Ok, the bug is still there. Received replies from helpful folks who
missed various parts of my posts. I'll stop posting about this now; it
is indeed a bit OT. As I said in my initial post: I'm looking for a
fix, not a workaround, and again: See
http://www.google.com/webmasters/remove.html
The above page says that
User-agent: Googlebot
Disallow: /*?
will block all standard-looking dynamic content, i.e. URLs with ? in
them.
On 11/16/05 11:44 AM, Michael Loftis sent forth electrons to convey:
I think that maybe googlebot parses robots.txt in order, so it's
seeing your USer-Agent: * line before it's more specific line and
matching that.
I'm not saying googlebot is right doing that, just saying maybe that's
what it's doing. Try reordering your file?
Could be, but their documentation, as I mentioned, specifically says
otherwise.
Michael Dillon wrote:
[put dynamic content in cgi-bin and have robots.txt block it]
...
When something doesn't work, the correct operational
response is to fix it.
AGAIN, I'm just asking Google to comply with the documentation they provide!
In other words, Googlebot is broken; it doesn't do what its
documentation it claims it will do.
The correct operational response is for Google to fix it. Whether they
change the code or the documentation is their choice. I'd say allowing
* to be special is a change worth making, despite the robustness
principle. (FYI, IETF does from time to time knowingly make changes
that are not backwards-compatible.)
Oh, and a ? in an URL has been a near-certain sign of dynamic content
for a decade
Oh, and I'm not a MediaWiki developer...
Niels Bakker wrote:
robots.txt is about explicitly spidering your site; Google will still
follow links from outside towards your website and index pages linked
that way.[...]
No, the robot.txt is being violated. There aren't ~40,000 links to the
site. Only around 130, according to
http://www.google.com/search?q=link%3Awiki.fastmail.fm
On 11/16/05 8:49 AM, Mike Damm sent forth electrons to convey:
Could you please give me the URL to your robots.txt?
It was implied, below. (Oh, and they removed it from my webmasterworld
forum post; it was in there initially.)
On 11/15/05, Matthew Elvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.fastmail.fm)
http://wiki.fastmail.fm/robots.txt
On 11/16/05 7:44 AM, Bill Weiss sent forth electrons to convey:
I attempted to respond on Nanog, but I don't have posting privs there it
seems. What I tried to send then:
http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots.html
Specifically, http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/faq.html#robotstxt covers the
problem you're having.
To paraphrase: you don't get wildcards in the Disallow section. Fall back
on using the META tags that do that sort of thing, or reorg your website
to make it possible without wildcards.
If you would forward this to the list for me, I would appreciate it.
Bill: you're right, except that Google has defined and documented an
extension, as I mentioned.
On 11/15/05 5:23 PM, William Yardley sent forth electrons to convey:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:56:12PM -0800, Matthew Elvey wrote:
Still no word from google, or indication that there's anything wrong
with the robots.txt. Google's estimated hit count is going slightly up,
instead of way down.
Did you try [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had good luck there in the past with
crawl related issues.
Yup. Emailed 'em on my last post.
Also, there were some folks from Google at the last NANOG meeting - look
near the top of the attendee list, and there is someone whom I believe
works on security stuff - googling should turn up her email address
pretty quickly.
Thanks. I'll hit some google folks directly. I just know someone in the
gmail area-pretty far removed.
--On November 15, 2005 4:56:12 PM -0800 Matthew Elvey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still no word from google, or indication that there's anything wrong
with
the robots.txt. Google's estimated hit count is going slightly up,
instead of way down.
Why am I bugging NANOG with this? Well, I'm sure if Googlebot keeps
ignoring my robots.txt file, thereby hammering the server and
facilitating s pam, they're doing the same with a google other sites.
(Well, ok, not a google, but you get my point.)
On 11/14/05 2:18 PM, Coyle, Brian sent forth electrons to convey:
Just thinking out loud...
Have you confirmed the IP addresses of the Googlebot entries in your
log
actually belong to Google?
/paranoia :)
The google search URL I posted shows that google is hitting the site.
There are results in there that point to pages that postdate the
robots.txt that should have blocked 'em.
(http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.fastmail.fm)
On 11/14/05 2:09 PM, Jeff Rosowski sent forth electrons to convey:
Are you trying to block everything except the main page? I know to
block everything ...
No; me too. See
http://www.google.com/webmasters/remove.html
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