Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Franck Martin
You need all to be part of the same Ethernet network. So if this UTM can act as 
a bridge/switch you should be ok. Otherwise the RA broadcasts need to reach 
your device so it guesses the network and add it's Mac address to the network 
and make an ipv6 address.

I would say RA is a bit like DHCP in your case in terms of network topology but 
beside that RA is simpler (no leases table).

Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question

On 15/10/2010, at 17:49, Rod James Bio rju...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
   First time poster here. I would just like to ask what are the flags on
 router advertisement to enable a host to autoconfigure its IPv6 address.
 There is this device that I'm configuring that I cant get RA to work. I was
 able to work out the connectivity from the device to the IPv6 internet, but
 the problem is host behind this device is not getting its unique global ipv6
 address. The device is a cyberoam UTM.
 
 Thanks! Rod Bio.



Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Rod James Bio
That's my setup right now. The problem is the machine is not configuring its
IPv6 address with RA already turned on. I'm guessing that the flag set on
the UTM router advertisement messages is wrong. May I know the default flags
use on a cisco router? Thanks.

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote:

 You need all to be part of the same Ethernet network. So if this UTM can
 act as a bridge/switch you should be ok. Otherwise the RA broadcasts need to
 reach your device so it guesses the network and add it's Mac address to the
 network and make an ipv6 address.

 I would say RA is a bit like DHCP in your case in terms of network topology
 but beside that RA is simpler (no leases table).

 Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question

 On 15/10/2010, at 17:49, Rod James Bio rju...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
 
First time poster here. I would just like to ask what are the flags on
  router advertisement to enable a host to autoconfigure its IPv6 address.
  There is this device that I'm configuring that I cant get RA to work. I
 was
  able to work out the connectivity from the device to the IPv6 internet,
 but
  the problem is host behind this device is not getting its unique global
 ipv6
  address. The device is a cyberoam UTM.
 
  Thanks! Rod Bio.



Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Rod James Bio wrote:


That's my setup right now. The problem is the machine is not configuring its
IPv6 address with RA already turned on. I'm guessing that the flag set on
the UTM router advertisement messages is wrong. May I know the default flags
use on a cisco router? Thanks.


The default is that M and O bits are off, ie hosts should do SLAAC and 
there is no DHCPv6 info to be had.


--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se



Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Franck Martin
I have seen layer 2 devices not forwarding IPv6 packets (while forwarding IPv4 
packets)...

I would put a packet capture, and see if I see the RA packets coming from the 
router.

On a Cisco router, RA is enabled by default and does not require any setting.

- Original Message -
From: Rod James Bio rju...@gmail.com
To: Franck Martin fra...@genius.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, 15 October, 2010 7:11:07 PM
Subject: Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

That's my setup right now. The problem is the machine is not configuring its 
IPv6 address with RA already turned on. I'm guessing that the flag set on the 
UTM router advertisement messages is wrong. May I know the default flags use on 
a cisco router? Thanks. 


On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Franck Martin  fra...@genius.com  wrote: 


You need all to be part of the same Ethernet network. So if this UTM can act as 
a bridge/switch you should be ok. Otherwise the RA broadcasts need to reach 
your device so it guesses the network and add it's Mac address to the network 
and make an ipv6 address. 

I would say RA is a bit like DHCP in your case in terms of network topology but 
beside that RA is simpler (no leases table). 

Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question 




On 15/10/2010, at 17:49, Rod James Bio  rju...@gmail.com  wrote: 

 Hi, 
 
 First time poster here. I would just like to ask what are the flags on 
 router advertisement to enable a host to autoconfigure its IPv6 address. 
 There is this device that I'm configuring that I cant get RA to work. I was 
 able to work out the connectivity from the device to the IPv6 internet, but 
 the problem is host behind this device is not getting its unique global ipv6 
 address. The device is a cyberoam UTM. 
 
 Thanks! Rod Bio. 




Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Zhao Ping
Pay attention to the special layer 2 multicast address for the RA packet.


On 10/15/10 3:21 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote:

I have seen layer 2 devices not forwarding IPv6 packets (while forwarding
IPv4 packets)...

I would put a packet capture, and see if I see the RA packets coming from
the router.

On a Cisco router, RA is enabled by default and does not require any
setting.

- Original Message -
From: Rod James Bio rju...@gmail.com
To: Franck Martin fra...@genius.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, 15 October, 2010 7:11:07 PM
Subject: Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

That's my setup right now. The problem is the machine is not configuring
its IPv6 address with RA already turned on. I'm guessing that the flag
set on the UTM router advertisement messages is wrong. May I know the
default flags use on a cisco router? Thanks.


On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Franck Martin  fra...@genius.com 
wrote: 


You need all to be part of the same Ethernet network. So if this UTM can
act as a bridge/switch you should be ok. Otherwise the RA broadcasts need
to reach your device so it guesses the network and add it's Mac address
to the network and make an ipv6 address.

I would say RA is a bit like DHCP in your case in terms of network
topology but beside that RA is simpler (no leases table).

Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question




On 15/10/2010, at 17:49, Rod James Bio  rju...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 First time poster here. I would just like to ask what are the flags on
 router advertisement to enable a host to autoconfigure its IPv6
address. 
 There is this device that I'm configuring that I cant get RA to work. I
was 
 able to work out the connectivity from the device to the IPv6 internet,
but 
 the problem is host behind this device is not getting its unique global
ipv6 
 address. The device is a cyberoam UTM.
 
 Thanks! Rod Bio.








Re: IPv6 Stateless Configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Rod James Bio
Got it now. The preferredlifetime should be less than the value of the
validlifetime option. Thanks BTW! :D

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.sewrote:

 On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Rod James Bio wrote:

  That's my setup right now. The problem is the machine is not configuring
 its
 IPv6 address with RA already turned on. I'm guessing that the flag set on
 the UTM router advertisement messages is wrong. May I know the default
 flags
 use on a cisco router? Thanks.


 The default is that M and O bits are off, ie hosts should do SLAAC and
 there is no DHCPv6 info to be had.

 --
 Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se



Re: MsgSent statistics question

2010-10-15 Thread isabel dias
http://hen.cs.ucl.ac.uk/library/hardware/routers/procket/20fcs/routing_protocols/bgp.verify19.html



http://www.inetdaemon.com/tutorials/internet/ip/routing/bgp/operation/finite_state_model.shtml


http://www.cymru.com/Documents/barry2.pdf

I would check the latest version of the RFC and also the IOS/BGP version you 
are 
running..



From: Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com
To: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 12:12:10 AM
Subject: MsgSent statistics question

I am trying to troubleshoot an odd v6 peering connection issue. Does anyone
know at what point is MsgSent in BGP summary or neighbor summary calculated?
Does the MsgSent include initial TCP connections before establishment?

Thanks,
Zaid





Weekly Routing Table Report

2010-10-15 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet
Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan.

The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG,
CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group.

Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net.

If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith p...@cisco.com.

Routing Table Report   04:00 +10GMT Sat 16 Oct, 2010

Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net
Detailed Analysis:  http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/

Analysis Summary


BGP routing table entries examined:  333673
Prefixes after maximum aggregation:  153173
Deaggregation factor:  2.18
Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 163976
Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 34973
Prefixes per ASN:  9.54
Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:   30332
Origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   14721
Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4641
Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:102
Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table:   3.6
Max AS path length visible:  24
Max AS path prepend of ASN (41664)   21
Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table:   334
Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 124
Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs:819
Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table:1161
Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table:0
Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space:216
Number of addresses announced to Internet:   2280874400
Equivalent to 135 /8s, 243 /16s and 97 /24s
Percentage of available address space announced:   61.5
Percentage of allocated address space announced:   65.7
Percentage of available address space allocated:   93.7
Percentage of address space in use by end-sites:   85.3
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations:  137157

APNIC Region Analysis Summary
-

Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes:81624
Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation:   27931
APNIC Deaggregation factor:2.92
Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks:   78535
Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks:34462
APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:4204
APNIC Prefixes per ASN:   18.68
APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:   1175
APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:644
Average APNIC Region AS path length visible:3.7
Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 16
Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet:  551962912
Equivalent to 32 /8s, 230 /16s and 73 /24s
Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 78.3

APNIC AS Blocks4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431
(pre-ERX allocations)  23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079
   55296-56319, 131072-132095
APNIC Address Blocks 1/8,  14/8,  27/8,  43/8,  49/8,  58/8,  59/8,
60/8,  61/8, 101/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8,
   114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8,
   121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8,
   175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8,
   211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8,
  

ARIN Region Analysis Summary


Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes:136292
Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation:70287
ARIN Deaggregation factor: 1.94
Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks:   108891
Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 43464
ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:13949
ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 7.81
ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix:5337
ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table:1381
Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.4
Max ARIN Region AS path length visible:   

Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Zaid Ali
SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126. A
/126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there is
some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.

Zaid





Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2010-10-15 21:26, Zaid Ali wrote:
 SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
 some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126. A
 /126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there is
 some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.

You mean to say that a /126 is 'small' actually as it is only
2^(128-126) = 2^2 = 4 IP addresses while a /64 is..

For this discussion, please go through the archives.

In short: Personal preference of operators involved.

Greets,
 Jeroen



Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Scott Howard
http://www.google.com/search?q=nanog+126+64 would be a good place to
start...

(And I'm guessing you mean that /64 is awfully large, not /126)

  Scott.


On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:

 SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
 some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126.
 A
 /126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there
 is
 some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.

 Zaid






Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 15/10/2010 20:26, Zaid Ali wrote:
 SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
 some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126. A
 /126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there is
 some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.

There are 4 general choices of netmask for ipv6 point to point interface
numbering schemes:

/64: the default ipv4 subnet.  many people feel that this is a waste of
addressing space.  others feel that there is so much ipv6 address space out
there that it's simpler to keep all interfaces on /64.

/112: /112 is 16-bit aligned, which means that it's easy to read because 16
bits implies that the last 4 octets are link-specific.  Also, your entire
PoP point-to-point addressing scheme can be held within a single /64, which
means good address conservation

/126: this is the same as we use in ipv4: it's less easy to read, as the
link-specific digits are not octet-aligned.  Your entire PoP point-to-point
addressing scheme can be held within a single /64, which means good address
conservation

/127: this is used on POS links where there is no link-layer address
resolution protocol available (like ARP/ND) and consequently you can end up
with unknown traffic looping between each side if you're not careful.

None of these is the right or the wrong approach, unless you're using
POS/STM.  Otherwise all of them have their merits and demerits.

Nick



Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Zaid Ali
Bahh had my head turned around and brain fried on a Friday. I was more
curious about /64 vs /126 from management perspective. Thanks everyone for
answering offline as well, I got my questions answered.

Zaid


On 10/15/10 12:26 PM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:

 SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
 some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126. A
 /126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there is
 some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.
 
 Zaid
 
 
 





BGP Update Report

2010-10-15 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report
Interval: 07-Oct-10 -to- 14-Oct-10 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072

TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS731526671  2.8% 398.1 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
 2 - AS947625085  2.6%8361.7 -- INTRAPOWER-AS-AP IntraPower 
Pty. Ltd.
 3 - AS32528   16777  1.8%8388.5 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 4 - AS815116633  1.8%   8.0 -- Uninet S.A. de C.V.
 5 - AS580015094  1.6%  74.0 -- DNIC-ASBLK-05800-06055 - DoD 
Network Information Center
 6 - AS553614977  1.6% 220.2 -- Internet-Egypt
 7 - AS33363   13794  1.4% 160.4 -- BHN-TAMPA - BRIGHT HOUSE 
NETWORKS, LLC
 8 - AS755213058  1.4%  42.3 -- VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel Corporation
 9 - AS346413011  1.4% 289.1 -- ASC-NET - Alabama Supercomputer 
Network
10 - AS35931   12719  1.3%4239.7 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
11 - AS8452 8376  0.9%   9.4 -- TE-AS TE-AS
12 - AS6517 7978  0.8%  57.4 -- RELIANCEGLOBALCOM - Reliance 
Globalcom Services, Inc
13 - AS3816 7655  0.8%  29.7 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
14 - AS144207590  0.8%  14.0 -- CORPORACION NACIONAL DE 
TELECOMUNICACIONES - CNT EP
15 - AS145226366  0.7%  33.9 -- Satnet
16 - AS210176326  0.7% 632.6 -- VSI-AS VSI AS
17 - AS178195835  0.6% 114.4 -- ASN-EQUINIX-AP Equinix Asia 
Pacific
18 - AS190295651  0.6%   5.0 -- NEWEDGENETS - New Edge Networks
19 - AS9829 5493  0.6%  18.0 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet 
Backbone
20 - AS123325295  0.6%  86.8 -- PRIMORYE-AS Open Joint Stock 
Company Far East Telecommunications Company


TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix)
Rank ASNUpds %  Upds/PfxAS-Name
 1 - AS32528   16777  1.8%8388.5 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 2 - AS947625085  2.6%8361.7 -- INTRAPOWER-AS-AP IntraPower 
Pty. Ltd.
 3 - AS227534662  0.5%4662.0 -- REDHAT-STUTTGART REDHAT 
Stuttgart
 4 - AS35931   12719  1.3%4239.7 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
 5 - AS17904 866  0.1% 866.0 -- SLTASUL-LK Sri Lankan Airlines
 6 - AS210176326  0.7% 632.6 -- VSI-AS VSI AS
 7 - AS24035 593  0.1% 593.0 -- MOFA-AS-VN Ministry of Foreign 
Affairs of Vietnam - MOFA
 8 - AS11613 539  0.1% 539.0 -- U-SAVE - U-Save Auto Rental of 
America, Inc.
 9 - AS43058 473  0.1% 473.0 -- SKLEPY-KOMFORT-ASN Sklepy 
Komfort S.A.
10 - AS27027 432  0.1% 432.0 -- ANBELL ASN-ANBELL
11 - AS9556 1645  0.2% 411.2 -- ADAM-AS-AP Adam Internet Pty Ltd
12 - AS731526671  2.8% 398.1 -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
13 - AS4862 1982  0.2% 396.4 -- EQUANT-ASIA Equant AS for Asian 
Region covering Japan
14 - AS55311 382  0.0% 382.0 -- LIENVIETBANK-AS-VN LienViet 
Joint Stock Commercial Bank
15 - AS281752163  0.2% 360.5 -- 
16 - AS181631420  0.1% 355.0 -- JINJU18163-AS-KR jinju national 
university
17 - AS11868 342  0.0% 342.0 -- CRUZAZUL-NET - La Cruz Azul de 
Puerto Rico, Inc.
18 - AS104451684  0.2% 336.8 -- HTG - Huntleigh Telcom
19 - AS16416 336  0.0% 336.0 -- MYCOMAX
20 - AS4033  333  0.0% 333.0 -- TACASN - 754th Electronic 
Systems Group


TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name
 1 - 203.1.14.0/24 13771  1.3%   AS9476  -- INTRAPOWER-AS-AP IntraPower 
Pty. Ltd.
 2 - 203.1.13.0/24 11313  1.1%   AS9476  -- INTRAPOWER-AS-AP IntraPower 
Pty. Ltd.
 3 - 130.36.34.0/24 8389  0.8%   AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 4 - 130.36.35.0/24 8388  0.8%   AS32528 -- ABBOTT Abbot Labs
 5 - 63.211.68.0/22 8103  0.8%   AS35931 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
 6 - 76.74.88.0/23  7381  0.7%   AS6517  -- RELIANCEGLOBALCOM - Reliance 
Globalcom Services, Inc
 7 - 129.66.128.0/176457  0.6%   AS3464  -- ASC-NET - Alabama Supercomputer 
Network
 8 - 129.66.0.0/17  6445  0.6%   AS3464  -- ASC-NET - Alabama Supercomputer 
Network
 9 - 72.31.122.0/24 6385  0.6%   AS33363 -- BHN-TAMPA - BRIGHT HOUSE 
NETWORKS, LLC
10 - 72.31.98.0/24  6326  0.6%   AS33363 -- BHN-TAMPA - BRIGHT HOUSE 
NETWORKS, LLC
11 - 201.134.18.0/245901  0.6%   AS8151  -- Uninet S.A. de C.V.
12 - 190.65.228.0/225757  0.6%   AS3816  -- COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES 
S.A. ESP
13 - 66.187.234.0/244662  0.5%   AS22753 -- REDHAT-STUTTGART REDHAT 
Stuttgart
14 - 198.140.43.0/244606  0.4%   AS35931 -- ARCHIPELAGO - ARCHIPELAGO 
HOLDINGS INC
15 - 95.32.192.0/18 3254  0.3%   AS21017 -- VSI-AS VSI AS
16 - 95.32.128.0/18 3056  0.3%   AS21017 -- VSI-AS VSI AS
17 - 

The Cidr Report

2010-10-15 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 15 21:11:45 2010 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.

Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report.

Recent Table History
Date  PrefixesCIDR Agg
08-10-10338202  209571
09-10-10338249  209643
10-10-10338190  209887
11-10-10338445  210633
12-10-10338652  210524
13-10-10338465  209416
14-10-10338701  209568
15-10-10338841  210541


AS Summary
 35645  Number of ASes in routing system
 15190  Number of ASes announcing only one prefix
  4488  Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS
AS4323 : TWTC - tw telecom holdings, inc.
  96837888  Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s)
AS4134 : CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street


Aggregation Summary
The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only
when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as 
to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also
proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes').

 --- 15Oct10 ---
ASnumNetsNow NetsAggr  NetGain   % Gain   Description

Table 338934   210402   12853237.9%   All ASes

AS6389  3770  283 348792.5%   BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK -
   BellSouth.net Inc.
AS4323  4488 1979 250955.9%   TWTC - tw telecom holdings,
   inc.
AS19262 1777  279 149884.3%   VZGNI-TRANSIT - Verizon Online
   LLC
AS22773 1205   66 113994.5%   ASN-CXA-ALL-CCI-22773-RDC -
   Cox Communications Inc.
AS4755  1373  283 109079.4%   TATACOMM-AS TATA
   Communications formerly VSNL
   is Leading ISP
AS17488 1364  324 104076.2%   HATHWAY-NET-AP Hathway IP Over
   Cable Internet
AS4766  1872  866 100653.7%   KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom
AS6478  1384  385  99972.2%   ATT-INTERNET3 - ATT Services,
   Inc.
AS5668  1057   94  96391.1%   AS-5668 - CenturyTel Internet
   Holdings, Inc.
AS18566 1088  193  89582.3%   COVAD - Covad Communications
   Co.
AS10620 1332  469  86364.8%   Telmex Colombia S.A.
AS1785  1798 1015  78343.5%   AS-PAETEC-NET - PaeTec
   Communications, Inc.
AS7545  1421  707  71450.2%   TPG-INTERNET-AP TPG Internet
   Pty Ltd
AS7303   831  119  71285.7%   Telecom Argentina S.A.
AS4808   977  318  65967.5%   CHINA169-BJ CNCGROUP IP
   network China169 Beijing
   Province Network
AS33363 1393  737  65647.1%   BHN-TAMPA - BRIGHT HOUSE
   NETWORKS, LLC
AS8151  1339  692  64748.3%   Uninet S.A. de C.V.
AS18101  888  249  63972.0%   RELIANCE-COMMUNICATIONS-IN
   Reliance Communications
   Ltd.DAKC MUMBAI
AS8452   984  374  61062.0%   TE-AS TE-AS
AS28573 1182  634  54846.4%   NET Servicos de Comunicao S.A.
AS11492 1235  688  54744.3%   CABLEONE - CABLE ONE, INC.
AS7552   642  102  54084.1%   VIETEL-AS-AP Vietel
   Corporation
AS4780   709  184  52574.0%   SEEDNET Digital United Inc.
AS17676  607   83  52486.3%   GIGAINFRA Softbank BB Corp.
AS7018  1463  940  52335.7%   ATT-INTERNET4 - ATT Services,
   Inc.
AS24560 1020  507  51350.3%   AIRTELBROADBAND-AS-AP Bharti
   Airtel Ltd., Telemedia
   Services
AS9443   575   75  50087.0%   INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus
   Telecommunications
AS7011  1156  668  48842.2%   FRONTIER-AND-CITIZENS -
   Frontier Communications of
   America, Inc.
AS22047  559   82  47785.3%   VTR BANDA ANCHA S.A.
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Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Mark Smith
Hi,

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:26:13 -0700
Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:

 SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
 some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126. A
 /126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there is
 some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.
 

If you're not going to follow the IPv6 Addressing Architecture, which
says /64s for everything, then the prefix length decision is
pretty much arbitrary - there is nothing that special
about /112s, /126s, /127s or /128s (or /120s or /80s) - they all break
something in the existing IPv6 RFCs so once you've passed that threshold
then you're really only choosing your poison. If you're going to go
down that latter path, I'd suggest reserving a /64 for each link, and
then using a longer prefix length out of that /64 when you configure
the addressing, to make it easier if you decided to change back to /64s
at a later time.

Regards,
Mark.



Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Franck Martin
but then, can't we use ip unumbered on p2p links on cisco?

- Original Message -
From: Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org
To: Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com
Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, 16 October, 2010 10:21:03 AM
Subject: Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

Hi,

On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:26:13 -0700
Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:

 SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
 some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126. A
 /126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there is
 some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.
 

If you're not going to follow the IPv6 Addressing Architecture, which
says /64s for everything, then the prefix length decision is
pretty much arbitrary - there is nothing that special
about /112s, /126s, /127s or /128s (or /120s or /80s) - they all break
something in the existing IPv6 RFCs so once you've passed that threshold
then you're really only choosing your poison. If you're going to go
down that latter path, I'd suggest reserving a /64 for each link, and
then using a longer prefix length out of that /64 when you configure
the addressing, to make it easier if you decided to change back to /64s
at a later time.

Regards,
Mark.




Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:51:03 +1030
 From: Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org
 
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:26:13 -0700
 Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:
 
  SO I have been turning up v6 with multiple providers now and notice that
  some choose /64 for numbering interfaces but one I came across use a /126. A
  /126 is awfully large (for interface numbering) and I am curious if there is
  some rationale behind using a /126 instead of a /64.
  
 
 If you're not going to follow the IPv6 Addressing Architecture, which
 says /64s for everything, then the prefix length decision is
 pretty much arbitrary - there is nothing that special
 about /112s, /126s, /127s or /128s (or /120s or /80s) - they all break
 something in the existing IPv6 RFCs so once you've passed that threshold
 then you're really only choosing your poison. If you're going to go
 down that latter path, I'd suggest reserving a /64 for each link, and
 then using a longer prefix length out of that /64 when you configure
 the addressing, to make it easier if you decided to change back to /64s
 at a later time.

If you listen to the NANOG debate on IPv6 on P2P links, you will
discover that the participants (Igor of Yahoo and Rob Seastrom of
Affilias) agreed that the proper way to do this was to allocate a /64
for the link but to configure it as a /127. This was to avoid ping-pong
DOS attacks.

I believe that the session has already been cited, but see Igor's
presentation at:
http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog48/presentations/Tuesday/Gashinsky_LinkNumb_N48.pdf
-- 
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Media Sentry Contact

2010-10-15 Thread David Hooton
Does anyone have a working and responsive contact for the Media Sentry team 
that send copyright notices?

I've been trying to contact them for about 6 months regarding an operational 
issue using all the contact information in their emails, but they clearly don't 
want any assistance because they have never responded to my emails.

Kind Regards,
 
David Hooton
Managing Director
Platform Networks
www.platformnetworks.net




12 years ago today...

2010-10-15 Thread Rodney Joffe

On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh

http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html



Re: 12 years ago today...

2010-10-15 Thread Jorge Amodio
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe rjo...@centergate.com wrote:
 On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh

 http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html

Amen. Long Live Jon Postel !!



Re: 12 years ago today...

2010-10-15 Thread Zaid Ali

On 10/15/10 8:38 PM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Rodney Joffe rjo...@centergate.com wrote:
 On October 16th, we lost a real friend and hero. Sigh
 
 http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.html
 
 Amen. Long Live Jon Postel !!
 

And you can sometimes hear his comments http://www.facebook.com/jon.postel
:)