RE: amazonaws.com?
So to get Amazon to police their customers either requires regulation or an external economic pressure. Blocking AWS from folk's mail servers would apply some pressure, No it would not. That is what AWS wants you to to. making areas of the net go dark to AWS would apply more pressure faster. A considerable amount of pressure could be placed by a big enough money damages lawsuit but that has a feedback delay of months to years. And such lawsuits can go both ways. As soon as a company moves beyond protective blocking of port 25, to punitive blocking of all traffic from AWS, they run the risk of being the target of a damages lawsuit. Not to mention complaints from their own customers. There simply is no simple solution to this problem. --Michael Dillon
Re: amazonaws.com?
I'm not on the MLC (which doesn't have any community representatives on it at present) anymore. Nonetheless, I implore everyone to consider this thread dead. It's run far enough afield on speculation and analogies that I for one think it's fairly out of scope. Thanks, ---Rob
BGP Update Report
BGP Update Report Interval: 28-Apr-08 -to- 29-May-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS15169 316375 2.7%2378.8 -- GOOGLE - Google Inc. 2 - AS4538 136309 1.2% 27.7 -- ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center 3 - AS614096355 0.8% 106.2 -- IMPSAT-USA - ImpSat USA, Inc. 4 - AS949883516 0.7% 67.0 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 5 - AS22773 74090 0.6% 36.1 -- CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. 6 - AS238665395 0.6% 44.7 -- INS-AS - ATT Data Communications Services 7 - AS17974 64506 0.6% 139.0 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 8 - AS958361158 0.5% 50.7 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 9 - AS919855489 0.5% 111.4 -- KAZTELECOM-AS Kazakhtelecom Corporate Sales Administration 10 - AS701154916 0.5% 48.9 -- FRONTIER-AND-CITIZENS - Frontier Communications of America, Inc. 11 - AS651751873 0.5% 76.4 -- RELIANCEGLOBALCOM - Reliance Globalcom Services, Inc 12 - AS475549493 0.4% 29.9 -- VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System 13 - AS815148301 0.4% 38.7 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V. 14 - AS638946761 0.4% 23.0 -- BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. 15 - AS647844190 0.4% 44.9 -- ATT-INTERNET3 - ATT WorldNet Services 16 - AS11492 44091 0.4% 35.8 -- CABLEONE - CABLE ONE 17 - AS17488 43143 0.4% 37.5 -- HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over Cable Internet 18 - AS701842048 0.4% 28.7 -- ATT-INTERNET4 - ATT WorldNet Services 19 - AS24731 41096 0.4% 513.7 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) 20 - AS629841052 0.3% 53.0 -- COX-PHX - Cox Communications Inc. TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix) Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS26829 33281 0.3% 33281.0 -- YKK-USA - YKK USA,INC 2 - AS17834 12211 0.1% 12211.0 -- KYOBOAUTO-AS-KR Kyobo Auto Insurance CO.,LTD 3 - AS42787 35901 0.3% 11967.0 -- MMIP-AS MultiMedia IP Ltd. 4 - AS286467141 0.1%7141.0 -- Confederacao Interestadual das Cooperativas Ligadas ao Sicredi 5 - AS36384 18882 0.2%6294.0 -- GOOGLE-IT - Google Incorporated 6 - AS309295091 0.0%5091.0 -- HUTCB Hidrotechnical Faculty - Technical University 7 - AS403593964 0.0%3964.0 -- SOUTHEASTERNMILLS-ROME - Southeastern Mills, Inc. 8 - AS353243748 0.0%3748.0 -- ECH-WILL-AS E.C.H. Will 9 - AS16466 17907 0.1%3581.4 -- AVAYA AVAYA 10 - AS329963451 0.0%3451.0 -- AGRIBANK-STPAUL - AgriBank, FCB 11 - AS23082 17085 0.1%3417.0 -- MPHI - Michigan Public Health Institute 12 - AS299103027 0.0%3027.0 -- IACP - INTL. ASSN OF CHIEF OF POLICEI 13 - AS9122 2995 0.0%2995.0 -- TECHNOELECTROSERVIS-AS Technoelektroservis Ltd. 14 - AS105515605 0.1%2802.5 -- RAPID-CITY-REGIONAL - Rapid City Regional Hospital 15 - AS343782703 0.0%2703.0 -- RUG-AS Razgulay Group 16 - AS15169 316375 2.7%2378.8 -- GOOGLE - Google Inc. 17 - AS447302286 0.0%2286.0 -- ALFAGOMMA Alfa Gomma s.p.a. 18 - AS569129154 0.2%2242.6 -- MITRE-AS-5 - The MITRE Corporation 19 - AS353092206 0.0%2206.0 -- NERO-AG-AS Nero AG 20 - AS47212 23175 0.2%2106.8 -- UGD-AS University Goce Delcev TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name 1 - 125.23.208.0/20 37848 0.3% AS9498 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 2 - 193.33.184.0/23 35853 0.3% AS42787 -- MMIP-AS MultiMedia IP Ltd. 3 - 12.108.254.0/24 33281 0.3% AS26829 -- YKK-USA - YKK USA,INC 4 - 192.12.120.0/24 28636 0.2% AS5691 -- MITRE-AS-5 - The MITRE Corporation 5 - 221.128.192.0/18 26803 0.2% AS18231 -- EXATT-AS-AP IOL NETCOM LTD 6 - 213.91.175.0/24 17150 0.1% AS8866 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc. 7 - 210.92.148.0/24 12211 0.1% AS17834 -- KYOBOAUTO-AS-KR Kyobo Auto Insurance CO.,LTD 8 - 203.63.26.0/2410050 0.1% AS9747 -- EZINTERNET-AS-AP EZInternet Pty Ltd 9 - 193.239.114.0/24 9817 0.1% AS31003 -- IRON-MOUNTAIN-UK-AS Iron Mountain UK Ltd 10 - 221.135.230.0/23 9266 0.1% AS9583 -- SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited 11 - 84.23.102.0/24 8625 0.1% AS24731 -- ASN-NESMA National Engineering Services and Marketing Company Ltd. (NESMA) AS34400 -- ASN-ETTIHADETISALAT Etihad Etisalat 12 - 64.201.128.0/208536 0.1% AS11915 -- TELWEST-NETWORK-SVCS-STATIC - TEL WEST COMMUNICATIONS LLC 13 -
The Cidr Report
This report has been generated at Fri May 30 21:17:45 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date PrefixesCIDR Agg 23-05-08266670 167326 24-05-08266754 167382 25-05-08266501 166389 26-05-08266731 166040 27-05-08266584 166616 28-05-08266831 167687 29-05-08267378 168129 30-05-08267397 167991 AS Summary 28457 Number of ASes in routing system 11987 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 4919 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS4538 : ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center 88356864 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) AS721 : DISA-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 30May08 --- ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 266995 1680319896437.1% All ASes AS4538 4919 876 404382.2% ERX-CERNET-BKB China Education and Research Network Center AS4755 1640 218 142286.7% VSNL-AS Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Autonomous System AS6389 1994 620 137468.9% BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. AS9498 1167 67 110094.3% BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. AS22773 945 66 87993.0% CCINET-2 - Cox Communications Inc. AS18566 1044 279 76573.3% COVAD - Covad Communications Co. AS11492 1226 491 73560.0% CABLEONE - CABLE ONE AS8151 1233 506 72759.0% Uninet S.A. de C.V. AS4323 1459 741 71849.2% TWTC - Time Warner Telecom, Inc. AS1785 1022 323 69968.4% AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec Communications, Inc. AS17488 1073 375 69865.1% HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over Cable Internet AS19262 898 205 69377.2% VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon Internet Services Inc. AS2386 1439 886 55338.4% INS-AS - ATT Data Communications Services AS6478 948 409 53956.9% ATT-INTERNET3 - ATT WorldNet Services AS19916 638 119 51981.3% ASTRUM-0001 - OLM LLC AS18101 686 186 50072.9% RIL-IDC Reliance Infocom Ltd Internet Data Centre, AS4766 878 391 48755.5% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS7011 1076 604 47243.9% FRONTIER-AND-CITIZENS - Frontier Communications of America, Inc. AS4134 825 381 44453.8% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS17676 525 83 44284.2% GIGAINFRA BB TECHNOLOGY Corp. AS855597 165 43272.4% CANET-ASN-4 - Bell Aliant AS6197 1007 591 41641.3% BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS4668 675 272 40359.7% LGNET-AS-KR LG CNS AS7018 1396 997 39928.6% ATT-INTERNET4 - ATT WorldNet Services AS22047 565 169 39670.1% VTR BANDA ANCHA S.A. AS9443 467 85 38281.8% INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications AS3602 455 80 37582.4% AS3602-RTI - Rogers Telecom Inc. AS4808 521 147 37471.8% CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP network China169 Beijing Province Network AS7029 554 183 37167.0% WINDSTREAM - Windstream Communications Inc AS16814 426 66 36084.5% NSS
Power/temperature monitoring
Hopefully monitoring the status of a network is on-topic. I'm looking for temperature and power monitoring unit to install in some remote BWA cabinets. We had two incidents where we lost power in a town and we weren't aware of it until the backup batter drained to empty, and another situation where the cabinet became too cold. Because these cabinets are less than 19 wide and just 3-5 deep, I need something quite small. I did find one product but it requires four components (unit with built-in temperature sensor, adapter, and AC power sensor, plus power supply) Perhaps there's someone on this list who has gone down this road and can point me to a good product. Required: - temperature sensor - 110 VAC power monitoring (on/off, not necessarily current) - Ethernet interface (at least SNMP, Web GUI and Optional: - fed via 12 VDC power - 12 VDC power monitoring (current) - humidity sensor Frank
Re: Power/temperature monitoring
http://akcp.com/company/sensorProbe8.htm Everything you need. Jeremy On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:58 -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: Hopefully monitoring the status of a network is on-topic. I'm looking for temperature and power monitoring unit to install in some remote BWA cabinets. We had two incidents where we lost power in a town and we weren't aware of it until the backup batter drained to empty, and another situation where the cabinet became too cold. Because these cabinets are less than 19 wide and just 3-5 deep, I need something quite small. I did find one product but it requires four components (unit with built-in temperature sensor, adapter, and AC power sensor, plus power supply) Perhaps there's someone on this list who has gone down this road and can point me to a good product. Required: - temperature sensor - 110 VAC power monitoring (on/off, not necessarily current) - Ethernet interface (at least SNMP, Web GUI and Optional: - fed via 12 VDC power - 12 VDC power monitoring (current) - humidity sensor Frank
Re: Power/temperature monitoring
At 10:58 AM 5/30/2008, Frank Bulk wrote: Required: - temperature sensor - 110 VAC power monitoring (on/off, not necessarily current) - Ethernet interface (at least SNMP, Web GUI and We have been using Uptime Devices. Our units have room for 3 sensors (we have 2 temp and one for humidity). Web, SNMP, ethernet, external AC power blob. Its a fairly small form factor and it has been reliable for us over the years. Alerts work as expected and havent had any false positives either over the years. ---Mike
Re: Power/temperature monitoring
We used an Uptime Device and it didn't work out too well. We switched to an AKCP SensorProbe8-60 http://www.akcp.com/company/sensorProbe8X60.htm which has worked out better. We need a lot of dry contacts to monitor our alarm relays (Cisco ONS15454, Taqua T7000, Liebert HVACs, Generator, Fire Suppression, etc, etc...) On May 30, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: At 10:58 AM 5/30/2008, Frank Bulk wrote: Required: - temperature sensor - 110 VAC power monitoring (on/off, not necessarily current) - Ethernet interface (at least SNMP, Web GUI and We have been using Uptime Devices. Our units have room for 3 sensors (we have 2 temp and one for humidity). Web, SNMP, ethernet, external AC power blob. Its a fairly small form factor and it has been reliable for us over the years. Alerts work as expected and havent had any false positives either over the years. ---Mike
[NANOG-announce] New NANOG Mail List Committee
Hi everyone, In its recent meeting, the SC selected four volunteers from the community to join Sue Joiner of Merit on the Mail List Committee. The new team is as follows: Sue Joiner (appointed by Merit) Simon Lyall (term finishes in October 2009) Kris Foster (term finishes in October 2009) David Barak (term finishes in October 2008) Tim Yocum (term finishes in October 2008) The SC would like to thank the four successful volunteers for their willingness to contribute their time and energy to assist with supporting the NANOG mail list. The SC also would like to thank Michael K Smith, John Osman and Alex Pilosov for also stepping forward and offering to help. We hope you will be willing to volunteer again when two positions on the MLC become available in October. Kind regards, Philip Smith SC Chair -- ___ NANOG-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-announce
Re: Power/temperature monitoring
We've got a couple of the (beta test) mini goose climate monitors installed. Takes up less space than the big APC boxes we've been using. http://www.itwatchdogs.com/ --Chris
RE: Power/temperature monitoring
Do you know if they have a AC power probe? Frank -Original Message- From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:28 AM To: Mike Tancsa; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Power/temperature monitoring We've started using ControlByWeb, specifically http://www.controlbyweb.com/temperature/index.html .. POE, and handles four probes. We just don't use their probes, we buy them elsewhere (it's plain old one wire). -Original Message- From: Mike Tancsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Power/temperature monitoring At 10:58 AM 5/30/2008, Frank Bulk wrote: Required: - temperature sensor - 110 VAC power monitoring (on/off, not necessarily current) - Ethernet interface (at least SNMP, Web GUI and We have been using Uptime Devices. Our units have room for 3 sensors (we have 2 temp and one for humidity). Web, SNMP, ethernet, external AC power blob. Its a fairly small form factor and it has been reliable for us over the years. Alerts work as expected and havent had any false positives either over the years. ---Mike
RE: Power/temperature monitoring
I agree with Chris -- we also have been using the ITWatchDogs products for years, and both the products and company have been wonderful to work with. Tony Patti CIO S. Walter Packaging Corp. -Original Message- From: Chris Boyd Sent: 5/30/2008 11:40 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Power/temperature monitoring We've got a couple of the (beta test) mini goose climate monitors installed. Takes up less space than the big APC boxes we've been using. http://www.itwatchdogs.com/ --Chris
Need Infiniband card recommendation
Is anyone using Infiniband cards under linux? I'm trying to find a supported card other than the Cisco one. -- Jobe Bittman
Re: Need Infiniband card recommendation
try http://www.mellanox.com/ On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Jobe Bittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using Infiniband cards under linux? I'm trying to find a supported card other than the Cisco one. -- Jobe Bittman
Re: Need Infiniband card recommendation
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:24:28AM -0700, Jobe Bittman wrote: Is anyone using Infiniband cards under linux? I'm trying to find a supported card other than the Cisco one. Whats wrong with the cisco ones? We're using their DDR ones here under Ubuntu 7.10 and haven't experienced any issues. They appear to be just 'Mellanox Technologies MT25208 InfiniHost III Ex' though.. best wishes
Large number of DNS probes in last 24 hours
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've seen a surprising number of attempted recursive DNS requests against unpublished non-recursive DNS servers in the last 24 hours or so, many of them obviously probes of some sort (query for . IN NS, eg). Is anyone else seeing this? Is it new? Or did some botnet just reach this corner of the IP space? - -- Jim Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (NetBSD) iD8DBQFIQDPbq/KRbT0KwbwRAuzVAJ0QRpMw59U7U2qfpEdHOeIt+YVzxgCeLQK4 0HeEYDsVW4VI6ahbjE8xphQ= =QV9h -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Large number of DNS probes in last 24 hours
Jim Wise wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've seen a surprising number of attempted recursive DNS requests against unpublished non-recursive DNS servers in the last 24 hours or so, many of them obviously probes of some sort (query for . IN NS, eg). Is anyone else seeing this? Is it new? Or did some botnet just reach this corner of the IP space? Yes, no, and yes. I've seen this sort of thing severe enough that I simply took the servers down for a day (yes, really), even considering the severe inconvenience that caused. -- Die Gedanken sind frei
Re: Large number of DNS probes in last 24 hours
I have seen this as well on my fringe IP-space networks. Just a botnet or two running along the range. A cost of doing business :\ John Menerick http://icehax.us On May 30, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Lynda wrote: Jim Wise wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've seen a surprising number of attempted recursive DNS requests against unpublished non-recursive DNS servers in the last 24 hours or so, many of them obviously probes of some sort (query for . IN NS, eg). Is anyone else seeing this? Is it new? Or did some botnet just reach this corner of the IP space? Yes, no, and yes. I've seen this sort of thing severe enough that I simply took the servers down for a day (yes, really), even considering the severe inconvenience that caused. -- Die Gedanken sind frei
cluepon irrweb.com
anyone know whats going on with this - still a work in progress? plans/etc?
Re: Large number of DNS probes in last 24 hours
Jim Wise wrote: I've seen a surprising number of attempted recursive DNS requests against unpublished non-recursive DNS servers in the last 24 hours or so, many of them obviously probes of some sort (query for . IN NS, eg). Is anyone else seeing this? Is it new? Or did some botnet just reach this corner of the IP space? I have seen PlanetLab experiments doing this. What are the originating IP addresses? Mikal