Re: CIDR & Broadband

2004-12-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:34:31 -0800 (PST), David Barak
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just happened to notice something:
> 
> AS18566  7557  74899.1%   CVAD
> Covad Communications

> Clearly, all of them can be described as "leaf" ASes.
> None of them seem to have multihoming customers (or at
> least not THAT many).  I seem to remember a person
> from Covad saying that their deaggregation was going
> to be temporary

It is about as temporary as a whole lot of other temporary things have
been over the years I suspect.

Anyway - as Brad Roldan of covad posted -

> Our superblocks are also being advertised, for those of you that want 
> to filter our routes. 
> 
> Want to discuss further? Great. Call me or email me directly. Contact
> info is below. 
> 
> Think you can do it better? Even better. It turns out I'm hiring. :)

So I guess till Brad hires someone who thinks he can do better wrt
avoiding random eastern european providers leaking covad specifics,
those of y'all who want to can just accept his superblock 
advertisements and forget about the deaggregates.

I don't suspect  that the world is suddenly going to be rid of
providers in remote corners of the world who fatfinger their router
configs, or that everybody's suddenly going to adopt bcp38 and stop
bogus advertisements in their tracks .. so we just resign ourselves to
seeing entries like those remain fixtures in future cidr reports  as
well :(

--srs
--srs


CIDR & Broadband

2004-12-17 Thread David Barak

Hi everyone,

I just happened to notice something:

AS18566  7557  74899.1%   CVAD
Covad Communications
AS27364  441   33  40892.5%   ARMC
Armstrong Cable Services
AS22773  416   24  39294.2%   CXA Cox
Communications Inc.
AS21502  2723  26998.9%  
ASN-NUMERICABLE NUMERICABLE is a cabled network in
France,
AS14654  2626  25697.7%   WAYPOR-3
Wayport
AS25844  244   17  22793.0%   SASMFL-2
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP
AS4814   2136  20797.2%  
CHINA169-BBN CNCGROUP  IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing
Broadband Network

Of these, the CIDR-report entries with > 90%
deaggregation, 6 are high-speed Internet providers,
and one's a lawfirm.  

Clearly, all of them can be described as "leaf" ASes. 
None of them seem to have multihoming customers (or at
least not THAT many).  I seem to remember a person
from Covad saying that their deaggregation was going
to be temporary
(http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2004-11/msg00366.html)
for some value of temporary, but what about the
others?  Any of the rest of you want to speak up and
explain this?



=
David Barak
-fully RFC 1925 compliant-



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