Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
Yu Watanabe wrote: Thank you for the reply. I see. Then I will think of using v 3.3.1. wait for 3.4.x Which one is better to use? The Latest snapshot or the Latest stable release? It would be a great help if you could give us your opinion. 3.2.3 is considered stable, 3.3.x is a developer release tree and contains various things to be fixed or already fixed in svn. still, empty perfdata is not re-enabled and breaks various graphing addons. anyhow, that's up the nagios core devs to decide what to fix and when to release. the developer guidelines on wiki.nagios.org are lost, but iirc it's mentioned over there which versions indicate which release tree. Thanks, Yu Watanabe Andreas Ericsson さんは書きました: On 10/14/2011 02:01 AM, Yu Watanabe wrote: Hello Andreas. Thank you for the reply. I understood the situation. So, is v3.2.3 more stable version for now? No. 3.2.3 has the same leaks but more other bugs. I'm still not entirely convinced that one of the reported leaks is actually a leak though as I can't see it in valgrind myself. The other leaks are primarily onetimers, and the downtime and comment removal patches only matter if you're using the new custom commands from altinity (or is it opsera?) that delete downtime and comments on remote hosts when using nsca as a distribution mechanism, and noone in their right mind should be doing that nowadays anyway. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null -- DI (FH) Michael Friedrich Vienna University Computer Center Universitaetsstrasse 7 A-1010 Vienna, Austria email: michael.friedr...@univie.ac.at phone: +43 1 4277 14359 mobile: +43 664 60277 14359 fax:+43 1 4277 14338 web:http://www.univie.ac.at/zid http://www.aco.net Icinga Core IDOUtils Developer http://www.icinga.org -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
Michael, Thank you for the reply. Your information would be very useful. Thanks, Yu Michael Friedrich さんは書きました: Yu Watanabe wrote: Thank you for the reply. I see. Then I will think of using v 3.3.1. wait for 3.4.x Which one is better to use? The Latest snapshot or the Latest stable release? It would be a great help if you could give us your opinion. 3.2.3 is considered stable, 3.3.x is a developer release tree and contains various things to be fixed or already fixed in svn. still, empty perfdata is not re-enabled and breaks various graphing addons. anyhow, that's up the nagios core devs to decide what to fix and when to release. the developer guidelines on wiki.nagios.org are lost, but iirc it's mentioned over there which versions indicate which release tree. Thanks, Yu Watanabe Andreas Ericsson さんは書きました: On 10/14/2011 02:01 AM, Yu Watanabe wrote: Hello Andreas. Thank you for the reply. I understood the situation. So, is v3.2.3 more stable version for now? No. 3.2.3 has the same leaks but more other bugs. I'm still not entirely convinced that one of the reported leaks is actually a leak though as I can't see it in valgrind myself. The other leaks are primarily onetimers, and the downtime and comment removal patches only matter if you're using the new custom commands from altinity (or is it opsera?) that delete downtime and comments on remote hosts when using nsca as a distribution mechanism, and noone in their right mind should be doing that nowadays anyway. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null -- DI (FH) Michael Friedrich Vienna University Computer Center Universitaetsstrasse 7 A-1010 Vienna, Austria email: michael.friedr...@univie.ac.at phone: +43 1 4277 14359 mobile: +43 664 60277 14359 fax: +43 1 4277 14338 web: http://www.univie.ac.at/zid http://www.aco.net Icinga Core IDOUtils Developer http://www.icinga.org -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
On 10/17/11 9:31 AM, Michael Friedrich michael.friedr...@univie.ac.at wrote: 3.2.3 is considered stable, 3.3.x is a developer release tree and Are you sure? 3.3.1 is marked as the latest stable on http://nagios.org/download/core/thanks/?registered=1 and 3.2.3 as the previous stable. -- Wim Fournier -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
Fournier, Wim wrote: On 10/17/11 9:31 AM, Michael Friedrichmichael.friedr...@univie.ac.at wrote: 3.2.3 is considered stable, 3.3.x is a developer release tree and Are you sure? 3.3.1 is marked as the latest stable on http://nagios.org/download/core/thanks/?registered=1 and 3.2.3 as the previous stable. oh. i wasn't aware of that change, thanks for the pointer. well if they say so. i've encountered and fixed various bugs on my 3.3.1 github tree, so i don't consider it stable as it should be. anyhow, as stated before, that's nagios devs' decision not mine ;-) -- Wim Fournier -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null -- DI (FH) Michael Friedrich Vienna University Computer Center Universitaetsstrasse 7 A-1010 Vienna, Austria email: michael.friedr...@univie.ac.at phone: +43 1 4277 14359 mobile: +43 664 60277 14359 fax:+43 1 4277 14338 web:http://www.univie.ac.at/zid http://www.aco.net Icinga Core IDOUtils Developer http://www.icinga.org -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
On 10/17/2011 11:10 AM, Michael Friedrich wrote: Fournier, Wim wrote: On 10/17/11 9:31 AM, Michael Friedrichmichael.friedr...@univie.ac.at wrote: 3.2.3 is considered stable, 3.3.x is a developer release tree and Are you sure? 3.3.1 is marked as the latest stable on http://nagios.org/download/core/thanks/?registered=1 and 3.2.3 as the previous stable. oh. i wasn't aware of that change, thanks for the pointer. well if they say so. i've encountered and fixed various bugs on my 3.3.1 github tree, so i don't consider it stable as it should be. anyhow, as stated before, that's nagios devs' decision not mine ;-) All non-trivial programs have bugs. How many have you fixed in Icinga that were shipped in stable releases? The ones reported for Nagios have all been fairly safe in that they're small or one-time leaks, exist in code not normally exercised (recently added features without ui support), changes in behaviour that might as well have been misdocumented in the first place or only triggered by certain combinations of eventbroker modules. And yes, 3.3.1 is the latest stable. I'm not aware of any bugs in it, apart from the potential one that Dorian sent me a patch for a few weeks ago that I still haven't had time to review and test properly, so it's a bug in potentia, but not actually verified. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
Andreas Ericsson wrote: On 10/17/2011 11:10 AM, Michael Friedrich wrote: Fournier, Wim wrote: On 10/17/11 9:31 AM, Michael Friedrichmichael.friedr...@univie.ac.at wrote: 3.2.3 is considered stable, 3.3.x is a developer release tree and Are you sure? 3.3.1 is marked as the latest stable on http://nagios.org/download/core/thanks/?registered=1 and 3.2.3 as the previous stable. oh. i wasn't aware of that change, thanks for the pointer. well if they say so. i've encountered and fixed various bugs on my 3.3.1 github tree, so i don't consider it stable as it should be. anyhow, as stated before, that's nagios devs' decision not mine ;-) All non-trivial programs have bugs. How many have you fixed in Icinga that were shipped in stable releases? The ones reported for Nagios have all been fairly safe in that they're small or one-time leaks, exist in code not normally exercised (recently added features without ui support), changes in behaviour that might as well have been misdocumented in the first place or only triggered by certain combinations of eventbroker modules. i've added my input on the empty perfdata behaviorial change on the nagios-devel lists and i do think that this is a bug because it actually breaks compatibility. even if not intended, if the behaviour stayed thre for a long time, i don't see the reason to fix that this way. but solely, that's just my opinion even if i break the abi myself from time to time. just a hint to reduce support questions. And yes, 3.3.1 is the latest stable. I'm not aware of any bugs in it, apart from the potential one that Dorian sent me a patch for a few weeks ago that I still haven't had time to review and test properly, so it's a bug in potentia, but not actually verified. i've looked over them and i am still waiting for further input on what exactly leaks. i'm with you, free'ing the macros themselves rather than cleaning up the whole mess. -- DI (FH) Michael Friedrich Vienna University Computer Center Universitaetsstrasse 7 A-1010 Vienna, Austria email: michael.friedr...@univie.ac.at phone: +43 1 4277 14359 mobile: +43 664 60277 14359 fax:+43 1 4277 14338 web:http://www.univie.ac.at/zid http://www.aco.net Icinga Core IDOUtils Developer http://www.icinga.org -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
Thank you for the reply. I see. Then I will think of using v 3.3.1. Which one is better to use? The Latest snapshot or the Latest stable release? It would be a great help if you could give us your opinion. Thanks, Yu Watanabe Andreas Ericsson さんは書きました: On 10/14/2011 02:01 AM, Yu Watanabe wrote: Hello Andreas. Thank you for the reply. I understood the situation. So, is v3.2.3 more stable version for now? No. 3.2.3 has the same leaks but more other bugs. I'm still not entirely convinced that one of the reported leaks is actually a leak though as I can't see it in valgrind myself. The other leaks are primarily onetimers, and the downtime and comment removal patches only matter if you're using the new custom commands from altinity (or is it opsera?) that delete downtime and comments on remote hosts when using nsca as a distribution mechanism, and noone in their right mind should be doing that nowadays anyway. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
On 10/14/2011 02:01 AM, Yu Watanabe wrote: Hello Andreas. Thank you for the reply. I understood the situation. So, is v3.2.3 more stable version for now? No. 3.2.3 has the same leaks but more other bugs. I'm still not entirely convinced that one of the reported leaks is actually a leak though as I can't see it in valgrind myself. The other leaks are primarily onetimers, and the downtime and comment removal patches only matter if you're using the new custom commands from altinity (or is it opsera?) that delete downtime and comments on remote hosts when using nsca as a distribution mechanism, and noone in their right mind should be doing that nowadays anyway. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
On 10/13/2011 07:09 AM, Yu Watanabe wrote: Hello all. I was curious there will be any new releases coming out in Nagios. I remember there was memory leak in 3.3.1. Are there any plans for any new releases? No, there will never be a new release of Nagios ever again. We've all decided to take up knitting and unicorn-breeding instead. On a more serious note; Ofcourse there will be a new release of Nagios. The memory leaks are not very serious and have not yet been merged to the Nagios core, so making a new release right now would be stupid. I still need more time to fully investigate the pros and cons of the patch sent in to handle the memory leak in the notification, for instance. I believe the proposed fix either doesn't fix the leak completely or fixes it in a bad way that would cause other problems, so I need to run it through valgrind a couple of times to first of all see the leak for myself and secondly make sure nothing bad happens when the patch is applied and there are multiple notifications going out, of which some are sent to escalated contacts. In the meantime, you can restart your Nagios daemon once a year to avoid any realworld problems from any potential leaks (although running latest svn trunk would fix most of them too, so you could probably get away with restarting only ever leapyear or something). -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
Hello Andreas. Thank you for the reply. I understood the situation. So, is v 3.2.3 more stable version for now? Thanks, Yu Andreas Ericsson さんは書きました: On 10/13/2011 07:09 AM, Yu Watanabe wrote: Hello all. I was curious there will be any new releases coming out in Nagios. I remember there was memory leak in 3.3.1. Are there any plans for any new releases? No, there will never be a new release of Nagios ever again. We've all decided to take up knitting and unicorn-breeding instead. On a more serious note; Ofcourse there will be a new release of Nagios. The memory leaks are not very serious and have not yet been merged to the Nagios core, so making a new release right now would be stupid. I still need more time to fully investigate the pros and cons of the patch sent in to handle the memory leak in the notification, for instance. I believe the proposed fix either doesn't fix the leak completely or fixes it in a bad way that would cause other problems, so I need to run it through valgrind a couple of times to first of all see the leak for myself and secondly make sure nothing bad happens when the patch is applied and there are multiple notifications going out, of which some are sent to escalated contacts. In the meantime, you can restart your Nagios daemon once a year to avoid any realworld problems from any potential leaks (although running latest svn trunk would fix most of them too, so you could probably get away with restarting only ever leapyear or something). -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.erics...@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war on peace. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
[Nagios-users] About new release for Nagios
Hello all. I was curious there will be any new releases coming out in Nagios. I remember there was memory leak in 3.3.1. Are there any plans for any new releases? Thanks, Yu -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
