Re: Switches Configuration
Sweet :) really helpful sometimes. By the way, it's Avaya now not Nortel. keep up with the good work On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:23 PM, sharon saadon sharon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, An online Config generator for juniper Nortel and Cisco Switches ( My Develop :) ) You can see it at - http://www.sharontools.com/tools/ConfigGenerator/ConfigGenerator.php Sharon -- Ricardo Ferreira
wikileaks unreachable
anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? randy
Re: wikileaks unreachable
They twittered earlier claiming ddos. http://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks/status/8920530488926208 We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack. horse firmly bolted though, The Guardian, NYT etc all have copies apparently. thanks Andrew On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? randy
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has Reported they were under attack: http://bgg.lv/h2pmsd
Re: wikileaks unreachable
I heard there are DDoS attacks on the Wikileaks site. Zaid On 11/28/10 1:34 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? randy
Re: wikileaks unreachable
My guess would be that it is busy. Don't know bout your region but au way it has been on the news a bit. M On 29/11/2010, at 8:35, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? randy
Re: wikileaks unreachable
I'm surprised it took this long for the DDoS train to pull into the station. Jeff On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:38 PM, James Downs e...@egon.cc wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has Reported they were under attack: http://bgg.lv/h2pmsd -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
RE: experience with equinix exchange
Would it be fair to say they run most of the peering points within the States? I find that peering within Europe is much more open than in the States. Does the group feel that is because most of the exchange points are run as nonprofits? -Original Message- From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@seven.com] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:48 AM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange I haven't had any specific problems with them but they are a bit retentive when it comes to doing certain things. There was the RMA module that arrived one day. You have to initiate a shipping ticket when you think something might arrive. In other words, you must open a ticket with them BEFORE something arrives there which can sometimes be a bit difficult when you are building out a new facility as you have no idea who is going to ship what when. They have eased up on that a little in the past few months, at least at 11 Great Oaks. Not a showstopper, just a bit of a pain in the hips, one more little thing that needs doing and is easily overlooked. After I replaced that module I went to drop it off at the shipping area, it came with a return shipper so there wasn't really anything needed beyond them handing the box to the UPS guy next time he came by ... another remote hands ticket required for me to hand them a box and for them to hand the box to someone else. I suppose I could have dropped it off myself at a UPS bin on the way home. BUT, I am overall very pleased with the facility and the operation. There are little quirky things that make it somewhat of a pain but in my experience each provider has their own quirks. At least I can take my modules in there in the cardboard box, unlike Savvis at 4700 Old Ironsides where they have a box cop who won't allow a speck of cardboard past the sign-in window. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 PM To: Robert E. Seastrom; Justin Horstman Cc: Mehmet Akcin; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to going into at least 4 of their centers. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM To: Justin Horstman Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of what layer 8 and 9 means. Fly Fast, -r Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com writes: 8 users 9 politics and policies -Original Message- From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange What are the layer 8-9 issues? Drive Slow, Paul Wall On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote: Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if people really love or hate it. -shac Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and layer9 seem the lacking part which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they seem to be the largest IX per https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they are reliable. mehmet
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On 11/28/2010 4:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? randy Good riddance. The sooner someone gives Julian Assange 230gr of shut the f*** up, the better.
Re: wikileaks unreachable
better late than never -- Sent from my Nokia N900 using Nokia Messaging - Original message - I'm surprised it took this long for the DDoS train to pull into the station. Jeff On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:38 PM, James Downs e...@egon.cc wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has Reported they were under attack: http://bgg.lv/h2pmsd -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:43 -0500, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: I'm surprised it took this long for the DDoS train to pull into the station. Wikileaks gets DDoSed all the time. My understanding is that PRQ nullrouted the IP because the DDoS is much larger this time. William
Re: wikileaks unreachable
I wouldn't have thought that PRQ would have any significant protection in place. Jeff On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:03 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:43 -0500, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: I'm surprised it took this long for the DDoS train to pull into the station. Wikileaks gets DDoSed all the time. My understanding is that PRQ nullrouted the IP because the DDoS is much larger this time. William -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions
RE: experience with equinix exchange
According to pch they don't run most of them. I would say they run very few compared to how many there actually are. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 21:45:28 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange Would it be fair to say they run most of the peering points within the States? I find that peering within Europe is much more open than in the States. Does the group feel that is because most of the exchange points are run as nonprofits? -Original Message- From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@seven.com] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:48 AM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange I haven't had any specific problems with them but they are a bit retentive when it comes to doing certain things. There was the RMA module that arrived one day. You have to initiate a shipping ticket when you think something might arrive. In other words, you must open a ticket with them BEFORE something arrives there which can sometimes be a bit difficult when you are building out a new facility as you have no idea who is going to ship what when. They have eased up on that a little in the past few months, at least at 11 Great Oaks. Not a showstopper, just a bit of a pain in the hips, one more little thing that needs doing and is easily overlooked. After I replaced that module I went to drop it off at the shipping area, it came with a return shipper so there wasn't really anything needed beyond them handing the box to the UPS guy next time he came by ... another remote hands ticket required for me to hand them a box and for them to hand the box to someone else. I suppose I could have dropped it off myself at a UPS bin on the way home. BUT, I am overall very pleased with the facility and the operation. There are little quirky things that make it somewhat of a pain but in my experience each provider has their own quirks. At least I can take my modules in there in the cardboard box, unlike Savvis at 4700 Old Ironsides where they have a box cop who won't allow a speck of cardboard past the sign-in window. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 PM To: Robert E. Seastrom; Justin Horstman Cc: Mehmet Akcin; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to going into at least 4 of their centers. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM To: Justin Horstman Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of what layer 8 and 9 means. Fly Fast, -r Justin Horstman justin.horst...@gorillanation.com writes: 8 users 9 politics and policies -Original Message- From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange What are the layer 8-9 issues? Drive Slow, Paul Wall On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote: Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if people really love or hate it. -shac Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and layer9 seem the lacking part which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they seem to be the largest IX per https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they are reliable. mehmet
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 17:07 -0500, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: I wouldn't have thought that PRQ would have any significant protection in place. They used to host thepiratebay. I would figure that site probably got a lot of ddos attacks... William
Re: wikileaks unreachable
DOS is probably because they released some more stuff. Secret US Embassy Cables http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/ -wil On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:38 PM, James Downs wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has Reported they were under attack: http://bgg.lv/h2pmsd
Re: wikileaks unreachable
Seems like they moved to Amazon a few hours ago: $ whois -h whois.bgpmon.net wikileaks.org Prefix: 46.51.128.0/18 Prefix description: Amazon EU AWS Dublin Country code:IE Origin AS: 39111 Origin AS Name: ADSI-AS Amazon EU DC AS .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at 10-11-28 2:07 PM Jeffrey Lyon wrote: I wouldn't have thought that PRQ would have any significant protection in place. Jeff On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:03 PM, William Pitcock neno...@systeminplace.net wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:43 -0500, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: I'm surprised it took this long for the DDoS train to pull into the station. Wikileaks gets DDoSed all the time. My understanding is that PRQ nullrouted the IP because the DDoS is much larger this time. William
RE: experience with equinix exchange
I was getting my info from peeringdb I have not yet looked into PCH yet. From: Aaron Wendel [mailto:aa...@wholesaleinternet.net] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:10 PM To: Ryan Finnesey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange According to pch they don't run most of them. I would say they run very few compared to how many there actually are. Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 21:45:28 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange Would it be fair to say they run most of the peering points within the States? I find that peering within Europe is much more open than in the States. Does the group feel that is because most of the exchange points are run as nonprofits? -Original Message- From: George Bonser [mailto:gbon...@seven.com] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:48 AM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange I haven't had any specific problems with them but they are a bit retentive when it comes to doing certain things. There was the RMA module that arrived one day. You have to initiate a shipping ticket when you think something might arrive. In other words, you must open a ticket with them BEFORE something arrives there which can sometimes be a bit difficult when you are building out a new facility as you have no idea who is going to ship what when. They have eased up on that a little in the past few months, at least at 11 Great Oaks. Not a showstopper, just a bit of a pain in the hips, one more little thing that needs doing and is easily overlooked. After I replaced that module I went to drop it off at the shipping area, it came with a return shipper so there wasn't really anything needed beyond them handing the box to the UPS guy next time he came by ... another remote hands ticket required for me to hand them a box and for them to hand the box to someone else. I suppose I could have dropped it off myself at a UPS bin on the way home. BUT, I am overall very pleased with the facility and the operation. There are little quirky things that make it somewhat of a pain but in my experience each provider has their own quirks. At least I can take my modules in there in the cardboard box, unlike Savvis at 4700 Old Ironsides where they have a box cop who won't allow a speck of cardboard past the sign-in window. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:42 PM To: Robert E. Seastrom; Justin Horstman Cc: Mehmet Akcin; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: experience with equinix exchange I would like to know the issues as well because we are looking to going into at least 4 of their centers. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:30 AM To: Justin Horstman Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Mehmet Akcin Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange Paul is pretty clueful; I think he was asking for specifics as to what the layer 8/9 issues are at Equinix, rather than an explanation of what layer 8 and 9 means. Fly Fast, -r Justin Horstman writes: 8 users 9 politics and policies -Original Message- From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange What are the layer 8-9 issues? Drive Slow, Paul Wall On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote: Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if people really love or hate it. -shac Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however the layer8 and layer9 seem the lacking part which could have been improved greatly. in Great Oaks / SJC , they seem to be the largest IX per https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=5peerParticip an tsPublicsOrder=Sorter_policypeerParticipantsPublicsDir=DESC so being there while you are in that location seems good, and they are reliable. mehmet
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:46:25 EST, Andrew Kirch said: On 11/28/2010 4:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? randy Good riddance. The sooner someone gives Julian Assange 230gr of shut the f*** up, the better. A lot of people at the Pentagon in 1969 said exactly the same thing about Daniel Ellsberg. Whichever side of the fence you are regarding either Assange or Ellsberg, it doesn't make it right to DDOS the server or break in to Lewis Fielding's office. I'll shut up now. pgpNdoKGtGaQQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote: On 11/28/2010 4:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? Good riddance. The sooner someone gives Julian Assange 230gr of shut the f*** up, the better. I find it distressing when Network Operators are willing to encourage DDoS'ing of a site. Any site. Especially on an operational list, where politics are specifically prohibited. You don't like Wikileaks, that's between you Julian. A DDoS affects the infrastructure of multiple networks, users, other websites, etc., etc. Most people who read the last sentence thought to themselves that is beyond obvious. It is a shame you do not understand it. Put another way, perhaps you should take your own 230gr. -- TTFN, patrick
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote: On 11/28/2010 4:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? Good riddance. The sooner someone gives Julian Assange 230gr of shut the f*** up, the better. I find it distressing when Network Operators are willing to encourage DDoS'ing of a site. Any site. Especially on an operational list, where politics are specifically prohibited. You don't like Wikileaks, that's between you Julian. A DDoS affects the infrastructure of multiple networks, users, other websites, etc., etc. Most people who read the last sentence thought to themselves that is beyond obvious. It is a shame you do not understand it. Put another way, perhaps you should take your own 230gr. +1
Re: wikileaks unreachable
Remember not everyone who is on this list is a network operator and sometimes their misguided statements make it here. Do not get me wrong I wish wikileaks would disappear, but there are better ways to do this than interfering with other peoples networks. I would hope the moderators are willing to take the correction action when addressing such matters. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote: On 11/28/2010 4:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? Good riddance. The sooner someone gives Julian Assange 230gr of shut the f*** up, the better. I find it distressing when Network Operators are willing to encourage DDoS'ing of a site. Any site. Especially on an operational list, where politics are specifically prohibited. You don't like Wikileaks, that's between you Julian. A DDoS affects the infrastructure of multiple networks, users, other websites, etc., etc. Most people who read the last sentence thought to themselves that is beyond obvious. It is a shame you do not understand it. Put another way, perhaps you should take your own 230gr. -- TTFN, patrick
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Nov 28, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Andrew Kirch wrote: On 11/28/2010 4:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has left? Good riddance. The sooner someone gives Julian Assange 230gr of shut the f*** up, the better. I find it distressing when Network Operators are willing to encourage DDoS'ing of a site. Any site. Especially on an operational list, where politics are specifically prohibited. You don't like Wikileaks, that's between you Julian. A DDoS affects the infrastructure of multiple networks, users, other websites, etc., etc. Most people who read the last sentence thought to themselves that is beyond obvious. It is a shame you do not understand it. Put another way, perhaps you should take your own 230gr. ++ Kind regards, Ingo Flaschberger -- I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's too young to have logged on yet. Here's what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say 'Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?' --Mike Godwin
Re: wikileaks unreachable
I've heard it's a DOS (not DDOS) according to twitter. Allegedly according to the person doing the DOS: Just so we are all straight and clear - wikileaks hit is not a 'Distributed' DoS, its a simple DoS - I dont use intermediaries or botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST http://twitter.com/th3j35t3r Joel On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: DOS is probably because they released some more stuff. Secret US Embassy Cables http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/ DDOS according to this http://www.securityweek.com/wikileaks-under-denial-service-attack-ddos Regards Marshall -wil On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:38 PM, James Downs wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has Reported they were under attack: http://bgg.lv/h2pmsd
RE: wikileaks unreachable
Uh... huh? Just so we are all straight and clear - wikileaks hit is not a 'Distributed' DoS, its a simple DoS - I dont use intermediaries or botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST That would be just about 2 weeks ago.
RE: wikileaks unreachable
Uh... huh? Just so we are all straight and clear - wikileaks hit is not a 'Distributed' DoS, its a simple DoS - I dont use intermediaries or botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST That would be just about 2 weeks ago. Actually, the last time November 16th fell on a Sunday would have been in 2008. So fifty-four weeks ago ... -- () ascii ribbon campaign against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org
Re: wikileaks unreachable
I copied and pasted that from another list, however, when I brought up the twitter feed it said six hours ago (when i sent that first email). Now I don't see the tweet. shrug So, the truth may vary. Sent from my iPad On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:06 PM, kmedc...@dessus.com kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: Uh... huh? Just so we are all straight and clear - wikileaks hit is not a 'Distributed' DoS, its a simple DoS - I dont use intermediaries or botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST That would be just about 2 weeks ago. Actually, the last time November 16th fell on a Sunday would have been in 2008. So fifty-four weeks ago ... -- () ascii ribbon campaign against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org
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On 29/11/10 1:06 PM, kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: Uh... huh? Just so we are all straight and clear - wikileaks hit is not a 'Distributed' DoS, its a simple DoS - I dont use intermediaries or botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST That would be just about 2 weeks ago. Actually, the last time November 16th fell on a Sunday would have been in 2008. So fifty-four weeks ago ... 106 weeks ago. You need more caffeine. ;) Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 21:06:08 -0500 kmedc...@dessus.com kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST That would be just about 2 weeks ago. Actually, the last time November 16th fell on a Sunday would have been in 2008. So fifty-four weeks ago ... Um, really? What year is this? Damn! Why didn't I bring back a newspaper from 2010? -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner.
Re: wikileaks unreachable
Hi Nanog, Some more information here - http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/ecwnn/wikileaks_hacked_ahead_of_secret_us_document/c176lcb The hacker has featured previously in a news article on his attack platform - https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/3258-Hacker-Releases-Second-Video-of-Enhanced-XerXeS-DoS-Attack-on-Apache-Vulnerability-.html Regards, Andrew - Original Message - From:Joel Esler joel.es...@me.com To:Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv Cc:North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Sent:Monday, 29 November 2010, 1:56:34 Subject:Re: wikileaks unreachable I've heard it's a DOS (not DDOS) according to twitter. Allegedly according to the person doing the DOS: Just so we are all straight and clear - wikileaks hit is not a 'Distributed' DoS, its a simple DoS - I dont use intermediaries or botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST http://twitter.com/th3j35t3r Joel On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: DOS is probably because they released some more stuff. Secret US Embassy Cables http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/ DDOS according to this http://www.securityweek.com/wikileaks-under-denial-service-attack-ddos Regards Marshall -wil On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:38 PM, James Downs wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has Reported they were under attack: http://bgg.lv/h2pmsd
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On 11/28/2010 6:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: I find it distressing when Network Operators are willing to encourage DDoS'ing of a site. Any site. Especially on an operational list, where politics are specifically prohibited. You don't like Wikileaks, that's between you Julian. A DDoS affects the infrastructure of multiple networks, users, other websites, etc., etc. Most people who read the last sentence thought to themselves that is beyond obvious. It is a shame you do not understand it. Put another way, perhaps you should take your own 230gr. Lets be clear here, I'm not encouraging DDoS, I'm enjoying the possibility that someone will hopefully put a jacketed hollowpoint in Assange. Andrew
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:18:18PM -0500, Andrew Kirch said: Lets be clear here, I'm not encouraging DDoS, I'm enjoying the possibility that someone will hopefully put a jacketed hollowpoint in Assange. Andrew This is always the best way to deal with disagreement. But I think this is the wrong list to tender such contracts. Also, it's odd you hate DDOS's more than murder. Time to take some time off work perhaps? For the first time I'm hoping to not meet some of the nanog members in person at a Nanog conference should I ever attend /kc -- Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front St. W.
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ROFL Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Ken Chase k...@sizone.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:18:18PM -0500, Andrew Kirch said: Lets be clear here, I'm not encouraging DDoS, I'm enjoying the possibility that someone will hopefully put a jacketed hollowpoint in Assange. Andrew This is always the best way to deal with disagreement. But I think this is the wrong list to tender such contracts. Also, it's odd you hate DDOS's more than murder. Time to take some time off work perhaps? For the first time I'm hoping to not meet some of the nanog members in person at a Nanog conference should I ever attend /kc -- Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front St. W.
Re: wikileaks unreachable
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010, Ken Chase wrote: This is always the best way to deal with disagreement. But I think this is the wrong list to tender such contracts. Also, it's odd you hate DDOS's more than murder. Time to take some time off work perhaps? For the first time I'm hoping to not meet some of the nanog members in person at a Nanog conference should I ever attend I think you've got it backwards. See if he's actively like this in person. Email ... changes things with communication. Adrian
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On 11/28/2010 10:52 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010, Ken Chase wrote: This is always the best way to deal with disagreement. But I think this is the wrong list to tender such contracts. Also, it's odd you hate DDOS's more than murder. Time to take some time off work perhaps? For the first time I'm hoping to not meet some of the nanog members in person at a Nanog conference should I ever attend I think you've got it backwards. See if he's actively like this in person. Email ... changes things with communication. Adrian There's quite a few right now off list laughing, as they know full well that I'm exactly like this when faced with a threat towards friends and family serving in uniform overseas. Andrew
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Yes, we've all read your blog. Good thing this isn't an operations list or anything. -wil On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Andrew Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote: On 11/28/2010 10:52 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010, Ken Chase wrote: This is always the best way to deal with disagreement. But I think this is the wrong list to tender such contracts. Also, it's odd you hate DDOS's more than murder. Time to take some time off work perhaps? For the first time I'm hoping to not meet some of the nanog members in person at a Nanog conference should I ever attend I think you've got it backwards. See if he's actively like this in person. Email ... changes things with communication. Adrian There's quite a few right now off list laughing, as they know full well that I'm exactly like this when faced with a threat towards friends and family serving in uniform overseas. Andrew
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The one thing I found interesting was the InfoSecIsland poll where the majority of Security Practitioners polled actually supported the Jester's methods... Stefan Fouant Sorry for the top post. Sent from my iPad On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:29 PM, andrew.wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com wrote: Hi Nanog, Some more information here - http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/ecwnn/wikileaks_hacked_ahead_of_secret_us_document/c176lcb The hacker has featured previously in a news article on his attack platform - https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/3258-Hacker-Releases-Second-Video-of-Enhanced-XerXeS-DoS-Attack-on-Apache-Vulnerability-.html Regards, Andrew - Original Message - From:Joel Esler joel.es...@me.com To:Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv Cc:North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Sent:Monday, 29 November 2010, 1:56:34 Subject:Re: wikileaks unreachable I've heard it's a DOS (not DDOS) according to twitter. Allegedly according to the person doing the DOS: Just so we are all straight and clear - wikileaks hit is not a 'Distributed' DoS, its a simple DoS - I dont use intermediaries or botnets. Sun Nov 16 - 15:28 EST http://twitter.com/th3j35t3r Joel On Nov 28, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: DOS is probably because they released some more stuff. Secret US Embassy Cables http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/ DDOS according to this http://www.securityweek.com/wikileaks-under-denial-service-attack-ddos Regards Marshall -wil On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:38 PM, James Downs wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote: anyone know why https://www.wikileaks.org/ is not reachable? nations state level censors trying to close the barn door after the horse has Reported they were under attack: http://bgg.lv/h2pmsd
