I myself am streaming my music using UPnP to a HomePod music player in my living room. Myth doesn't always fit every situation but nor should it be crammed into every. Dan has found a way to meet his needs as have you, but you'll note both have also been done without adding excess checkboxes and infrequently used features to the product. I think you would also find a great deal of interest if someone were to code a UPnP extension to Myth (which I believe is what the MFD/MFE part of the codebases are destined for). There is a right way and a wrong way to participate with this project. Unfortunately, too many people think they have the best idea since sliced bread or that just one more option won't hurt when in reality, it has all been seen before and there has already been work done to reduce the confusion of options rather than increase them. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Live TV recording as if it was a scheduled recording
BP wrote: Kevin Kuphal wrote: This always makes me ask...why? With your auto-expiration options set (unless you never expire anything), Myth will perfectly manage your space to make sure it removes old shows to make room for new. LiveTV will be expired before anything else so it is irrelevant when calculating space as it will be automatically removed when needed. I'd spend a little more time configuring your expiration rules to match your viewing behavior and a little less time worrying about the physical disk space because the system is designed to manage that for you. Kevin I keep asking why you can not understand that some people prefer to manage their own disk space. I do not want a computer to ever decide to automatically delete something. If I have it recorded and saved, it is because I want to watch it. Then don't set it for autoexpire and the only thing that will be autoexpired will be LiveTV recordings. It still works in this manner. Someone did post the sql commands to mark all current recordings to not expire. I just still feel much safer knowing that autoexpire will never run. I do not trust a computer to only delete what it should. Mistakes happen when scheduling, etc. Myth will only autoexpire what you tell it to. I would have much preferred that live tv recordings be flagged as such. If the user pressed the record button, the flag would be removed. There could then be a different clean up thread to remove live tv buffers independent of autoexpire. Perhaps as simply as when live tv is exited and when the backend starts. It all depends on your usage, I've already posted a scenario where someone would very much want the LiveTV buffer to stay around after exiting. You're suggesting introducing an entirely new housekeeping function that is already pretty well covered by autoexpire. I fully understand that this is working as those that contribute code want. I can accept that. I am just sick and tired of the constant replies implying that those of us that do not like this functionality need to get a clue. Many of us just have different opinions and usage preferences. I have yet to see a usage preference that cannot be met by the current code apart from someone's insistance on managing things outside the system when the internal management does it just as well. But then we're all beating a dead horse here because the lead developer has explained that in no uncertain terms will the request to expire recordings instantly be implemented. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Wireless Keyboards Learning Remotes, Just don't get it! (Still confused)
Ramzy Darwish wrote: Thank you all so much for your honesty and help, but I am still a little confused. I have read my remote's manual and know how to teach it keys; my problem is that I don't know how to get the correct values to enter in as the keyboard codes. FOr sure, my remote is not one of the fancy learning remotes that you can just point the other remote at and have it learn the command/keycode, and I know that I have to enter each key manually. But I don't know what to enter in as the command/keycode. So, I can put it in 'learn key mode', tell it I want it to learn the 'left arrow command', but then what do I put in as the command? It cannot 'listen' for a command from another remote or keyboard (at least the manual doesn't tell me how) Am I misunderstanding that my remote (URC-6131) can actually mimic or work with an IR keyboard? I have that remote, or should say, had. It is not learning, there are no commands you can put into it to make it work as an IR keyboard. It has the blank block inside the battery compartment for a JP1 connector but it is not installed and it would take dismantling the remote to add it. I'm using a URC-8910 which has both learning modes as well as the JP1 connector for programming via software. I would suggest either using LIRC to work with your remote or changing remotes. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] mythvideo plugin on xbox - controls don't work
Keith Hanlan wrote: Can somebody suggest a course of action? It has nothing to do with mythvideo. You need to get your LIRC support working in mplayer. I don't run an xbox so I can't say for sure what you need to do other than it really has nothing to do with Myth. I'm sure there is plenty of information online in the form of howto documents for mplayer and LIRC. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PPC and MythMusic FIX (at least for mp3s)
Ryan Oltman wrote: My first contribution back to the opensource community (after using Linux for the last 11 years its about damn time). Okay after being bugged by mythmusic on not working on a ppc I decided to sit down and figure this thing out. Especially since there appears to be 2 other people in the world that would love to have a mac-mini frontend to mythtv using linux. If you don't know the mac mini works fine with mplayer and the 1.2GHz is close to playing 1920x1080 xvid files without too many frame drops, but it would produce noise under mythmusic. The problem is that libmad returns little endian audio and the powerpc is a big endian machine. Simply compile minimad.c that comes with libmad on a ppc machine and see that it doesn't work. You get noise. I'm using 0.18.1 from gentoo on the mac mini. The mythmusic plugin code I used for my fixes came from: http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ I used the release-0-18-fixes to compile only mythmusic. I know vorbis file have the same problem, but I don't use them (I did test one), so I figure there is a similar fix that can be done in that file. The fix: You should submit this patch to http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac. It would be most likely to be evaluated if you could regenerate it against SVN. Also, a unified diff (diff -u or svn diff) is needed. Thanks, Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Myth Remote Control
Mark Lehrer wrote: Hello there. I am currently using a full sized IR keyboard as my remote, but I would like to find something a little smaller that my wife can use to navigate. What are the most common solutions for MythTV? Buy a one-for-all remote with a JP1 connector and a JP1 interface cable. There are various how-tos on JP1 sites related to this but you basically use that cable to connect to your Windows PC and use software to program your IR remote to send the same IR commands as your IR keyboard. While most Myth users go through LIRC with an IR remote, I have found that programming my IR remote to emulate my IR keyboard allows me to use a standard PS/2 connector and the IR receiver to bypass LIRC. This has resulted, for me, in finer control over keys as well as faster response times from the remote. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Myth Remote Control
William Powers wrote: What IR keyboard are you using? I've been using the Chicony KB-9820, but they are getting hard to find... I think it is the Lite-On one but it's rebranded under some other name. I believe from the JP1 sites it is an Airboard in the guts. I don't think you can get it anymore either. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Myth Remote Control
James Oltman wrote: How have you mapped your xine or mplayer to your remote using your keyboard? I would LOVE to do this but would like to know how you mapped certain buttons. Thanks! What I've done is made sure that the xine and mplayer keyboard commands match the keyboard commands I have programmed (like P = Play, etc). I believe they both have files you can configure to change behavior. Mostly they all seem to work out ok for basic functions (ESC = exit, P = PLAY, etc.) and I think I had to use one extra button on my remote (SPACE = STOP) to get mplayer working right because the P = PAUSE command that the man page said would work, didn't so I needed SPACE. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] cut commercials only, no transcoding
Robin Gilks wrote: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It's currently a very active bit of development... lossless MPEG2 cutting. It's not in the releases, and the development has bugs that are being squashed. Not ready for prime time yet as I understand it. -Cory Being totally ignorant, and one who badly wants this feature for MPEG4-MPEG4, I'll ask some simple questions (just in case I try to learn enough about myth and MPEG4 to make some haphazard attempt to work on the MPEG4 case): 1) Are there any plans for this feature for MPEG4-MPEG4? 2) Is this a hard thing to do? 3) Where is a good place to learn about all of this (I checked the development list and the documentation at the SVN site, but it was quite incomplete and over my head)? Thanks, Steve Silly question, but what is your source of mpeg4 stuff? I've not seen any capture cards that output anything other that mpeg2. Is it some dodgy US cable thing? MythTV can capture in RTJPEG or MPEG-4 using software capture cards like the Hauppauge WinTV series Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] mythbackend not starting on slave (I know...)
Steve Malenfant wrote: I couldn't find the answer anywhere... service mythbackend start don't work on my salve... It's not an IP configuration issue... mythfrontend works as root and mythtv user on the slave. Also when I execute manually everything works fine. So if do /usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --pidfile /var/run/mythbackend.pid the server starts just fine (minus the problem with the channel here): Running as a slave backend. 2006-01-13 20:48:46.281 New DB connection, total: 2 2006-01-13 20:48:46.288 mythbackend: MythBackend started as a slave backend 2006-01-13 20:48:46.326 DVB#0 DVB SI Table Parser Started 2006-01-13 20:48:46.361 DVB#0 Using DVB card 0, with frontend Broadcom BCM3510 VSB/QAM frontend. 2006-01-13 20:48:46.368 DVB#0 ERROR - Unable to find channel in database. 2006-01-13 20:48:46.370 DVB#0 ERROR - Failed to get channel options for channel 5-1. 2006-01-13 20:48:46.374 Closing DVB channel 2006-01-13 20:48:47.357 mythbackend version: 0.18.2.20051227-1 www.mythtv.org 2006-01-13 20:48:47.362 Enabled verbose msgs : important general 2006-01-13 20:48:48.379 Connecting to master server: 192.168.11.24:6543 2006-01-13 20:48:48.397 Connected successfully And when I use service mythbackend start : 2006-01-13 20:44:16.104 New DB connection, total: 1 2006-01-13 20:44:16.112 Unable to connect to database! 2006-01-13 20:44:16.114 Driver error was [1/2002]: QMYSQL3: Unable to connect Database error was: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) I'm not sure what's the difference but it doesn't work using the service with remote database. I'm guessing when you run it manually you do not run it as root? It sounds like you have not followed all the steps in the documentation at mythtv.org for running a slave backend, specifically about the database. Remember: You need to have your slave backend connect to the *same* database your master backend connects to. It is quite common for the distribution of linux chosen to run mythtv will install a database server on each installation so it is also quite common for people running slave backends to end up connecting their slave to the local database rather than the master. Read the documentation careful and check your config. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] mythbackend not starting on slave (I know...)
Bruce Markey wrote: Well, the problem is clearly that it is finding a valid mysql.txt when start from the commandline but not when started in the init script. This is most likely the $HOME environment variable and not a lack of reading mythtv docs ;-). Root's $HOME may be /root when logged in but may be / during init. You could export $HOME=/root in the script or make a synlink for /mysql.txt or copy mysql.txt to / or whatever. Perhaps. I've been thinking at times it might be nice to have a line in the log for the hostname that hosts the DB that the backend connected to in order to be able to easily determine which machine. It's hard to say if he is connecting to the master DB or a local DB he has configured tuners on mistakenly. Or perhaps I could be totally mistaken and not understand the logs in detail :) Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Recommend an HD/SD tuner card?
Dorsey Graphics wrote: Can you recommend a PCI card that works well for HD, also has an option for SD (for use until I purchase the new TV), and that will not break the bank? Compatibility with BeyondTV and MythTV is important, as I am not sure which I will use yet. What is your HD source? Over-the-air? Cable? Satellite? Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MPEG4-MPEG4 transcode? (slightly OT)
Steve Briggs wrote: Preston Crow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people, especially the developers, use the PVR-xxx cards that have built-in MPEG-2 encoders, so I wouldn't expect to see much work going in to improving transcoding with a MPEG-4 source. Which has always puzzled me. Given the advantages of MPEG4 and the fact that a software encoder card + fast CPU costs much less than a hardware encoder card + slow CPU, why would one pay for the hardware encoder? I can see where it's a stand-alone front end and a noisy CPU fan is an issue, but in general? Compared to my software cards, the hardware cards capture in much higher quality. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Name that tuner!
Steve Daniels wrote: Ok, I've aquired a tuner and haven't a clue what kind it is, all I have is the board. It's in a machine at the moment so can't see it to tell you any codes written on it but it's got the following I/O from top to bottom. It's a Hauppauge Analogue Card, and probably at least 1 year old. FM, TV, Line Out, Vid, Line in, IR Now name that tuner! If you want me to run any commands to help find out what tuner it is, or need to me find any numbers written on the board feel free to ask and I'll get back to you. I'm wondering whether to leave this card in or swap it out for another Nova-T i've got. I wanted to leave it in so I could convert any VHS tapes over to myth as and when requested by the family.. Or it might just be better to stick it into my desktop machine and create the divx's manually.. hmmm what does the output of lspci -v say? Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Recommend an HD/SD tuner card?
Dorsey Graphics wrote: On Jan 12, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Steve Adeff wrote: On Thursday 12 January 2006 14:04, Dorsey Graphics wrote: That's the issue - it may be Comcast, it may be DirecTC. Probably not OTA, but I don't really know yet. Comcast Possible HD cable box firewire for HD capture 5C could prevent lots of channels from being captured Is the 5C a digital cable box model? I love the idea of firewire out - I have a Mac (imagine the possibilities!!!) 5C is the encryption put on non-broadcast cable channels by cable operators. This prevents output to the firewire ports. Possible QAM for HD tuner limitied channels if it works DirecTV No HD into Myth Interesting. So I guess that DirecTV is no longer an option. Not entirely. I don't know how or if it is supported but a quick google for DirecTV firewire will reveal an outfit that will sell you a firewire enabled DTV receiver. OTA singal reception problems only OTA channels Is there a card that will work well for all? no card that I know of does HD and SD together well. If you want to do QAM/ATSC, then get a cheap HD tuner card, ~$100 and if you want to do SD get a PVR-150, ~$70 or PVR-500 ~$150. What is QAM/ATSC? I am not familiar with these terms? Wikipedia sais QAM is Quadrature amplitude modulation. I have no idea what that is. Also, ATSC is NTSC for hi-def? Thank you so much! QAM is the modulation/encoding used by cable companies on their channels. IE: a QAM capable HDTV tuner can receive channels over your cable but only channels not encrypted by 5C. ATSC is exactly what you said, the HDTV equivalent of NTSC. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions
Joseph Faisal Nusairat wrote: Thanks. I appreciate it. So this begs the question, what does the 250 have that makes it more special? Who says the 250 is special? It simply is the original and thus has had the best driver support. I have a PVR-150 and PVR-500 in my systems and they work great. With the IVTV 0.4 series, the drivers have very much matured. I think the only thing the 250 has over the 150/500 is VBI and Close Captioning support. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Upgrading mythweb to svn HEAD but not the backend
Darryl Ross wrote: Hey All, I have a three machine mythtv network here: the master backend, a dedicated file/database/web server and a combined frontend/backend. The backends are using the 18.1 RPMS from atrpms. I have just tried to update my mythweb to the current version that's in SVN (rev 8554) but when I try to load the pages up I'm getting: User Notice at /home/httpd/mythweb/includes/mythbackend.php, line 163: Incompatible protocol version (mythweb=22, backend=15) (Assuming the error message is accurate) is there a way to get mythweb to use an older version of the protocol? If not, what revision will work? I'd prefer not to update the backends at the moment, as they are working fine and I don't have a lot of time to try to fix things if they break... Clients (frontends and mythweb) need to match revisions with the servers (backends) they talk to. Protocol numbers are changed for a reson and they are not compatible across revisions. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Ordering of mysql and mythbackend shutdowns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 05:46:17 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Pinkham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've just noticed that, when rebooting the master backend machine, mysql gets shut down before the backend (because, of course, mysql sorts before mythbackend and typically they're both started/stopped w/the same two-digit priority in the rc scripts). This causes the backend (if it's logging verbosely, which mine is) to emit a bunch of This is a distribution issue, the distributor is the one who specified the startup/shutdown sequence, it's not in the Myth source code. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that this was in Myth's code. I just wanted to figure out whether Myth did any sort of DB-related cleanup on termination, and thus whether to ensure that the DB was, in fact, available to it before the backend got signalled. If it doesn't catch the signal (or doesn't do any DB-related cleanup if it -does- catch the signal), than it doesn't matter. Otherwise, I'll rearrange my script ordering slightly (and such a dependency should get documented somewhere). Common sense says that all applications accessing the DB should be shut down cleanly before shutting down the database. Kevin Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Upgrading mythweb to svn HEAD but not the backend
Darryl Ross wrote: Chris Petersen wrote: That's the answer. If you want to use svn, use svn for everything. It is possible to retrieve older revisions out of subversion. That is what I am wanting to do. All I am asking is what subversion revision number was used in the 18.1 release (well, more specifically which revision implements protocol version 15) so that I can check out that revision. I could go through the svn log history, but that is generally very slow. Especially being on the other side of the world from the server. The instructions for checking out the various releases is right on the front page of http://svn.mythtv.org I'm not sure how much easier it could be Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Fwd: Sempron 3100 lag when viewing HD from 6200 STB
Adam Propeck wrote: Here is some more detail. ( Xrog.conf and some hdparm info) I'm wondering if livetv isn't playing well because of the specific firewire port/driver? I'm using the single port that comes with the audigy 2 PCI card I'm using. Also, I guess I was wondering if I need to do anything specific with the fact that I'm using an Nforce 3 motherboard. Any tweaks that are recommended? Thanks, -Adam I think the problem is that fundamentally, the ATI driver does not provide hardware accelerated MPEG-2 playback and your Sempron cannot handle the software decoding without choking. If you had an Nvidia card that supported XvMC you could enable that which would activate the hardware decoding and probably give you the performance you expect. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Fwd: Sempron 3100 lag when viewing HD from 6200 STB
Adam Propeck wrote: Ok, so does anyone have an Nvidia card they'd like to trade for an ATI Fire GL X1 - 128MB? hehe. I can hope. :) have you tried using libmpeg2 playback instead of the regular playback? Sometimes that can help lighten the load a little bit if you are just at the edge. What is your CPU usage like when playing back? Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Watch Videos
David Abrahams wrote: It appears that the Watch Videos feature only looks on the frontend's local filesystem for files, but a record of all the recorded videos is kept in the backend's database, causing it to complain about all the missing videos that were recorded on other machines every time I fire it up. Is this feature only supposed to be used with a network-mounted disk, or... ? The standard practice is to mount shared storage via NFS or SMB from the backend (where all your storage is) to the same mount point on all the frontend systems. Since Myth Video doesn't record, I'm not sure what you're referring to about missing recordings. You should *not* point your Myth Video at your TV recording folder. That is not what it is designed for. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Scan displacement and over/underscan
Does anyone know what the scan displacement values in the Playback setup of MythTV do? Since moving from my BTTV cards to a PVR-150 and PVR-500, I noticed that my recordings have a small (maybe 10-20 pixel) black bar at the bottom of the playback that I'd like to try to fix by moving the image down. I've adjusted the scan displacement and it doesn't seem to have any effect while the overscan does but stretches the image. Anyone know how to move the playback image down? Thanks, Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Fwd: Sempron 3100 lag when viewing HD from 6200 STB
Adam Propeck wrote: I find it frustrating that this is a Linux only issue. If I had trouble playing an 1080i stream on a Windows box with a 3 ghz proc, I'd go crazy. Why is it that Linux has so much trouble with this? I would think that it would be an easy thing like enabling the correct video driver or something. I thought maybe my AGP GART stuff could have been set incorrectly or something. Blame ATI. On Windows you are probably working with accelerated drivers. ATI has no such counterpart for Linux. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Fwd: Sempron 3100 lag when viewing HD from 6200 STB
Steve Adeff wrote: On Monday 09 January 2006 21:06, Kevin Kuphal wrote: Adam Propeck wrote: I find it frustrating that this is a Linux only issue. If I had trouble playing an 1080i stream on a Windows box with a 3 ghz proc, I'd go crazy. Why is it that Linux has so much trouble with this? I would think that it would be an easy thing like enabling the correct video driver or something. I thought maybe my AGP GART stuff could have been set incorrectly or something. Blame ATI. On Windows you are probably working with accelerated drivers. ATI has no such counterpart for Linux. Kevin but apparently I'm using too much CPU with an nvidia card... Nvidia isn't any better unless you're using XvMC. I've got a GeForce 6200 in my windows box (Athlon 1800) and it dies playing a 1080i content clip I have for testing. Play it with the Nvidia Decoder trial from their website, and it is rock solid playback. I'm guessing that no matter what, unless your video card drivers are *really* supplying the accelerated playback, you're always going to suffer until you get excessive CPUs. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] OSD isthmus makeover
gerhard aldorf wrote: Hi The isthmus OSD got a facelift. The main changes are. The pause box is reduced and the editing box extended, new font plus a few other small things here and there. You find it at http://www.aldorf.no/mythtv/ I'm shure it needs some adjustments, so please let me know if something needs adjustments. With Isthmus in SVN, will you be able to generate a diff from the current SVN version and post it at http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac so that it can be incorporated or maybe even, if people like the current OSD, make a second OSD isthmus-mini or something like that. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() --- WTH?
Blammo wrote: This is getting old: 2006-01-08 14:53:20.087 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() 2006-01-08 14:53:21.216 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() 2006-01-08 14:53:21.586 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() 2006-01-08 14:53:21.666 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() 2006-01-08 14:53:29.968 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() 2006-01-08 14:53:30.194 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() 2006-01-08 14:54:08.315 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() 2006-01-08 14:54:49.007 IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() I've read all the threads I can find on this topic, with no good fixes. The only one that seems applicable is the 2M/8M/32M buffer change for HD content. Before I introduce CVS into my otherwise completely stable env, I'd like to make sure there's nothing else I can do. snip what the hell is going on? From everything I can remember about IOBOUND, it means your hardware (probably disk) isn't able to keep up. What filesystem are you using? I'm assuming that CBS is 1080i while the other channels are 720p? I'm guessing also that the commercials are not at 1080i either. Seems to me that indicates strongly that there is something going on in the I/O to disk. Also, are you running real-time commflagging on these recordings? If so, does this behavior change if you do not run that job? I think this thread is the most relevant to your situation: http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/mythtv-dev@mythtv.org/1682169.html and includes suggestions about increasing the buffer size as well as elevator=cfg and the filesystem in question. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Import existing video file?
David Abrahams wrote: I have an existing video recording in a format already supported by MythTV playback. How can I add it to my backend's list of recordings? Run the mythrebuilddatabase.pl script from the contrib folder. YOu can pass it a --ext avi (or anything else) and it will ask you for the title, etc. and import it into the watch recordings. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Playback performance [all platforms]
David Abrahams wrote: I notice that the performance of playback seems to be suboptimal. For example, I captured some HDTV video over firewire using MythTV. When I try to play it back using the frontend, it is totally unwatchable. The action occurs at about half speed because of stuttering and includes frequent pauses of up to a second. I tried tweaking all the obvious settings in the Playback section of the front end's setup screen, to no avail. However, when I use VLC to play the same file, it looks almost perfect, with only barely perceptible jerkiness due, presumably, to the fact that my Mac Mini can't quite keep up with playback. I grepped the MythTV source for CONFIG_DARWIN to find the Darwin-specific playback code, but came up empty. Perhaps we *need* some darwin-specific playback code? And if Darwin-specific playback code turns out to help, doesn't it indicate that the playback code MythTV is using for all other platforms today could be a whole lot more efficient? I believe so. Similar to Linux, software playback is the norm unless other things are used to get hardware acceleration working. On Linux we can use XvMC on some cards to get things to render accelerated in hardware. I would expect that similar features would have to be taken advantage of (which VLC probably already does) to enable the acceleration on the Mac side. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Where to send Feature requests?
Stewart wrote: I have seen a trac list to track bugs, but I have not been able to find anythere to place feature requests, specifically, this is a mythweb feature request. To be honest, there really isn't. There is a page on http://www.mythtv.info for feature requests but it is by no means official because this is a group project. While there are a handful of developers here, most of them spend what time they can on features they support or would like to see enhanced or added. And while not ever user is a coder, the unfortunate reality is that unless your feature request lines up with another developer's, it may never get worked on due to the time limited nature of the work... Just my 2 cents Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] question about RAID
Gavin Haslett wrote: I know you said data protection is not an issue... but believe me when I tell you that it can become an issue rapidly. You can build a significant collection of recordings on any reasonable size media (I have mirrored 160Gb drives myself), and there's no recovery if you lose a single disk. It's not like you can cut the array down to half the array and still get half your data back... you'll lose it all if one of the drives in a RAID 0 fails. RAID 5 and RAID 1/0+1 would at least allow you protection. I've gone round and round with this and I've always come down on the side of...it's only TV. I don't use my Myth as a permanent television archive. I record what I want to watch and remove it. Now I do have a large collection of DVDs encoded to Divx that I would rather not have to re-encode so I simply write the files to data DVDs and keep them as archives. Anything else I can lose and I'd rather have the space than lose some to RAID and have to fight with RAID controllers and the software to get it working. Raw disk just works :) Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] IOBOUND - blocking in ThreadedFileWriter::Write() --- WTH?
Blammo wrote: On 1/8/06, Mudit Wahal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: elevator=cfq didnt help in my setup. I never got around to moving my recordings to jfs file system. So, I'm just using 16MB buffer and seldom had iobound problem. I added another hard drive and formatted it as xfs file system. But the recording is still on ext3. I'm already running JFS, and elevator=deadline, which seemed to have the best overall performance for HD playback during recording. It's been a while since this the thread mentioning buffer sizes was started. Is there any way to modify this outside of a recompile? No. Are you performing comflagging on this recording while recording? Have you tried disabling that to see if it changes anything? Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Sempron 3100 lag when viewing HD from 6200 STB
Adam Propeck wrote: Running: Sempron 3100 512 MB DDR400 ECS Nforce 3 MB ATI FireGL X1 -128 Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Hitachi 8mb cache 7200 RPM 250GB drive. Fedora Core 4 Source: Charter cable via Moto 6200 STB (Firewire) -- The regular channels come thrugh perfectly. When I tune to an HD channel however... I get a TON of lag. I've got Linear filtering on and OPen GL Sync. What could I have setup incorrectly? Define lag Does the recording have issues (if you play it back somewhere else is the same problem exhibited)? This indicates a problem in the writing of the recording to disk. Does this happen on playback of a recorded program? Does this happen only when playing LiveTV? There are alot of possibilities here and more detail would help. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Single Instance Howto?
John Andersen wrote: Is there a way et set mythfrontend to only allow a single instance to be launched on any given machine? Via a comedy of errors I've found on a couple of occasions that more than one instance was running. I wondered where the memory went. Often after a power failure, KDE will try to re-establish the previously running processes, and that, coupled with my auto-start script left two instances running. Change your script not to launch mythfrontend if it is already running Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Single Instance Howto?
Michael T. Dean wrote: Kevin Kuphal wrote: John Andersen wrote: Is there a way et set mythfrontend to only allow a single instance to be launched on any given machine? Via a comedy of errors I've found on a couple of occasions that more than one instance was running. I wondered where the memory went. Often after a power failure, KDE will try to re-establish the previously running processes, and that, coupled with my auto-start script left two instances running. Change your script not to launch mythfrontend if it is already running And tell KDE not to restore sessions. Or don't use KDE :) Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] USB IR receiver of choice
Mike wrote: Apparently I'm the rear end of a donkey. I had a family member order two serial IR receivers from irblaster.info for his new Myth boxes, but neither of the computers have serial ports. (Go figure, it isn't 1992 anymore.) I'd rather not throw more PCI cards in these boxes just to support yesteryear's technology, so are there any users out there that have recommendations for USB IR receivers that are easy to implement with lirc and myth? I like the USB IR receivers from the Streamzap remote. Work great with my universal remote. You can order them without the remote if you email the sales department for a part number (unless they have them on their website separate now). Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Edit Mode overlay menu?
Steve Adeff wrote: On Friday 06 January 2006 02:23, Ross Campbell wrote: On 1/5/06, Steve Adeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a menu for the edit mode such that I don't have to learn all the keys to my remote? I can't find a keymapping for one in the docs You mean other than the docs at /usr/share/doc/mythtv*/keys.txt? http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/keys.txt yes, I don't want to have a keyboard connected, and I don't need to. There are so few options for editing, it would be nice for people who don't want to map lots of keys to their keyboard to have: -Load Commercial Skip List -Clear All Cut Points -Queue For Transcode (which I know is in the regular playback menu) -Jump To Next Commercial Point -Jump To Previous Commercial Point Ugh. I would absolutely *hate* using a remote for editing my cutlists. Shoot me now. Its not bad, I have the arrows for moving around, PageUp/Down are channel up and down. The only things *I'm* missing are the load and clear cutpoints and begin transcode (which is in the regular menu during playback). It would just be nice to have the other options, and whatever future options might become available in a menu. In the couple times I've played with it, moving around with the remote is as fast as the keyboard, I just can't load commercial points. Map them to keys you do have mapped that don't apply to that mode. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] MythMusic AlbumArt
Brad DerManouelian wrote: I was trying to find a script to automatically add album art to my MythMusic directories. I came across the one in this thread: http:// www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/140895 but it only adds art as you RIP a CD. I have way too many albums already ripped so this wasn't going to work for me. There are a number of Linux programs that will download your entire music tree of album art, even some for Windows and put it into the folder appropriate for the Album Art vizualization to use. I'm sure a quick google will reveal them. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Overkill...
CascadeHush wrote: The main reason I continue to use XP on one of my PCs is my Hauppage 150 TV Tuner card, which I use to record TV according to a schedule I have set up. This particular PC is my main file server, as well as being a digital VCR (I don't want to say PVR, because that implies certain types of functionality, most of which I find pretty useless). I'd prefer to switch this machine over to linux, if I can get the same functionality. I've had a look at MythTV, and whilst it's all very impressive, it is overkill for what I want. I just want a way to schedule TV recordings. I don't want a fancy front end, I don't want an electronic program guide... I'm not looking to build a media box. I just want something totally anonymous, that sits on my network and records TV programs to a HD. And then, when I want to watch them, it will be in whatever program, on whatever platform I happen to be using at the time, and when I do, I will open the file directly as I would open any other file. Is there a way to do this with MythTV... or is there another program which will do this under linux? It seems that MythTV has both a back and front end, and perhaps the answer is to just run the back end, but I wonder if this is possible? cat /dev/video0 file.mpg mplayer file.mpg I'm sure you can figure out some scripts to start/stop at the right times. Done. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] How to clean up confused metadata?
John Biundo wrote: Hi all, I just implemented LVM and in the process, relocated my tv recordings directory. I had a few experimental recordings lying around that I didn't care to preserve. So they're gone from disk, but they remain in the database and show up as saved recordings. Trying to delete them through the MythTV interface produces the following error on the backend: ERROR when trying to delete file: /video/1036_2006010322_20060103223000.nuv. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed So is there any safe simple way to get rid of this metadata so these phantom shows don't show up in the list of recorded shows? touch /video/1036_2006010322_20060103223000.nuv Then delete Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] How do I add existing avi files to mythtv's recordings?
Steve Adeff wrote: On Monday 02 January 2006 20:57, Kevin Kuphal wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: How do I add existing avi files to mythtv's recordings? Do I need to transcode into a particular resolution etc? In the contrib folder of the mythtv source is a script named myth.rebuilddatabase.pl that will take an --ext avi command-line option to import AVI files into Watch Recordings. Kevin I made a modified version of this that scrapes tv.com for show information and then adds it to the Watch Recordings list. If this is something that people might want to play with let me know and I'll post it to the list. I've used it for adding a few shows so far and its great, the g/f asked about this cause I refuse to manage MythVideo for episodic stuff I'd love to see this. I have the skeleton of an Import Recordings screen for the frontend but I'm lacking the script that will automate this to the point of making it useful. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] How do I add existing avi files to mythtv's recordings?
Chris Doyle wrote: Steve, This is great! just one small problem. Upon execution, it grabs the show info just fine from TV.com, but the query fails with a message of DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'basename' in 'field list' at /root/tvgrabber-0.5.pl line 571, STDIN line 1. apparently basename is a column in your mythconverg.recorded table, but not mine (latest knoppmyth) Did you add the basename column to your db, or am I just using a different version than you? This is a column in the SVN version of Myth related, I believe, to the file extension changes where MPEG files carry the MPG extension instead of NUV Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] [FM tuner on a pvr350]
Jason wrote: 2nd try. Im sure this has been brought up before, but does anyone know of a way to get the FM tuner to work in mythtv? Ive searched and cant seem to find anything. Assuming you can get it to work *outside* of Myth with other radio applications: http://mythextra.napsi.net/mythFM.html Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] UK DVB Satellite in US
Nathan Ford wrote: I have a quick question for the knowledgable mythtv peoples. Is it possible to recieve UK dvb satellites in the US? I live on the east coast (In the grand sceme of scale, almost as east as you can get in the US). From what i've been able to gather channels like BBC are FTA on dvb sats. It would be cool if I could recieve them. I could most likely get an angle on the sat, but dunno how wide the dispersal is on the transponder. Anyone with more knowledge than me care to enlighten me on the subject? Usually these satellites cover a specific geographic area. If you know the satellite name or service, just google it for a coverage map and you can probably find what you're looking for. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend on windows
Rick van der Mieden wrote: Hi There, I've got a mythfrontend and backend running in the living room connected to the TV, but I'd like to have a frontend running on my laptop, which is running windows xp, to watch livetv. So I installed winmyth with mythtv filters. But I can't get it to work. Connection to my mysql backend is ok, but I get a lot of stupid windows errors if it is starting at all. (I've got the latest .net 1.1 running as well) Is there anyone with experience with running mythfrontend on windows? Is there any other way to get a mythfrontend running (someone tried it with vmware or something?). I know it will work if install a linux besides the windows, but that's not really an option right now. Ever thought of just booting the Knoppix CD which will provide a frontend from the CD (no installation required)? Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Frontend - Backend : Connectivity
R wrote: Will this work? In THIS house, the Backend is connected to Comcast cable. It is also connected to Comcast internet behind a firewall. My relative lives across the street. We could put a Frontend in THAT house behind that firewall. Make the appropriate changes to both the firewalls so that the Frontend and Backend can communicate with eachother. What do you think? Or is it better to just get wireless gear, secure it of course, and forget connectivity over the internet? Our houses are about 100 feet apart. I'd go wireless. Most broadband can't come close to delivering the bandwidth needed to play the recordings. Even 802.11b falters most of the time in the real world. Get a couple 802.11g APs, lock them to G, secure them, and bridge your network. It will probably be the path of least resistance. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Frontend - Backend : Connectivity
Brad DerManouelian wrote: On Jan 2, 2006, at 5:25 PM, R wrote: Will this work? In THIS house, the Backend is connected to Comcast cable. It is also connected to Comcast internet behind a firewall. My relative lives across the street. We could put a Frontend in THAT house behind that firewall. Make the appropriate changes to both the firewalls so that the Frontend and Backend can communicate with eachother. What do you think? Or is it better to just get wireless gear, secure it of course, and forget connectivity over the internet? Our houses are about 100 feet apart. You'll get better speed over wireless. 100 feet should mean little interference. If this is your only need, I recommend getting 802.11a gear. You can get it pretty cheap now, it's fast, and no one seems to think to try to hack on that band. :) Your only issue might be drivers. Whatever you do, don't try and go with internal wireless cards. Use external access points that can bridge (check this before you buy). No drivers, no mess. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] How do I add existing avi files to mythtv's recordings?
William Kenworthy wrote: How do I add existing avi files to mythtv's recordings? Do I need to transcode into a particular resolution etc? In the contrib folder of the mythtv source is a script named myth.rebuilddatabase.pl that will take an --ext avi command-line option to import AVI files into Watch Recordings. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Pvr-500 or Plextor ConvertX, reliability.
Ray wrote: Thanks everyone, that's just the sort of information I needed. I have a pvr-500 and a TB Riviara on order. Just an FYI, I received my PVR-500 yesterday, compiled IVTV 0.4.1 on my Redhat 9 box, dropped it in to replace my BTTV cards on my master backend and it worked perfect with nothing more than a line in modules.conf. Just make sure to put the right firmware files in the right places with the right names (refer to the IVTV wiki) and you should be good to go. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] PATCH: New weather type
Harry Orenstein wrote: First time I've ever seen an Unknown weather type. Looks like it's the first new one in over a year! --- weathertypes.old 2004-08-16 23:20:32.0 -0400 +++ weathertypes.dat2005-12-30 22:52:31.947483599 -0500 @@ -92,6 +92,7 @@ 173,Strong Storms,thunshowers.png 175,PM Light Snow,flurries.png 178,AM Drizzle,lshowers.png +188,AM Rain/Snow,rainsnow.png 189,Strong Storms/Wind,thunshowers.png 193,PM Drizzle,lshowers.png 194,Drizzle,lshowers.png This would most likely be seen if you submit a ticket with it as an attachment at http://svn.mythtv.org/trac Thanks, Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] which sound card to hook into surround system
Dan Gapinski wrote: Hello, I'm new to Myth, and need to find the right sound card. My surround sound receiver has an optical input, as well as the RCA jacks. Are there any cards that work well with Myth and output via optical? Turtle Beach Riviera. $30 at newegg. Works great, just enable the SPDIF outputs in alsamixer and set Myth to ALSA:spdif and you're optical. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Installing MythTV
James Ayoub wrote: Please bare with me as I am new to linux. My intentions are to install mythtv on fedora core 2 by following Jarod Wilson guide found here: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php I installed Fedora Core2, upgraded it, installed NVidia drivers, installed sound card drivers and am now at step 9. which is to install mythtv. I went to mythtv.org http://mythtv.org and downloaded ver 0.18 and extracted the tar file but haven't found out how to install it via the yum command. Well, you're not really reading the instructions then, are you? Read step 9 again. Kevin ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
