Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:59 PM, JC Dill jcdill.li...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 17/01/11 5:40 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:

 I'm not a spammer. I'm an ISP asking to be removed from Spamhaus for
 having fixed the SBL listings set in the last  72 hours. I'm not
 exactally ROKSO material.

 Jeff

 On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Chris Owenow...@hubris.net  wrote:

 On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:

 I fat fingered the netmask, try now.

 I've asked privately but would it really be too much to take this off
 NANOG?

 Spammer complaining he is on a RBL is hardly relevant.

 Chris

 Sigh.

 First, please quit with the top posting Jeff.  (I refer you to the NANOG FAQ
 for elaboration on why this is not an acceptable format for posting to this
 list.)

 Second, this entire thread IS OFF TOPIC for NANOG.  Which you would know if
 you had bothered to read the FAQ before posting.  There are many discussion
 forums for talking about spam and RBLs, and NANOG is not one of them.

 http://www.nanog.org/mailinglist/listfaqs/otherlists.php

 Third, you are not doing your reputation any good with this thread.  Your
 entire tone is one of I'm so important that the rules don't apply to me.
  They need to stop blocking me right now.  Even when I'm wrong (when
 spammer's sites are still active because I don't know how to properly
 null-route their IPs, or shut down their server, or I fat fingered the fix
 and didn't bother to double check that it's really blocked now.  They still
 need to stop blocking me Right Now.  You may not be aware that this list is
 publicly archived on the web in several different locations.  Anyone who
 bothers to google your name (e.g. a future employer) is likely to discover
 this thread and be less than impressed.  Any future posts are only going to
 add to the problem, not help fix it.

 jc




JC,

It was blocked and I did verify it. A very small amount of our traffic
comes in on PCCW and *they* were not honoring a tag that they've
contractually agreed to honor. I can understand why it may be fun to
make this look like a product of my own incompetence, and perhaps it
is something I would have noticed if I wasn't busy responding to
flames.

-- 
Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net
Black Lotus Communications - AS32421
First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions



Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Michael Painter

On 17/01/11 5:40 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:


I'm not a spammer. I'm an ISP asking to be removed from Spamhaus for
having fixed the SBL listings set in the last 72 hours. I'm not
exactally ROKSO material.

Jeff



http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:32421

Safe Browsing
Diagnostic page for AS32421 (BLCC)
What happened when Google visited sites hosted on this network?
Of the 837 site(s) we tested on this network over the past 90 days, 13 site(s), including, for example, temagay.com/, 
inndir.com/, ivbux.com/, served content that resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user 
consent.
The last time Google tested a site on this network was on 2011-01-17, and the last time suspicious content was found was 
on 2011-01-17.

Has this network hosted sites acting as intermediaries for further malware 
distribution?
Over the past 90 days, this network has not hosted any sites that appeared to function as intermediaries for the infection 
of any other sites.

Has this network hosted sites that have distributed malware?
Yes, this network has hosted sites that have distributed malicious software in the past 90 days. We found 2 site(s), 
including, for example, aresdownload.net/, xvid.com/, that infected 74 other site(s), including, for example, 
just4cruisers.com/, filmindirsene.tk/, skootterini.com/. 





RE: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
 It was blocked and I did verify it. A very small amount of our traffic
 comes in on PCCW and *they* were not honoring a tag that they've
 contractually agreed to honor. I can understand why it may be fun to
 make this look like a product of my own incompetence, and perhaps it
 is something I would have noticed if I wasn't busy responding to
 flames.
 
It may be a good policy going forward to do your own null-routes.  I realize 
that for a DDOS protection company, the ability to tag nullroutes upstream is 
handy, but you also need to nullroute the traffic on your own gear, or shut 
down the switch port.  Something that is completely independent of another 
organization, regardless of their contractual obligations to you.

If you were my employee, I would find the fact that you fat-fingered a 
nullroute to be highly concerning.  I would recommend that in addition to 
changing the way you do nullroutes, you also implement a change control policy 
which screens commands for approval before making configuration changes upon 
which your public declarations, and your reputation as a decent operator, rely.

Nathan Eisenberg




Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Ken Gilmour
On 18 January 2011 10:00, Michael Painter tvhaw...@shaka.com wrote:


 http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:32421


I'm completely neutral in all of this but to be fair to BL - Here's the well
respected Level3's results:
http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:3356
(who
also actually provide bandwidth for google) 231 malicious
sites, 14 infection intermediaries and has hosted 29 sites that have
infected 111 other sites. Then we have Global Crossing
http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:3549.
Should we all stop using these ISPs because they have hosted some bad guys?
Obviously they know about them because google has the information. Does this
mean they don't have proper monitoring or control of their network? (FTR
those are rhetorical questions)

I used to work for a company that had some mailing lists that users
explicitly and knowingly signed up for, and lazy people used to click the
Spam button on AOL and other providers - either because it was right
beside delete or because they were too lazy to click the unsubscribe link.
As a result, Level 3 used to forward on the automated spam compaints to our
abuse department and we would usually act on them by unsubscribing the
person ourselves (although they usually tried to munge most of the
complainants identifiable credentials from the forwarded emails). They were
very responsive and demanded respect (in the sense that they don't like
spammers), yet they are hosting hundreds of malicious sites. Had they shut
us down due to a few spam complaints (which were never actually unsolicited)
I have no doubt they would be immediately encountering severe legal action.

Black Lotus are pretty much in the same boat but are in a bit of a worse
situation since people rely on them for protection so they are more
exposed to the transparency limelight. They provide clean pipe bandwidth for
some sites but might not always know what is on those sites.

Regards,

Ken


Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Simon Waters
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 11:46:53 Ken Gilmour wrote:
 
 Obviously they know about them because google has the information.

I'm not sure this is a reasonable deduction.



Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Ken Gilmour
On 18 January 2011 13:10, Simon Waters sim...@zynet.net wrote:

  Obviously they know about them because google has the information.

 I'm not sure this is a reasonable deduction.


Correct - It is completely unreasonable. I was using it as an example in
reference to a larger, well known provider since earlier someone had
mentioned that obviously since google had this information that BL's
monitoring was inadequate as they didn't know about it themselves.

Google knows about lots of things that people in general probably don't know
about themselves.

FTR - I have no doubt that Level 3 have amazing monitoring and
infrastructure, and think I understand why it might be hard to find 231 bad
apples in a basket of over 292492.


Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Joe Greco
 We don't *care* if you got this issue with Spamhaus resolved.  You
 turned it into a much *larger* problem than that.

Really?  Problem solved:

% cat -  sendmail-access
From:jeffrey.l...@gmail.com 550 Mail refused
From:jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.160  550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.161  550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.162  550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.163  550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.164  550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.165  550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.166  550 Mail refused
Connect:199.59.167  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.120  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.121  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.122  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.123  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.124  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.125  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.126  550 Mail refused
Connect:208.64.127  550 Mail refused
^D
% sh update-mxers
%

Life simplification through automation / shell scripting.
(Which reminds me, I really need a tool to add an ASN to the
Sendmail access file automatically.)

...

Oh, wait, you meant a problem for *Jeffrey.*  Yes, that could be.

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.



AW: Nexus 5000 with 4G FC module - initialization ?

2011-01-18 Thread Thomas Weible
Steve Fischer sfischer1...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I'm not mistaken, there is an additional license needed to activate Fibre-
 Channel services on the Nexus family of switches.

Dantzig, Brian bdant...@medline.com wrote:
 You need to turn on fcoe support with the configuration command feature
 fcoe. You will also need the appropriate license for fabric services. But 
 even
 without the license you should be able to enter fc commands. They just
 won't work until you add the license. Without thefeature fcoe, the
 interface type won't even show up in command help. There are other
 storage fabric related services that you may want to turn on with the feature
 command as well.


This did the trick. After enabling feature FCOE the ports show up! 
It might be important for some others. With the regular show interface the 
Nexus only show the Ethernet-ports. You have to do a show interface brief to 
see the FC-ports aswell. 

Anyways.. it is still a question for me if everybody wants to have FCoE when FC 
only is needed?

Thanks for your fast help
Thomas


Looking for fiber

2011-01-18 Thread Nick Olsen
We are looking for fiber in the Port St Lucie/Stuart area of Florida, Maybe 
as north as Fort Pierce.
Anyone have, Or know who has fiber in this area?
Feel free to hit me on or offlist.
Thanks.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106




Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Sergey Voropaev
Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as cisco GSS
and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server plugin) must
be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect) and from
DNS-reply depends on it.

I know that it is possible by BIND with set of script. But we are trying to
find more usable solution with frendly interface.

Thanks a lot.


Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Bates

On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:

I know that it is possible by BIND with set of script. But we are trying to
find more usable solution with frendly interface.



I think powerdns is more flexible in this regard. Not sure about a 
friendly interface, though.



Jack



Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Ahmed Yousuf
Hi,

 

I'm looking at a setup where we use BGP to announce PI space to two upstream
ISPs.  ISP A provides a 30Mb/s connection and ISP B provides a 10Mb/s.
Originally the plan was to use ISP B's link as a backup and local pref
traffic outbound via ISP A and pref  inbound using AS prepend via ISP A.  It
has now been requested to be able to distribute traffic across both links
rather than preference traffic to the higher speed link.  We are going to be
using Juniper SRX210s to do this.  I have some questions:

 

-  Is this really a good idea, as the BGP process won't care what
the utilisation of the links are and you will see situations where the lower
speed link gets used even though the high speed link utilisation is 0? 

 

-  If we are doing this, I don't want to take a full routing table,
I would rather just take the ISPs routes and perhaps their connected
customers.  One ISP has said they will only provide full routing table or
default.  I really don't want to take a full table, is receiving default
only going to be a problem for my setup?

 

-  Any advice on how to avoid situations where the low bandwidth
link is being used even though there is 0 utilisation on the high bandwidth
link?

 

Thanks

 

Ahmed



Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Carrozzo
You can just accept directly-connected peers from each network (or within 2
AS's, etc) then point a default at each one with different preferences. You
can do with with two edges if you like also: iBGP between the edges, and
push default into OSPF from both.

WRT dynamic load balancing... generally if your network is large enough for
two upstreams you'll have a pretty good distribution of flows so once you
get the prefs and prepends setup the way you like, thing won't shift that
rapidly. In my experience at least...

-Jack Carrozzo

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Ahmed Yousuf ayousuf0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,



 I'm looking at a setup where we use BGP to announce PI space to two
 upstream
 ISPs.  ISP A provides a 30Mb/s connection and ISP B provides a 10Mb/s.
 Originally the plan was to use ISP B's link as a backup and local pref
 traffic outbound via ISP A and pref  inbound using AS prepend via ISP A.
  It
 has now been requested to be able to distribute traffic across both links
 rather than preference traffic to the higher speed link.  We are going to
 be
 using Juniper SRX210s to do this.  I have some questions:



 -  Is this really a good idea, as the BGP process won't care what
 the utilisation of the links are and you will see situations where the
 lower
 speed link gets used even though the high speed link utilisation is 0?



 -  If we are doing this, I don't want to take a full routing table,
 I would rather just take the ISPs routes and perhaps their connected
 customers.  One ISP has said they will only provide full routing table or
 default.  I really don't want to take a full table, is receiving default
 only going to be a problem for my setup?



 -  Any advice on how to avoid situations where the low bandwidth
 link is being used even though there is 0 utilisation on the high bandwidth
 link?



 Thanks



 Ahmed




Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Sergey Voropaev
serge.devo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as cisco GSS
 and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server plugin) must
 be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect) and from
 DNS-reply depends on it.

Sergey,

I have no suggestions that directly answer your question. I'd write a
script against bind myself. But if you're trying to fail over a web
server, you're walking into a nasty trap.

DNS pinning obstructs web browsers from finding a server on an
alternate IP address regardless of the DNS TTL. The core issue is that
allowing a browser running javascript to connect to a server other
than the one from which the script came is a gigantic security hole.
Someone realized you could do that by changing the IP address the host
name pointed to, so now there's a convoluted and not entirely
standardized set of rules for when and whether the browser allows it.

Net result is that in some cases a user's long-running browser will
indefinitely ignore the change you made to the DNS. I've seen such
things persist for months.

For better or for worse, the way you -reliably- fail over a web server
is with routing and middleboxes like a load balancer.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


-- 
William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004



Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Max Pierson
You really limit yourself when you just take a default from a provider. If
you take 2 default's (one from each provider) for whatever reason, once you
change the local pref on one of them, it's all your traffic outbound or
none.

I always request a full table + default, so you can filter to best suit your
needs. This way, you can just accept /8's and get some sort of balancing  at
least (even if you just say all even /8's pref'd on one gateway and all odd
/8's from the other provider, etc). Of course this won't be symmetrical, but
thats the nature eBGP on the internet. You'll have to watch it and adjust as
needed so that you won't saturate your slower link.

Max

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Ahmed Yousuf ayousuf0...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,



 I'm looking at a setup where we use BGP to announce PI space to two
 upstream
 ISPs.  ISP A provides a 30Mb/s connection and ISP B provides a 10Mb/s.
 Originally the plan was to use ISP B's link as a backup and local pref
 traffic outbound via ISP A and pref  inbound using AS prepend via ISP A.
  It
 has now been requested to be able to distribute traffic across both links
 rather than preference traffic to the higher speed link.  We are going to
 be
 using Juniper SRX210s to do this.  I have some questions:



 -  Is this really a good idea, as the BGP process won't care what
 the utilisation of the links are and you will see situations where the
 lower
 speed link gets used even though the high speed link utilisation is 0?



 -  If we are doing this, I don't want to take a full routing table,
 I would rather just take the ISPs routes and perhaps their connected
 customers.  One ISP has said they will only provide full routing table or
 default.  I really don't want to take a full table, is receiving default
 only going to be a problem for my setup?



 -  Any advice on how to avoid situations where the low bandwidth
 link is being used even though there is 0 utilisation on the high bandwidth
 link?



 Thanks



 Ahmed




Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread InterNetX - Marco Schrieck
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Am 18.01.11 19:31, schrieb Jack Bates:
 On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:
 I know that it is possible by BIND with set of script. But we are
 trying to
 find more usable solution with frendly interface.

 
 I think powerdns is more flexible in this regard. Not sure about a
 friendly interface, though.
 

 Jack
 

for powerdns exists also an user interface poweradmin.


Marco
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RE: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread George Bonser
 From: Ahmed Yousuf 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:32 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Dual Homed BGP for failover
 
 
 
 -  Is this really a good idea, as the BGP process won't care
 what
 the utilisation of the links are and you will see situations where the
 lower
 speed link gets used even though the high speed link utilisation is 0?

It is possible.  But one thing, and I know it is a semantics nit but it
is really important.  There is no difference in the speed of the
links.  There is a difference in the capacity of the two but the traffic
flows at the same speed across both.

That said, have you actually tried seeing what the natural breakdown
of the traffic is?  Without any AS prepend or local pref adjustment,
what is the natural ratio of traffic on the two links?  Generally
different ISPs have different connectivity and some destinations will be
favored via one path and others via the other path.  It might be useful
to determine how BGP naturally routes things first and then you can get
an idea of what needs adjusting.


 
 
 -  If we are doing this, I don't want to take a full routing
 table,
 I would rather just take the ISPs routes and perhaps their connected
 customers.  One ISP has said they will only provide full routing table
 or
 default.  I really don't want to take a full table, is receiving
 default
 only going to be a problem for my setup?

Interesting.  Most ISPs offer default, full, or customer routes.
You can take a full table but simply filter out any that aren't from
your ISPs ASN or within one hop of it and only install the routes that
meet those criteria.  In addition to using AS prepending, your providers
might offer communities that allow you to control redistribution of your
routing information to their peers.  You might want to tell the ISP on
the smaller link not to announce your routes to a major peer.  That
major peer will now find its path to you via the larger pipe.

 
 
 -  Any advice on how to avoid situations where the low
 bandwidth
 link is being used even though there is 0 utilisation on the high
 bandwidth
 link?

If that happens, it would mean that the world does not see your path via
the high bandwidth pipe as being an attractive path.  As mentioned
above, you might be able to append communities to your routes to the
lower bandwidth ISP that control how they redistribute your routes.  One
example might be something like don't redistribute my routes if you see
them coming from another source in which case that ISP only
redistributes your routes when they don't see the announcement via the
high bandwidth provider and effectively acts as a backup outside of
their own AS but you would still receive traffic originated within their
AS over the low bandwidth connection.

 Ahmed

G




Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Ahmed Yousuf ayousuf0...@gmail.com wrote:
  It
 has now been requested to be able to distribute traffic across both links
 rather than preference traffic to the higher speed link.
 -          Is this really a good idea, as the BGP process won't care what
 the utilisation of the links are and you will see situations where the lower
 speed link gets used even though the high speed link utilisation is 0?

Hi Ahmed,

This really isn't an either/or situation. You can prefer the higher
speed link without excluding the lower speed link. One common way to
do this (there are better ones but this one is easy) is to prepend the
AS path you send and receive on the lower speed link so that it's
longer.


 -          If we are doing this, I don't want to take a full routing table,
 I would rather just take the ISPs routes and perhaps their connected
 customers.  One ISP has said they will only provide full routing table or
 default.  I really don't want to take a full table, is receiving default
 only going to be a problem for my setup?

IMO, that would be a mistake. Taking significantly less than a full
table severely limits your options for balancing traffic between the
links.


 -          Any advice on how to avoid situations where the low bandwidth
 link is being used even though there is 0 utilisation on the high bandwidth
 link?

Any particular communication is either going to go through one link or
the other. I'm generalizing here, ignoring some subtleties, but if
packets between two particular hosts have picked the low speed link,
they will take that one instead of the high speed link. So in a sense
it isn't possible to prevent that situation. However, you can adjust
the preferences for one path versus the other so that you're not
leaving either circuit underused overall and the disparity between
your circuits (30 and 10) is not enough to cause major performance
issues in and of itself.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



-- 
William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004



Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Rhys Rhaven
Having hit these issues myself, I heavily recommend a real frontend
proxy like nginx or varnish.

On 01/18/2011 12:45 PM, William Herrin wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Sergey Voropaev
 serge.devo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as cisco GSS
 and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server plugin) must
 be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect) and from
 DNS-reply depends on it.
 Sergey,

 I have no suggestions that directly answer your question. I'd write a
 script against bind myself. But if you're trying to fail over a web
 server, you're walking into a nasty trap.

 DNS pinning obstructs web browsers from finding a server on an
 alternate IP address regardless of the DNS TTL. The core issue is that
 allowing a browser running javascript to connect to a server other
 than the one from which the script came is a gigantic security hole.
 Someone realized you could do that by changing the IP address the host
 name pointed to, so now there's a convoluted and not entirely
 standardized set of rules for when and whether the browser allows it.

 Net result is that in some cases a user's long-running browser will
 indefinitely ignore the change you made to the DNS. I've seen such
 things persist for months.

 For better or for worse, the way you -reliably- fail over a web server
 is with routing and middleboxes like a load balancer.

 Regards,
 Bill Herrin






Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Brian R. Watters
We are looking for the following solution. 

Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on 

Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block all 
traffic from these offenders .. 

Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked from 
our own networks. 

Any current solutions or ideas ?? 

-- 

BRW 


Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Hunt


Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:31:32 -0600
From: Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net
Subject: Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution
To: Sergey Voropaev serge.devo...@gmail.com
Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Message-ID: 4d35dc84.8020...@brightok.net
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On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:
 I know that it is possible by BIND with set of script. But we are trying to
 find more usable solution with frendly interface.


I think powerdns is more flexible in this regard. Not sure about a
friendly interface, though.


Jack


I find Poweradmin quite usable.  See https://www.poweradmin.org/trac/
for details.

-Christopher Hunt



Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Bates



On 1/18/2011 1:00 PM, William Herrin wrote:

IMO, that would be a mistake. Taking significantly less than a full
table severely limits your options for balancing traffic between the
links.



It should also be noted that taking a full table, doesn't mean you have 
to use the full table. Apply filters to smaller routes or long ASPATHs 
that you don't want, and then assign preferences, communities, prepends, 
etc as necessary for the routes you actually accept.


This means your sync time is longer and you'll have more updates, but it 
will still keep the local routing table much lower.



Jack



RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Guerra, Ruben
Dionaea (nephentes successor) and Kippo (ssh honeypot) are a good start for the 
honeypot side.


http://carnivore.it/

http://dionaea.carnivore.it/

http://code.google.com/p/kippo/


Watching the tty logs in kippo is great entertainment. Perfect way to collect 
the skiddies tools.


As far as the automation of ACLs if you find a script out in the wild please 
share. I do know of the following SNORT to Cisco PIX perl script. Hope this 
helps.

http://www.chaotic.org/guardian/
http://www.chaotic.org/guardian/scripts/pix-block.pl



Regards,
Ruben Guerra

-Original Message-
From: Brian R. Watters [mailto:brwatt...@absfoc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:12 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Auto ACL blocker

We are looking for the following solution. 

Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on 

Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block all 
traffic from these offenders .. 

Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked from 
our own networks. 

Any current solutions or ideas ?? 

-- 

BRW 


Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Roland Dobbins

On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Brian R. Watters wrote:

 Any current solutions or ideas ?? 

This sort of thing can be gamed by attackers to cause DoS on your network/for 
your users/for others trying to access resources on your network.  It's a Bad 
Idea.

Set up S/RTBH and do it by hand.


Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com

Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid, with millions
of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but
just done by brute force and thousands of slaves.

  -- Alan Kay




Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Whynott
send/expect?

On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Brian R. Watters wrote:

 We are looking for the following solution.

 Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on

 Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block 
 all traffic from these offenders ..

 Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked 
 from our own networks.

 Any current solutions or ideas ??

 --

 BRW


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Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Larry Smith
On Tue January 18 2011 13:12, Brian R. Watters wrote:
 We are looking for the following solution.

 Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on

 Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block
 all traffic from these offenders ..

 Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked
 from our own networks.

 Any current solutions or ideas ??

Private BGP session with Zebra or Quagga on a linux box
adding the selected IP to a null route.

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net



RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Thomas Magill
I would consider doing it through BGP via quagga or such.  Nullrouting with BGP 
is much cleaner than ACLs as your config stays static and only your routing 
table changes.  I also imagine due to existing BGP blacklisting methods, that 
much of the work is already done and all you need is to get the honeypot to 
export the right format.

-Original Message-
From: Brian R. Watters [mailto:brwatt...@absfoc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:12 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Auto ACL blocker

We are looking for the following solution. 

Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on 

Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block all 
traffic from these offenders .. 

Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked from 
our own networks. 

Any current solutions or ideas ?? 

-- 

BRW 


Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread david raistrick

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, William Herrin wrote:


Net result is that in some cases a user's long-running browser will
indefinitely ignore the change you made to the DNS. I've seen such
things persist for months.


Do you have any recent evidence to support this?  The 
what-browsers-do-with-what world changes daily... and my understanding 
is that a lot of these things that used to be problems have been changed.




For better or for worse, the way you -reliably- fail over a web server
is with routing and middleboxes like a load balancer.


Alas, sometimes that's just not possible - try doing that @ EC2, for 
example (which is why I've recently been on the hunt for GSLB solutions 
that don't involve appliances...).



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Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread david raistrick

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Rhys Rhaven wrote:


Having hit these issues myself, I heavily recommend a real frontend
proxy like nginx or varnish.


A frontend proxy (nginx, varnish, haproxy, or anything else) doesnt give 
you HA any more than any other loadbalancer solution does.  You need a way 
to send traffic to another frontend server when the primary frontend 
server fails, or is overloaded, transparently.



The tools we have available these days to do this are VRRP-like solutions 
(which all of the appliances use) that use multicast, some amount of 
NAT and routing magic (which I've often not seen done sanely), or DNS 
solutions (better known as GSLB) that dynamicly change the DNS responses
depending on conditions (which could be source location, or could be 
server availability, or whatever).


Normally, VRRP would be the way to go.   But these days multicast isn't 
supported everywhere (major example - Amazon EC2), leaving DNS...


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RE: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Brandon Kim

Someone should advise him that if he wants to take in a full BGP routing table
that he makes sure his router can handle it! I would hate for him to open the 
floodgates
and his production router shuts down. LOL






 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:12:18 -0600
 From: jba...@brightok.net
 To: b...@herrin.us
 Subject: Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover
 CC: ayousuf0...@gmail.com; nanog@nanog.org
 
 
 
 On 1/18/2011 1:00 PM, William Herrin wrote:
  IMO, that would be a mistake. Taking significantly less than a full
  table severely limits your options for balancing traffic between the
  links.
 
 
 It should also be noted that taking a full table, doesn't mean you have 
 to use the full table. Apply filters to smaller routes or long ASPATHs 
 that you don't want, and then assign preferences, communities, prepends, 
 etc as necessary for the routes you actually accept.
 
 This means your sync time is longer and you'll have more updates, but it 
 will still keep the local routing table much lower.
 
 
 Jack
 
  

RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Ronald Bonica
Brian,

Have you thought about what a bad guy might do if he knew that you had such a 
policy deployed? Is there a way that the bad guy might turn the policy against 
you?

 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian R. Watters [mailto:brwatt...@absfoc.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:12 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Auto ACL blocker
 
 We are looking for the following solution.
 
 Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on
 
 Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to
 block all traffic from these offenders ..
 
 Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be
 blocked from our own networks.
 
 Any current solutions or ideas ??
 
 --
 
 BRW


Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Brian R. Watters
Ron,

I am sure any solution given enough time could be used against you, However my 
hope was that a whitelist could help in that regard however I know your correct.


- Original Message -
From: Ronald Bonica rbon...@juniper.net
To: Brian R. Watters brwatt...@absfoc.com, nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:55:28 AM
Subject: RE: Auto ACL blocker

Brian,

Have you thought about what a bad guy might do if he knew that you had such a 
policy deployed? Is there a way that the bad guy might turn the policy against 
you?

 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian R. Watters [mailto:brwatt...@absfoc.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:12 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Auto ACL blocker
 
 We are looking for the following solution.
 
 Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on
 
 Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to
 block all traffic from these offenders ..
 
 Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be
 blocked from our own networks.
 
 Any current solutions or ideas ??
 
 --
 
 BRW

-- 

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Director 
American Broadband Family of Companies 
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RE: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread George Bonser


 -Original Message-
 From: Brandon Kim 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:57 AM
 To: jba...@brightok.net; b...@herrin.us
 Cc: ayousuf0...@gmail.com; nanog group
 Subject: RE: Dual Homed BGP for failover
 
 
 Someone should advise him that if he wants to take in a full BGP
 routing table
 that he makes sure his router can handle it! I would hate for him to
 open the floodgates
 and his production router shuts down. LOL

One can take a full feed but filter so only a subset of the routes are
actually installed.  For example, filter all routes that are more than
one AS away from the immediate upstream.







Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Joe Blanchard
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Brian R. Watters brwatt...@absfoc.comwrote:

 We are looking for the following solution.

 Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on

 Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block
 all traffic from these offenders ..

 Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked
 from our own networks.

 Any current solutions or ideas ??

 --

 BRW


A good start from the honeypot would be sshguard. I'm sure that it could be
adapted to
script out an ACL or such, as well in my usage of it it has timed values to
release the
block after X_amount_of_time .

I'd be curious as to what other(s) you find for this.

-Joe Blanchard


Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Brian R. Watters
We have used this solution for some time and find it works pretty well .. 

http://www.rfxn.com/projects/ 

However need to find a way to pass this info off to a router, this project used 
to hold promise however its dead now .. 

www.ipblocker.org 



- Original Message -
From: Joe Blanchard jbfixu...@gmail.com 
To: Brian R. Watters brwatt...@absfoc.com 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:19:24 PM 
Subject: Re: Auto ACL blocker 



On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Brian R. Watters  brwatt...@absfoc.com  
wrote: 


We are looking for the following solution. 

Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on 

Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block all 
traffic from these offenders .. 

Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked from 
our own networks. 

Any current solutions or ideas ?? 

-- 

BRW 

A good start from the honeypot would be sshguard. I'm sure that it could be 
adapted to 
script out an ACL or such, as well in my usage of it it has timed values to 
release the 
block after X_amount_of_time . 

I'd be curious as to what other(s) you find for this. 

-Joe Blanchard 


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Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Bates



On 1/18/2011 1:42 PM, david raistrick wrote:

Normally, VRRP would be the way to go.   But these days multicast isn't
supported everywhere (major example - Amazon EC2), leaving DNS...


Many HA environments use both, and F5 is designed to do both, supporting 
DNS tricks (of which, you could possibly run host based monitoring and 
dynamic updates to accomplish), anycast routing, and vrrp-like DSR/NAT 
load balancing.






Jack



Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Bates

On 1/18/2011 2:05 PM, George Bonser wrote:

One can take a full feed but filter so only a subset of the routes are
actually installed.  For example, filter all routes that are more than
one AS away from the immediate upstream.



You should still be careful, as most processors keep a copy of filtered 
routes as well, so while your forwarding table may not increase, your 
route processor memory most likely will.


I haven't checked, but I presume IOS and Junos have a knob to disable 
this feature?



Jack



Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread david raistrick



On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Jack Bates wrote:


On 1/18/2011 1:42 PM, david raistrick wrote:

Normally, VRRP would be the way to go.   But these days multicast isn't
supported everywhere (major example - Amazon EC2), leaving DNS...


Many HA environments use both, and F5 is designed to do both, supporting DNS 
tricks (of which, you could possibly run host based monitoring and dynamic 
updates to accomplish), anycast routing, and vrrp-like DSR/NAT load 
balancing.


Agreed.  But sometimes you can't do both. ;)   Now if F5 would sell me an 
appliance that runs their GSLB code I could run @ EC2. ;)







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Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Carrozzo
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote:

 You should still be careful, as most processors keep a copy of filtered
 routes as well, so while your forwarding table may not increase, your route
 processor memory most likely will.


I don't think this is the case, on IOS at least. Some years ago I was
rocking some 7500s with $not_enough ram for multiple full tables, but with a
prefix list to accept le 23  they worked fine.

 -Jack Carrozzo


Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Brian R. Watters
Agreed, time to live in the ACL is critical as well .. this is primary to be 
used to stop sweeps and penetration testing .. We have SNORT deployed now but 
the process is still manual on the back end and of course does not respond in 
the time required. 

- Original Message -
From:  Dorn Hetzel   dorn @ hetzel .org 
To: Brian R. Watters   brwatters @ absfoc .com 
Cc: nanog @ nanog .org, Ronald Bonica   rbonica @juniper.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:01:43 PM 
Subject: Re: Auto ACL blocker 



One suspects this sort of automated defense should only be used against attack 
styles that eliminate the likelihood of a forged source ip and that the acl 
needs to be pruned and compacted for size. Nearby bad ips can be collected into 
a larger mask but there is then risk of collateral damage (how many bad source 
ips in a /24 or whatever before you nuke the whole thing for a while? Does the 
length of a prefixes rap sheet change its treatment? Etc) 
On Jan 18, 2011 3:03 PM, Brian R. Watters   brwatters @ absfoc .com  wrote: 
 Ron, 
 
 I am sure any solution given enough time could be used against you, However 
 my hope was that a whitelist could help in that regard however I know your 
 correct. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ronald Bonica   rbonica @juniper.net  
 To: Brian R. Watters   brwatters @ absfoc .com , nanog @ nanog .org 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:55:28 AM 
 Subject: RE: Auto ACL blocker 
 
 Brian, 
 
 Have you thought about what a bad guy might do if he knew that you had such a 
 policy deployed? Is there a way that the bad guy might turn the policy 
 against you? 
 
 Ron 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Brian R. Watters [ mailto : brwatters @ absfoc .com ] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:12 PM 
 To: nanog @ nanog .org 
 Subject: Auto ACL blocker 
 
 We are looking for the following solution. 
 
 Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on 
 
 Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to 
 block all traffic from these offenders .. 
 
 Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be 
 blocked from our own networks. 
 
 Any current solutions or ideas ?? 
 
 -- 
 
 BRW 
 
 -- 
 
 Brian R. Watters 
 Director 
 American Broadband Family of Companies 
 5718 East Shields Ave 
 Fresno, CA. 93727 
 brwatters @ absfoc .com 
 http :// www . americanbroadbandservice .com 
 tel: 559-420-0205 
 fax:559-272-5266 
 toll free: 866-827-4638 
 
 ABS offers T-1's starting at $289 in over 450 cities. Is your city on the 
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Authentication using Microsoft 2008 Active directory for Cisco RADIUS login

2011-01-18 Thread Michael Ruiz
Hello all,

 

I am having some trouble getting my Cisco routers to use
Active directory to authenticate users. I have searched on Google and so
far I am coming up dry on good documentation that will work. 

 

I have used these links.
http://briandesmond.com/blog/how-to-authenticate-against-active-director
y-from-cisco-ios/

 

http://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2008/12_w51/87700/TA0001-Win
dows-2008-RADIUS-for-C.pdf

 

 

When I am doing a debug against the AAA I am getting the Response (32)
failed decrypt error.  Any thoughts?  Thank you in advance.

 

M.A.R

 



Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Bates



On 1/18/2011 3:03 PM, Jack Carrozzo wrote:

I don't think this is the case, on IOS at least. Some years ago I was
rocking some 7500s with $not_enough ram for multiple full tables, but
with a prefix list to accept le 23  they worked fine.



On JunOS, I know I can view pre and post filtered bgp updates ingress 
and egress. I seem to recall seeing similar functionality introduced 
into IOS, though I'm less certain. It's still always advisable to be 
careful. :)



Jack



RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread George Bonser



 From: Brian R. Watters 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:14 PM
 To: Dorn Hetzel
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Auto ACL blocker
 
 Agreed, time to live in the ACL is critical as well .. this is primary
 to be used to stop sweeps and penetration testing .. We have SNORT
 deployed now but the process is still manual on the back end and of
 course does not respond in the time required.

I suppose you could use tcp wrappers to be creative and launch netcat to bend 
the connection right back to the originator so they spend all their time 
hacking themselves.




Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Carrozzo
Yep, the great thing about IOS without 'commit confirmed' is when you remove
a bgp filter, it runs out of memory, reboots, brings up peers, runs out of
memory, reboots... meanwhile if you're trying to get in over a public
interface you're cursing John Chamber's very existence. Not that that's ever
happened to me of course...

-Jack Carrozzo

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote:



 On 1/18/2011 3:03 PM, Jack Carrozzo wrote:

 I don't think this is the case, on IOS at least. Some years ago I was
 rocking some 7500s with $not_enough ram for multiple full tables, but
 with a prefix list to accept le 23  they worked fine.


 On JunOS, I know I can view pre and post filtered bgp updates ingress and
 egress. I seem to recall seeing similar functionality introduced into IOS,
 though I'm less certain. It's still always advisable to be careful. :)


 Jack



Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Max Pierson
Me 3's commit confirmed ... maybe someone from Cisco should be watching
:)

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jack Carrozzo j...@crepinc.com wrote:

 Yep, the great thing about IOS without 'commit confirmed' is when you
 remove
 a bgp filter, it runs out of memory, reboots, brings up peers, runs out of
 memory, reboots... meanwhile if you're trying to get in over a public
 interface you're cursing John Chamber's very existence. Not that that's
 ever
 happened to me of course...

 -Jack Carrozzo

 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote:

 
 
  On 1/18/2011 3:03 PM, Jack Carrozzo wrote:
 
  I don't think this is the case, on IOS at least. Some years ago I was
  rocking some 7500s with $not_enough ram for multiple full tables, but
  with a prefix list to accept le 23  they worked fine.
 
 
  On JunOS, I know I can view pre and post filtered bgp updates ingress and
  egress. I seem to recall seeing similar functionality introduced into
 IOS,
  though I'm less certain. It's still always advisable to be careful. :)
 
 
  Jack
 



Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Dorn Hetzel d...@hetzel.org wrote:
 If it wouldn't be too ugly, could this be circumvented by having the web
 application continually do its next operation against an incrementing
 subhost name like syymmddhhmmss or snnn.www.foo.com in order to convince
 the local browser and client os to do a fresh lookup?

Hi Dorn,

There's an efficiency problem where you can no longer pipeline http
requests and have to delay every http request while a DNS lookup
happens. Also it'd probably crush your google pagerank.  And you still
wouldn't get around the javascript in your web 2.0 pages needing to go
back to the same server name it came from in order to update the
content on those pages.

The custom name strategy does have some other really neat applications
though. You can track a session without setting a cookie. And consider
a large email system: suppose you encode the account name in the
server name and then point that encoded name to the server which
actually holds that user's account? You can eliminate the expensive
front-end that multiplexes user access to the backend servers.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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PCCW Admin

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Kirch
Would a PCCW admin contact me off-list regarding one of your customers?

Andrew



adaptec 5405 wedged

2011-01-18 Thread Randy Bush
any adaptec bios-level fu out there?  if so, please see
http://archive.psg.com/110119.adaptec.pdf

thanks

randy



Re: Dual Homed BGP for failover

2011-01-18 Thread Michel de Nostredame
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:05 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Brandon Kim
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:57 AM
 To: jba...@brightok.net; b...@herrin.us
 Cc: ayousuf0...@gmail.com; nanog group
 Subject: RE: Dual Homed BGP for failover
 One can take a full feed but filter so only a subset of the routes are
 actually installed.  For example, filter all routes that are more than
 one AS away from the immediate upstream.

I remember in IOS the BGP config should not have soft-reconfiguration
inbound for this uplink session, otherwise routing-engine will still
keep one copy of full table in memory.

--
Michel~



Re: Request Spamhaus contact

2011-01-18 Thread Kevin Stange
On 01/18/2011 06:21 AM, Ken Gilmour wrote:
 On 18 January 2011 13:10, Simon Waters sim...@zynet.net wrote:
 
 Obviously they know about them because google has the information.

 I'm not sure this is a reasonable deduction.


 Correct - It is completely unreasonable. I was using it as an example in
 reference to a larger, well known provider since earlier someone had
 mentioned that obviously since google had this information that BL's
 monitoring was inadequate as they didn't know about it themselves.
 
 Google knows about lots of things that people in general probably don't know
 about themselves.
 
 FTR - I have no doubt that Level 3 have amazing monitoring and
 infrastructure, and think I understand why it might be hard to find 231 bad
 apples in a basket of over 292492.

I think it's important to point out that this statistic is over the
past 90 days as well.  It doesn't identify enough sites to make it
possible to verify whether it's representative of current problems.  The
231 sites may have been cleaned relatively quickly and still count in
the statistic if Google ever found them to be doing something malicious.
 I do not think this report is a useful one unless the number is
constantly growing and is a large percentage of sites Google has
spidered on the network.

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Chief Technology Officer
Steadfast Networks
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RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Scholten
 From: Larry Smith [mailto:lesm...@ecsis.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 8:32 PM
 
 On Tue January 18 2011 13:12, Brian R. Watters wrote:
  We are looking for the following solution.
 
  Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on
 
  Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to
 block
  all traffic from these offenders ..
 
  Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be
 blocked
  from our own networks.
 
  Any current solutions or ideas ??
 
 Private BGP session with Zebra or Quagga on a linux box
 adding the selected IP to a null route.

As we currently do it by putting new rules automatically in firewalls 
(iptables) it should be easy to change it a little bit I think. After the 
change it should be able to put rules in Zebra/Quagga (or something similar 
based on Linux/Unix). As long as telnet access is available it should also be 
doable to put it automatically in routers without the need of a setup with BGP 
and Zebra/Quagga.

We are currently looking for ways to increase the list with abusive systems 
to block.

If someone wants to work together with us on increasing the mentioned options 
feel free to contact me offlist. How we get the data currently (from multiple 
sources) or how the process currently work isn't something I can currently 
mention here (at least not the details).

Regards, Mark




Re: adaptec 5405 wedged

2011-01-18 Thread Phil Regnauld


On 19/01/2011, at 00.23, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:

 any adaptec bios-level fu out there?  if so, please see
 http://archive.psg.com/110119.adaptec.pdf
 

Hi Randy,

Did you see this bit about transfer speed issues?


http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16913

For those customers that are unable to update, or have a Series 2 (2045, 2405, 
2405Q, 2805) or a low-port Series 5 (5405, 5405Z, 5445, 5805, 5805Z, 5085, 
5805Z, 5805ZQ) controller, the Western Digital WD20EADS and WD2002FYPS drives 
will need to be jumpered down to 1.5Gb/sec in order to function properly 
(please refer to the specific jumper settings provided below). 


RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Thomas Magill
Also, have you considered just using the spamhaus DROP list?  They even have 
code to have the list pushed to IOS available.  You could simply substitute 
your file for their list if you only want to use IPs caught by your honeypot.

http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/answers.lasso?section=DROP%20FAQ


-Original Message-
From: Brian R. Watters [mailto:brwatt...@absfoc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:12 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Auto ACL blocker

We are looking for the following solution. 

Honey pot that collects attacks against SSH/FTP and so on 

Said attacks are then sent to a master ACL on a edge Cisco router to block all 
traffic from these offenders .. 

Of course we would require a master whitelist as well as to not be blocked from 
our own networks. 

Any current solutions or ideas ?? 

-- 

BRW 


Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Charles N Wyble
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Ha-proxy and linux virtual server are popular packages.

On 01/18/2011 09:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:
 Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as cisco GSS
 and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server plugin) must
 be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect) and from
 DNS-reply depends on it.
 
 I know that it is possible by BIND with set of script. But we are trying to
 find more usable solution with frendly interface.
 
 Thanks a lot.


- -- 
Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com)
Systems craftsman for the stars
http://www.knownelement.com
Mobile: 626 539 4344
Office: 310 929 8793
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Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread david raistrick



On 01/18/2011 09:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:

Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as cisco GSS
and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server plugin) must
be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect) and from
DNS-reply depends on it.



On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Charles N Wyble wrote:


Ha-proxy and linux virtual server are popular packages.


Neither of these do DNS.   He asked about DNS based loadbalancing (also 
known as GSLB, among other things) software packages




--
david raistrickhttp://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
dr...@icantclick.org http://www.expita.com/nomime.html




Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Gary Steers
Hi Guys,

First time post so please excuse.
*
*
I think you can get a free Citrix NetScaler virtual applicance (VPX) that
will do this with GSLB.

other then that PowerDNS has a very good geolocation plugin, so they may
also have an availabiliy plugin for checks...
*
*
I am also looking for a combined open source geolocation and availability
checking DNS Platform.
*
*
Gary


On 18 January 2011 23:56, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Ha-proxy and linux virtual server are popular packages.

 On 01/18/2011 09:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:
  Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as cisco
 GSS
  and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server plugin)
 must
  be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect) and
 from
  DNS-reply depends on it.
 
  I know that it is possible by BIND with set of script. But we are trying
 to
  find more usable solution with frendly interface.
 
  Thanks a lot.


 - --
 Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com)
 Systems craftsman for the stars
 http://www.knownelement.com
 Mobile: 626 539 4344
 Office: 310 929 8793
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Re: adaptec 5405 wedged

2011-01-18 Thread Randy Carpenter

Not sure, but I have seen issues with keyboard input on IPMI or serial-port 
console systems not working very well in controller BIOS screens. Has this 
worked before using the same method?

Also, were you able to flash the BIOS of the WD drives with a hacked firmware 
that has TLER enabled? If not, I would highly suggest not using those drives in 
a RAID array. Stick with the RAID Edition drives for that. I have had a 
multitude of issues with drives (particularly Western Digital) that were not 
designed for RAID use.


-Randy

--
| Randy Carpenter
| Vice President - IT Services
| Red Hat Certified Engineer
| First Network Group, Inc.
| (800)578-6381, Opt. 1


- Original Message -
 On 19/01/2011, at 00.23, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
 
  any adaptec bios-level fu out there? if so, please see
  http://archive.psg.com/110119.adaptec.pdf
 
 
 Hi Randy,
 
 Did you see this bit about transfer speed issues?
 
 
 http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16913
 
 For those customers that are unable to update, or have a Series 2
 (2045, 2405, 2405Q, 2805) or a low-port Series 5 (5405, 5405Z, 5445,
 5805, 5805Z, 5085, 5805Z, 5805ZQ) controller, the Western Digital
 WD20EADS and WD2002FYPS drives will need to be jumpered down to
 1.5Gb/sec in order to function properly (please refer to the specific
 jumper settings provided below).



Re: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread ML

On 1/18/2011 6:48 PM, Thomas Magill wrote:

Also, have you considered just using the spamhaus DROP list?  They even have 
code to have the list pushed to IOS available.  You could simply substitute 
your file for their list if you only want to use IPs caught by your honeypot.

http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/answers.lasso?section=DROP%20FAQ




I know Spamhaus doesn't offer a BGP feed of the DROP list.  Has anyone 
made a homegrown solution?


There is a PHP script that pull the DROP list and make a Cisco ACL or 
IPtables rules.


http://www.potato-people.com/code/misctools/spamhausdrop.phps



Re: Authentication using Microsoft 2008 Active directory for Cisco RADIUS login

2011-01-18 Thread ML

On 1/18/2011 4:15 PM, Michael Ruiz wrote:

Hello all,



 I am having some trouble getting my Cisco routers to use
Active directory to authenticate users. I have searched on Google and so
far I am coming up dry on good documentation that will work.




I know $myemployer Uses Cisco ACS to hit AD for logins.  Maybe use tac+ 
to then query AD.




Re: Authentication using Microsoft 2008 Active directory for Cisco RADIUS login

2011-01-18 Thread Gary Steers
I've set it up on 2003 before, found this article...
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverNIS/thread/bfbbbae4-a280-4b3f-b214-02867b7d33e3/

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverNIS/thread/bfbbbae4-a280-4b3f-b214-02867b7d33e3/it
may be of use.

Essentially on 2k3 it was a case of IAS and setting up the Cisco to use
auth-port 1645

Looking at this you use NPS and change the port
*
*
Gary
*
*
On 19 January 2011 00:30, ML m...@kenweb.org wrote:

 On 1/18/2011 4:15 PM, Michael Ruiz wrote:

 Hello all,



 I am having some trouble getting my Cisco routers to use
 Active directory to authenticate users. I have searched on Google and so
 far I am coming up dry on good documentation that will work.



 I know $myemployer Uses Cisco ACS to hit AD for logins.  Maybe use tac+ to
 then query AD.




Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Charles N Wyble
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Hash: SHA1

On 01/18/2011 04:01 PM, david raistrick wrote:
 
 On 01/18/2011 09:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:
 Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as
 cisco GSS
 and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server
 plugin) must
 be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect)
 and from
 DNS-reply depends on it.

 
 On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Charles N Wyble wrote:

 Ha-proxy and linux virtual server are popular packages.
 
 Neither of these do DNS. 

What does that mean? Load balance DNS lookups across multiple servers?
Or use DNS to load balance? I've never setup a load balancer for DNS
before. Always just had one server and moved the VM in event of
failure/maintenance.

  He asked about DNS based loadbalancing (also
 known as GSLB, among other things) software packages

Ah. DNS based load balancing. I've heard good things about powerdns for
that.



- -- 
Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com)
Systems craftsman for the stars
http://www.knownelement.com
Mobile: 626 539 4344
Office: 310 929 8793
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Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Bonomi

 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:50:40 -0800
 From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
 Subject: Re: Routing Suggestions

 i'm with jon and the static crew.  brutal but simple.

 if you want no leakage, A can filter the prefix from it's upstreams, both 
 can low-pref blackhole it, ...


One late comment --

OP stated that the companies were exchanging 'sensitive' traffic. I suspect
that they di *NOT* want this traffic to route over the public internet -if-
he private point-to-point link goes down.  if they're running any sort of a
dynamic/active routing protocol then -that- route is going to disappear 
if/*WHEN* the private link goes down, and the packets will be subject to
whatever other routing rules -- e.g. a 'default' route -- are in place. 

This would seem to be a compelling reason to use a static route -- insuring
that traffic _fails_ to route, instead of failing over to a public internet
route, in the event of a link failure.





Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Gary Steers
What does that mean? Load balance DNS lookups across multiple servers?
Or use DNS to load balance? I've never setup a load balancer for DNS
before. Always just had one server and moved the VM in event of
failure/maintenance.
*
*
I think using DNS to load balance is what was meant, PowerDNS can do this,
but most DNS servers can to basic load balancing/round robin (it will just
give out a different/multiple A Records each time. I've done this with bind
and Microsoft before.

PowerDNS has an awsome geolocation plugin, and that probably can be tied to
a check to see if the IP is up so it's actually checking the status of IPs
to make it more automated.

Gary

On 19 January 2011 00:39, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 01/18/2011 04:01 PM, david raistrick wrote:
 
  On 01/18/2011 09:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:
  Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as
  cisco GSS
  and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server
  plugin) must
  be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect)
  and from
  DNS-reply depends on it.
 
 
  On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Charles N Wyble wrote:
 
  Ha-proxy and linux virtual server are popular packages.
 
  Neither of these do DNS.

 What does that mean? Load balance DNS lookups across multiple servers?
 Or use DNS to load balance? I've never setup a load balancer for DNS
 before. Always just had one server and moved the VM in event of
 failure/maintenance.

  He asked about DNS based loadbalancing (also
  known as GSLB, among other things) software packages

 Ah. DNS based load balancing. I've heard good things about powerdns for
 that.



 - --
 Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com)
 Systems craftsman for the stars
 http://www.knownelement.com
 Mobile: 626 539 4344
 Office: 310 929 8793
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RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Thomas Magill
-Original Message-
From: ML [mailto:m...@kenweb.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:28 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Auto ACL blocker

 I know Spamhaus doesn't offer a BGP feed of the DROP list.  Has anyone 
 made a homegrown solution?

DROP is currently available only as a simple text list but may be available in 
the future by BGP, announced via an Autonomous System Number (ASN). DROP users 
could then choose to peer with that ASN to null those prefixes as being ranges 
for which they do not wish to route traffic.

I considered giving it a shot until I read that.  It doesn't seem very 
difficult but don't have the free time to work on things that someone else 
claims is coming.  I also don’t have a spare ASN to share it externally which 
would be the ultimate goal, like the Cymru bogon peering.



RE: Auto ACL blocker

2011-01-18 Thread Thomas Magill
LOL.. oops.. I guess I could just use 65xxx.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Magill [mailto:tmag...@providecommerce.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:23 PM
To: m...@kenweb.org; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Auto ACL blocker

-Original Message-
From: ML [mailto:m...@kenweb.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:28 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Auto ACL blocker

 I know Spamhaus doesn't offer a BGP feed of the DROP list.  Has anyone 
 made a homegrown solution?

DROP is currently available only as a simple text list but may be available in 
the future by BGP, announced via an Autonomous System Number (ASN). DROP users 
could then choose to peer with that ASN to null those prefixes as being ranges 
for which they do not wish to route traffic.

I considered giving it a shot until I read that.  It doesn't seem very 
difficult but don't have the free time to work on things that someone else 
claims is coming.  I also don’t have a spare ASN to share it externally which 
would be the ultimate goal, like the Cymru bogon peering.



Re: Routing Suggestions

2011-01-18 Thread Owen DeLong

On Jan 18, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:

 
 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:50:40 -0800
 From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
 Subject: Re: Routing Suggestions
 
 i'm with jon and the static crew.  brutal but simple.
 
 if you want no leakage, A can filter the prefix from it's upstreams, both 
 can low-pref blackhole it, ...
 
 
 One late comment --
 
 OP stated that the companies were exchanging 'sensitive' traffic. I suspect
 that they di *NOT* want this traffic to route over the public internet -if-
 he private point-to-point link goes down.  if they're running any sort of a
 dynamic/active routing protocol then -that- route is going to disappear 
 if/*WHEN* the private link goes down, and the packets will be subject to
 whatever other routing rules -- e.g. a 'default' route -- are in place. 
 
 This would seem to be a compelling reason to use a static route -- insuring
 that traffic _fails_ to route, instead of failing over to a public internet
 route, in the event of a link failure.
 
 
That's why I always prefer to put this traffic inside an IPSEC VPN. Then,
you gain the advantage of being able to let the internet serve as a backup
for your preferred private path while still protecting your sensitive 
information.

Then I use dynamic routing and take advantage of the diverse path capabilities.

Owen




Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Jay Reitz
 PowerDNS has an awsome geolocation plugin, and that probably can be tied to
 a check to see if the IP is up so it's actually checking the status of IPs
 to make it more automated.

 Gary


gdnsd is very robust and fast and has an interface that a networking
engineer won't mind.  It comes with a geolocation plugin with
health-check failover via HTTP.

http://code.google.com/p/gdnsd/

j.



Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Paul Graydon

On 01/18/2011 07:42 AM, Sergey Voropaev wrote:

Does any one know software sollutions (free is preferable) like as cisco GSS
and F5 BIG-IP? The main point is that DNS-server (or dns server plugin) must
be able to monitor server availability (for example by TCP connect) and from
DNS-reply depends on it.

I know that it is possible by BIND with set of script. But we are trying to
find more usable solution with frendly interface.

Thanks a lot.
If you want to get fancy you could try an Anycast DNS setup, using GNU's 
Zebra tool to automatically alter routing tables. 
http://www.netlinxinc.com/netlinx-blog/45-dns/118-introduction-to-anycast-dns.html


Paul



Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution

2011-01-18 Thread Jon Lewis

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Charles N Wyble wrote:


 He asked about DNS based loadbalancing (also

known as GSLB, among other things) software packages


Ah. DNS based load balancing. I've heard good things about powerdns for
that.


I assume the good things is that with powerdns and the gmysql backend, 
it's trivial to have a script do some SQL updates as often as you need to 
change the content and change_date of the records you're using for the DNS 
based load balancing.


--
 Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
 Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
 Atlantic Net|
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Re: Software DNS hghi availability and load balancer solution [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2011-01-18 Thread Wilkinson, Alex

0n Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 02:42:57PM -0500, david raistrick wrote: 

On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Rhys Rhaven wrote:

 Having hit these issues myself, I heavily recommend a real frontend
 proxy like nginx or varnish.

A frontend proxy (nginx, varnish, haproxy, or anything else) doesnt give 
you HA any more than any other loadbalancer solution does.  You need a way 
to send traffic to another frontend server when the primary frontend 
server fails, or is overloaded, transparently.

freebsd + varnish + carp (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/carp.html)

  -Alex

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PacketExchange/Mzima

2011-01-18 Thread Andrew Kirch
Need a PacketExchange/Mzima admin to contact me off list regarding an AS
Number issue.

Andrwe