Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
Using check_dummy with a service check titled No Services is exactly how we are doing this here. We have a number of hosts which we are really only interested in if the machine is running or not - so check_icmp is specified as the host check, and No services as the only service check. You are right, however, in that all these No Services show up in the service status list. If you don't want that, about the only way I can think of is to not associate any services with the host, and simply ignore the warnings you get about that when running nagios -v. This does cause some display issues, however (hosts without services tend to not show up in various screens) - thus the reason I opted to add the No services service. --- Israel Brewster Computer Support Technician II Frontier Flying Service Inc. 5245 Airport Industrial Rd Fairbanks, AK 99709 (907) 450-7250 x293 --- On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Deborah Martin wrote: Folks, Whilst using check_dummy as a service check does resolve the pre- flight warnings, it's not the solution I think I'm looking for. The total number of service checks now includes the dummy checks which i've chosen to always exit as UP so that it doesn't show up as a service problem - which to me doesn't sound like the right way to do this. I want all service checks to be useful service checks rather than have checks which would need to be ignored as they don't return anything useful as with check_dummy - I wouldn't ever use that check in any Nagios SLA reporting. What I really want to do is the following : Hosts -- ssh check -- When CRITICAL alert under Host problems only. The docs show a distinct difference for behaviour between Nagios 2.0b4 and Nagios 3.0.6. From Nagios 2.0b4, under Host Definitions:- check_command: This directive is used to specify the short name of the command that should be used to check if the host is up or down. Typically, this command would try and ping the host to see if it is alive. The command must return a status of OK (0) or Nagios will assume the host is down. If you leave this argument blank, the host will not be checked - Nagios will always assume the host is up. This is useful if you are monitoring printers or other devices that are frequently turned off. The maximum amount of time that the notification command can run is controlled by the host_check_timeout option. From Nagios 3.0.6 check_command: This directive is used to specify the short name of the command that should be used to check if the host is up or down. Typically, this command would try and ping the host to see if it is alive. The command must return a status of OK (0) or Nagios will assume the host is down. If you leave this argument blank, the host will not be actively checked. Thus, Nagios will likely always assume the host is up (it may show up as being in a PENDING state in the web interface). This is useful if you are monitoring printers or other devices that are frequently turned off. The maximum amount of time that the notification command can run is controlled by the host_check_timeout option. The difference is highlighted in RED. So on changing the ssh check from a service to a host definition (to prevent PENDING on the hosts), the pre-flight warnings now complain there are no services associated with the hosts. On big systems here (100 nodes+) this makes the pre-flight output really unreadable and not really accurate as surely we should be able to choose whether something is a host check or service check but not have to define BOTH! Ultimately, I just want to filter SSH check problems to appear under Host problems rather than under Service problems so users can easily spot other service problem issues and not have to trawl through 100's of lines of output in the web interface. Believe me, Nagios web interface users can be a fickle bunch! A switch to tell Nagios to not complain about this would be really useful unless anyone thinks of a good reason why this would be a bad idea. any help / pointers would be appreciated, even if it's to tell me politely how stupid i'm being - I can take it! regards, deborah From: Deborah Martin [mailto:deborah.mar...@kognitio.com] Sent: 16 March 2009 15:34 To: 'Richard Quintin' Cc: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks Thanks Richard. I'll give that a try. regards, deborah -Original Message- From: Richard Quintin [mailto:rich+nag...@quintinz.com] Sent: 16 March 2009 15:26 To: Deborah Martin Cc: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks You could use check_dummy for the host check and just have it always return OK. Or perhaps the opposite you could add a check_dummy service check for all hosts. Which you
[Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
Hi Folks, Currently, the main nagios box (running old version of SuSE) and Nagios 2.0b4 is running just with service checks, one of which is an ssh check (we don't allow ping) So in the web interface, I see all hosts as up. However, I've built a new box (which hopefully will replace the above) with SLES 10SP1 and Nagios 3.0.6. I've put the same config files (services.cfg and hosts.cfg) on the this new system. But now the hosts all show as Pending. So I then moved the ssh check from a service check to a host check and can see that the more hosts I move the less hosts are pending. That's good so far... But, when I run the pre-flight check (/usr/local/nagios/bin/nagios -v nagios.cfg), I now get warnings to say some hosts don't have any service checks associated with it! This is true as some nodes will only have ssh checks against them whilst others will have other checks against them. I'd rather it didn't warn me as I have hundreds of hosts appear in the pre-flight check warnings and it now looks incredibly untidy to see all this. How can I get rid of these warnings ? I'm probably missing something here so any help would be appreciated. I'm wondering for example, if I should force the initial state to be UP for hosts rather than moving the ssh service check to a host check. But then what would happen if the service check found a node was down - would it reflect that in the host problems ? regards, deborah *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorised distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. Whilst Kognitio Limited takes steps to prevent the transmission of viruses via e-mail, we can not guarantee that any email or attachment is free from computer viruses and you are strongly advised to undertake your own anti-virus precautions. Kognitio grants no warranties regarding performance, use or quality of any e-mail or attachment and undertakes no liability for loss or damage, howsoever caused. Kognitio Limited, a company registered in England and Wales. Registered number 0212 7833. Registered Office: 3a Waterside Park, Cookham Road, Bracknell, Berks, RG12 1RB. VAT number 864 4378 92. Kognitio Inc, a company incorporated in Delaware, principal office 180 North Stetson, Suite 3500, Chicago, IL 60601, USA ***-- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
You could use check_dummy for the host check and just have it always return OK. Or perhaps the opposite you could add a check_dummy service check for all hosts. Which you choose will depend upon your personal preference and how you want dependencies to be handled. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Deborah Martin deborah.mar...@kognitio.com wrote: Hi Folks, Currently, the main nagios box (running old version of SuSE) and Nagios 2.0b4 is running just with service checks, one of which is an ssh check (we don't allow ping) So in the web interface, I see all hosts as up. However, I've built a new box (which hopefully will replace the above) with SLES 10SP1 and Nagios 3.0.6. I've put the same config files (services.cfg and hosts.cfg) on the this new system. But now the hosts all show as Pending. So I then moved the ssh check from a service check to a host check and can see that the more hosts I move the less hosts are pending. That's good so far... But, when I run the pre-flight check (/usr/local/nagios/bin/nagios -v nagios.cfg), I now get warnings to say some hosts don't have any service checks associated with it! This is true as some nodes will only have ssh checks against them whilst others will have other checks against them. I'd rather it didn't warn me as I have hundreds of hosts appear in the pre-flight check warnings and it now looks incredibly untidy to see all this. How can I get rid of these warnings ? I'm probably missing something here so any help would be appreciated. I'm wondering for example, if I should force the initial state to be UP for hosts rather than moving the ssh service check to a host check. But then what would happen if the service check found a node was down - would it reflect that in the host problems ? regards, deborah *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorised distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. Whilst Kognitio Limited takes steps to prevent the transmission of viruses via e-mail, we can not guarantee that any email or attachment is free from computer viruses and you are strongly advised to undertake your own anti-virus precautions. Kognitio grants no warranties regarding performance, use or quality of any e-mail or attachment and undertakes no liability for loss or damage, howsoever caused. Kognitio Limited, a company registered in England and Wales. Registered number 0212 7833. Registered Office: 3a Waterside Park, Cookham Road, Bracknell, Berks, RG12 1RB. VAT number 864 4378 92. Kognitio Inc, a company incorporated in Delaware, principal office 180 North Stetson, Suite 3500, Chicago, IL 60601, USA *** -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null -- Richard Quintin, DBA Database Application Administration Virginia Tech -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
Thanks Richard. I'll give that a try. regards, deborah -Original Message- From: Richard Quintin [mailto:rich+nag...@quintinz.com] Sent: 16 March 2009 15:26 To: Deborah Martin Cc: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks You could use check_dummy for the host check and just have it always return OK. Or perhaps the opposite you could add a check_dummy service check for all hosts. Which you choose will depend upon your personal preference and how you want dependencies to be handled. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Deborah Martin deborah.mar...@kognitio.com wrote: Hi Folks, Currently, the main nagios box (running old version of SuSE) and Nagios 2.0b4 is running just with service checks, one of which is an ssh check (we don't allow ping) So in the web interface, I see all hosts as up. However, I've built a new box (which hopefully will replace the above) with SLES 10SP1 and Nagios 3.0.6. I've put the same config files (services.cfg and hosts.cfg) on the this new system. But now the hosts all show as Pending. So I then moved the ssh check from a service check to a host check and can see that the more hosts I move the less hosts are pending. That's good so far... But, when I run the pre-flight check (/usr/local/nagios/bin/nagios -v nagios.cfg), I now get warnings to say some hosts don't have any service checks associated with it! This is true as some nodes will only have ssh checks against them whilst others will have other checks against them. I'd rather it didn't warn me as I have hundreds of hosts appear in the pre-flight check warnings and it now looks incredibly untidy to see all this. How can I get rid of these warnings ? I'm probably missing something here so any help would be appreciated. I'm wondering for example, if I should force the initial state to be UP for hosts rather than moving the ssh service check to a host check. But then what would happen if the service check found a node was down - would it reflect that in the host problems ? regards, deborah ** * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorised distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. Whilst Kognitio Limited takes steps to prevent the transmission of viruses via e-mail, we can not guarantee that any email or attachment is free from computer viruses and you are strongly advised to undertake your own anti-virus precautions. Kognitio grants no warranties regarding performance, use or quality of any e-mail or attachment and undertakes no liability for loss or damage, howsoever caused. Kognitio Limited, a company registered in England and Wales. Registered number 0212 7833. Registered Office: 3a Waterside Park, Cookham Road, Bracknell, Berks, RG12 1RB. VAT number 864 4378 92. Kognitio Inc, a company incorporated in Delaware, principal office 180 North Stetson, Suite 3500, Chicago, IL 60601, USA ** * -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null -- Richard Quintin, DBA Database Application Administration Virginia Tech *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorised distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. Whilst Kognitio Limited takes steps to prevent the transmission of viruses via e-mail, we can not guarantee that any email or attachment is free from computer viruses and you are strongly advised to undertake your own anti-virus precautions. Kognitio grants no warranties regarding performance, use or quality of any e-mail or attachment and undertakes no liability for loss or damage, howsoever caused. Kognitio Limited, a company registered in England and Wales. Registered number 0212 7833. Registered Office: 3a Waterside Park, Cookham Road, Bracknell, Berks, RG12 1RB. VAT
Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
Folks, I should have also mentioned that the reason for doing this is to filter out host problems separately to service problems. If I leave ssh checks as a service and 44 nodes are switched off, I see 44 ssh critical alerts under Service Problems. I'd rather see 44 ssh critical alerts under Host Problems. (I thought my method below would a good way to filter these out). When we resize database systems, we only want to know about critical alerts for the database as a service problem (we may reduce a DB by 50 nodes but DB is still valid for monitoring) regards, deborah _ From: Deborah Martin Sent: 16 March 2009 15:06 To: 'nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: Host checks instead of service checks Importance: High Hi Folks, Currently, the main nagios box (running old version of SuSE) and Nagios 2.0b4 is running just with service checks, one of which is an ssh check (we don't allow ping) So in the web interface, I see all hosts as up. However, I've built a new box (which hopefully will replace the above) with SLES 10SP1 and Nagios 3.0.6. I've put the same config files (services.cfg and hosts.cfg) on the this new system. But now the hosts all show as Pending. So I then moved the ssh check from a service check to a host check and can see that the more hosts I move the less hosts are pending. That's good so far... But, when I run the pre-flight check (/usr/local/nagios/bin/nagios -v nagios.cfg), I now get warnings to say some hosts don't have any service checks associated with it! This is true as some nodes will only have ssh checks against them whilst others will have other checks against them. I'd rather it didn't warn me as I have hundreds of hosts appear in the pre-flight check warnings and it now looks incredibly untidy to see all this. How can I get rid of these warnings ? I'm probably missing something here so any help would be appreciated. I'm wondering for example, if I should force the initial state to be UP for hosts rather than moving the ssh service check to a host check. But then what would happen if the service check found a node was down - would it reflect that in the host problems ? regards, deborah *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorised distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. Whilst Kognitio Limited takes steps to prevent the transmission of viruses via e-mail, we can not guarantee that any email or attachment is free from computer viruses and you are strongly advised to undertake your own anti-virus precautions. Kognitio grants no warranties regarding performance, use or quality of any e-mail or attachment and undertakes no liability for loss or damage, howsoever caused. Kognitio Limited, a company registered in England and Wales. Registered number 0212 7833. Registered Office: 3a Waterside Park, Cookham Road, Bracknell, Berks, RG12 1RB. VAT number 864 4378 92. Kognitio Inc, a company incorporated in Delaware, principal office 180 North Stetson, Suite 3500, Chicago, IL 60601, USA ***-- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
2009/3/16 Deborah Martin deborah.mar...@kognitio.com: Hi Folks, Currently, the main nagios box (running old version of SuSE) and Nagios 2.0b4 is running just with service checks, one of which is an ssh check (we don't allow ping) So in the web interface, I see all hosts as up. However, I've built a new box (which hopefully will replace the above) with SLES 10SP1 and Nagios 3.0.6. I've put the same config files (services.cfg and hosts.cfg) on the this new system. But now the hosts all show as Pending. So I then moved the ssh check from a service check to a host check and can see that the more hosts I move the less hosts are pending. That's good so far... But, when I run the pre-flight check (/usr/local/nagios/bin/nagios -v nagios.cfg), I now get warnings to say some hosts don't have any service checks associated with it! This is true as some nodes will only have ssh checks against them whilst others will have other checks against them. I'd rather it didn't warn me as I have hundreds of hosts appear in the pre-flight check warnings and it now looks incredibly untidy to see all this. How can I get rid of these warnings ? I'm probably missing something here so any help would be appreciated. I'm wondering for example, if I should force the initial state to be UP for hosts rather than moving the ssh service check to a host check. But then what would happen if the service check found a node was down - would it reflect that in the host problems ? You're right, it wouldn't. For the host check, you need some method of checking if the host is up. If ssh is the only method at your disposal to check if a host is up, and there are no other services you can monitor as service checks then my humble opinion is you're best off specifying ssh for both your host and service checks on those hosts. I am allowed to use ping, so I do. For those nodes on which I monitor no services, I also use ping as the service check - to me that's functionally equivalent to using ssh for both, it's just a different service. If you're monitoring other services and you're only using the ssh checks to see if the host is up or not, then I'd recommend just using the ssh check as a host check, leaving the others as service checks. I wonder, though, if it might be possible for you to check the host using a passive check? For example you could have cron send a check using NSCA from your server every minute and use freshness checking to see if the host is down or not. I can't say I've ever tried it but guess it's another option worth thinking about. Cheers, Jim -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null
Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
Folks, Whilst using check_dummy as a service check does resolve the pre-flight warnings, it's not the solution I think I'm looking for. The total number of service checks now includes the dummy checks which i've chosen to always exit as UP so that it doesn't show up as a service problem - which to me doesn't sound like the right way to do this. I want all service checks to be useful service checks rather than have checks which would need to be ignored as they don't return anything useful as with check_dummy - I wouldn't ever use that check in any Nagios SLA reporting. What I really want to do is the following : Hosts -- ssh check -- When CRITICAL alert under Host problems only. The docs show a distinct difference for behaviour between Nagios 2.0b4 and Nagios 3.0.6. From Nagios 2.0b4, under Host Definitions:- check_command: This directive is used to specify the short name of the http://193.35.206.171/nagios/docs/xodtemplate.html#command command that should be used to check if the host is up or down. Typically, this command would try and ping the host to see if it is alive. The command must return a status of OK (0) or Nagios will assume the host is down. If you leave this argument blank, the host will not be checked - Nagios will always assume the host is up. This is useful if you are monitoring printers or other devices that are frequently turned off. The maximum amount of time that the notification command can run is controlled by the http://193.35.206.171/nagios/docs/configmain.html#host_check_timeout host_check_timeout option. From Nagios 3.0.6 check_command: This directive is used to specify the short name of the http://193.35.206.117/nagios/docs/objectdefinitions.html#command command that should be used to check if the host is up or down. Typically, this command would try and ping the host to see if it is alive. The command must return a status of OK (0) or Nagios will assume the host is down. If you leave this argument blank, the host will not be actively checked. Thus, Nagios will likely always assume the host is up (it may show up as being in a PENDING state in the web interface). This is useful if you are monitoring printers or other devices that are frequently turned off. The maximum amount of time that the notification command can run is controlled by the http://193.35.206.117/nagios/docs/configmain.html#host_check_timeout host_check_timeout option. The difference is highlighted in RED. So on changing the ssh check from a service to a host definition (to prevent PENDING on the hosts), the pre-flight warnings now complain there are no services associated with the hosts. On big systems here (100 nodes+) this makes the pre-flight output really unreadable and not really accurate as surely we should be able to choose whether something is a host check or service check but not have to define BOTH! Ultimately, I just want to filter SSH check problems to appear under Host problems rather than under Service problems so users can easily spot other service problem issues and not have to trawl through 100's of lines of output in the web interface. Believe me, Nagios web interface users can be a fickle bunch! A switch to tell Nagios to not complain about this would be really useful unless anyone thinks of a good reason why this would be a bad idea. any help / pointers would be appreciated, even if it's to tell me politely how stupid i'm being - I can take it! regards, deborah _ From: Deborah Martin [mailto:deborah.mar...@kognitio.com] Sent: 16 March 2009 15:34 To: 'Richard Quintin' Cc: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks Thanks Richard. I'll give that a try. regards, deborah -Original Message- From: Richard Quintin [mailto:rich+nag...@quintinz.com mailto:rich+nag...@quintinz.com ] Sent: 16 March 2009 15:26 To: Deborah Martin Cc: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks You could use check_dummy for the host check and just have it always return OK. Or perhaps the opposite you could add a check_dummy service check for all hosts. Which you choose will depend upon your personal preference and how you want dependencies to be handled. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Deborah Martin deborah.mar...@kognitio.com wrote: Hi Folks, Currently, the main nagios box (running old version of SuSE) and Nagios 2.0b4 is running just with service checks, one of which is an ssh check (we don't allow ping) So in the web interface, I see all hosts as up. However, I've built a new box (which hopefully will replace the above) with SLES 10SP1 and Nagios 3.0.6. I've put the same config files (services.cfg and hosts.cfg) on the this new system. But now the hosts all show as Pending. So I then moved the ssh check from a service check to a host check and can see that the more hosts I move
Re: [Nagios-users] Host checks instead of service checks
2009/3/16 Deborah Martin deborah.mar...@kognitio.com: So on changing the ssh check from a service to a host definition (to prevent PENDING on the hosts), the pre-flight warnings now complain there are no services associated with the hosts. On big systems here (100 nodes+) this makes the pre-flight output really unreadable and not really accurate as surely we should be able to choose whether something is a host check or service check but not have to define BOTH! Ultimately, I just want to filter SSH check problems to appear under Host problems rather than under Service problems so users can easily spot other service problem issues and not have to trawl through 100's of lines of output in the web interface. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand. If there are other service problems this implies you are monitoring services other than ssh on that host. In that case it is perfectly valid to have ssh as your host check and various other checks as your service checks. The pre-flight nagios -v test then won't complain at all. Please don't forget that the primary purpose of Nagios is to alert you when a service important to you has a problem. If a service isn't important to you you probably shouldn't be monitoring it with Nagios. If ssh is the only service important to you on a server and it's also the only way to check whether it is up, it's perfectly valid to have it both as a service and host check. If it really bothers you, you could probably contrive an snmp query of the port on the switch most local to the server to see if it's 'up' or not. Cheers, Jim -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Nagios-users mailing list Nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nagios-users ::: Please include Nagios version, plugin version (-v) and OS when reporting any issue. ::: Messages without supporting info will risk being sent to /dev/null