re: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto
You may have heard that the US and Canada are going to start requiring passports for air travel between them beginning soon. That date is currently set as 8 Jan 2007, which is before February NANOG. MERIT has noted this on the web site, but a cursory check of my list archives didn't turn up mention of it (sorry if I overlooked it; the last couple of weeks have been hectic), so I figured I'd include the pointer: FYI, this date only applies to air or sea (which I imagine is the bulk of people going). However, for land crossings: http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/regional/regional_1170.html The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 requires that, by January 1, 2008, travelers to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Panama, Mexico and Canada have a passport or other secure, accepted document to enter or re-enter the United States. [...] The travel initiative requirements will be rolled out in phases. The proposed implementation timeline is as follows: December 31, 2006 - Passport required for all air and sea travel to or from Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda. December 31, 2007 - Passport required for all land border crossings, as well as air and sea travel.
Re: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto
In DC, at least, you can get an appointment (no Congressional pressure required), go to an office in the AM and pick it up the same day. I have done this several times; it always amazes me how many people are in line who are leaving the country the same day, but I wouldn't push it that far. Here are the offices : http://travel.state.gov/passport/about/agencies/agencies_913.html You will spend a good fraction of the day doing this (the appointment is really an appointment to sit in a waiting room, and you have to do it twice). Regards Marshall On Oct 26, 2006, at 1:07 AM, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: particularly if you are in the DC area, call your congressman's district (usually) office and ask them to send the Passport Office a congressional courtesy request. In practice, this means that you don't stand in line, but go upstairs to the diplomatic processing area, and, with proper documents and photos, you'll probably have the passport in under an hour. I believe there is also a priority program for cities that have Passport Office branches. Just one of the perks of incumbents. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto You may have heard that the US and Canada are going to start requiring passports for air travel between them beginning soon. That date is currently set as 8 Jan 2007, which is before February NANOG. MERIT has noted this on the web site, but a cursory check of my list archives didn't turn up mention of it (sorry if I overlooked it; the last couple of weeks have been hectic), so I figured I'd include the pointer: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0702/passport.html as well as a link to the State Department: http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html Normal passport processing is within six weeks, but that probably doesn't take the holiday season into account. If you don't have a passport already and plan to travel from the US to NANOG 39 in Toronto, getting on that project sometime in the next month or so would allow plenty of spare time. No reason to pay expedite fees if you don't have to. ---Rob
re: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto
http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/regional/regional_1170.html December 31, 2007 - Passport required for all land border crossings, as well as air and sea travel. If someone wants to go but does not have a passport for whatever reason, i.e. last minute travel plans, then it is possible to fly to Buffalo NY and make a land crossing from there, i.e. bus or rental car. If you do want to take a rental car across the border, you have to notify your rental company so they can issue a non-resident insurance card for you. As long as you have a US driver's licence this is fairly routine. Cross the bridge to Canada and take the QEW all the way to Toronto. http://www.buffaloairport.com/ You could do the same fly-drive via Detroit but there is a lot more driving. --Michael Dillon P.S. Now that you have your shiny new passports, don't just stop at Canada. There's a whole world out there.
Re: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto
On 26-Oct-2006, at 09:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could do the same fly-drive via Detroit but there is a lot more driving. Indeed. Rough estimates, excluding time taken to cross the border and assuming good weather: BUF to Toronto: 2 hours DTW to Toronto: 5 hours CLE to Toronto: 6 hours LGA to Toronto: 9 hours BOS to Toronto: 9 hours ORD to Toronto: 10 hours IAD to Toronto: 10 hours Joe
re: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto
At 2:26 PM +0100 10/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/regional/regional_1170.html December 31, 2007 - Passport required for all land border crossings, as well as air and sea travel. FWIW I live near the WA/BC (US/CDN) border and cross it often (at least twice a month) for both work and social activities, and have been using an expired US passport for the past two years with no issues. The Canadians never even ask for it. The US border folks occasionally hassle me a tiny bit, but never about the expired passport (go figure). The ONLY time the expired passport was an issue was on a flight, with my entire family from Seattle to Denver(!) where the TSA boarding pass ID checker in airport security nearly didn't let me through. Again, go figure. Yes, I need to renew, but as my world-travelling days for work are behind me I haven't been motivated to do so. --chuck
Re: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:19:18 -0400, Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26-Oct-2006, at 09:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could do the same fly-drive via Detroit but there is a lot more driving. Indeed. Rough estimates, excluding time taken to cross the border and assuming good weather: BUF to Toronto: 2 hours DTW to Toronto: 5 hours CLE to Toronto: 6 hours LGA to Toronto: 9 hours BOS to Toronto: 9 hours ORD to Toronto: 10 hours IAD to Toronto: 10 hours Don't neglect the border crossing delay. Driving home from Montreal after the IETF, we had to wait close to two hours because of congestion at U.S. Immigration. (Of course, that was the way home -- folks going into Canada had virtually no wait, as best we could see...) --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
RE: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto
particularly if you are in the DC area, call your congressman's district (usually) office and ask them to send the Passport Office a congressional courtesy request. In practice, this means that you don't stand in line, but go upstairs to the diplomatic processing area, and, with proper documents and photos, you'll probably have the passport in under an hour. I believe there is also a priority program for cities that have Passport Office branches. Just one of the perks of incumbents. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: passports for NANOG-39, Toronto You may have heard that the US and Canada are going to start requiring passports for air travel between them beginning soon. That date is currently set as 8 Jan 2007, which is before February NANOG. MERIT has noted this on the web site, but a cursory check of my list archives didn't turn up mention of it (sorry if I overlooked it; the last couple of weeks have been hectic), so I figured I'd include the pointer: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0702/passport.html as well as a link to the State Department: http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html Normal passport processing is within six weeks, but that probably doesn't take the holiday season into account. If you don't have a passport already and plan to travel from the US to NANOG 39 in Toronto, getting on that project sometime in the next month or so would allow plenty of spare time. No reason to pay expedite fees if you don't have to. ---Rob
