Re: BGP history in enterprise?

2012-02-09 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012, Andrey Khomyakov wrote:


Looking for something to keep track of BGP route changes in a large
enterprise. Found http://www.ibgplay.org/, but I can't seem to get in touch
with them to obtain that free license needed to start the service.
Does anyone know of something that would do what bgplay does or
alternatively how to get in touch with the ibgplay folks for that license...


If you're looking for changes that make it into the global BGP view, try 
http://bgplay.routeviews.org/


jms



RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread Leigh Porter


 -Original Message-
 From: Brent Jones [mailto:br...@brentrjones.com]
 Sent: 27 January 2012 06:33
 To: Rodrick Brown
 Cc: nanog list
 Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton
 
 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Rodrick Brown
 rodrick.br...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Not to mention Arista's cli runs a busybox Linux inside!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 Last I checked, Arista used Fedora Linux, with x86 dual-core CPUs and
 4GB
 RAM.
 Their CLI was written in Python or Perl as well, and they encourage
 hacking
 it for cool new things.

Based on this thread I has Arista in today for a show'n'tell and it is pretty 
impressive both in terms of features (features that you actually use) and 
pricing.

So a couple of evals on the way...

--
Leigh





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Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread Adrian Minta

Cisco has finally release a new 10G switch, Catalyst 4500-X:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps12332/index.html

Does anyone know the price range, or the FCS date for this ?




Re: Slow IN-ADDR.ARPA responses

2012-02-09 Thread Mehmet Akcin

On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:03 PM, John Levine wrote:

 I'm seeing surprisingly slow responses from some of the IN-ADDR
 servers, like 300ms or more.  Are they being attacked by script
 kiddies of something?
 
 R's,
 John
 
 


We operate B.* and we don't see anything unusual in our locations.

thanks

Mehmet



RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread George Bonser
 
 Based on this thread I has Arista in today for a show'n'tell and it is
 pretty impressive both in terms of features (features that you actually
 use) and pricing.
 
 So a couple of evals on the way...
 
 --
 Leigh

It's pretty good gear.  The only problem I've had with it is the limitation of 
IGMP not working on mLAG VLANs.






Re: Slow IN-ADDR.ARPA responses

2012-02-09 Thread John Levine
We operate B.* and we don't see anything unusual in our locations.

Seems to have been routing problems with C.  The B server looks fine
from here, too.  Thanks, all.

R's,
John



Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread Elliot Finley
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Leigh Porter
leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote:
 Based on this thread I has Arista in today for a show'n'tell and it is pretty 
 impressive both in terms of features (features that you actually use) and 
 pricing.

 So a couple of evals on the way...

Let us know how the eval goes if you would.

Thanks,
Elliot



Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread lincoln dale
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote:

 It's pretty good gear.  The only problem I've had with it is the
 limitation of IGMP not working on mLAG VLANs.


IGMP should work just fine with MLAG.  IGMP state is sync'd between the
MLAG pair. Happy to talk about this more off-list if you wish.


cheers,

lincoln.
(l...@aristanetworks.com)


RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread George Bonser
Feb  9 07:42:21 SJC-AGS-01 IgmpSnooping: %IGMPSNOOPING-4-IGMPV3_UNSUPPORTED: 
IGMPv3 querier detected on interface Port-Channel1 (message repeated 34 times 
in 625.028 secs)

SJC-AGS-01#sho ver
Arista DCS-7124S-F
Hardware version:06.02
Serial number:   JSH10130054
System MAC address:  001c.7308.752f

Software image version: 4.6.4
Architecture:   i386
Internal build version: 4.6.4-434606.EOS464

Sure, we can discuss it.



From: lincoln dale [mailto:l...@interlink.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:13 PM
To: George Bonser
Cc: Leigh Porter; nanog list
Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM, George Bonser 
gbon...@seven.commailto:gbon...@seven.com wrote:
It's pretty good gear.  The only problem I've had with it is the limitation of 
IGMP not working on mLAG VLANs.

IGMP should work just fine with MLAG.  IGMP state is sync'd between the MLAG 
pair. Happy to talk about this more off-list if you wish.


cheers,

lincoln.
(l...@aristanetworks.commailto:l...@aristanetworks.com)


Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread lincoln dale
hi George,

IGMPv3 snooping has been supported since EOS 4.7.  Its enabled by default
in EOS 4.8.x.

In terms of specifics, there is support for both IGMPv3 snooping  IGMPv3
querier. There isn't currently support for IGMPv3 snooping querier.


cheers,

lincoln.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote:

  Feb  9 07:42:21 SJC-AGS-01 IgmpSnooping:
 %IGMPSNOOPING-4-IGMPV3_UNSUPPORTED: IGMPv3 querier detected on interface
 Port-Channel1 (message repeated 34 times in 625.028 secs)

 ** **

 SJC-AGS-01#sho ver

 Arista DCS-7124S-F

 Hardware version:06.02

 Serial number:   JSH10130054

 System MAC address:  001c.7308.752f

 ** **

 Software image version: 4.6.4

 Architecture:   i386

 Internal build version: 4.6.4-434606.EOS464

 ** **

 Sure, we can discuss it.

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 *From:* lincoln dale [mailto:l...@interlink.com.au]
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:13 PM
 *To:* George Bonser
 *Cc:* Leigh Porter; nanog list
 *Subject:* Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

 ** **

 On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote:
 

 It's pretty good gear.  The only problem I've had with it is the
 limitation of IGMP not working on mLAG VLANs.


 IGMP should work just fine with MLAG.  IGMP state is sync'd between the
 MLAG pair. Happy to talk about this more off-list if you wish.


 cheers,

 lincoln.
 (l...@aristanetworks.com)



RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread George Bonser
Hi, Lincoln,

*sigh*

Ok, I see what happened.  We just went through a software upgrade cycle on that 
unit and it got upgraded to the end of 4.6 instead of being upgraded to the 
latest release version of EOS. Looks like another upgrade needs to be done, 
probably to 4.8.3

Thanks.

George


From: lincoln dale [mailto:l...@interlink.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:47 PM
To: George Bonser
Cc: Leigh Porter; nanog list
Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

hi George,

IGMPv3 snooping has been supported since EOS 4.7.  Its enabled by default in 
EOS 4.8.x.

In terms of specifics, there is support for both IGMPv3 snooping  IGMPv3 
querier. There isn't currently support for IGMPv3 snooping querier.


cheers,

lincoln.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM, George Bonser 
gbon...@seven.commailto:gbon...@seven.com wrote:
Feb  9 07:42:21 SJC-AGS-01 IgmpSnooping: %IGMPSNOOPING-4-IGMPV3_UNSUPPORTED: 
IGMPv3 querier detected on interface Port-Channel1 (message repeated 34 times 
in 625.028 secs)

SJC-AGS-01#sho ver
Arista DCS-7124S-F
Hardware version:06.02
Serial number:   JSH10130054
System MAC address:  001c.7308.752f

Software image version: 4.6.4
Architecture:   i386
Internal build version: 4.6.4-434606.EOS464

Sure, we can discuss it.



From: lincoln dale [mailto:l...@interlink.com.aumailto:l...@interlink.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:13 PM
To: George Bonser
Cc: Leigh Porter; nanog list
Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM, George Bonser 
gbon...@seven.commailto:gbon...@seven.com wrote:
It's pretty good gear.  The only problem I've had with it is the limitation of 
IGMP not working on mLAG VLANs.

IGMP should work just fine with MLAG.  IGMP state is sync'd between the MLAG 
pair. Happy to talk about this more off-list if you wish.


cheers,

lincoln.
(l...@aristanetworks.commailto:l...@aristanetworks.com)



Re: Firewalls in service provider environments

2012-02-09 Thread David Walker
I'm an end user but I refer to these from time to time:

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3013.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3871.txt

I suppose the salient question is what kind of customers are we talking about.

Best wishes.



Re: UDP port 80 DDoS attack

2012-02-09 Thread Steve Bertrand

On 2012.02.08 14:23, Drew Weaver wrote:

Stop paying transit providers for delivering spoofed packets to the edge of 
your network and they will very quickly develop methods of proving that the 
traffic isn't spoofed, or block it altogether. =)


I firmly believe in this recourse, amongst others...

If you know that your provider allows spoofed traffic, let the community 
know about it.


In all aspects of life, a problem must be 'fixed' at the source. All of 
the small-medium size ops have to connect to the big-boys somewhere, and 
what I've seen in this industry is that the big-boys are generally 
compliant.


Steve



Middlebox Report and Thank You!

2012-02-09 Thread Justine Sherry
Hello NANOG!

I emailed you a few months ago asking for help understanding typical
middlebox deployments in enterprise networks. 57 of you responded - thank
you so much!

Several of you asked if I'd share the data post-study; I've put together a
brief report on our findings here:
http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2012/EECS-2012-24.pdf
If you have any questions, comments, or feedback, please don't hesitate to
contact me.

Thanks again for your help and support for our research!

Best,
Justine


Re: Middlebox Report and Thank You!

2012-02-09 Thread Christian Esteve
Thank you Justine!

your research recalled me to a recent middlebox-related publication:

An Untold Story of Middleboxes in Cellular Networks
by Zhaoguang Wang, Zhiyun Qian, Qiang Xu, Zhuoqing Morley Mao, and
Ming Zhang, Proceedings of SIGCOMM 2011.
(http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2011/papers/sigcomm/p374.pdf)

In the news:
MIT Technology Review
http://www.technologyreview.com/communications/38435/?a=f
Slashdot
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/08/26/159225/Mobile-Carriers-Impose-Handicaps-On-Smartphones
cnet news
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20107040-266/carriers-may-be-handicapping-cell-phone-networks/


Keep on your good work!

Cheers,
Christian

-- 
Christian Esteve Rothenberg, Ph.D.
Converged Networks Division (DRC)
Tel.:+55 19-3705-4479 / Cel.: +55 19-8193-7087
est...@cpqd.com.br
www.cpqd.com.br

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 23:01, Justine Sherry just...@cs.washington.edu wrote:

 Hello NANOG!

 I emailed you a few months ago asking for help understanding typical
 middlebox deployments in enterprise networks. 57 of you responded - thank
 you so much!

 Several of you asked if I'd share the data post-study; I've put together a
 brief report on our findings here:
 http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2012/EECS-2012-24.pdf
 If you have any questions, comments, or feedback, please don't hesitate to
 contact me.

 Thanks again for your help and support for our research!

 Best,
 Justine




--
Christian



Re: Middlebox Report and Thank You!

2012-02-09 Thread chris
Look how much time people waste with those all in one devices :) As soon as
I get the feeling something is very appliancey I run the other direction

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Christian Esteve chest...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Justine!

 your research recalled me to a recent middlebox-related publication:

 An Untold Story of Middleboxes in Cellular Networks
 by Zhaoguang Wang, Zhiyun Qian, Qiang Xu, Zhuoqing Morley Mao, and
 Ming Zhang, Proceedings of SIGCOMM 2011.
 (http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2011/papers/sigcomm/p374.pdf)

 In the news:
 MIT Technology Review
 http://www.technologyreview.com/communications/38435/?a=f
 Slashdot

 http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/08/26/159225/Mobile-Carriers-Impose-Handicaps-On-Smartphones
 cnet news

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20107040-266/carriers-may-be-handicapping-cell-phone-networks/


 Keep on your good work!

 Cheers,
 Christian

 --
 Christian Esteve Rothenberg, Ph.D.
 Converged Networks Division (DRC)
 Tel.:+55 19-3705-4479 / Cel.: +55 19-8193-7087
 est...@cpqd.com.br
 www.cpqd.com.br

 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 23:01, Justine Sherry just...@cs.washington.edu
 wrote:
 
  Hello NANOG!
 
  I emailed you a few months ago asking for help understanding typical
  middlebox deployments in enterprise networks. 57 of you responded - thank
  you so much!
 
  Several of you asked if I'd share the data post-study; I've put together
 a
  brief report on our findings here:
  http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2012/EECS-2012-24.pdf
  If you have any questions, comments, or feedback, please don't hesitate
 to
  contact me.
 
  Thanks again for your help and support for our research!
 
  Best,
  Justine




 --
 Christian




Re: UDP port 80 DDoS attack

2012-02-09 Thread Keegan Holley
2012/2/8 Steve Bertrand steve.bertr...@gmail.com

 On 2012.02.08 14:23, Drew Weaver wrote:

 Stop paying transit providers for delivering spoofed packets to the edge
 of your network and they will very quickly develop methods of proving that
 the traffic isn't spoofed, or block it altogether. =)


 I firmly believe in this recourse, amongst others...


How do you tell the spoofed packets from the non-spoofed ones?  Especially
if you have more than one provider.


 If you know that your provider allows spoofed traffic, let the community
 know about it.


According to a company wide NDA I'm only allowed to disclose that to the
best of my knowledge my upstreams permits packets sent from users or other
NSP's who may or may not permit or generate packets.  The source IP
addresses are checked to be valid 32 bit numbers before being sent to my
routers. My upstreams to the best of their knowledge have never sent me a
single spoofed packet and will refrain from doing so unless they receive
written consent from me, in triplicate. ;)


 In all aspects of life, a problem must be 'fixed' at the source. All of
 the small-medium size ops have to connect to the big-boys somewhere, and
 what I've seen in this industry is that the big-boys are generally
 compliant.


As long as compliant means completely indifferent to your concerns and
unwilling to change or compromise in any meaningful while sucking money
away faster than the government.  They are all very very compliant and a
pleasure to do business with.