Re: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Roy


172.16/12 is RFC1918 space

Mark Boolootian wrote:


Can anyone tell me to whom 172.15/16 is allocated?  IANA says

 172/8   May 93   Various Registries

but checks with ARIN, RIPE, APNIC, AFRNIC, and LACNIC don't
show anything.

gr33tz to Team Furry!!

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Re: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Edward Lewis


But that doesn't answer the question: (;))

NetRange:   172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
CIDR:   172.16.0.0/12
NetName:IANA-BBLK-RESERVED

That's the reserved range, he's looking for the /16 before that.

Signed,

A curious bystander who spent a few moments on this out of curiosity.

At 11:11 -0700 9/28/05, Roy wrote:

172.16/12 is RFC1918 space

Mark Boolootian wrote:


Can anyone tell me to whom 172.15/16 is allocated?  IANA says

  172/8   May 93   Various Registries

but checks with ARIN, RIPE, APNIC, AFRNIC, and LACNIC don't
show anything.

gr33tz to Team Furry!!

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RE: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Hannigan, Martin

 
 
 
 But that doesn't answer the question: (;))
 
 NetRange:   172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
 CIDR:   172.16.0.0/12
 NetName:IANA-BBLK-RESERVED
 
 That's the reserved range, he's looking for the /16 before that.
 

Isn't 172.15/16 legacy Sun example space pre 1918? It's
all over CCO and Sunsolve in examples and defaults.



-M

 


RE: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Edward Lewis


At 14:35 -0400 9/28/05, Hannigan, Martin wrote:

Isn't 172.15/16 legacy Sun example space pre 1918? It's
all over CCO and Sunsolve in examples and defaults.


I poked some more and the LACNIC server says it is unallocated.  That 
was the most straightforward answer of the bunch.


It's an interesting exercise to see what the 5 RIRs return and what 
IANA doesn't. ;)


ARIN - no records found
APNIC - ' 172.0.0.0 is not allocated to APNIC' but lists CC of AU
AFRINIC - '0/0', CC of EU
LACNIC - unallocated
RIPE - pretty much the same answer as AfriNIC
IANA - doesn't query for numbers

Didn't see a WhoIs box on the NRO site.
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Re: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Charles Cala

i belive the space in question 
( before 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255)
is not in the arin database.


--- Edward Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But that doesn't answer the question: (;))
 
 NetRange:   172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
 CIDR:   172.16.0.0/12
 NetName:IANA-BBLK-RESERVED
 
 That's the reserved range, he's looking for the /16 before that.

arin says...
Various Registries (Maintained by ARIN) NET172 (NET-172-0-0-0-0) 
172.0.0.0 - 172.255.255.255

Internet Assigned Numbers Authority IANA-BBLK-RESERVED
(NET-172-16-0-0-1) 
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

America Online AOL-172BLK (NET-172-128-0-0-1) 
172.128.0.0 - 172.191.255.255

America Online AOL-172BLK-2 (NET-172-192-0-0-1) 
172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255

As for the Various Registries issue,
the hedder for the 192.* group says the same thing...
Various Registries (Maintained by ARIN) NET192 (NET-192-0-0-0-0) 
192.0.0.0 - 192.255.255.255
Internet Assigned Numbers Authority RESERVED-192 (NET-192-0-0-0-1) 
192.0.0.0 - 192.0.127.255


RE: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Jeroen Massar
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 14:44 -0400, Edward Lewis wrote:
 At 14:35 -0400 9/28/05, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
 Isn't 172.15/16 legacy Sun example space pre 1918? It's
 all over CCO and Sunsolve in examples and defaults.
 
 I poked some more and the LACNIC server says it is unallocated.  That 
 was the most straightforward answer of the bunch.
 
 It's an interesting exercise to see what the 5 RIRs return and what 
 IANA doesn't. ;)
 
 ARIN - no records found
 APNIC - ' 172.0.0.0 is not allocated to APNIC' but lists CC of AU

APNIC is based in Australia.

 AFRINIC - '0/0', CC of EU

The CC of EU, because RIPE is based in the EU, and AFRINIC is using RIPE
software, most likely initialized the same way the RIPEdb is.

 LACNIC - unallocated
 RIPE - pretty much the same answer as AfriNIC

See above.

 IANA - doesn't query for numbers

Thus all nicely return Unknown, which is consistent.

Greets,
 Jeroen



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RE: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread william(at)elan.net



I checked my historic files from 1991, 1997 and 1999 and don't see this 
block being allocated to anyone (don't have much data from 1991 - 1997 
unfortunetly...). My guess is that this /16 was never allocated.


On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Edward Lewis wrote:



At 14:35 -0400 9/28/05, Hannigan, Martin wrote:

Isn't 172.15/16 legacy Sun example space pre 1918? It's
all over CCO and Sunsolve in examples and defaults.


I poked some more and the LACNIC server says it is unallocated.  That was the 
most straightforward answer of the bunch.


It's an interesting exercise to see what the 5 RIRs return and what IANA 
doesn't. ;)


ARIN - no records found
APNIC - ' 172.0.0.0 is not allocated to APNIC' but lists CC of AU
AFRINIC - '0/0', CC of EU
LACNIC - unallocated
RIPE - pretty much the same answer as AfriNIC
IANA - doesn't query for numbers

Didn't see a WhoIs box on the NRO site.



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RE: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Edward Lewis


At 21:10 +0200 9/28/05, Jeroen Massar wrote:


Thus all nicely return Unknown, which is consistent.


No argument about that, but they do say it in different ways.  Hence 
a plug for the deployment of IRIS to tie the registry lookups 
together.


IRIS - http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/crisp-charter.html, the IETF 
WG developing it.

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Re: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?

2005-09-28 Thread Alan Spicer


Wow that's a waste ... the heck with the examples!

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Subject: RE: Anyone seen 172.15/16 lately?







But that doesn't answer the question: (;))

NetRange:   172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
CIDR:   172.16.0.0/12
NetName:IANA-BBLK-RESERVED

That's the reserved range, he's looking for the /16 before that.



Isn't 172.15/16 legacy Sun example space pre 1918? It's
all over CCO and Sunsolve in examples and defaults.



-M




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