RE: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
Nice resource from Cisco for BGP http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm Kashif Salam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Irwin Lazar Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies? Try: http://www.itprc.com/routing.htm Look under the BGP sub-heading for links to a lot of info. Irwin From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:35:34 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies? Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net This email is intended only for the person(s) named above and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error please promptly notify the sender of the message and delete it and any attachments from your computer.
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 21:35, David E. Smith wrote: Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. Within the E-Next network of excellence, we organised two weeks ago a two-days tutorial on BGP. This tutorial assumes that the attendees have a basic understanding of IP routing works but no prior knowledge of BGP is assumed. The tutorial has a theoretical part covering the behaviour of the BGP protocol and a practical part with the C-BGP simulator (http://cbgp.info.ucl.ac.be) whose syntax is close to Cisco routers. Upon request from some attendees of the tutorial who intend to deliver BGP courses within their universities, we have released all the training material under a creative commons licence, see : http://totem.info.ucl.ac.be/bgp.html Suggestions and comments on improvements to this training material are welcome Best regards, Olivier Bonaventure -- CSE Dept. UCL, Belgium - http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/people/OBO/
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
Try: http://www.itprc.com/routing.htm Look under the BGP sub-heading for links to a lot of info. Irwin From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:35:34 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies? Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
I recommend such thing (remembering, how we learned BGP ourself many years ago, and then participated in edition of the book about BGP). But it all depends of complexity. 2 uplink multihome site - simple case; 100 node backbone with reflectors and private AS-es - another one. On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 21:35, David E. Smith wrote: Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. Within the E-Next network of excellence, we organised two weeks ago a two-days tutorial on BGP. This tutorial assumes that the attendees have a basic understanding of IP routing works but no prior knowledge of BGP is assumed. The tutorial has a theoretical part covering the behaviour of the BGP protocol and a practical part with the C-BGP simulator (http://cbgp.info.ucl.ac.be) whose syntax is close to Cisco routers. Upon request from some attendees of the tutorial who intend to deliver BGP courses within their universities, we have released all the training material under a creative commons licence, see : http://totem.info.ucl.ac.be/bgp.html Suggestions and comments on improvements to this training material are welcome Best regards, Olivier Bonaventure -- CSE Dept. UCL, Belgium - http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/people/OBO/
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To my mind, John Stewart's BGP4: Inter-Domain Routing on the Internet is the best networking book ever. Unfortunately, it is also one of those books (just like A Brief History of Time) that one leant is never returned. I must have bought around 10-12 copies of it by now. It is well written, concise (around 150 pages) and deals with real world scenarios. I strongly recommend it, Warren. - -- Never criticize a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes. Then if he didn't like what you've said, he's a mile away and barefoot. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBvQJAHSkNr4ucEScRAuTLAJ9R98NhpIzg5QZHUL0/xN0BZ7suewCfQNrs TPiA2myhTI9XNLV0QlaQccc= =TuYo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
Here is it: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_tech_note09186a00800c95bb.shtml Very good document.
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
There was excellent docuent on Cisco (better than book). I can search for it, if you want. This one is not too bad .. Practical BGP (Russ White, Danny McPherson, Srihari Sangli) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321127005/103-1122659-1873401?v=glance I have two books that I'm quite fond of: BGP4: Interdomain Routing in the Internet, by John W. Stewart Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd Edition, by Sam Halabi I found both books to be extremely helpful. Regards, John --
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
There was excellent docuent on Cisco (better than book). I can search for it, if you want. Btw, BGP is not for dummies, too many possible consequencies of config errors are possible. - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:35 PM Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies? Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:08:45 -0800, Alexei Roudnev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was excellent docuent on Cisco (better than book). I can search for it, if you want. This one is not too bad .. Practical BGP (Russ White, Danny McPherson, Srihari Sangli) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321127005/103-1122659-1873401?v=glance Btw, BGP is not for dummies, too many possible consequencies of config errors are possible. Sometimes that's the best way to learn .. when you have accidentally messed up configs on a router that's halfway across town once, have to drive over and fix the resulting mess, you learn quite fast not to repeat that mistake again :) If this guy was anywhere in the asiapac region I'd just have asked him to attend the workshops and tutorials at SANOG or APRICOT - there are a lot more teaching in those two events than you see in NANOG meetings. --srs -- Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
Check this out... http://www.bgp4.as/books Good luck. -Charlie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies? Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net
Re: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
This is a bit dated, but a good place to start.. BGP4 Case Studies - Sam Halabi http://www.cs.fsu.edu/courses/netdesign/halabi/halabi-bgp4-case-studies-tutorial.pdf#search='halabi%20bgp%20cisco' For a forum try: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-routing/ Internet.com has a number of forums in this genre, just poke around their website a bit.. John - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:35 PM Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies? Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net
(newbie) BGP For Dummies?
Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller... Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net