Re: AUP enforcement diligence

2007-03-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian


On 3/17/07, Steve Sobol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, David Barak wrote:

> It does surprise me that no enterprising person/group
> has turned this into a salable feature: "we're the
> network which shuts down spammers/infected/baddies."

IMHO being the good cop has never been a mass-marketable feature, whether
we're talking spam, botnets, phising, cracking attempts, whatever...



There are a few in that racket as well ...  RSA Cyota for example.
With some real big name customers.

There's of course services like Markmonitor that go around looking for
trademark violations on registered domains ..

--
Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


Re: AUP enforcement diligence

2007-03-16 Thread Steve Sobol

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, David Barak wrote:
 
> It does surprise me that no enterprising person/group
> has turned this into a salable feature: "we're the
> network which shuts down spammers/infected/baddies." 

IMHO being the good cop has never been a mass-marketable feature, whether
we're talking spam, botnets, phising, cracking attempts, whatever...


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Re: AUP enforcement diligence

2007-03-16 Thread Adrian Chadd

On Fri, Mar 16, 2007, David Barak wrote:

> It does surprise me that no enterprising person/group
> has turned this into a salable feature: "we're the
> network which shuts down spammers/infected/baddies." 
> I could imagine that there would be customers who
> would rather give their business to providers who are
> more active in this regard than less, and that would
> be a way for a service provider to differentiate
> themself from the rest of the pack.

People try that. They then get DDoS'ed. Then they stop.
(Thats the people that try to do it by providing internet-based services.
People who sell products probably fare slightly better.)




Adrian



AUP enforcement diligence

2007-03-16 Thread David Barak


--- Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How many people thank the police officer for
> stopping them and giving
> them a ticket for violating traffic rules?
> 

I do, but perhaps I'm uncommon in this regard.

Your larger point, however, is completely valid: there
is a relatively normal desire to have rules enforced
on other people with more zeal than one would choose
for oneself.

Perhaps more transparency is a tonic for this?  If ToS
and the AUP are more clearly written and enforced as
consistently as possible, I would expect customers to
be less horked off by AUP/ToS shutdowns.

It does surprise me that no enterprising person/group
has turned this into a salable feature: "we're the
network which shuts down spammers/infected/baddies." 
I could imagine that there would be customers who
would rather give their business to providers who are
more active in this regard than less, and that would
be a way for a service provider to differentiate
themself from the rest of the pack.

-David

David Barak
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